| IVOD_ID |
15729 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15729 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-1-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-15T08:29:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-15T14:42:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
06:12:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a609d31b85c1e3ab29374d503f9c4523e5713be8d109af184be4f4337a475e0cc3df5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第5次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。
二、3月15日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。
三、3月19日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:29:58 - 14:42:00 |
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報告委員會現在進行國是論壇每位委員發言3分鐘。我們請紅委員孟凱發言。主席、行政官員、各位立院的先進同仁還有全國民眾大家早安、大家好。代退內閣嚴禁百難。社會安全網請負起責任。 |
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我想主任蔡英文總統啟動朝野對話跟民眾黨的柯文哲主席來對談,也表態說希望跟國民黨的朱立倫主席來會談。雖然朝野對話我們都正向看待,但是這是現在的當務之急嗎?因為過去 |
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蔡總統過去8年執政並沒有跟在野黨來做溝通,現在只剩2個月就要卸任了才啟動朝野對話,會不會太晚了呢? |
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尤其從1月13日我們的新民意產生之後,陳建仁的內閣團隊是擺爛還是傲慢,我們國人都看在眼裡。台灣現在正面臨國安、食安以及社會安全網多重打擊,到目前為止陳內閣團隊有沒有做好準備? |
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我們真的要說蔡總統賴總統當選人現在持續神隱但是我們要看到的是正本清源就應該是蔡總統跟賴準總統兩個人好好討論到底內閣團隊什麼時候要交接名單什麼時候要公布這才是真真正正讓國人可以看到耳目一新的新奇印象否則的話現在 |
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根本就是代退的內閣持續的放任我們的食安以及國安還有社會安全網持續的破洞。我們要講蔡總統你最強調的社會安全網現在因為一歲的男童被保姆虐死三個月後揭發引起全民的公憤 |
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保姆罪大惡極,這一點我們避無可避。我們也建請檢察官應該要從重量刑。但中央跟地方在這件事情上能夠多做什麼,這才是我們所關注的。尤其是兒福聯盟是衛福部所委託,而兒福聯盟的社工有沒有在每個月好好的去檢視保姆的一個照顧。 |
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如果說有做好的話這件事情有可能可以防範於未來這件事情有可能可以提早被發現但是就一個環節一個環節沒有做好而導致於最後最終的遺憾發生了我們現在人民要看到的不是推責任而是中央跟地方都要負起責任的把安全網打造更綿密 |
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身為安全網不管是食安或是社會安全網最大責任的衛福部在這一波民意反彈的罪魁禍首。歷任部長政治超越專業已經讓衛福部成為既不衛生又沒有辦法造福民眾的部會了。所以在今天的此時此刻我們很沉重的呼籲蔡總統跟賴總統當選人好好的交接不要再擺爛了。 |
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主席、各位委員、各位官員以及現場媒體朋友,大家早安、大家好。 |
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很沉重,一個小小的生命才剛剛與世界認識一年多,就說了再見。身為大人的我們卻依然在事發之後才提出檢討、補救、改善、種種的辦法。這樣的無限輪迴到底什麼時候才可以停止? |
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身為三寶媽的我不忍心看著新聞這些描述的細節我更無法想像這一年多以來這位小天使腦袋裡到底在想些什麼除了痛還是痛是時候我們要很嚴肅的全面檢討這個社會安全網的千瘡百孔許多家長向我反映尋找保姆猶如蝦子摸象 |
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資訊不對等、不公開,就是因為缺乏常態性、制度性的評鑑機制。就算部分縣市有辦理居家托育服務中心的評鑑,可是沒有公開透明,根本無從作為這些家長挑選保母的可靠資訊。 |
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目前成為一個保姆的條件都屬於消極要件但這份工作需要無比的愛心與耐心面對毫無血緣關係的孩子吵鬧專業穩定的情緒管理至關重要 |
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因此本席主張納入保母身心健康的評估。另外本次案件屬於24小時全日拖在宅保母。很多家長面對這樣子的保母是只有週末才能看到孩子。主管機關更應該列為較高風險的類型並提高訪視率。 |
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本席呼籲政府針對居家式托育服務管理登記辦法,修訂兒少權益法,建立全國保姆公開透明的評鑑機制,並將保障保姆身心健康納入計畫,儘速提出相關的修法改善。 |
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最後出生醫院的我,非常清楚社工師的辛苦。因為我們都是醫療體系中的一員,但是社工師的待遇差,事情繁多。我們必須檢討社工師法,兒少權益法的職責過於限縮,以及普遍低的薪資待遇。 |
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我仍然希望正在奉獻社會的社工師們千萬不要灰心氣餒臺灣一直都深深的需要你們謝謝 |
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主席,各位官員,還有我們各位在座的立委同事們,大家早安。宇甄今天要跟各位討論的是支持不在籍投票,人民省錢又省時。大家都說臺灣最美麗的風景是人,但是曾幾何時臺灣人變得這麼的不快樂? |
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高通貨膨脹吃掉薪資的成長,貧富差距12年以來最高。當執政黨讓人民看不到希望,改變現狀,改變社會,改變國家,最直接的方法就是民主投票。然而當在野黨順應民意推動不在籍投票的立法,執政黨卻以國家安全為理由扼殺人民參與民主投票改變台灣的機會。 |
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選舉投票的參政權是中華民國憲法賦予每一位公民基本人權。特別是在科技發展日新月異的當下,主流民主國家都在發展方便選民投票,降低投票成本的不在籍投票。全世界只有民主進步黨拿著威權政府會用的國安理由反對國會擴大參政權。 |
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民國91年到現在,有關不在籍投票的法案版本已經累積了50多案,許多都是由民主進步黨提出。以前支持,現在反對。難道又是時空、背景、環境的不同,還是只是換個位子就換個腦袋呢? |
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民主要深化,就必須要納入更多人參與民主的過程。簡單來說,越是越多人的投票越好。根據主計總署人口普查的一個統計,國人因為工作、求學的因素有未居住於涉及地的情形越來越多。 |
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2010年為社戶集於常住地的人數有430.4萬,2020年則來到637.6萬,較10年前增加了8.7%。數據統計顯示,人口往都會區常住的情況越來越多。每逢選舉的時候,在外地工作的勞工學生 |
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為返回戶籍地投票就要花費許多的時間和金錢高額的成本影響他的投票意願如果說臺灣的經濟環境好也就算了但是現在最苦的是勞工和學生薪水低生活過不下去投票還花那麼多的錢民進黨反對不再一起投票是不是就要站在年輕人跟勞工的對立面因為勞工果然是心中最軟的那一塊因為年輕人反正都是西中的 |
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政府有責任保障投票人參選的權利政府更有責任改善不便民的投票狀況不再集投票就是保障公民投票權就是符合當下社會最需要最能深化民主最能讓台灣人重新看到改變希望的重要制度所以不再集投票有很多元的方式不要再有意識形態我們可以共同討論找出最合適的方式謝謝 |
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謝謝許委員宇甄的發言接下來我們請登記第4號丁委員學中發言大會主席、各部會的官員 |
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身為婦人館的立委．當今天要替我們鄉親來歡迎政府這國的鄉鄉三國國和會出銷上線這是一個大的問題但這都說不真正說不去了解到地方民眾的一個訴求因為這樣對我們全鄉的民眾的動機真的是無講解本來婦人館的便衣金屬就有比較少65個以上的動機 |
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已經無政府訪問出見報會﹚現在又無關修正會上線。﹚大家要聽問,在這關公室的關門﹚我們婚禮館婚禮醫療就幾人較少﹚很多地方可能一間金屬就沒有﹚若是國會會繼續,範圍較長﹚也是要去看醫生。 |
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時間久只開在這天當的場．根本無否定講的市場有緊張收益未起家。拜託不要再用中央來看天下．這是在紀律面前太荒謬。再來黨運婚禮館美國的人就有一個人超過65歲。其中有萬姓家及需要各人登記照顧的中國客車有位 |
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他們來想過他們的負擔嗎?在這裡要問你們,知道我們考核理論兩項加起來有幾項藝科,否則知道沒有,一項都沒有,這會更加讓民眾要早去學會、討論才看得到醫生,怕這些人說會因為國和會企業,他們就不能看了。 |
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請問這個政策公佈過後會不會企劃的狀況將會發生?必須要說,這次這個政策是馬上宣佈,沒有跟大家公開討論。這不是讓我們中國時代變成負擔更加重嗎?發展在這要大聲的呼籲,應該為我們醫療部長的地方院長來受力。 |
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請政府重新檢討這個制度,不然再這麼粗魯。感謝大家。謝謝丁委員學中的發言。接下來我們請登記第5號陳委員召之發言。 |
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主席各位委員各位官員還有各位媒體朋友我今天的主題是醫師與保姆醫師與保姆看似兩個不相關的行業其實這兩個行業從事這兩個行業的人格特質有一個非常重要的共通性 |
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很多很多年前我還在臺大醫院服務的時候有幸被送到美國加州大學舊金山分校去進修那個年代整個醫院的運作幾乎都沒有所謂的自動化的作業來協助需要很多的人工 |
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我當時進到某個單位去學習瞭解的時候那個位置就是在做所謂的全靜脈營養液的調配這個全靜脈營養液的調配是要提供沒有辦法有一段時間沒有辦法靠自己進食而需要透過靜脈注射提供營養來幫助這個病人度過難關那大家可以想見 |
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這樣子的操作一定要在所謂的無菌的環境、無菌的操作台。它的技術也是要採用無菌操作技術。為什麼呢?這麼營養的東西如果你沒有做好,它被污染了,你反而沒有救到病人,而是害到了病人。我記得當時的老師Dr. |
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Jackson, |
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做這件事的時候,你要當作我在為我的媽媽或我所愛的人在做這件事情。那我們今天回來這個主題,醫師與保姆。 |
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一個好的醫師不需要功課好不需要成績那麼好不需要愛書很好我認為只要一個同理心將心比心就是所謂的是病由親當個保姆當個保姆 |
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我認為需要視同如親當醫師的人只要把病人當作自己家人自己所愛的人去照顧做一個保姆也是一樣既然要照顧別人的孩子就要把他當作自己的孩子去照顧所以醫師對病人要視病如親保姆對孩子要視同兒童視同 |
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謝謝陳委員招致的發言接下來我們請登記第6號麥委員郁真發言 |
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院長、各位長官、各位記者媒體、大家早安。 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
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我今天要來講的是會議無效訪丁錦的焚化爐昨天我跟很多的彰化的議員還有民意代表一起來去到彰化鹿港有超過三千人的民眾站在第一線金鼎說明會現場卻開放廠商自己的人入場還有其他的地方的人民都沒有辦法進場 |
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所以廠商裏面還有保全還有很多就是黑衣的年輕人已經站到會場了把當地的民眾都是擋在外面連一開始連我們自己都不能我們各個民意代表都不能進來這樣的說明會完全不符合法定會議程序還有更不正義 |
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章化縣目前已經有9座魂化爐了。魂化爐的密度為全台之冠,對居民的健康造成嚴重的威脅。金鼎魂化爐就是建出的就是臨近的最大的就是那個 |
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我國人吃的雞蛋,我們兩顆裡面就有一顆就是在彰化,還有就是裡面的農產品,還有農乳,就是還有就是說我們的牛奶,還有更多的就是說我們的福星香的香草。 |
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他也很反映說我們的養殖場還有飯宴的漁業都會受到影響所以燃燒廢物造成的污染犧牲人民的健康這是責任誰來扛所以昨天我們就一直在呼應但是呢廠商就是不管任何人來反映不管民眾的反映不管是說我們的明代的反映他還是一樣強制的 |
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去開說明會還順利的說完成不管任何人的反應所以我們要呼應我們經濟部的部長王美花部長請正視我們的人民的民心還有民生還有我們的健康謝謝謝謝麥委員玉珍的發言接下來我們請登記第7號羅偶委員志強發言 |
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3090.214 |
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家內家外只是衛福部冷血的卸責藉口家內家外只是衛福部冷血的卸責藉口虐童案發生舉國憤慨中央地方各有其責也都應該要亡羊補牢但在這邊我要鄭重的來提醒衛福部 |
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3113.541 |
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在事件悲劇發生的隔天,臺北市政府接獲通報之後,立刻在12月25日、27日,也就事發的3天內,兩度向衛福部反映要啟動重大額虐檢討會議。你知道衛福部怎麼回答嗎? |
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衛福部說這不是家內施虐所以不用開案他說這不是家內施虐保姆不是家內所以不用來請各位看一下按照我們衛福部本身的重大兒童及少年虐待事件防制小組實施計劃臺北市也有一個相同的計劃 |
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第二大點實施範圍是兒少因遭受父母、監護人或其他實際照顧之人的重大虐待事件,引致嚴重傷害及死亡的個案。我想要請教我們的部長,請問其他實際照顧之人,保姆不是實際照顧之人嗎? |
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是我們中文不好所以保姆被排除於這個實施計畫之外嗎? |
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臺北市也有一樣的一個實施計畫他就把照顧之人含色保姆所以呢向衛福部來反映但衛福部竟然畫了一條家妹家外的一條冷血的藉口線跟你講保姆不算在家內所以不用開所謂的重大額略的一個會議 |
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3226.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
然後呢等到今天新聞整個炸鍋之後衛福部才改口說要開會還緊急要說修正計劃那不就是反正臺北市政府在案發三天內兩度反應要啟動重大額虐檢討會議是正確的嗎?額福聯盟也是受衛福部發出 |
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3245.324 |
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出養媒合許可服務進行業務管理所以這也是衛福部要好好檢討最後我要講一件事一塊瘦肉精豬肉衛福部叫台中要開檢討會而虐誌使衛福部卻說不用開會一個衛福部兩套標準嗎?謝謝羅委員志強的發言 |
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3255.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
3280.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
接下來我們請登記第8號羅委員春晨發言。委員春晨口誤對不起非常抱歉主席院長大家好聯合國 |
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| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3302.125 |
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定這個1999年為國際老人日。那一年我就追隨當時擔任臺北縣副縣長的林萬益政委,舉辦了銀髮高峰會還有老人生活博覽會。 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
3303.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
3326.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
那感謝他20幾年來為臺灣快速的邁向高齡化盡心盡力卓越貢獻但是今天可惜他不在現場表達對他的謝意不過臺灣老化速度太快了從高齡社會就是高齡者14%到高齡者占28% |
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| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
3356.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
二十趴的超高齡社會臺灣只花了7年的時間法國要花28年的時間奧地利要花50年的時間臺灣以全世界最快的速度邁向高齡化所以我們現在高齡政策必須改弦易策從1.0版的養老進入到2.0版的活躍老化現在這是不夠的必須要進入到3.0版的壯世代的思維 |
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3379.552 |
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明年臺灣就進入超高齡社會了,但是我們的社會對高齡者還存在著許多的歧視。比如說勞動部的中高齡就會促進法就明定45歲以上就叫超高齡,大家會不會覺得太離譜。老人福利法定義65歲就是老人,政府會頒發給他敬老卡。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3403.766 |
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滿65歲你要買個保險投資金融商品會處處受到限制交通部滿75歲就會收到要註銷駕照那重新考照的通知教育部終身學習師預算3.4億平均每位高齡者一年的教育預算57塊 |
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3429.273 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
支援的數位都集中在年輕人,高齡的數位落差高達了60%。企業對65歲郎消費者投放廣告只佔企業行銷費用的5%,直接放棄這個市場。消費會調查80%的高齡者在消費的過程當中感受到被歧視。這些現象 |
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3458.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
﹗ |
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3467.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
謝謝吳委員、村城的發言、報告委員會。現在登記國是論壇發言的委員均已發言完畢。現在休息。 |
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5428.514 |
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報告院會現在請秘書長報告出席人數。報告院會出席委員60人,已足法定人數。好,現在開會進行報告事項,請秘書長宣讀第一會期第4次會議意思錄。 |
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5432.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
5436.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
宣讀立法院第11屆第1會期第4次會議．事由．時間中華民國113年3月8日上午9時20分至9時20分時時至11時59分下午2時30分至5時30分3月12日 |
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5450.044 |
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5469.573 |
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上午9時至11時56分．下午2時30分至4時42分．地點免驗異常．出席委員、陳委員、昭芝等112人．請假委員、楊委員要．內席官員．行政院院長陳建仁等40人．主席院長韓國瑜。報告事項 |
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5472.674 |
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5490.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
第一案,宣讀本院第11屆第1會期第3次會議事路。決定、確定第二至230案均決定交互相關委員會審查、處理或交互相關委員會。第二31案為本院委員吳宗憲審花會當選第11屆第1會期程序委員會召集委員。 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
5497.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
5516.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
質詢事項８本院委員執行部發見：對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢．決定．下次會議繼續進行經濟組織質詢．宣讀完畢。報告委員會針對第一會期第4次會議意思錄．並無委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處做以下決定第一會期第4次會議意思錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
5526.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
5555.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
請宣讀第二案第二案本院委員賴世保等22人凝聚陸海空軍軍官士官服役條例第39條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交外交集國防委員會審查宣讀完畢報告委員會有異議無異議通過下一案第三案本院委員賴世保等21人凝聚國軍老舊軍村改建條例第3條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交外交集國防委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
5555.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
5581.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
無異議通過下議案。第4案本院委員賴世保等22人凝聚。稅捐計政法第28條條文修正查案請審議案。程訊委員會意見您請願會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下議案。第5案本院委員賴世保等24人凝聚。所得稅法第5條條文修正查案請審議案。程訊委員會意見您請願會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下議案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
5582.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
5607.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
第6案本院委員賴世保等21人凝聚所得稅法第5條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請願會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異通過下議案第7案本院委員賴世保等22人凝聚地方稅法通則第4條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請願會交財政內政兩委會審查。宣讀完畢無異通過下議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
5608.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
5632.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
第八案,本院委員賴世保等20人凝聚,地方制度法第7條之1條文修正常案請審議案,程序委員會意見,擬請院會交內政、司法及法制兩委會審查,宣讀完畢。第九案,本院委員賴世保等19人凝聚,行政法法第14條條文修正常案請審議案,程序委員會意見,擬請院會交司法及法制文會審查,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
5633.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
5647.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
無異議通過下一案。第10案本院委員賴世寶等19人擬拒公務人員退休資遣撫恤法第67條條文修正常案請審議案。程旭委員會意見您請用會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
5648.447 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
5664.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
第11案本院委員賴世保等20人凝聚公立學校教職員退休資遣撫恤條例第67條條文修正草案請審議案。陳訓文會意見你請用會交司法及法治教育及文化兩委會審查。宣讀完畢第12案 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
5667.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
5691.648 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
本院委員林俊憲等23人凝聚緊急醫療救護法第44條條文修正查案請審議案。程訊委員會意見您請院會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第13案本院委員林俊憲等20人凝聚道路交通管理處罰條例第92條條文修正查案請審議案。程訊委員會意見您請院會交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
5692.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
5719.171 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
無異議通過下一案。第14案本院委員林俊憲等24人凝聚。廣播電視法部分條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第15案本院委員林俊憲等23人凝聚道路交通管理處罰條例第45條條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
5719.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
5741.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
第16案,本院委員郭育晴等16人擬聚,衍生動物保育法部分條文修正長案請審議案,程序委員會意見您請院會交,經濟委員會審查,宣讀完畢。第17案,本院委員郭育晴等17人擬聚,住宅法第4條條文修正長案請審議案,程序委員會意見您請院會交,內政委員會審查,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
5743.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
5771.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
第18案本院委員郭育晴等17人擬拒性別平等工作法第15條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異通過下一案第19案本院委員郭育晴等22人擬拒國民年金法第54條之一條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
5772.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
5800.481 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
第20案本院委員陳冠廷等16人擬聚身心障礙者權益保障法第38條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交世衛福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢無異議通過下議案第21案本院委員陳冠廷等20人擬聚身心障礙者權益保障法第二條第53條及第99條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交世衛福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
5801.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
5829.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
五、一通過下一案。第二十二案。委員委員邱正軍等十七人擬拒。國民年金法第15條及第54條之一條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五、一通過下一案。第二十三案。委員委員鄭天才等十九人擬拒。原住民族工作權保證法部分條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請運會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
5830.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
5857.441 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
無異議通過下一案。第24案．委員鄭天才等17人擬拒地方制度法第33條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交內政司法及法治兩委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第25案．委員馬文君等17人擬拒學校公參法草案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
5858.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
5884.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
第26案本院委員馬文君等18人擬拒家庭教育法第7條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第27案本院委員馬文君等16人擬拒老人福利法第25條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
5885.219 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
5913.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
第二十八案本院委員馬文君等16人擬拒所得稅法第17條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第二十九案本院委員馬文君等17人擬拒中華民國刑法第339條及第339條姿勢條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交司法及法治委員會審查宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
5913.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
5941.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
第三十案本院委員許富軌等18人擬拒兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第24條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢五一通過下一案第三十議案本院委員許富軌等18人擬拒身心障礙者權益保障法第10條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
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5942.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
5969.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
無異議通過下一案。第32案本院委員徐富鬼等17人擬具娛樂稅法第2條及第5條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請願會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第33案本院委員徐富鬼等18人擬具學校衛生法第25條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請願會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
5970.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
5998.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
第三十四案本院委員張家俊等19人擬聚,農村再生條例第二條及第七條條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請運會交經濟委員會審查,宣讀完畢。衛議通過下一案第三十五案本院委員張家俊等20人擬聚,老年農民福利津貼暫行條例第四條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交社會福利及衛生環境經濟內政三委會審查,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
6000.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
五、一通過下議案五、一通過下議案五、一 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
6027.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
6053.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
無異議通過下一案。第38案博文委員張雅玲等19人擬具學生輔導法部分條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第39案博文委員林楚英等18人擬具全民健康保險法第13條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
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6055.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
6083.792 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
第四十案本院委員林楚英等18人擬拒人工生殖法部分條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交世衛福利及衛生環境司法及法制兩委員會審查宣讀完畢第四十議案本院委員林楚英等17人擬拒金融監督管理委員會主持法第二條及第四條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交司法及法制財政兩委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
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6084.841 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
6112.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
無異議通過下一案。第42案本院委員林楚英等17人擬拒銀行法陣定第133條之2條文查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第43案本院委員林楚英等17人擬拒證券投資人及期貨交易人保護法第10條之1條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
6113.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
6138.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
無異議通過下一案第44案本院委員王美惠等17人凝聚海洋保育法草案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交內政委員會審查宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第45案本院委員王美惠等18人凝聚國民年金法第54條之一條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
6140.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
6167.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
第46案本院委員王美惠等17人凝聚老年農民福利津貼暫行條例第4條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交社會福利及衛生環境經濟內政三委會審查宣讀完畢第47案本院委員王美惠等18人凝聚個人資料保護法部分條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交經濟委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
6168.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
6170.934 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
6196.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
6221.938 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
第50案本院委員吳思瑤等16人拟據《文化基本法》第24條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請與會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第51案本院委員吳思瑤等17人拟據《教育基本法》第二條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請與會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案 |
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6222.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
6251.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
第52案本院委員吳思瑤等17人擬拒國立大學校院校務基金設置條例第5條及第7條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請願會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢五一通過下一案第53案本院委員吳思瑤等16人擬拒教師法部分條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請願會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢五一通過下一案 |
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6252.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
6278.215 |
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第54案本會委員范雲等18人擬拒立法委員行為法第7條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢五一通過下一案第55案本會委員嚴匡衡等18人擬拒建築法第73條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢五一通過下一案 |
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第56案本院委員嚴寬恒的20人凝聚所得稅法第5條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員委員會意見您請院會交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢五議通過下一案第57案本院委員羅志強的20人凝聚核子反應器設施管制法第6條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員委員會意見您請院會交教育及文化委員會審查宣讀完畢五議通過下一案 |
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6335.086 |
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第58案本院委員羅志強等24人擬據《刑事訴訟法》第116條之2條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第59案本院委員羅志強等26人擬據《中華民國刑法》第161條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
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6363.442 |
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第60案本院委員羅自強等28人凝聚中華民國刑法第339條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第61案本院委員羅自強等25人凝聚地方民意代表費用資給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第6條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
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6364.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
6392.817 |
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無異議通過下一案。第62案本院委員羅自強等29人擬拒食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交世衛福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案。第63案本院委員陳庭飛等16人擬拒噪音管制法第26條及第28條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交世衛福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
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6393.837 |
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6421.807 |
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五議通過下一案。第64案本院委員陳庭飛等18人擬拒公平交易法部分條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交經濟委員會審查宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。第65案本院委員陳庭飛等16人擬拒中華民國刑法第276條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交司法及法治委員會審查宣讀完畢。五議通過下一案。 |
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6422.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
6448.696 |
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第66案本院委員陳婷菲等18人擬拒組織犯罪防治條例第4條條文修正常案請審議案。程旭委員會意見您請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案第67案本院委員陳婷菲等17人擬拒修防法部分條文修正常案請審議案。程旭委員會意見您請院會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案 |
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6449.144 |
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6477.118 |
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第68案本院委員徐宇珍等18人凝聚不在即投票罰草案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交內政委員會審查宣讀完畢五一通過下一案第69案本院委員羅美玲等18人凝聚地方民意代表費用資給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第6條條文修正草案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交內政委員會審查宣讀完畢五一通過下一案 |
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6501.946 |
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第七十案本月委員羅美琳等18人擬拒國際法徵定第六條之一條文朝案請審議案。程旭文會意見你請運會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第七十一案本月委員羅美琳等21人擬拒國際法第四條條文修正常案請審議案程旭文會意見你請運會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
6502.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
6532.593 |
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無異議通過下一案。第七十二案本院委員羅美琳等22人擬據新住民權益保障法草案請審議案。程訊委員會意見您請願會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第七十三案本院委員羅美琳等20人擬據外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第14條條文修正查案請審議案。程訊委員會意見您請願會交經濟、世衛福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
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6533.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
6555.837 |
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第74案本院委員魯明哲等24人擬聚公民投票不在及投票法草案請審議案程序委員會意見你請應會交內政委員會審查宣讀完畢無異通過下一案第75案本院委員魯明哲等23人擬聚所得稅法第17條條完修正草案請審議案程序委員會意見你請應會交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
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6556.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
6584.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
五一通過下一案。第七十六案本院委員魯明哲等二十四人女聚學校公參法草案請審議案程序委員會意見你請願會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。第七十七案本院委員魯明哲等二十四人女聚偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第十六條條文修正草案請審議案程序委員會意見你請願會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
6585.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
6612.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
第78案本院委員魯明哲等24人擬拒立法委員互選院長副院長辦法第一條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見擬起議會交司法及法治委員會審查宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第79案本院委員陳秀寶等21人擬拒教育人員任用條例部分條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見擬起議會交司法及法治教育及文化兩委會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
6614.059 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
6630.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
五一通過下一案。第八十案本院委員陳秀寶等21人擬拒中央廣播電台設置條例部分條文修正查案請審議案。傳訊委員會意見您請委員會交司法及法治、教育及文化兩委委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
6631.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
6647.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
第81案本院委員陳秀寶等18人擬拒學校法人及其所屬私立學校教職員退休撫恤離職之前條例第8條條文修正草案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會教司法及法治教育及文化兩委會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
6649.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
6675.796 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
第82案本院委員陳秀寶等22人擬拒國家語言研究發展中心設施條例查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交司法及法治教育及文化兩委會審查。宣讀完畢第83案本院委員陳秀寶等18人擬拒娛樂稅法第二條及第五條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢第82案 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
6677.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
6703.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
第84案本院委員陳秀寶等22人擬拒老年農民福利津貼暫行條例第4條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交社會福利及衛生環境、經濟、內政三委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異通過下案第85案本院委員黃建豪等16人擬拒住宅法第4條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
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6704.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
6733.087 |
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無異議通過下一案。第86案本院委員黃建豪等20人擬據《中華民國刑法》第286條條文修正長案請審議案。程序委員會意見擬請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第87案本院委員黃建豪等19人擬據《中華民國刑法》第339條之4條文修正長案請審議案。程序委員會意見擬請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
6734.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
6763.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
無異議通過下一案。第88案本院委員黃建豪等20人擬據環境影響評估法第6條條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第89案本院委員黃建豪等19人擬據食品安全衛生管理法第56條之一條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
6765.783 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
6791.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
第90案本月委員黃建豪等16人凝聚勞工保險條例第63條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請用會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢第91案本月委員黃建豪等20人凝聚環境基本法第23條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請用會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
6794.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
6817.688 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
第92案本院委員黃建豪等17人凝聚氣候變遷意應法第5條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見您請願會交社會福利及衛生環境、經濟、財政、內政、交通、教育及文化6委員會審查。宣讀完畢第93案本院委員羅廷偉等18人凝聚海洋保育法長案請審議案程序委員會意見您請願會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
6821.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
6840.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
無異議通過下一案。第九十四案本委員羅廷偉等16人擬拒學校法人及其所屬私立學校教職員退休輔具離職資遣條例第八條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見你請院會教司法及法治教育及文化兩委會審查宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
6841.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
6866.556 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
第95案本院委員羅廷偉等16人擬拒身心障礙者權益保障法部分條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第96案本院委員蔡易瑜等17人擬拒土地法第73條之一條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
6867.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
6893.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
五議通過下一案。第97案本院委員蔡易宇等17人擬拒森林法部分條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請議會交經濟委員會審查。宣讀完畢五議通過下一案。第98案本院委員蔡易宇等19人擬拒運動產業發展條例第26條之二條文修正查案請審議案程序委員會意見你請議會交教育及文化委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
6894.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
6923.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
五一通過下一案。第九十九案本院委員蔡易宇等十八人擬據刑事訴訟法第九十二條、第二百二十八條及二百六十三條之一條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請運會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。第一零零案本院委員蔡易宇等十八人擬據刑事投訴審判法第六條條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請運會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
6926.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
6938.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
第10議案本月委員蔡易瑜等17人擬據《中華民國刑法》第339條之4條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請應會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
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6940.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
6968.382 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
第10二案本月委員蔡易宇等18人擬拒老年農民福利津貼暫行條例第4條條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交社會福利及衛生環境經濟內政三委員會審查。宣讀完畢第103案本月委員蔡易宇等16人擬拒國民年金法部分條文修正長案請審議案程序委員會意見您請院會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
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6969.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
6995.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
無異議通過下一案。第104案委員陳俊宇等24人擬拒。帖路法第40條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第105案委員陳俊宇等21人擬拒。勞動基準法第57條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
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6996.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
7023.755 |
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五一通過下一案。第106案。博弈委員高金樹梅等21人擬拒。地方制度法第33條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交內政、司法及法治兩委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。第107案。博弈委員高金樹梅等17人擬拒。立法院主持法第33條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請院會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
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7024.727 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
7051.733 |
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五一通過下一案。第108案。委員張志倫等16人擬拒公務人員退休之前撫恤法第37條條文修正常案請審議案。循序委員會意見你請運會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。第109案。委員鄭天才等19人擬拒海洋保育法長案請審議案。循序委員會意見你請運會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下一案。 |
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7052.216 |
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7052.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
無異議通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
7067.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
7084.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
第1議議案．1月委員廖偉祥的18人年距113年度強化經濟安全與社會穩定及稅收超徵全民共享發放現今特別條例草案請審議案。﹐程序委員會意見你請院會交經濟、內政、財政、交通、社會福利及衛生環境五委會審查。﹐宣讀完畢 |
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7087.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
7110.316 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
第1、2案委員委員、廖偉祥等17人擬拒都市計劃法第83條之一條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請願會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第1、2案委員委員、黃仁等17人擬拒反族群歧視法草案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請願會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
7112.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
7135.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
第114案,委員委員黃仁等18人凝聚促進族群平等法草案,請審議案。程序委員會意見,請議員會交內政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。第115案,委員委員黃仁等17人凝聚原住民族學校法草案,請審議案。程序委員會意見,請議員會交教育及文化內政兩委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
7136.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
7139.167 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案 |
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7163.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
7190.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
五一通過下議案。第118案。博越委員謝依鳳等17人離聚。就業保險法第14條條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請用會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢。五一通過下議案。第119案。博越委員謝依鳳等17人離聚。中華民國刑法第339條之4條文修正常案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請用會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
7192.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
7215.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
第1、2、0案委員委員呂玉玲等19人擬拒地方民意代表費用資給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第6條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請議員會交內政委員會審查宣讀完畢第1、2、1案委員委員呂玉玲等16人擬拒動物保護法第10條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請議員會交經濟委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
7219.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
7229.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
第1、2、2案本院委員呂玉玲等16人女拒動物保護法第25條及第25條之一條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請議員會交經濟委員會審查宣讀完畢第1、2、3案本院委員呂玉玲等17人女拒野生動物保育法第19條、第21條及第21條之一條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見你請議員會交經濟委員會審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
7249.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
7278.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
五一通過下一案。第124案博越委員副坤啟登53人擬聚環島高速鐵路建設特別條例長案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請運會交經濟交通兩委員會審查。選讀完畢。五一通過。第125案博越委員副坤啟登53人擬聚國道6號東延花蓮建設特別條例長案請審議案。程序委員會意見您請運會交交通委員會審查。選讀完畢。五一通過。 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
7279.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
7308.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
第126案本月委員富坤起等40人凝聚國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第4條、第8條及第10條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交司法及法制交通兩委員會審查宣讀完畢無異通過下一案第127案本月委員林月琴等19人凝聚勞動基準法第二條條文修正常案請審議案程序委員會意見您請運會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢無異通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
7309.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
7333.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
第1、2、8案本院委員林月琴等19人擬拒勞動基準法第20條條文修正草案及審議案。程序委員會意見你請用會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查。宣讀完畢無異議通過第1、2、9案本院委員林月琴等10千人擬拒公益階壁者保護法草案及審議案程序委員會意見你請用會交司法及法治委員會審查。宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
7334.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
7337.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
7362.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
7365.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案五、一、通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
7391.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
7416.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
無異議通過下一案。第13、4案委員臺灣民眾黨黨團凝聚預算法第83條條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請應會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第13、5案委員臺灣民眾黨黨團凝聚中央銀行法第20條及第33條條文修正查案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請應會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
7417.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
7444.112 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
無異議通過下一案。第136案委員臺灣民眾黨黨團凝聚促進全國住宅使用特別稅條例查案請審議案。程序委員會意見你請應會交財政委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第137案行政院韓軍審議道路交通管理處罰條例第7條之一、第63條及第63條之二條文修正查案案。程序委員會意見你請應會交交通委員會審查。宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
7446.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
7468.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
第138案,行政院含金審議,行人交通安全設施條例長案案,程序委員會意見你請應會交內政交通兩委員會審查,宣讀完畢第139案,內政不含,未修正,建築物,室內裝修管理,頒發第20條之一條案等四項法規,程序委員會意見你請應會交內政委員會,宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
7469.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
7490.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
無異議通過下一案。第140案,內政部函送消防設備人員法申請細則,程序委員會意見,你請運會交內政委員會,宣讀完畢。無異議通過下一案。第141案,內政部函送火災證明及火災調查資料申請辦法,程序委員會意見,你請運會交內政委員會,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
7492.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
7515.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
第1、4、2案內政部函為修正威權統治時期國家不法行為返還被害者財產所有權申請及處理辦法第12條及第13條條文程序委員會意見你請運會交內政委員會宣讀完畢第1、4、3案內政部函縱消防設備人員懲戒委員會與懲戒附身委員會組織及審議規則程序委員會意見你請運會交內政委員會宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
7520.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
7543.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
第1、4、4案（內政部函送防驗性能認證實施辦法﹐程序委員會意見,您請運會交內政委員會。宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。第1、4、5案（內政部函送防驗物品或其材料防驗性能試驗標準﹐程序委員會意見,您請運會交內政委員會。宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
7543.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
7564.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
第146案,內政部函,未修正,內政部受理施地保育法,鎖定查詢及申請許可案件收費標準,第二條,第四條及第五條條文,程序委員會意見,您請運會交內政委員會,宣讀完畢。第147案,內政部函,送消防安全設備設計監照測試及檢修作業辦法,程序委員會意見,您請運會交內政委員會,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
7571.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
7582.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
第1、4、8案﹐內政部含送廢紙﹐內政部法規委員會組織規程等組織法規發布令刊物表﹐程序委員會意見你請會交司法及法制內政兩委員會﹐宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
7583.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
7612.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
無異議通過下一案第149案祕經濟部函送駐越南台北經濟文化辦事處與駐台北越南經濟文化辦事處政府開發協助融資合作架構協定程序委員會意見你請運會交經濟外交及國防兩委會宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案第150案經濟部函未修正度量恆氣檢定檢查辦法部分條文程序委員會意見你請運會交經濟委員會宣讀完畢無異議通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
7613.067 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
7635.383 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
第151案,經濟部函為修正海堤管理辦法部分條文,程序委員會意見,您請應會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。午1通過下一案。第152案,經濟部函送採取土石免申辦土石採取許可管理辦法第10條條文,第10條修正條文對照表及第5條附表3刊物表,程序委員會意見,您請應會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
7639.112 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
7659.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
第153案經濟不含、未修正、公共工程或公有建築物再生能源發電設備設置條件程序委員會意見,你請委員會交經濟委員會。宣讀完畢報告委員會臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查因此我們本案交經濟委員會審查下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
7660.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
7684.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
第153經濟部函送活動斷層地質敏感區F0024預理斷層,程序委員會意見,您請運會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。無異議通過,下議案。第155案,經濟部函為修正戰略性高科技貨品種類,特定戰略性高科技貨品種類及輸出管制地區之輸往俄羅斯及白俄羅斯高科技產品清單,程序委員會意見,您請運會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。無異議通過。 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
7689.332 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
7712.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
第156案,經濟不涵,未修正,貨品輸入管理辦法,程序委員會意見,您請運會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案第157案,農業不涵,未修正,動物用藥品許可查驗規費收費標準,第五條及第六條條文,程序委員會意見,您請運會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
7713.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
7737.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
第158案,農業部函為修正中華民國輸入植物或植物產品檢疫規定,以有條件輸入植物或植物產品之檢疫條件第10點規定,程序委員會意見,您請用會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。問議通過下一案。第159案,農業部函為修正動物用藥品檢驗標準部分條文,程序委員會意見,您請用會交經濟委員會,宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
7738.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
7749.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
無異通過下議案。第160案,農業部函為行政院農業委員會農業試驗所辦理農業蟬毒快速檢驗與植物病原檢測及農藥田間試驗收費標準,名稱修正為,農業部農業試驗所辦理農藥殘留快速檢驗與植物病原檢測及農藥田間試驗收費標準,並修正第二條條文。程旭委員會意見,您請運會交經濟委員會。宣讀完畢。無異通過下議案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
7766.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
7793.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
第16一案財政部函送駐韓國臺北代表部與駐臺北韓國代表部避免所得稅雙重課稅及房渡討稅協定中文、韓文及英文本,並至112年12月27日生效。程序委員會意見,擬請議員會交財政、外交及國防兩委員會。宣讀完畢。第16二案財政部函為修正一頁、四頁所得稅查核準則部分條文。程序委員會意見,擬請議員會交財政委員會。宣讀完畢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
7797.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
7809.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
第163案金融監督管理委員會函為修正公開發行公司股東會議事手冊因行記載及遵行事項辦法第6條條文程序委員會意見你請應會交財政委員會。宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
7812.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
7839.972 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
第16四案教育部函為特殊教育支援服務與專業團隊設置及設施辦法名稱修正為特殊教育支持服務及專業團隊運作辦法並修正條文程序委員會意見您請用會交教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢第16五案教育部函為修正各級學校聘任特殊專才者協助教學辦法程序委員會意見您請用會交教育及文化委員會宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
7840.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
7854.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
無異議通過下議案．第166案．核能安全委員會函為廢紙行政院原子能委員會顧問臨聘及集會辦發．程序委員會意見一起用會交教育及文化委員會．宣讀完畢．無異議通過下議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
7855.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
7883.379 |
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第167案國家科學及技術委員會函送駐印尼台北經濟貿易代表處與駐台北印尼經濟貿易代表處災害管理瞭解備忘錄。程序委員會意見你請議員會交教育及文化外交及國防兩委員會。宣讀完畢無異通過下一案第168案交通部函為廢止交通部法規委員會組織規程等49項法規及編制表程序委員會意見你請議員會交司法及法治交通兩委員會。宣讀完畢 |
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無異通過下一案。第169案交通部函送臺灣日本關係協會與公益財團法人日本臺灣交流協會間加強鐵路業務交流及合作瞭解備忘錄程序委員會意見您請用會交交通外交及國防兩委員會宣讀完畢。無異通過下一案 |
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第170案交通部內政部函為修正違反道路交通管理事件統一裁罰基準及處理細則第二條條文並至112年11月24日施行程序委員會意見你請運會交交通內政兩委員會。宣讀完畢 |
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第17議案密法務部涵送中華民國臺灣法務部調查局洗錢防治處與開曼群島金融申報管理局關於涉及洗錢相關前置犯罪及資助恐怖主義金融情資交換合作瞭解備忘錄。我方淪陷英文約本及中義本影本。程序委員會意見擬起應會交司法及法制外交及國防兩委員會宣讀完畢。 |
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第一期二案衛生福利不含重社會工作室懲戒及懲戒附身委員會設置審議辦法程序委員會意見一期應會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢衛生福利不含重社會工作室懲戒及懲戒附身委員會設置審議辦法程序委員會意見一期應會交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢衛生福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢衛生福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢衛生福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢衛生福利及衛生環境委員會� |
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第173案187案到192案194案到198案201案203案至226案265案266案277案281案國民黨黨團提議改交審查。第173案 |
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一百九十六案一百九十七案兩百三十一案兩百三十六案到兩百四十案臺灣民眾黨黨團提議改交審查宣讀後以上提案均交均改交相關委員會審查其餘議案均照程序委員會意見通過請問院會有無異議 |
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第173案教育部,第174案至186案僑務委員會,第187案中央研究院,第188案至198案教育部,第199案至206案文化部,第207案至213案國家科學及技術委員會,第214案至第219案國家運輸安全調查委員會,第220案至226案行政院公共工程委員會, |
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第二、二、七案至二、三、三案行政院人事行政總署第二、三、四案至二、三、五案全序部第二、三、六案公務人員保障及培訓委員會第二、三、七案至第二、四、二案法務部第二、四、三案至二、四、四案衛生福利部第二、四、五案至二、九、三案環境部含為一百十三年度相關預算一百十三年度中央政府總預算等預算決議分別檢証相關報告宣讀完畢。 |
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報告委員會第294案以下請一併宣讀。宣讀後均與準與被查。請宣讀。 |
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第294案是298案為本院內政經濟教育及文化交通委員會函為院會交付審查行政院107年度中央政府總預算決議案等案均與於年度預算執行期間。第299案為本院教育及文化委員會函為院會交付審查財端法人高等教育評鑑中心基金會等110年度決算書案等案。 |
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均已於決算法第28條鎖定審議期限。第300案至301案為委員教育及文化社會福利及衛生環境委員會函為院會交付審查相關行政命令均已於立法院職權行使法第61條鎖定審查期限。 |
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第302案至第33辦案為本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會報告審查相關人民團體請願案及審查結果均不成為應案案。質詢事項：行政院答覆部分,行政院含送本院盧委員志強所提質詢之書面答覆共一件,以本院委員質詢部分、本院協委員榮介等向行政院提出質詢共兩件。宣讀完畢。 |
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現在進行對行政院院長施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。今天繼續進行經濟組織質詢。現在請林委員德福質詢。 |
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謝謝院長是不是請陳院長麻煩請陳院長備詢還有王部長麻煩請經濟部部長備詢六委員早安院長你好我請教我們都知道在民進黨在過去這段時間 |
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在立法院裡面真的是一黨獨大。民進黨前主席是蔡英文主席。她執政7年,7年多來真的是碾壓民意。民進黨想通過的法案真的是暢行無阻。不想通過的法案就擱職也沒有下文,因為表決都輸。 |
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蔡英文總統在卸任前兩個月才突然想啟動朝野對話約見柯文哲主席來討論的這些勞保年金改革還有提升國防預算包括強化社會安全網以及政黨溝通的平台上述內容每樣都與行政院息息相關請問陳院長 |
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你有什麼看法?但是過去那7年多都沒有改,現在要卸任人家說八個八十來改,你認為北方不會來改? |
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是不是他認為說應該要給下一任賴清德總統繼續就是他跟他在野黨主席探討的要繼續來改?是不是這樣子?我想就是朝野這樣的良性的這個互動我舉沒有阿現在要現任兩個月才來阿現在因為還有很多的重要的事情要做像年金改革就需要有朝野之和老早就要改了阿但是沒有改阿現在已經北風北了才來改我請教你齁 |
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到底這個蔡總統要跟在野黨主席來互動談一些議題有沒有跟陳院長你溝通過、討論過?有沒有?有,我們有討論過他有問過哪些議題比較重要然後需要我們無縫接軌就是蔡總統跟賴總統之間可以無縫接軌還有哪些案子要繼續談 |
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因為其實這個老早就要做了,但是北風北才來做,其實老百姓真的是很失望。為什麼?因為有很多重要的議題,你去年多來也沒有接受這個媒體的採訪,媒體一定會問嘛。有一些像剛剛我提的那些很多的議題,包括勞保年金的也要倒啦,對不對?而且每一年台電都要補那麼多錢,等等這些議題其實再潮再野本來就要溝通。 |
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但是啊在總統7年多幾乎都沒有做嘛520要交接以前院長後續在野黨 |
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你認為應該要如何來加強溝通跟互動?施政跟在野?我想我們對於這一個重要的法案或者是重要的改革的議題我們很希望很誠摯的希望跟在野黨一起來溝通譬如說剛才的勞保年金改革還有軍事採購的預算還有這個社會安全網我覺得我們因為我的任內我們認為是一定要做到519 |
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而且要戰戰兢兢的做好這件事情,這些都是我們最短期內就要開始來推動的,所以我們也很感謝蔡總統跟柯主席有這樣的一個對談。老百姓是很失望,為什麼七年多幾乎都沒有動,你現在在野黨你認為很末世,因為我一直發覺說 |
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這個在立法院的執政黨的委員是行政院立法局的委員真的因為幾乎表決都過只要你們行政院提的案子任何案子都過那你到北風北的才來提這個這個老早就要應該要做因為在朝在野溝通只要呼國立民的本來就應該要做但是沒有做到我們把這幾個議案認真在這幾個兩個月來做那個近日 |
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我想因為法院有開庭代表了這個疫苗的採購合約不是不能公開那為何不以德國BNT卻有個失敗的合約內容為500萬劑每劑43塊美元而郭台銘董事長成功的以每劑30元的美元來採購疫苗 |
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那本席再次我在這裡還是再次向郭台銘董事長表示感謝之意因為在最緊急最緊要的時候他真的是這個有為民意來著想但是外界質疑為何政府在整個民間採購價格上一計落差13美元 |
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因為總價高達6500萬美元那郭台銘董事長多次呼籲民進黨政府不要擋疫苗那證明了當時民進黨政府意識形態優先於人民健康的安全 |
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講實在話不惜讓人民玩打疫苗還卡住有人力幫這些買到比較便宜疫苗的這些民間人士包括企業界人士來擋他們所以說疫苗採購合約的問題一再推給保密協定保密30年忽視了外界的質疑從來就沒有想到以民意來溝通行政院應該要盡量盡速快速的公布這些採購合約 |
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以遭社會攻勢。院長你有什麼看法?我想這一個疫苗的價格會因為它的時程有關係。疫苗剛剛出來的時候價格一定很貴也就是剛才你講到當時要在採購的時候的43塊可是疫苗它大量產出以後呢它的價格就會減少所以我們需要按照這個時空來推移不能夠只單單比這個價錢譬如說我們後來 |
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委員長文化部鼓勵支持這個 |
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8625.358 |
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國片、那電影尤其最近那個周楚除傷害也列在其中目前他正在中國大陸熱映中那票房累計新台幣17.5億元那根據ECPA這個往 |
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網站的資料顯示,截至在112年12月共有46部臺灣的電影影片依據ECFA服務貿易早期收穫計畫與中國大陸上映。此外,ECFA貨品貿易早期收穫計畫,我國對中國大陸出口的整個情形累計減稅達到 |
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關稅有差不多將近100億的美元99.76億沒有減稅的部分過去是7到8億的美元關稅的部分是7到8億CNN主持人日前在撰文指出他害情勢沒有最危險只有更危險 |
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兩岸關係緊張,官方聯繫管道中斷,ECFA兩岸經濟合作委員會也停擺。最後一次會議是在民國104年,換言之,9年來兩岸之間都沒有再開過經濟合作的交流會議。 |
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我想這一個和平對談特別是在經濟方面雙方如果說願意坐下來談當然是最好可是 |
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兩岸之間的交流需要雙方都釋出善意那臺灣一直在這方面都有釋出善意也願意在平等對等的這個和平民主的對談但是現在的也有過時過境遷像你剛才談到ECFA的這個狀況還有特別是最近的經濟的狀況那我們也都知道說臺灣最近的經濟發展相當的不錯而且我們市場的開拓的對象 |
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那你講到這裡我再請教 |
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8779.187 |
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像CPTPP洽簽進度英國跟台灣都是在2021年同時提出入會的申請那英國已經在2023年成功的成功已經加入了CPTPP反觀我們能為加入CPTPP這個輪值主席國2024年是加拿大 |
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國人十分關心我們何時可以加入CPTPP此外臺美21世紀的貿易倡議簽署後民眾也關心臺美FTA自由貿易協定何時會有具體的一個成果因為我一直認為不要只有做大內宣但實質的進度都沒有外界關心的重點關稅還是關稅 |
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那有沒有產業能夠獲利哪些產業能夠受到衝擊那個院長跟部長你們有什麼看法CPTPP的部分確實英國到目前為止都還沒有完成程序那現在目前有大概6個 |
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﹚國會議 |
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8872.911 |
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臺美貿易21世紀的貿易倡議第一階段現在簽署了也謝謝我們大院這邊有來支持另外第二階段也在洽談當中會盡快的來進行除此之外 |
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美國現在有一個非常重要就是避免雙重課稅的相關的法案這個是一個非常重要的一個里程碑 |
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8929.495 |
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那也得到兩黨的支持那這個我們希望在4月的時候有一個比較好的進展那這個會非常有實質的意義因為你們開放萊克多巴胺的美豬進口為例政府設置百億的養豬產業基金來因應針對加入CPTPP或台美的FTA那國內可能會受到衝擊的一些產業我想政府應該提早跟產業做說明 |
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提出一些起草的因應我認為這個很重要所以照顧豬農的部分這幾年農委會做的非常多的工作有關於那個百育基金的部分事實上我們 |
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這幾年非常致力於整個豬的產業的提升保存序值的養殖的部分把它高層化減少它的廢污水的一個排放那在屠宰場的部分我們也提高它的一個屠宰的效率跟屠宰的一個衛生安全的部分那這個部分更重要的是我們針對豬農本身的豬隻的保險我們也變成強制型的那讓整個豬產業能夠進一步的一個提升 |
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院長、部長中油背負啞鈴最低價政策的任務中油2022年虧損了2144億元2023年虧損了180億但因為國際會計準則調整與資產重估累積虧損降到318億在日本政府補貼油價的情況下經濟部持續實施啞鈴 |
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的就是亞洲的鄰國最低價的政策外界預料將會擴大中油虧損的虧損那請問陳院長與經濟部王部長520前是否會宣布取消亞鄰的最低價會嗎 |
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9035.894 |
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目前目前是沒有要還沒有要取消那委員講的2022這個虧損很多的原因是當時日本確實在這個油價有非常大的補貼那因為我們都像委員講的都要最低所以就變成日本不斷的補貼中油就不斷犧牲吸收更多的這個成本那目前已經比較恢復比較正常所以目前是用這個機制 |
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因為許多委員都在關心這個最近電價要調漲的事情。一及四月電價審議委員會將宣布調漲電價是眾所周知。那電價與物價都是有高度的相關。今天雖然不是未完的這些最晚組的質詢但是本期提醒陳院長 |
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9081.158 |
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最低工資法明文規定研究小組應在每年4月提出最低工資實施對經濟及就業的狀況之影響報告本席希望最低工資的影響報告考量到電價的漲幅才有助於外界討論最低工資的標準請陳院長務必注意後續這些勞動部處理的情形 |
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這個部分電價的調漲我們是盡可能的在做最細緻的這個調整那在這個調整的過程當中我們當然就會顧慮到這一個民生物價盡量的不要受到影響這個方式來做然後勞動部這個我們也來看 |
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臺灣過度仰賴天然氣發電,造成臺電巨額的虧損。立法院運算中心也指出,臺電幾乎是每賣一度要虧損1元,至2023年底虧損已經達到3826億。臺電提供本席2023年燃氣的購買發電每度是3.62元,核電是1.39元,落差很大。本席是支持以核養綠。 |
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9164.957 |
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謝謝林委員得福的質詢,因為時間的關係,謝謝。也謝謝陳院長悲情,謝謝。接下來我們請登記第10號嚴委員寬恒質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
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主席各位列席官員大家好主席我想請行政院陳院長再請陳院長備詢委員長早安恭喜你當選立委謝謝院長院長我們今天是總質詢那 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
9212.928 |
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這個部分,請看一下,有去過,鳥嘴潭、人工湖6個湖區已經在112年的年底已經完工那這個是為了要供應穩定彰化及南投地區的用水每天完工後每天可以供應彰化21萬噸南投草屯區大概是4萬噸的用水那它就蓋在我們烏溪那人工湖 |
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的部分淨水場呢也蓋在霧日,這個霧峰,霧峰區。當初霧峰在興建這個鳥水潭人工湖的時候剛好碰上了枯水期。在2023年的3月,那時候就在那個大水期,所以那時候有網區根本沒有水塘淹殘。所以說那時候輪區,這個施行輪區限水。 |
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9294.732 |
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阿,居民的直接把矛頭指向是鳥水潭,設置人工湖,所以把這個水截走。雖然我們那個水利署後來有這個出面跟民眾說明說這個鳥水潭,這個灌溉用水跟人工湖沒有直接的關係,但是我要表達的是說我們在這個重大工程的過程當中到底有沒有跟在地的民眾做一個很 |
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很完善的、很完整的這樣子的一個說明。有聽這個背信的訊息嗎?尤其武汪區,武汪區是農業,農業為主,超過73%都是農業用地。那直到民眾其實地方在那邊,政府在那邊做什麼公共政策,民眾都不知道。直到這些工程車進進出出,大大小小的在處理,鄉親才知道原來淨水場要蓋在我們這裡,原來鳥水潭要蓋人工湖。 |
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9350.68 |
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這個部分我想請我另外還有一份資料這個是一個叫做臺中市公害防治協會推出的這個一個初刊他說推動南台中淨水廠在民國111年6月28日感謝立法院副院長何新淳立委林靜儀立委水利署總工程師等等 |
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9357.789 |
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會刊,那我想要請教院長,當時會刊邀請了誰?那悟風有多少位里長參加?那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
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9384.108 |
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這個公聽會開在哪個地方,你們知道嗎?可不可以說明?這個是2022年的時候,我還沒有當。水利署有報告嗎?有跟部長報告嗎?這個比較細節,沒有特別掌握到這麼細節的東西。我們在會後跟委員做說明好了。所以你們也不知道,我跟你講,這個不是水利署開的。 |
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9385.542 |
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9392.15 |
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這不是事後才在網路上面流露出來所以據我所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
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9416.086 |
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我們只有在7月4號的時候在霧峰區開過一次說明會而且這個叫做施工前說明會等於是說112年的11月要開工你們在112年的7月才開說明會那個叫做告知不是意見交流所以當天那一場說明會我有在現場 |
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9417.362 |
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那不光是這樣子齁 |
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因為你們要在霧峰區蓋一個這個叫做寬口井要抽取浮流水然後要把水在那個農事所也蓋了一個淨水場把水抽到淨水場去做淨製之後要送往大理跟太平所以民眾不解釋說霧峰剛好去年才碰上孤水期沒有水可以去灌溉那霧峰區一天只有2.1萬噸的蓄水就是這個民生用水在坑口 |
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9488.875 |
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武豐淨水場要供應霧峰區6萬3千人的用水霧峰區的6萬3千人是戶籍人口還有另外兩所科技大學一個是昭陽科大一個是亞洲大學超過2萬4千名學生所以光是一個日處理量2萬1千噸的淨水場要供應給霧峰超過8萬人 |
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這是不足的,大家都知道不夠。所以霧峰為什麼他們反對?因為我們還有很多的人口跟戶數都是在使用地下水。根據我手上的資料,到去年12月底,我的選區霧峰、烏日、大渡、龍井、沙鹿以霧峰區它的自來水普及率只有82.1% |
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9538.992 |
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護宿兩萬一千四百五十三戶總人口六萬三千八百二十二人按照換算有三千九百一十戶一萬一千四百八十四沒有自來水可以用接近兩成這些人是沒有自來水可以用的所以 |
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9563.681 |
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要在霧峰要來設置一個寬口井,要將霧峰的水把它送到大理跟太平,成為大理跟太平的生活用水。然後霧峰區自己本身限水,限論壇,然後又要讓霧峰去承受這個未來可能缺水,可能沒有水可以用的情況。 |
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所以吳峰在7月4日我說了7月4日的我們水利署舉辦的那一場說明會現場是非常的激動絕對的反對那你們我想要問的是說這個 |
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自來水是公共事業啦吳峰區是我選區裏面自來水補給率最低的只有82%其他的四個區都超過95%自來水補給率更最高的99% |
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所以我可不可以要求說,如果你要在霧峰區設置這個寬口井,要把浮流水抽到大理跟太平,可不可以相對的讓霧峰區可以享有一個更高的自來水供應,讓霧峰區會有超過95%的自來水普及率。 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
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院長跟部長都在對相關的用水我們一定在當地的這個相關的增加水源一定會優先來增加當地的使用那第二個那個無自來水部分呢那這個部分我們也會來逐步改善那現在水利署正在提明年開始的另外一個四年計劃那這個部分呢我們也會把它列到要改善的範圍之內 |
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但是呢,這個霧溪的部分,一定第一個一定會優先來考量霧峰的用水,還有民生跟農業一定會,那這個我們會多跟地方溝通。部長,我知道你啦,我知道你說的是全部的我們的這個用水計畫,包括浮流水,我們霧峰是在二期,二期是包括霧峰的霧溪,但是問題是說,我們現在針對霧峰區 |
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9666.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
9690.157 |
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在我的整個選區裡面在整個台中市裡面自來水普及率算是最低的那現在你要在一個自來水普及率最低的地方而且全部的面積超過73%是農業這個農用的土地然後呢它必須要灌溉那你要把它這個浮流水又要把它淨化成民生用水送往大理跟太平所以你沒有辦法找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
9714.102 |
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水源提供給當地,你要把當地的水送到其他的地方,你又沒有辦法保證地盤不缺水。所以我現在跟你講就是我們用白話的講就是說不要讓霧峰成為二等公民。 不會不會,這個我們一定會,我們一定會有與可遇。 水、電、瓦斯、陽光、空氣這些都是我們的一個最基本的 |
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9738.599 |
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每一個國人都應該享有的權利所以才說部長你會具體的答應就是說我們開始著手提高霧峰區的自來水普及好不好可不可以是他這個就會在無自來水地區怎麼樣做好改善這個我們一定會慎重來考慮一定會有改善計畫可不可以給我一個具體的時間表相關的部分我會請同仁再跟委員做報告是 |
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9739.744 |
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9745.014 |
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這個部分要拜託因為真的是我們是為民發聲這個是鄉親最卑微的要求跟請求 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
9747.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
9774.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
接下來我想請問院長,院長有沒有叫過外賣?像Uber Eats跟福建達這個?沒有欸,我很少,我太太煮飯。本身沒有,但是同事或者是我們這些同仁應該都有叫過外賣,也看過他們想用這些外賣。那你知道外賣有多少人嗎?外送人員?外送人員的這個數目我不是很清楚,因為今天剛好是經濟組,我們勞動部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
9776.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
9782.211 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
我告訴院長,大概14.5萬,全國有14.5萬,那平均每158個人就有一個外送員,不管是兼職或者是正職,那這個人數相當可觀,那你們知道他平均跑一單多少錢嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
9798.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
9810.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
知道就講一下,我不知道,沒關係我跟你講本期看過這個外送平台的社群網站有外送員自己公布他的薪資所得27.4個小時跑了112單賺了7390這27.4小時不是非連續性的,非連續性的,那所以平均為269 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
9820.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
9823.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
按照他的平均時薪來看是高啦但是也是相當的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
9838.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
9862.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
是啦,因為我講各行各業都很辛苦啦,尤其外送員是幫客戶節省一下等餐的時間,購買餐的往返的時間,交通過程當中可能承受的風險,這些東西。我們常常在新聞上面都看到,不管是外送員搶快,智撞或者是發生車禍,甚至於失去生命,還有那個摩托車自燃,自己燒起來。 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
9863.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
9892.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
那個都有啦所以現在消費者顧客利用外送平台主要是為了節省這些潛在的消費成本再加上這些因素所以我想對外送人來講這個報酬率不高真的不高尤其在這個外送平台上面點餐他實際上比本身店家實際我們到店家的這個餐點費用還要貴而且要加上外送費再加上服務費最大的獲益者 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
9893.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
9920.933 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
不是外送員,也不是店家,更不是消費者,是這個外送平台。院長你認同?每個人都有不同的角色,有不同的成本。當然我知道,但是平台是最大的獲利者。那我想根據經濟部你們這個外送平台的一個統計,外送抽成大概在30%以上,30到35,30到35。 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
9923.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
﹚廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
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應該是講說是一個非常險峻的一個工作環境。沒有受到保障的工作環境。院長跟部長可不可以告訴我們如何提升、如何保障他們的工作環境。我現在跟委員報告。勞動部現在的做法就是建立一個對話的平台。我們來協助外送工會跟外送平台業者來建立對話的平台。 |
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昨年的7月到12月已經有開過4次的會議。那雙方就停權申訴制度還有報酬的資訊揭露還有計算方式還有職災的保險給付申請等等都有做過一個很好的溝通那當然委員幫外送員要來爭取更好的工作環境這個我覺得 |
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謝謝,謝謝院長,也謝謝,因為你說去年有4次的會議,那跟這個平台做有效的對話,這部分也感謝,要繼續做,真的要繼續做,要及時的介入,那要重視外送平台是否有違反公平交易法。 |
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我們會來加強那個協助雙方做定期的對話 |
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實質性經常性薪資的一個復成長,那去年經常性薪資是45496,實質經常性為41334,那雖然經常性薪資較去年增加2.43,但實質卻降低了0.05%,連續3年複數,在總薪資方面,明目總薪資為5萬, |
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五八五四五實際總薪資為五三一八九明目上增加了1.43實質上減少了1.04是七年來首次的負成長那薪水對員工來講這個加薪我們目前現在在提高基本薪資加薪有加跟沒加一樣那導致這種狀況的發生我認為就是物價不斷的上漲 |
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委員加薪加班費還有這些獎金的這個發放條長發放趕不上物價通膨的速度那簡單講看得到吃不到越加越窮平衡感越來越強大這個民眾的平衡感 |
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主席 |
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主席我們有請陳院長再請陳院長備詢 |
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陳偉文院長好昨天這個大陸漁船在金門的海域又翻覆了是令人難過這一次兩岸有共同展示一個收救的這個有共同去做收救展示了三一其實包括我們國防部也派蛙人下去協助收救那海巡方面也是就是到日夜有在幫忙收救我們也收救起了一位大陸的漁民雖然已經往生 |
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﹚國會議 |
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海峽兩岸的這個海運協議第7點裡頭事實上就有提到 |
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雙方要積極推動海上搜救打撈機構的合作,建立搜救的聯合合作機制,保障海上航行人身安全,海難事故及時通報,就近互相協助。我們看到昨天管主委提出相關的歉意,雖然是比較晚,但是至少表達我方這邊的 |
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我們還蠻及時的,我們收到通知以後,我們的船到那邊的時間是比大陸的...我說管主委那個是針對上次214事件,314這一次我們是很快的兩方友展,我希望這種東西,我們不希望這樣事件一再發生。我們一向釋出善意。對,說這樣善意的累積對至少在小兩岸之間是有幫助的,很多東西是需要默契和善意,您支持這個想法嗎? |
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我完全支持我昨天在行政院院會裡面就請廣州委轉達我對海巡署同仁的這個加冕然後希望兩岸透過這樣的善意的合作特別是在國際人道救援部分的合作就展現出我們確實有很好的善意希望雙方要有健康有序的這個交流那使雙方的漁民都能夠得到保障我想請問陳院長您支不支持一國兩制 |
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當然不支持吧。當然不支持齁。那你支持在中華民國在臺澎金馬地區實施一國兩制嗎?不支持嘛齁。一定不支持。我們沒有一國兩制。那我想請問陳院長喔,你是高雄人對吧?高雄人你從高雄帶那個水餃啊、餛飩啊,帶上這個臺北的時候需不需要經過檢查?不要啊。不用嘛齁。那你知道從金門帶水餃、帶餛飩 |
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為什麼我們金門人帶東西從金門島帶到台灣島來為什麼要經過檢驗、檢疫這個問題我在這裡問了至少三次以上之前說雞蛋為什麼我們金門人帶雞蛋之前 |
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我跟委員說明齁就是說整個的一個金門地區跟臺灣本島的部分金門地區的藕蹄類它是打疫苗的飛域區那臺灣是不是打疫苗的飛域區我知道我知道你都說了我說對這個事實上上次陳吉仲有回答過很多次啦他是回答是這樣我告訴你他的回答他說因為鳥呢猴鳥會飛到金門 |
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所以金門這些東西啊他的什麼可能就因為金門離大陸很近所以金門很多東西都要那時候說雞蛋這是一個風險之一但是現在目前金門我們離那邊近嘛對那現在因為是那大陸是疫區我們不是啊我們也不是禽流感疫區啊這個也問過很多次了我要講的是說回到追根究柢你們就沒有把我們當作台澎金門那個地區你怎麼不把高雄也給我換下我在委員說明我昨天特別才去金門 |
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那從農業的部分我們不會因為它的所在地而有不同的差別待遇,這第一個。我們農業在施政的輔導跟協助的部分不會因為地區的不一樣。那相關的產品的互動 |
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我們地方沒有禽流桿,你沒有禽流桿你怎麼不把屏東的雞蛋高雄雞蛋限制不能帶台北我們金門沒有禽流桿為什麼金門雞蛋不能帶台北 |
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國兩制國兩制國兩制 |
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10513.312 |
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你如果說很大量的這個東西你限制我雖然可以我們現在已經開放自用了我們現在已經開放自用開放自用沒錯你開放自用然後你規定陳院長你知道規定嗎我唸給你聽就知道你怎麼開放自用你要帶東西之前比如說你要帶之前那個雞蛋 |
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10537.698 |
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台灣有什麼巴西蛋,大家很擔心,我們基本上自己養土雞阿公阿嬤帶幾顆雞蛋,20顆啦齁,怎麼開放自用法,我跟你講你怎麼開放自用法,要帶到,要坐飛機前開到檢疫所去,帶到檢疫所說你幫我檢查檢查,可以開證明我才可以帶,我們要趕飛機的時候,還有那個什麼,扁西啦,混沌那個,水餃啦 |
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對,都要帶到檢疫所去檢查,然後才可以去搭機。這個叫什麼開放啊?不是,這個還是檢疫的問題,而且我們檢疫站本身的衛民服務是做到位的,你可以去問金門的農民有沒有人在反對。部長,我要跟你說,你昨天才剛去金門,不要給金門人帶來這麼多不便,你對大量的,你要限制,我OK,我們配合你。 |
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拜訪議員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
陳院長 |
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以前高雄以前屏東那時候院長是屏東屏東有禽流感金門沒有為什麼金門屏東的雞蛋你不給我檢查才可以上台北你為什麼不幫我檢查我跟委員說明齁禽流管一發生的時候他就移動管制以後他周圍3公里的部分他全部是管制的對那他的雞蛋出來要檢查嗎不會去做移動的部分對對那請問雞蛋那時候屏東的雞蛋出來要帶到台北需要在哪個關卡檢查你可以告訴我沒有那他牽制到如果說你是發生禽流管的部分你是 |
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對嘛那那個區你整個金門都限制嘛在屏東某個景覽機場因為金門本身它是一個離島的部分然後它的風險是不一樣因為我們是一個島我知道因為我們是一個島所以我們只要以前曾經發生過什麼整個島全部都封起來跟以前那個軍事管制一樣啊全島都大演習嘛大家都不要出門嘛所以我說行政院陳院長你口口聲說你不支持一國兩制但是你要知道你們臺北這邊對我們的待遇就跟對高雄是不一樣 |
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你們就再實施一國兩制。現在已經很久了,我希望520之後繼續監禮,你好好的,你也是這方面的專家,幫我們研究一下,自用的部分少量部分不要再這麼老民了。大量的我也是支持你,我配合你的政策,少量的你攢20顆、30顆雞蛋。 |
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委員,檢疫不是這樣,像我們非洲豬瘟要檢疫的時候,甚至...你不要跟我講那些東西,我要跟你講一國之內,境外的你不要跟我討論。對啊,一樣啊,我在講說檢疫的科學。那是境外的,境外的,境外的,基本是境內,基本是境內,讓你們聽懂,基本是中華民國的一部分。 |
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你以後只要高雄給我一樣的限制我也就沒有意見好來我們講這個限制的講完了來我們講開創的院長你知道這個金門的這個離島是歸哪個單位相關的這個法令啊建設啊經費是哪個單位在管理哪個部會哪個部會我們有那個離島的這個哪個部會離島建設條例哪個部會主管啊 |
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你到現在還不知道 連你都不知道 哇 院長欸 他都震上來了 國發會喔 國發會 院長我先請教齁 我們中華民國憲法有規定齁 中華民國憲法有規定說 這個對原住民族的保障齁 徵求條文有寫 齁 說這個要相關的民族對教育文化相關的經濟都要保障齁 金門馬祖 金門馬祖地區一同啦 |
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對,這個三級機關已經滿了 |
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那以前那個什麼促轉會啦,黨產會啦,他怎麼成立的?他說什麼促轉會不受行政院組織法第9條規定限制,還有那個什麼黨產會,不受中央行政組織機關組織基準法規定限制,你們想要做的就都沒有什麼限制啦,你們不想做的都已經滿了啦。你看黨產會促轉會不是這樣成立的嗎? |
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所以我要說我們離島地區也希望成立一個離島委員會原因是因為您日理萬機你看院長你剛剛連哪個委會管我們都不知道我們被管的單位是在國發會下面的一個國土什麼區域離島處對吧 |
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但是政府呢政府已經在這個地方都有成立的這一個連江縣有金門縣有澎湖縣就有地方自治在這個單位裡頭你們國發會的網站所列的主要業務我們離島一個市都沒有在哪裡 |
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沒有欸!國盤會!離島業務是重要業務嗎?我們不會列出來,難道我們要把花蓮、台東也列出來嗎?重要的業務是重要的業務。所以你覺得離島不重要?所以業務報告我一定都會報告,我在委員會的時候。除了在版面上不重視我們,這個就罷了,如果你實際上重視我們,我們也可以接受。來你們看看,你們幾年開始離島會議? |
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一年開幾次?一年開幾次?委員會的話是院長主持。一年開幾次?你告訴我就好。一年一次,本來是兩年一次,之前這邊我問了蘇貞昌才開始開,一個會議當中這麼多事情,院長你也是,我一直說你日理外境沒有辦法。 |
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沒有辦法齁沒有辦法我們就說我們離島也說不然我們弄一個離島的基本法原住民也有啊客家也有啊離島的特色不一樣你都可以給我實施一國兩制我們當然跟你們不一樣對不對你都可以讓我這邊東西不能帶過來高雄屏東花蓮台東有什麼這些地方有哪些東西不能可以會被這樣限制你給我設關卡 |
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10930.018 |
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你願意給我在高雄、屏東、台南每個地方、每個縣市都給我圍起來設一個檢疫站,對不對?你們都覺得把我們當作不一樣的對待,不一樣對待我們也就忍辱負重,為了國家忍辱負重,基本上一向比較忍辱負重,但是你要給我們發展嘛,你要給我們發展,來,我先問你,來,我請問這個國發會, |
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公務機關委主委每一年都有 |
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國務卿,這是你說的,你問各個部會,是不是這樣在實施?是不是這樣在實施?你要幫我拿數據給我看。我請問國防會主委,這個我也本席請你提供我們在上一屆各立委對於離島建設條例修法的這個,你們的對各個委員,當然大部分是離島立委提出來的,離島建設條例都需要修改的部分,符合現況的部分。總共,因為已經這麼多年了, |
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您們回應給我什麼你知道嗎? |
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主委你告訴我,你知道你們怎麼回應我嗎?是你剛才講說是基本法那一個部分沒有沒有,我說對於我們立法院不是提出人家修法嗎?各個委員都有提出來,你們可能可以做不能做,你們給我們回應吧,你重整一下給我你們的回應是什麼?你們你知道貴會、貴委員會提供了什麼答案給我你知道嗎? |
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他當時確實有請這個相關的建議,那有一些不需要修改也就可以做的。院長,你來看一下你下面的單位是怎麼做,我說請提供這個各個立委對李導進的修法你們的回應,你們說什麼?你說請參照這個一個網站連結,你就把那個網站給我。 |
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你們這樣輕忽離島的事物 |
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我們答到答案在這裡,你等一下回去,你們這樣回覆,我們國會議員關心李老師說,欸這些事情到底為什麼不能做啊,到底發生什麼事情啊,你告訴我嘛,你看。你們根本就不在意,你們只給我們限制,你們不給我們發展,你看你的創新,四年來半零件,你們的創新四年來零件,這就是你們的成績。 |
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謝謝陳委員裕貞的質詢也謝謝陳院長的備詢接下來登記第12號吳委員其名以質詢以書面提出請行政院書面答覆並列入紀錄刊登公報在接下來我們請登記第13號賴委員事保質詢 |
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謝謝主席韓院長以及各位先進我們有請行政院的陳院長以及經濟部的王部長再請行政院陳院長備詢經濟部部長備詢賴委員長 |
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兩位長官早我記得就在這個地方同樣是兩位在上面我問了兩位啊有關於AI的部分那時候這個王部長跟我說有啊切的GDP有用一點點那陳院長說你很忙沒有用來我現在給各位看一個數字兩位看一個數字我們講AI啊現在來講AI概念股漲翻天了 |
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結果呢﹖我們都以為說臺灣的A有夠強的強啊﹖結果asked inside政府人工智慧﹖準備度的指數﹖準備度就 readiness﹖你是不是ready﹖我們在2022年第14名﹖2023年第19名﹖ |
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老闆阿,跟我們現在業界來講,我的感覺說,我看到這個書是怎麼可能,啊什麼,啊只有一個答案啦,啊這個政府都假的喔啊,啊那民間這麼強,你看AI |
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MVD這個蝦蝦球、全球乒乒球、AI概念館、藏飯店、結果我們的政府、政府的AI準備度65名,一年內就掉了5名。 |
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這個 院長要不要稍微 施政廳講一點呢我不太清楚這個Oxford Insight的這個指數的標準我會去了解一下我會去了解一下然後看看說通常在做國序評比的時候有些時候因為有新的這個發展所以這個指標的那個content會不一樣 |
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所以我需要了解,這個我不清楚。我跟你們兩位長官講阿,跟你們兩位長官講阿,AI我們本來說我好、你好、我安,前10名都排不上欸,這個是4名、19名。你可以想一想這是國家未來的競爭力,賴清德喔,你認識賴清德嗎?認識嗎?我認識啦,院長也認識喔。賴清德說AI力就是國力。 |
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臺灣需要擁有AI的對話引擎。好了,我們現在跟院長讓你知道一下,國會會推一個台版的CHATGDP,它叫TYPE,但是後面一不發音啦。但是這個出來之後,它只有給企業界用。 |
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民間不能用老百姓沒有用所以不普及啊老百姓沒辦法用就是給企業界來用所以這個我就問這個我想院長可能沒辦法回答問部長 |
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確實國科會有在推動 |
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我要跟你們強調的就是說 |
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來,第二點 |
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我要講一個,我要替台北市政府講話,台電呢,請問台電資本額現在多少?講一下資本額。台電資本額現在應該是6000多億。沒有6000多億要帶生的。 |
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四千多億是吧?四千八啦!然後今年如果再通過就是五千八啦!然後可是呢我們醫護經濟那個那個什麼還稅漁民啊我們給你五百億那該不是資本額勒然後又補貼又一千億欸動輒五六千億啊但是長期台電欺負台北市政府卡油台北市政府我們有一個回稅水庫啊有一個回稅水庫 |
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水利發電是再生能源?當然是啊! |
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但是呢,你們買的價格,水利發電你用2.86,2.86價格在哪裡?2.86,水利價,就是輪購費率2.86,為什麼翡翠就給他1.53? |
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聽好啊! |
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臺北市政府核水水庫去年的7月18號發文給經濟部為什麼對我們打消音?你們對於對於兩萬千瓦以下的裝置容量兩萬千瓦以下的你們就是二點八六 |
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可是呢,回去是7萬千萬,你們就不給他,他就是一般的水庫啦,還不是錢的問題而已。由於你們對他這樣子歧視,欺負...他沒有歧視啦,因為他的跟都一樣。我沒跟你講先不要講,我沒跟你講你就先zip,嘴巴先zip。 |
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因為這樣子,因為不僅僅一年損失了3億,如果你到2.86有3億元,對台北市政府一步一步小補,這個錢沒有很多錢,對你們來講也是小錢。但是最終我不在這裡,在於他拿不到再生人員憑證,他現在沒有再生人員憑證,以後有探權的交易,這個院長很清楚, |
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負責負責負責負責負責負責負責 |
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可是又不用2.86結果他就沒有再生人員憑證我要強調是拿不到再生人員憑證對未來來講他的探權教育是很大的傷害是委員這個我已經在解決了這個我已經在解決了那因為他這個其實有國際的標準就是說 |
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一個大的水庫它發的水利什麼條件下是符合那這個要認證那所以這個部分我們已經釐清了我們覺得像翡翠、德基這種大水庫還是可以去認證認證之後就可以拿到憑證什麼時候可以拿到憑證這個規範認證是翡翠要去認證德基要去認證這個規範我現在就積極處理應該很快就出來了 |
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但是認證是各個水庫要去認證?為什麼提這個?因為五年一次議約,今年的年底已經到了。所以回退水庫一直覺得長期被欺負也不是辦法。 |
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就是區區3區區1跟委員報告確實齁他不是這個就是說當他可以認證他這個的發電量可能百分之多少符合國際規定啦齁就可以直接去賣給民間動作給你們台電1000億500億沒有這個我在處理了你增加到4000多增加4800變成5800啊你也計較這個3億 |
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這不是計較善意的問題是一起要解決大水庫的問題你不修法我來修我告訴你好我們再看一個很重要的事情我想兩位都同意了人員危機就是國安危機同意吧這就同意吧同意我們現在請問燒最多的一個燃料是什麼 |
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天然氣對不對?除量的部分比較少是天然氣天然氣最多嘛天然氣能夠存幾天 |
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目前的部分大概11天多11天?你們裝置有人講14天,沒關係11天14天,一下子沒有萬里兩岸真的打仗,你可以看齁,我們現在整體給大家的感覺是,齁台灣很緊張啊,大家要備戰啊,買武器啊,人員動員啊,這些東西,臺灣老百姓很善良,都支持啊,跟你支持啊,但是有一塊很重要的, |
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我當然不相信老公會封鎖台灣海峽可是 |
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有一個情況絕對發生的,就是什麼?兩岸關係這麼壞的情況之下,如果老共真的哪一天想到了要給你做一件事情,就最近的事情跟有關係啊,海警船在我們台灣的西南那裡,我們的天然氣從那裡上來,對吧?那裡最多吧,西南最多。我們都有,對,路線好幾個路線。來來來,我地圖給你看。 |
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我們從北邊下來的只有兩個來源一個是美國一個是俄羅斯俄羅斯斷了嘛俄羅斯不買了美國佔了多少?你告訴我幾%?美國目前大概佔10%左右上下前幾年數字1%而已後來有比較高對後來有比較高前幾年1%後來多一點沒有到10%了不要亂講喔 |
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沒有10%,大概也有7、8%啦,有比較高啦。 |
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幾可能發生,而且我讀過有一些的兵推就這樣推喔,你不要看下去說兩岸打仗啊,武器啊,人啊,energy,人員,只要你 |
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沒天然氣喔,國都炒起來了,國都炒起來,然後你們又不要用核電,所以這個事情只有兩個解方,第一個,你現在只有11天嘛,怎麼樣能夠增加儲存的天數,請問你? |
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有,所以這個增加儲槽的部分確實要建,包括三街就是現在在蓋,然後台中港增加儲槽。沒有沒有,現在正在蓋啊,包括三街現在也是在蓋增加儲槽的部分。 |
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世界當然要啊,所以我們確實是...所以世界其實也是大家要支持啦,是。其實,更簡單的事情,現在馬上一個題目我們做球給你啦,你們不做我們來做,現在我們人多,合二合三,圓一。 |
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好不好這樣? |
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合二合三演議,按照現在的這個辦法,應該要在5年前就來申請。那即使說我們修法了以後,到現在該處理的那一天,不是馬上演議,需要有一段時間做安全性的檢查。那安全性的檢查是2到5年。 |
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你看一看賴清德的白筆書裡面喔賴清德公開講喔你知道賴清德是誰了齁公開說喔國家如果面臨安全的問題就國安危機可以重啟核電 |
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你們不弄我來幫你們弄我來修一個特別法河河河山研議特別條例沒有你剛講要5年的事情這是安全問題全世界任何國家為什麼要在5年前申請就是因為這一個廠要延期以前需要有做專業的安全的核定那這個檢查就是要2到5年阿我告訴你們 |
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人員的穩定性台灣其實是非常脆弱的只有11天你現在最多的天然氣佔了快50%40幾%很清楚的看得到這麼一個危險的情況結果你們居然都 |
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不考慮這個我覺得奇怪最後一個CPTPP你們沒有時間回答我就是把它講蔡英文總統從她當選總統之前就開始講TPP一直講到現在最近還在講我給她算過CPTPP講了13次以上昨天還講結果英國跟我們同時申請了已經加入了我們到現在沒有 |
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才英文總統說破了嘴坦白講只是作秀而已的因為你們都沒有沒有其實確實都有非常謝謝賴委員事保的質詢也謝謝陳院長的備詢接下來我們請登記第14號王委員宏威質詢 |
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謝謝主席我先請陳院長再請陳院長備詢 |
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好,院長好。今天全教總早上召開一個記者會,之前他們也曾經呼籲,也就是五一,五月一號馬上來了,五一勞工放假。但是覺得有一國兩制這是不適合的,所以一直在爭取軍公教也應該在五月一號放假。 |
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當時您曾經說說這次可以值得演繹你也覺得5月1號只有部分的人放假也是不適合的那我想請問今年5月1號有可能嗎?這個內政部還有我們的人事總署有在召開會議現在還沒有開會所以我還不太清楚他們的結論是什麼?對今年5月1號不可能我要看開會的結論嗎? |
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所以我想請問一下其實5月1號如果軍工教要休假的話其實必須要經過修法那麼在你任內會提出修法嗎?不會吧不會所以你的承諾可能要跳票了這一個 |
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我們的做法就是需要讓這個內政部他們開完會。開完會他們的結論之後。開完會然後沒有提修法你也已經下台一鞠躬了。所以今年5月1號沒有辦法實施。然後你也沒有辦法在你任內提出修法。我覺得你應該非常誠實的告訴我們的公教朋友。好不好? |
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我想我不曉得現在內政部的他們的討論的程序結果是怎麼樣。如果你關心,那麼就應該讓內政部來跟你報告。另外,院長請教一下蘇丹紅事件現在已經圓滿解決了嗎? |
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現在還是有在做這些下游流向的這個還是在做處理對不對還是不能夠完全的確定不會再出現新的一些食材或者料理會出現蘇丹紅目前報告就是說我們現在因為在發現了這一個有這一個蘇丹紅以後去年12月開始我們逐批的檢查但是以前的這一個檢驗我們很 |
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衛福部呢就回去做到去年5月到12月的時候就有些這個抽批的檢查抽樣檢查的就逐批檢查現在逐批檢查的部分已經都檢查完所以應該慢慢會收斂了 |
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但是還在處理中院長在你任內在最後的3個月內分別出現了重大的實案事件而且你也承認這是系統性的事件不是個案另外最近我們又發生在全國都非常悲憤的我們1歲半的男童被凌虐致死的案件所以院長你承不承認在你的任內 |
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包括食安出現大的肉鬥,包含社會網也出現大破洞。確實有這個食安的系統性的問題確實存在。然後 |
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議員長,您應不應該針對您在任內最後未盡全功,包含食安重大破洞跟社會網的重大破洞,對社會大眾致歉? |
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我昨天已經有表達過了。我是覺得...你食安問題從來沒有道歉喔!包括薛瑞元還說蘇丹洪道歉,他的道歉也解決不了問題喔!包含這個虐兒事件,到現在為止薛瑞元也沒有道歉,你有道歉我有看到,這個部分我肯定。所以我想請教你,包含食安破洞跟這個兒虐事件的社會安全網,是不是應該跟社會大眾道歉?包含食安事件喔! |
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這個含有含有這個因為你這個食安事件啊你的有點含混但是就辣椒粉食安事件你跟薛瑞元一樣也不願意道歉嗎辣椒粉含有這個 |
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院長有疏漏那你願不願意道歉那我可以來就這一個部分有疏漏的地方 |
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我來代表我們整個食藥署來跟民眾說歉意。我覺得這個是比較負責任的態度。時間暫停一下,請我們經濟部長,王部長。部長、院長,其實現在 |
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我們全國非常關注的一件事情就是電價上漲部長你之前說為什麼電價這次漲幅要這麼高呢是因為全球國際的能源上漲是不是燃料成本確實是增加非常多是錯我今天就要來戳破我們經濟部的謊言電價上漲不是因為國際能源價格的大幅上漲我給部長院長來看 |
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從二無戰爭之後確實國際的這些能源價格天然氣煤還有石油價格確實都在飆升可是後來慢慢都走低你可以看到這個趨勢圖包含天然氣、煤和油價都已經跌回在二無戰爭之前所以現在的國際能源價格是緩和的 |
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所以你現在用這個來做藉口是一個謊言。另外,等一下我再給你一個證明。再來看,過去我們都常常去討論不是只有台電的虧損,因為價格提高。越南知不知道台電今年還會虧損嗎?你知道嗎? |
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中郵希望今年能夠打平 |
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他說還有機會轉虧為盈為什麼呢?因為以中油來說2022年就是惡霧戰爭開打的那一年年初開打所以那一年中油就虧了2000億以上他合理他反映了國際能源價格接下來去年他的虧損大幅收斂今年到現在已經賺了33億為什麼?因為 |
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連中油都承認因為國際能源價格已經趨於和緩所以他今年要去拼轉虧為盈 |
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所以我要告訴你能源價格上漲不是你真正漲電價的原因不要騙我們不要騙社會大眾我以為你要讓我說明等一下不要再聽謊言來我們沒有謊言這個都是透明的謊價唯一的原因是什麼呢是錯誤的能源政策我不同意我現在告訴你剛才我已經跟你講你想什麼能源價格上漲那已經過去了 |
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但是你如果按照這樣2022應該大幅上漲2023應該大幅上漲為什麼到2024你才大幅上漲為什麼因為那兩年都有選舉嘛是不是沒有啊所以我們之前也有漲兩次的這個部分啊兩次但是你不敢大幅上漲是因為到現在你才要補漲好為什麼說你漲價的原因是錯誤能源政策來看一下我可以回一下來院長你知道嗎 |
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我們台電現在從外部的購電那個比例是很高的越來越高我們台電到外面去買電一度4.8來買光電一度6.7來買風電這邊有寫錯字因為風電更貴台電呢賣給 |
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我們的民間賣給我們的消費者平均一度電呢是3.1元好所以你可以看得到我們風電還有光電的成本遠遠高於我們賣電的價格所以大家常常會講說如果台電啊賣一度電虧一度電就是這樣來的 |
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所以我要講的,錯誤的能源政策,臺灣不要發展再生能源嗎?委員不可以用這樣講。我們要發展再生能源,但是我們要不要保持電價合理?我們要不要比較讓我們的消費者能夠接受電價?你可以一直發展再生能源嗎?你現在還有9塊錢10塊錢在買一度電。 |
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沒有,沒有9塊10塊 |
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我一直說啊﹖ |
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我們應該針對河二、河三的研議河三廠7月第一號機組就要除役了這個是賴清德上來的新政府的一個未爆彈他5月上來7月就要除役河三廠一號機組佔全臺灣的發電量3.25%不能說不多 |
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如果按照你們現在的廚藝的進度,它叫廚藝,所以我想請問一下部長,河山廠廚藝之後,我們的替代電力是什麼?我們現在所以有非常多的電力建設在增加,所以包括燃氣機組,包括再生人員都在增加。你們具體講,你們具體講,因為7月很快就到了。 |
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短短4個月就要到了那你現在說很多都在增加增加在哪裡你有具體嗎我現在給你機會喔讓你具體喔我們大壇的這個9號機還有森霸的電廠等等那年底還有這個高雄的信達電廠的1號機這個就是我們今年會上來的時程所以你這些部分就是要彌補和三廠1號機組的廚藝嘛對不對 |
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不僅我們還有增加對不只河山吶吼因為還有一些燃煤機組也要廚藝了是沒錯啊新達電廠也要廚藝啊是不是燃煤的所以我們其實當我們再次我知道今年再生能源應該可以達到10%啦對不對有可是問題是再生能源的它的成長終究沒有那麼快所以我們會越來越 |
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目前臺積電有一個政策說準備在台灣 |
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臺積電最多的嗎? |
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整個的電力的消費比例從2020年的5.9%用全臺的5.9%一直用到7.5%那如果按照他現在新的計劃未來2025他的用電量可能會在全國用電量的12.5%我們一方面希望護國神山能夠多增加這些相關的投資 |
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但是另外一方面他就是用電量非常非常高所以我想請教院長和部長雖然你們很可能在520都不留在位置上但是臺灣的後續永續發展是很重要所以我們現在如果都要用再生能源那麼貴我們撐得起我們的護國神山嗎? |
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欸不對,台積電他反而要增加越來越多的再生能源,因為他對RE100的部分,或者他的客戶的要求,他都告訴我們要趕快來增加更多的再生能源,讓他可以用到更高的再生能源的佔比。這個是台積電台灣的綠電幾乎都被台積電買光了,因為未來的碳費。但是 |
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電的供應要穩定,但是不能太高。我們常常台電講,我們現在比南韓還要低啊什麼的之類。可是這就是我們競爭力的一部分啊。你有本事你調高比南韓還要高嘛。 |
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可以這樣子嗎?在最後一點時間我要為我們的大眾運輸的電費來做澄清因為我們一方面希望節能減碳一方面希望大家能夠盡量用大眾運輸減碳但是以這幾次的漲電價比如說臺北捷運 |
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而我這邊我並不是那麼自私的,所以我只幫台北市的捷運來爭取。 |
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謝謝王委員、紅衛的質詢。謝謝陳院長的備詢。報告院會,上午的質詢到此為止。下午2點30分繼續開會進行質詢。現在休息。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
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報告委員會現在繼續開會,進行經濟組織質詢。陳委員停飛,鍾委員嘉賓之質詢以書面提出。請行政院書面答覆,並列入記錄,刊登公報。現在請羅委員明裁質詢。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
請羅委員明裁質詢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
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請羅委員明財質詢。我們羅委員明財還沒到場。我們就接下來請登記第18位,紅委員申翰質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
21870.814 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
請紅委員升漢質詢。請紅委員升漢質詢。接下來我們請登記第19號秋委員自委質詢。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
21918.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
請邱委員自為諮詢。請邱委員自為諮詢。不在場。接下來登記第20號、21號賴委員瑞隆及邱委員易營諮詢均以書面提出。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
請行政院書面答覆並列入記錄刊登公報。接下來請登記第22號郭委員國文諮詢。請郭委員國文諮詢。請郭委員國文諮詢。報告長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
21953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
繼續我們請登記第23位賴委員會員諮詢賴委員會員諮詢賴委員會員諮詢不在場登記下面我們請登記第24號土委員全級諮詢 |
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21984.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
21993.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
請圖委員全級質詢。請圖委員全級質詢。不在場。我們接下來請登記第25號陳委員貫庭質詢。陳委員貫庭質詢。 |
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22012.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
22036.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
陳委員灌庭質詢不在場。接下來我們請登記第26號林委員楚英質詢。林委員楚英質詢。林委員楚英質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
22039.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
22066.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
不在場。接下來登記第27號書委員巧會之質詢以書面提出請行政院書面答覆並列入記錄刊登公報報告院會羅委員明財之質詢以書面提出請行政院書面答覆並列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
22070.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
22082.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
報告院會經濟組織諮詢已詢答完畢。謝謝陳院長及相關部會社長列席答詢。三月19日星期二上午9時繼續開會進行財政組織諮詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
22099.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
22100.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
現在休息好請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
22194.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
22196.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
謝謝陳院長各位的備詢,大家辛苦了,謝謝 |