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| 委員名稱 |
林淑芬 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:27:39 - 14:37:24 |
| 影片長度 |
585 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
（變更議程）立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二、 審查委員馬文君等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。三、 審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「國土計畫法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。四、 審查委員林思銘等18人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。五、 審查委員許宇甄等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。六、 審查委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。七、 審查委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。八、 審查委員陳超明等20人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。九、 審查委員丁學忠等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十、 審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「國土計畫法第七條、第三十五條及第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員張嘉郡等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十二、 審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員邱鎮軍等21人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十四、 審查委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十五、 審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十六、 審查委員柯志恩等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十七、 審查委員楊瓊瓔等19人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十八、 審查委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。十九、 審查委員王育敏等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十、 審查委員黃建賓等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十一、 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十二、 審查委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十條條文修正草案」案。二十三、 審查委員林岱樺等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十四、 審查委員涂權吉等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十五、 審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。二十六、 審查委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「國土計畫法第四十條條文修正草案」案。二十七、 審查委員劉建國等17人擬具「國土計畫法第八條及第四十五條條文修正草案」案。 【第二十四案，如經復議，則不予審查；第二十五至二十七案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查。】） |
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國土計畫法第四十五條條文宣查委員 |
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蘇長,我是覺得整個國土計畫法被汙名化,被兩位地方首長帶頭這樣子抹黑,我是覺得你有一點失職,因為你該辯護的方向辯護不利。 |
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國土計畫法比區域計畫法還賦予地方政府更多彈性,也給他們更多工具,然後也讓地方政府更賦權給他們。在這種狀況裡面 |
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至少我知道今天有一個記者會在國立成功大學都市計畫學系黃偉儒教授他也做了一個區域計畫法跟國土計畫法的比較他今天的比較做出來以後大家一看就覺得天啊這個國土計畫法就應該要趕快通過才對啊如果是地方政府的立場的話天啊就記得要趕快通過才是最好的 |
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國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案 |
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因為過去區域計畫法最為人詬病的就是它依現況編定沒有檢討機制毫無彈性形成凍結式的土地管理模式所以導致許多合理的使用但是不合法存在沒有彈性它沒有辦法合法的使用合理喔 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條 |
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案。三、 INTERVIEWER審查委員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。 |
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所以我跟邱文燕委員我們當初在立這個國土計畫法的時候就是針對當初我們看到的這一些問題提出了很多的相對應的這個工具包括說我們功能分區的畫社計畫要去引導開發 |
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我們也賦權給你地方政府有認定土地管理等因地制宜的作為,也提供你們地方政府通盤檢討的補助。我們就是要讓你有彈性,讓你可以更因地制宜。要怎麼做也全部你自己地方政府決定的。 |
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第三、已經投入鄉村整理地區的規劃案聚落規劃也有補助啊。所以我們中央還要補助你地方呢?依法有據的補助喔。第四、過程當中我們都讓民眾有參與的程序回應民眾的真實的需求。所以這不是洪水猛獸捏。 |
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這是現在你去的土地管理管制的手段跟法律嚇到了那我們要趕快來告訴你這是一個好的解套的方法可是呢我們現在看到大家都交作業了現在有幾個管制已經把他們的功能分區圖交來中央幾個?14個有幾個沒有交?現在還有8個 |
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第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案 |
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我們當初在立法的時候就說為什麼要二加二加二因為我媽不是不死人間煙火林淑芬、邱文燕各黨各派都有捏我們就是想到了要給中央政府時間準備要給地方政府時間準備在畫社功能分區的時候都還要再給的時間再多一點兩年捏2015年年底通過到現在 |
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中間沒有辦法完成,六年的時間不夠,那你再多三年。當時多三年的時候,提案修正的立委,我們就說要再拖,現在是要把國土計畫法凍結起來,不施行嗎?再多三年,兩年不夠,要再高年。當時就有立委說,不能再拖,不然等一下洗稿、高年稿要再拖,又要延,果真其然。 |
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文修正草案．立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員吳琪銘等16人擬具 |
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當然現在大概卡在幾個部分,大概第一個是農地的部分,他們對於這個農業,因為農民產生疑慮,擔心一輩子無法翻身,那也代表了說在這個過程當中沒有了...那農民是要怎麼翻身? |
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是,那其實在國土計畫的規定其實比區域計畫的規定還好。區域計畫法就有辦法翻身嗎?對,沒有辦法。區域計畫法一樣嘛,也是要透過都市計畫審議才能夠變更嘛。是。啊,現在現在法律委員會就反省說嗎?馬上都在變更的嗎?馬上想要變就變嗎?沒有。沒有。國土計畫法之後,就因為沒辦法變嗎?可以變更。也可以變更啊! |
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議員吳琪銘等16人擬具〈國土計畫法第四十五條條文修正草案案〉案。五年通盤檢討。五年通盤檢討之前,我們給你地方政府說,你現在要做工業工,你看到你這個地方未來才幾天要來,未來台灣整形了,我看到五年之後可能產業有需求, |
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五年之後我有這個可能還可以再擴充需要都市計畫的那個城鄉發展區他就可以他就可以把它畫出來畫完以後使用的不夠再繼續畫都可以一計畫引導規劃 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條文修正草案．立法院第四十五條條 |
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這個增加了15件而地方政府尚未核准的只用地變更編定案多達771件較同年3月10的537件暴增了234件短短5個月大家都會趕在國土計畫法施行以前趕快個案變更結果加速了這個農地的破碎開發區位的散落在各個地方 |
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事件包括花蓮的七星潭沿線的渡假村,包括大豆山區的溫泉豪宅。所以在新制上路之前,這一些業者都罔顧整個國土計畫就要直接上路,突襲式的開發現象。這樣凸顯了區域計畫法對土地管理的不足。 |
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所以我每延後一天,就多了一天讓農地遭受破壞的風險。特惡農中間放一斤甘蔗,污水排放出來,灌排不分離,給這個特惡農好的生產農地中間放的工廠的灌溉用水來灌溉水源,請地外淨財給大家吃,這可不是南北。 |
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所以在這裡我們是真的覺得相當遺憾,但是我在講說我們是不是能夠這樣子跟大家參詳,雖然大家都要再演,我也是,也是表決嘛,表述人沒關係,但是我有一個希望,人家按照規定有14個已經報佈審議的,你就讓他先施行。 |
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條文修正草案案。四、 INTERVIEWER審查委員林戴化等16人擬具 |
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| 日期 |
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