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| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:28:01 - 16:48:29 |
| 影片長度 |
1228 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第2會期第1次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為考試院第十三屆院長、副院長及考試委員任期於113年8月31日屆滿，茲依據憲法增修條文第6條第2項規定，提名周弘憲為考試院第十四屆院長，許舒翔為考試院第十四屆副院長，邱文彥、鄧家基、王秀紅、呂秋慧、柯麗鈴、黃東益、伊萬．納威Iwan Nawi 7位為考試院第十四屆考試委員，咨請同意案。） |
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我們謝謝副院長接下來請副院長備提名人請備提名人答詢首先我要恭喜許教授備提名為考試院的副院長我想您在環境政治與國際關係的領域有相當豐厚的學術背景 |
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當然你也在國際的學術期刊有發表很多篇的研究成果 |
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您學成歸國之後也任教於大專院校．並且擔任了校長職務多年那我看你的志傳您在軍中時期．那麼服役於海軍陸戰隊．擔任這個牌長．也歷練了組織的領導與發展的專長．累積豐富的這個經驗 |
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在2016年您到考試院來服務．立任考選部的政務次長．以及到部長的職務．對於我們考選的行政業務．可以說是非常的熟悉．所以今天本席就要請教您．以您在考選部多年的經驗． |
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您要如何回應當前我們國家急需用我們很多的文官到我們的政府部門來服務以及有關文官考試制度的相關改革的需求就幾個問題來救救我們的副院長被提名的人 |
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首先我們都知道現在我們的警消全國各縣市警消的員額都是非常的欠缺每一位警消人員他要服務的人民可以說是都高達一千多位 |
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所以我們錦霄的這個編制錦霄的缺額如何要來趕快加以補足啊我想剛才有很多衛委員也有關心過 |
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但是我在這邊要特別關心的是對於錦霄人員類別考試應否由身高限制這個問題來這個請教副院長被提名人我想當年考選部還有保訓會對於這個是否這個錦霄人員的考試類別應該是否要身高的限制那麼當時呢考選部是持反對是持認為說要有限制的一個立場 |
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當然最後這個經過我們的這個憲法法庭憲法法庭判制第6號的一個判決作出 |
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認定說女性報考消防員的身高限制是違憲違反平等權的規定所以許教授您當時擔任考試院部長您並未支持說女性報考消防員的身高限制有違憲的疑慮有違憲之一的看法現在我們的憲法法庭判決說這個是違憲 |
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也反映出我們整個制度的設計缺乏包容性以及平等性所以想請問副院長被提名的人未來如果您擔任我們的考試院副院長對於這個問題你的立場有否改變第二就是說你未來對於這個問題如果你擔任我們的考試院副院長你要如何來處理這個問題 |
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好 謝謝委員我想我們有關公務人員應考相關的資格除了公務人員考試法的訂定之外這些相關的特考有關身高、年齡的限制甚至有性別的限制使用名額性別限制像罰警跟監守管理員 |
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都是因為用人機關有這個需求那我想站在考選部立場保障這個應考人的權益我們當然不希望有一些太特殊的限制所以這個限制要符合比例原則 |
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他真的是植物上的西球所以像法警的部分跟這個監守管理員我們也跟用人機關一直每一年都在做檢討我們希望用科技的方式、裝備的方式、設備的方式但是以目前來講因為用人機關的人力的缺乏還有因為藍尼這個這個監守的藍尼的比例有不同所以他們需要的這個有關像藍尼還是有不同那身高的問題有同樣這些 |
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李宗盛、李宗盛、李宗盛、李宗盛、李宗盛、李宗盛 |
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配合用人計劃的需求：也有提出是 |
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要降低3公分比現在的規定降低3公分也曾經提過這個方案到考試院那時候考試院認為還有一些因素要考量所以最後是沒有通過所以副院長我想你回答的有點離題了我現在要問你警消的問題警消這部分因為經過我們憲法裁判第一條已經判決出來了所以你未來你要如何的你當任副院長如何來做這個處理 |
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會議憲法的這個判決的部分跟內政部這邊來討論做適當的修正所以你的立場有改變嗎你也是現在就認為說這個確實是依照憲法的裁判我們的立場是應該要改就要改那盡量用 |
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設備相關的科技設施來做因應不要用身高我希望你就是朝向這個符合我們憲法裁判意旨符合平等權的規定把相關的這些考試的規則做加以修改我們會朝向這個方向第二個問題像我們近期公務部門尤其我們的這個勞發署最近發生了嚴重的職場霸凌事件 |
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所以面對我們基層工人員心理健康與工作壓力這個問題未來您擔任考試院的副院長在考試院你如何來推動我們員工同仁心理的健康與申訴的保障機制 |
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這部分早上周院長被提名的人也承諾過希望在下個會期針對保障法的部分能夠提出相關的修正送到大院來那另外在安慰辦法的部分我大概也了解了一下目前的辦法的規定大部分大概就是針對硬體的部分硬體設備設施的部分影響到相關的工作人的身心健康這個部分那 |
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非硬體的部分包括像霸凌這些問題可能的影響我想這一部分我們希望未來也能夠針對法規的部分再來做檢討希望你們能更積極的推動相關員工心理健康還有申訴的保障機制 |
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公職人員最關心的是退伏基金的權益過去退伏基金委外操作的績效已經是蠻公開的但是自營績效卻缺乏透明度如果您上任我們的考試院副院長您是否支持定期公開前20大的虧損事故我的瞭解對於 |
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這好像是已經有公開的機制那如果要公開虧損的部分可能會對這個社會 |
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副院長被提名希望說考試院 |
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站在一個應該有財政的壓力跟我們如何保障公權權益的平衡的權益相衡的情況之下我覺得你應該適時的提出哪幾支股票不應該去投資你還是要適時的公開相關的 |
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主席主席主席 |
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到現在的年平均績效還好可是其中有一年就是111年那一年是國際的市場不好所以那一年是互得 |
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那未來有沒有可能在這種國際景氣不太好的情況之下我們自行操作還是說這個委託的部分還是有正成長的可能性這方面怎麼樣努力這當然牽涉到風險的控管還有資產的配置我想這方面我想容許我們上任之後仔細再來做檢討跟了解 |
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非常被提名我們希望說你能夠更公開更透明讓我們這些退休的公務人員他們在自行選擇投資的時候能夠更了解提他們一個參考的一個資訊所以考試院這部分你們是責無旁貸OK |
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另外再請問我們蕭美琴副總統在今年的5月31號她宣布考試委員被提名人的時候提到說您在考選部服務八年期間完成包括加速建置電腦化的考場 |
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公務人員的考試檢科、建構離島特考制度等﹐多項重要的業務改革﹐並在疫情期間靈活應變調度﹐讓國家考試順利辦理完成本席請就您擔任考選部長任內﹐對於成立國家考試數位轉型推動小組﹐ |
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曝化加速國考數位化的轉型以及高普考試數位化的確實我想這個確實有提升我們的效率那我也這個競表讚許但是否也可能因為這樣子會加劇偏鄉考生的數位資源的差距你有沒有具體的方案來協助我們偏鄉的考生克服技術與資源上的不平等 |
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跟委員報告那當然分成兩部分一部分就是平常對於資訊數位學習的一個應用那我知道現在目前教育部有推動這個斑斑有平板電腦這個政策我想這一部分應該也會適當的改善這個偏向這個數位資源的差跡那未來我們在考試上當然也會努力來建置這個符合的 |
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考場就像我們在離島跟金門大學合作建設這個電腦化的市場那當然像馬祖跟澎湖目前還有困難那這些我們會想辦法一步一步來克服那包括這個如果是沒有辦法座位型怎麼樣用提供這個平板的電腦的方式讓應考人都有一個公平應考的機會OK |
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再問你第五個問題您在考選部任內推動了高普考的檢科政策但是這樣的一個檢科政策也引發考用落差以及基層專業能力不足的疑慮請問您如何評估這些改革成效各位委員報告考科的專業科目的減少不見得會降低它的核心能力我們因為 |
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公務員考試是用總分級格式的方式所以考六個科目這六個科目不見得都是核心科目所以讓硬考人反而是有機會他用其他科目來補核心科目他可能比較差的情形所以有可能他的核心科目最需要的那一部分他可能考得比較低可是其他會核心科目他考得比較高這樣 |
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可能會造成其實他考上的人也許他是非核心科目包括普通科目的加進來讓他入期的 |
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那我們限收之後計較在核心科目這個部分那他就針對核心的科目必須要強中更強所以我想不會影響到他的數字其實外界也是批評說你這樣考試科目整併之後會造成削弱我們的專業性就考上的考生他可能專業性會不足 |
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您的看法怎麼樣我們在這個技術類科的部分目前這個還是需要保留像土木工程那大家認為還是要有六個科目作為核心科目我們還是有保留六個科目但是對於行政類的包括行政類很多的行政事實上你一進來公部門之後他也是這個部門那個部門去流通 |
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那很快的跟他你所考的專業科目是什麼其實 |
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比較沒有那麼學習相關所以未來我們希望用性向測驗針對語言、邏輯推理這個再學習能力這一方面能夠去做加強那知識的這個斷層跟變化也越來越快所以一輩子的一個潛力跟再學習能力其實才是未來公務員您認為說這個外界的疑慮是多餘的其實這樣的一個整併不會影響整個我們外界的疑慮老師的專業性不會降低 |
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外界的疑慮我覺得因為這個資訊的落差也一定會有這種想法但是我想我們一定是精進這個考用的人才考用的合一這個方向在走所以你評估你這樣做它的效益是正面的不是負面的對至少對於像這個報名人數一直在下降那檢科之後報名人數已經稍微提升了提升好接下來我再請問你 |
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934.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
944.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
目前我們新住民的考試參與力參與的比例非常低偏低所以你是否支持新住民享有與原住民類似的加分制度 |
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945.814 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
966.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
報告委員嚴柱銘事實上是沒有加分國考嚴柱銘沒有加分他在上大學也許有加分但是國家考試的部分沒有加分只是說我們有特別幫嚴柱銘辦一個嚴柱銘的考試特考那你一定要是嚴柱銘才能夠來參加新柱銘的部分參與太低了來參加考試的偏低 |
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970.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
988.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
新住民的部分如果說要設新住民事務的一個考試類科這個基本上只要用來鼓勵新住民他來參加我們的國考對 如果是有需要新住民考試的類科只要用人機關提出來我想這一部分都可以來增設 |
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989.454 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1012.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
那如果是要像原住民比照和原住民有一個特考的方式這一部分大概要修法那必須要尋求社會的共識我想現在全台灣新住民非常的多啊快一百萬人啊未來對於新住民如何鼓勵他也加入到我們的公部門來做服務針對他們的族群我們也讓他能夠透過國家考試制度 |
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1013.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1028.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
來去對他們的權益做一個保障我想這部分考試院未來也要做積極的相關的研究像原住民的部分沒有參加原住民特考他在其他的考試也可以參加那這一部分也可以透過一些適當的機制來輔導他們參加考試 |
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| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
最後我要請教被提名人您在您的自傳中所提到的為了因應未來的新世代人才的招募持續要倡議預備文官團的理念與構想並帶領同仁完成新世代考選策略白皮書想請問說預備文官團的計畫要如何具體落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1055.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1083.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
是否有配套措施﹐確保偏鄉與弱勢學生﹐也能公平參與所謂的新世代﹐考選策略白皮書的﹐一個相關的改革計畫跟委員報告﹐一輩文團﹐我想過去這幾年﹐我們只實施過兩次﹐當然是屬於培訓﹐培訓營的方式﹐跟地方政府合作 |
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| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1098.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
那他的成效是有參加過義北文文團的也的確有好幾位都考上了公務員甚至有些參加學員進來參加之後他就跟我們說他以為公務員都是在看報紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1100.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1101.751 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
我以前有問過教育部青年發展署 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1130.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1156.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
那每一年有那麼多人參加他們的公部門見習到底有多少人進入公部門他們沒有這個統計資料所以我們未來是希望跟教育部這邊合作他們在辦理這個到公部門見習的之前的這些講習我們有參與的機會所以未來預備文官團的這個計畫呢不會再繼續推展我是希望跟這個保興會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1158.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1181.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
培養年輕的科長和專研這一些如果說有潛力的來選拔讓他們經過相當的訓練包括國外移地訓練之後未來他有潛力再往上來發展朝這個模式來發展副院長被提名我想最後給你一個期許當然我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1183.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1190.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
除了要有改革服務的熱忱我想人民更關心的您的政策是否真正能夠落實為國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1213.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
建立更健全的文官考試體制以及我們的這個文官用人的制度那也期許說你要為國家選拔更優秀的公務及專技人才所以當然這個問題可能是沒時間了但是就是說希望您能夠用您的學術成就以及背景來為國舉財 |
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1220.933 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1226.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
好 謝謝林委員謝謝貝提敏人接下來我們請劉建國委員詢問 |
| IVOD_ID |
157449 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157449 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-26 |
| 影片種類 |
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| 開始時間 |
2024-11-26T16:28:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-26T16:48:29+08:00 |
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