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| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:37:35 - 14:48:04 |
| 影片長度 |
629 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
（變更議程）立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二、 審查委員馬文君等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。三、 審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「國土計畫法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。四、 審查委員林思銘等18人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。五、 審查委員許宇甄等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。六、 審查委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。七、 審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。八、 審查委員陳超明等20人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。九、 審查委員丁學忠等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十、 審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「國土計畫法第七條、第三十五條及第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員張嘉郡等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十二、 審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員邱鎮軍等21人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十四、 審查委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十五、 審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十六、 審查委員柯志恩等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十七、 審查委員楊瓊瓔等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十八、 審查委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十九、 審查委員王育敏等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十、 審查委員黃建賓等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十一、 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十二、 審查委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十條條文修正草案」案。二十三、 審查委員林岱樺等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十四、 審查委員涂權吉等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十五、 審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十六、 審查委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十條條文修正草案」案。二十七、 審查委員劉建國等17人擬具「國土計畫法第八條及第四十五條條文修正草案」案。 【第二十四案，如經復議，則不予審查；第二十五至二十七案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查。】） |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第十五條條文修正草案．立法院第十五條條文修正草案．立法院第十五條 |
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有所政策的改變人民的神經一定是敏感的這是基本第二件事情我想我從五月底六月初甚至於這個中間一直不斷的在提醒整個國土計畫在執行的過程裡面現階段還會如果以十幾個縣市報到中央來還有八個縣市稍微報的情況之下他們還屬於在縣市的公告範圍裡面縣市國土計畫公告範圍裡面 |
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當他們在縣市的國土計畫公告範圍裡面的這個期程我必須要我必須要細究請署長要答覆我還非常清楚藥農業縣來承載糧食安全我想這個這個這個原則基本上 |
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大家應該還有很大的討論空間該怎麼去承擔?該怎麼去承展?有沒有一個公平的計算模式?也就是講我們寓意縣從過去的特農是五萬五那我們的產值不是過去就現在區計畫法我們的特農是五萬五 |
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然後屏東現在是一萬一但與你的農業產值一年八九百億左右屏東是七百多億我們只多屏東一百多億那為什麼在特農的比例上我們就已經將近差了十來倍 |
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然後變成國土計畫之後,地方政府的劃設,現在這是地方政府劃設的階段嘛,對不對?好,我們變成增加五千多,達到六萬,全國第一高的龍一面積在雲林縣。屏東環流降下來,從一萬一剩下五千多。所以現在雲林的龍一的被縣市政府公告劃設這個面積,已經高過屏東,高達十二倍之多。 |
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要雲林農民去承載這樣所謂的糧食安全優良農地的面積站在你的視野從高的方向去看下去對雲林而言是公平嗎?這樣的比喻是正確嗎?再對照彰化彰化可以選出四個立委雲林才選出兩個立委按人口從農人口從土地的面積為什麼雲林也大過於彰化?這邏輯是什麼? |
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這個規劃的依循又是什麼?當然縣市政府如果已經化射上出了嚴重的問題的情況之下,再把這樣的一個縣市國土計畫送到中央來,你中央該如何去做處置、去做處理?這是第一件事情。時間的關係,我請署長要快速地導我怎麼處理、怎麼應應。 |
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謝謝因為的確委員在擔心的這一個部分也是現在在程序上一直被誤解但是其實就像你講的農民都是對自己的土地會有期待簡單來講雖然我的國土計畫也容許項目會比較多但是就會卡在過去的認知它是特農它是農一但是事實上我們國土計畫的農一農二對我們來講 |
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以後的使用項目都是一致的。」這一點其實是很重要。第二個也沒有影響他任何權利。但是今天農民擔心的是說我會不會長久就這樣被限制。那事實上國土計畫比現在的區域計畫還要有彈性。他以後還是可以變更。國土計畫比現在的區域計畫還有彈性嗎?對不對?所以如果變化最容易之後就很簡單的請教吧。可不可以新建農舍?可不可以新建自宅室? |
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文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具 |
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造成農民恐慌,當國家、當中央你要推這個政策,然後這個政策不是這個樣子,然後地方這種公開的場合或討論新聞,一而再再而三變做農業之後,就是有做非常嚴謹的相關限制,甚至於透過圖卡一直在講說,農地判死刑,一輩子賣冰心,我們做農奴,你們怎麼回應? |
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你們有到地方去開嗎?你們有到地方去開說明會嗎?你們有透過第四台的左馬燈去做說明嗎?你們有透過電視節目的裝潢好好去表達這個不是事實不要被這個地方政府用詐欺的行為讓你們的土地價值直直崩落你們有做過嗎?有嗎?你們有第一時間做反應嗎?有嗎? |
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對,謝謝委員吶,其實在...你們為什麼從六一到現在,今天還好張偉有牌,我們才有機會,在上次的攻擊跟現在,有機會把這事情講清楚,講清楚只有這個頻道夠嗎?他們已經辦了多少場了,每一場都這麼講,連六幫罵紅大。 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。二、сколько審查委員馬文君等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。 |
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貴單位怎麽做?貴單位怎麽應應?若無所謂的事,對無所謂的開始說不出別種之內就對了。您怎麼歡迎?您怎麼做出力?根文報告,其實我們大概第一時間很多新聞都有立即澄清啦。我們只要有發現,我們都立即澄清啦。人家是開記者規定會做單位的,一段落七百個就對了。聽到會做五個訊息中,快要跟萬多人啦。 |
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國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案。 |
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在上市小英總統的任內我們怎麼讓三保一金可以立法完成我們怎麼樣的讓補助補貼有人在講補助補貼會因為政策改變我要請教署長簡單說明一下特別補償特別補償是依據什麼補助補貼又是依據什麼 |
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因為特別補償其實沒有任何的依據因為特別補償指的是政府剝奪人民的財產那目前全台灣就是只有公社保留地還有文化資產這兩個是適用的但是如果補貼它可以依據農業相關的法規包含農發條例或相關的法規它是在現行的制度底下我增加新的補貼讓你在從事農業更有保障 |
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審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具 |
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合廠不是依照法律規範去認定才有辦法去做處理嗎?怎麼會補助補貼?就會因為政策改變。那特別補償就不會,一樣都是依據法律。地方政府,一樣是政府講這樣的話,你們誰第一個時間做回應?你跟我講,針對這部分你們誰第一個時間做回應? |
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沒有啊!沒有啊!沒有啊!沒有啊! |
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內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。 |
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國土計畫法第二十三條條文修正草案 |
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但是法律沒有啊!法律就是沒有嘛!所以有人到現在不想上,你就不再執行嘛!所以你就存言這條都而已嘛!在那裡是法律啦!在那裡是法律啦!但是你要你馬國土計畫、吳明華、講農地化私營、講知識人變農委員,你還要發言?你還要今天來這個舞台講,也不一定要言耶! |
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主席,對不起,謝謝,感謝。 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具:「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具:「國土計畫法第11屆第2會期內政委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具:「國土計畫法第11屆第2會期內政委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具:「國土計畫法第11屆第2 |
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| 日期 |
2024-11-21 |
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2024-11-21T14:37:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-21T14:48:04+08:00 |
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