| IVOD_ID |
157167 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157167 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T11:48:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T11:54:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/be8492a9d81d8eab791ba4ee31981ebce934a6858ea79529aee312d9b2381ac33ef1174435adc4975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:48:58 - 11:54:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣電力股份有限公司、台灣自來水股份有限公司。(詢答)） |
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賴士葆 |
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台電最佳預算做一個中央報告要一千億嘛吼是那還有在我們立法院還有另外一個一千億增資一千億你知道嗎?嗯?增資還有一千億你知道嗎?沒有增資一千億有啦兩個一千億的拜託 |
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還是補助一千億?那就等於兩個一千億我就跟你講兩個一千億兩個一千億不是只有一千億如果你做了專案報告最後立法院不買單你怎麼辦?彼此摸一摸就這樣子?漲電價還是什麼的?你怎麼辦?我們就是在財務上面去努力嘛就是去借錢啊什麼借錢?發公司債 |
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發公司債? |
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都可以阿!我想台股的手段有很多種嘛!比如說? |
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93.815 |
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比如說就是跟銀行債繼續借阿!你現在借多少? |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
93.815 |
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97.317 |
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現在借多少?就剛才我需要的這個兩千億就是來補阿! |
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99.786 |
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我們立法院就不應該給你過啦 這2000億不會給你過你有辦法去借錢呢 為什麼給你過 對不對你講得不清楚 而且你一副就是無所謂的樣子 你就無所謂我們沒有無所謂 我們也一直在跟委員溝通就是說請大院能夠同意我們這一個2000億是要來彌補過去 因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
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民生的這個成本高於我的售價所以這一部分我們是在明明的用沒有看到你的努力阿你們用比較貴的生產成本的電源這個再生能源阿也是10%而已阿便宜的核電硬不要用大家沒有看到你這個有誠意你說我窮其一切努力沒有辦法啦跟立法院有錢立法院伯有第二句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
154.699 |
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發言委員 |
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173.15 |
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我們是在解決目前的問題我們會用綠電是現在我們用電戶它需要綠電至於您剛剛所垂詢的這個核電的部分它也占我們一部分的這個責任現在沒有了現在是非核現在請問你知道核三廠的二號機大修現在是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
198.116 |
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224.437 |
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現在這個時候是非核但是我們虧損的時候造成虧損的時候那個時候核電是在運作的那我們增加的部分是綠電綠電是市場上需要的所以我必須要滿足市場的需求所以我們要增加綠電這個跟能源政策我相信每一個人的概念也不太一樣好 那我再問你因為我時間快到了 |
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你的合適兩千半百多億怎麼處理?合適兩千半百多億怎麼處理?我們按照計劃去執行什麼叫按照計劃?你要講具體的?什麼叫按照計劃?聽不懂?那我請台電的這個董事長給你報告喔!可以!部長這要知道這麼重要的事情,你還給人家聽你說,你還不抱歉?沒中捏! |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
247.25 |
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271.926 |
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報告委員因為那個核四部分還有資產資產我們現在有多少資產不要用了那個電力設備包括電力設備其實還有其他的用途可以做規用請教部長啦部長給你一個你喜歡天網行工我給你一個天網行工我做球給你啦核四廠有沒有可能增加他的一個價值所以賣給需要的廠商可以嗎有沒有可能賣給人家這些都有可能啦有沒有開始在接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
277.95 |
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有沒有開始在接觸我們希望把價值升高把他的這個這個沒有用的提早解決2800億如果按照相關的會計準則他不等於零年金不等於幾十億而已啦想辦法讓他產生價值你的2000億不要跟立法院拿的不要跟立法院去拿的想法跟你是一樣的想辦法做到好不好好謝謝 |
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306.127 |
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謝謝委員 |
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2024-11-20T11:48:58+08:00 |
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1 |
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謝謝主席，有請經濟部的郭部長。 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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請經濟部郭部長。 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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1 |
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委員好。你好。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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昨天在立法院，關於台電追加預算，有一個專案報告，要1,000億嘛？是。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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在我們立法院還有另外一個1,000億，增資1,000億，你知道嗎？ |
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0.909 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:49:40.380000+08:00 |
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還有增資1,000億，你知道嗎？ |
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0.7 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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明年度的增資。 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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沒有增資1,000億。有啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:49:40.720000+08:00 |
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2個1,000億，拜託！ |
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郭部長智輝 |
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還是補助1,000億。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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就等於2個1,000億啊。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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我就跟你講，2個1,000億，是2個1,000億，不是只有1,000億。 |
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如果你做了專案報告，最後立法院不買單，你怎麼辦？ |
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鼻子摸一摸，就這樣子？ |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-20T11:50:01.010000+08:00 |
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1 |
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也不會啦。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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漲電價，還是怎麼樣？ |
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0.75 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你怎麼辦？ |
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1 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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我們就是在財務上面去努力嘛。 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-20T11:50:03.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:04.073000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
就是去借錢啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:04.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:04.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
怎麼借錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:04.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:04.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
發公司債？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:22.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:22.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
都可以啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:22.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:24.139500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
怎麼借錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:24.139500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:25.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
你告訴我怎麼借錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:25.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:26.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
財務的手段有很多種。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:27.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:28.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
比如說？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:28.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:30.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
比如說，就是跟銀行再繼續借啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:30.914000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:31.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
你現在借多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:31.815000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:32.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
現在借多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:33.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:35.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我需要2,000億，就是來補啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:37.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:43.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
衝著你這句話，部長啊，我們立法院就不應該給你過啦，這2,000億不會給你過。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:43.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:44.969000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
你有辦法去借錢啊，為什麼給你過？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:44.969000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:46.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:46.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:51.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
你講的也不清楚，而且你就是一副無所謂的樣子，你就無所謂。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:51.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:55.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
我沒有無所謂，我們也一直在跟委員溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:55.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-11-20T11:50:56.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
溝不通啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-11-20T11:50:55.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:08.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
就是說，請大院能夠同意，我們這一個2,000億，是要來彌補過去因為民生的成本高於我的售價，所以這一部分我們是彌補用的。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:08.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:08.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
沒有看到你的努力啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:09.560000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:14.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你們用比較貴的生產成本的電源，再生能源也是只有10%而已，便宜的核電硬是不要用，大家沒有看到你的理由有成立，如果你窮極一切努力，沒有辦法了，跟立法院要錢，立法院不會有第二句話，結果現在不是，你擺著便宜的不用，然後偏偏用貴的，然後說要錢，當然不給啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.578 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:14.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:20.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
立法院當然不給。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:20.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:26.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
加上你今天這樣的回答，說立法院不給，你就去借，那當然不給啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:26.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:32.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
很簡單，就不要給啊，就不要給啊，你去借錢好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:32.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:55.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
報告委員，我們是在解決目前的問題。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:55.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-11-20T11:51:58.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
我們會用綠電，是現在我們的用電戶需要綠電。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-11-20T11:51:58.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:06.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
至於您剛才所垂詢的核電的部分，也占我們一部分的電…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:06.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:07.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
現在沒有了，現在是非核。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:07.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:16.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
你知道核三廠的2號機大修，現在是沒有，現在這個時候是非核。是啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:17.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:40.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
但是我們造成虧損的時候，那個時候核電是在運作的，我們增加的部分是綠電，綠電是市場需要的，我必須要滿足市場的需求，所以我們要增加綠電，這個跟能源政策，我相信每一個人觀點也不太一樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:40.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:41.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
你沒有回答我的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:40.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
好，那我再問你，因為我時間快到了，你的核四的兩千八百多億怎麼處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
核四的兩千八百多億怎麼處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
我們就按照計畫去執行。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
什麼叫按照計畫？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:43.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
你要講具體的，什麼叫按照計畫？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
聽不懂。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.598000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
那我請台電董事長跟你報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
好，可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:44.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-11-20T11:52:45.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
你當部長要知道，這麼重要的事情，你要講，你卻叫人替你講，你難道不會不好意思嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-11-20T11:52:45.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-11-20T11:53:05.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
你是部長欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-11-20T11:53:05.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-11-20T11:53:08.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
報告委員，因為核四還有資產，我們現在…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-11-20T11:53:08.632000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-11-20T11:53:09.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
有多少資產？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-11-20T11:53:09.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-11-20T11:53:10.494000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你們不要用了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-11-20T11:53:12.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-11-20T11:53:16.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
包括電力設備，其實還有其他的用途可以規劃。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-11-20T11:53:16.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-11-20T11:53:27.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
那我請教部長，部長，你喜歡天馬行空，我給你一個天馬行空，我做球給你，核四廠有沒有可能增加價值，賣給需要的廠商？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-11-20T11:53:27.845000+08:00 |
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可以嗎？ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:27.965000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:28.926000+08:00 |
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有沒有可能賣給人家？ |
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1 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:28.986000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:29.366000+08:00 |
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這些都有可能啦，都有可能。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:29.366000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:30.366000+08:00 |
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有沒有可能？ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:29.386000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:29.926000+08:00 |
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有沒有開始在接觸？ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:35.950000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:37.911000+08:00 |
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有沒有開始在接觸？ |
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1 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:37.911000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:46.794000+08:00 |
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我們希望把價值升高，把它沒有用的部分提早解決。 |
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0.857 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:46.794000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:52.316000+08:00 |
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兩千八百多億，如果按照相關的會計準則，它不等於零也幾乎等於幾十億而已啦。 |
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0.727 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:52.976000+08:00 |
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想辦法讓它產生價值，你的2,000億不要跟立法院拿了，不要跟老百姓拿了。 |
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0.759 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-20T11:53:58.898000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:00.399000+08:00 |
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我們的想法跟你是一樣的。 |
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0.818 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:01.059000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:02.340000+08:00 |
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想辦法做到，好不好？ |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:02.420000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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1 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:04.107000+08:00 |
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謝謝，謝謝委員。謝謝。 |
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0.5 |
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主席 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:04.627000+08:00 |
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1 |
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來，部長回座。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:09.784143+08:00 |
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來，下一位質詢請伍麗華委員。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2024-11-20T11:54:10.084143+08:00 |
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1 |
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我們在呂玉玲委員質詢之後會休息，休息時間我待會再宣布。 |
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賴委員士葆：（11時49分）謝謝主席，有請經濟部的郭部長。 |
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主席：請經濟部郭部長。 |
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郭部長智輝：委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆：你好。昨天在立法院，關於台電追加預算，有一個專案報告，要1,000億嘛？ |
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郭部長智輝：是。 |
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賴委員士葆：在我們立法院還有另外一個1,000億，增資1,000億，你知道嗎？還有增資1,000億，你知道嗎？明年度的增資。 |
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郭部長智輝：沒有增資1,000億。 |
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賴委員士葆：有啦！2個1,000億，拜託！ |
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郭部長智輝：還是補助1,000億。 |
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賴委員士葆：就等於2個1,000億啊。我就跟你講，2個1,000億，是2個1,000億，不是只有1,000億。如果你做了專案報告，最後立法院不買單，你怎麼辦？鼻子摸一摸，就這樣子？ |
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郭部長智輝：也不會啦。 |
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賴委員士葆：漲電價，還是怎麼樣？你怎麼辦？ |
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郭部長智輝：我們就是在財務上面去努力嘛。就是去借錢啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：怎麼借錢？發公司債？ |
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郭部長智輝：都可以啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：怎麼借錢？你告訴我怎麼借錢？ |
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郭部長智輝：財務的手段有很多種。 |
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賴委員士葆：比如說？ |
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郭部長智輝：比如說，就是跟銀行再繼續借啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：你現在借多少？現在借多少？ |
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郭部長智輝：我需要2,000億，就是來補啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：衝著你這句話，部長啊，我們立法院就不應該給你過啦，這2,000億不會給你過。你有辦法去借錢啊，為什麼給你過？對不對？你講的也不清楚，而且你就是一副無所謂的樣子，你就無所謂。 |
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郭部長智輝：我沒有無所謂，我們也一直在跟委員溝通。 |
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賴委員士葆：溝不通啊！ |
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郭部長智輝：就是說，請大院能夠同意，我們這一個2,000億，是要來彌補過去因為民生的成本高於我的售價，所以這一部分我們是彌補用的。 |
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賴委員士葆：沒有看到你的努力啊！你們用比較貴的生產成本的電源，再生能源也是只有10%而已，便宜的核電硬是不要用，大家沒有看到你的理由有成立，如果你窮極一切努力，沒有辦法了，跟立法院要錢，立法院不會有第二句話，結果現在不是，你擺著便宜的不用，然後偏偏用貴的，然後說要錢，當然不給啊！立法院當然不給。加上你今天這樣的回答，說立法院不給，你就去借，那當然不給啊！很簡單，就不要給啊，就不要給啊，你去借錢好了。 |
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郭部長智輝：報告委員，我們是在解決目前的問題。 |
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賴委員士葆：是。 |
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郭部長智輝：我們會用綠電，是現在我們的用電戶需要綠電。至於您剛才所垂詢的核電的部分，也占我們一部分的電…… |
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賴委員士葆：現在沒有了，現在是非核。你知道核三廠的2號機大修，現在是沒有，現在這個時候是非核。 |
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郭部長智輝：是啊。但是我們造成虧損的時候，那個時候核電是在運作的，我們增加的部分是綠電，綠電是市場需要的，我必須要滿足市場的需求，所以我們要增加綠電，這個跟能源政策，我相信每一個人觀點也不太一樣。 |
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賴委員士葆：你沒有回答我的問題。好，那我再問你，因為我時間快到了，你的核四的兩千八百多億怎麼處理？核四的兩千八百多億怎麼處理？ |
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郭部長智輝：我們就按照計畫去執行。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼叫按照計畫？你要講具體的，什麼叫按照計畫？聽不懂。 |
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郭部長智輝：那我請台電董事長跟你報告。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，可以。你當部長要知道，這麼重要的事情，你要講，你卻叫人替你講，你難道不會不好意思嗎？你是部長欸！ |
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曾董事長文生：報告委員，因為核四還有資產，我們現在…… |
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賴委員士葆：有多少資產？你們不要用了啊！ |
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曾董事長文生：包括電力設備，其實還有其他的用途可以規劃。 |
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賴委員士葆：那我請教部長，部長，你喜歡天馬行空，我給你一個天馬行空，我做球給你，核四廠有沒有可能增加價值，賣給需要的廠商？可以嗎？有沒有可能賣給人家？ |
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郭部長智輝：這些都有可能啦，都有可能。 |
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賴委員士葆：有沒有可能？有沒有開始在接觸？有沒有開始在接觸？ |
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郭部長智輝：我們希望把價值升高，把它沒有用的部分提早解決。 |
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賴委員士葆：兩千八百多億，如果按照相關的會計準則，它不等於零也幾乎等於幾十億而已啦。想辦法讓它產生價值，你的2,000億不要跟立法院拿了，不要跟老百姓拿了。 |
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郭部長智輝：我們的想法跟你是一樣的。 |
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賴委員士葆：想辦法做到，好不好？ |
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主席：好，謝謝。 |
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郭部長智輝：謝謝，謝謝委員。 |
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主席：謝謝。來，部長回座。 |
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來，下一位質詢請伍麗華委員。我們在呂玉玲委員質詢之後會休息，休息時間我待會再宣布。 |
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邱志偉 |
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邱議瑩 |
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鄭正鈐 |
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張嘉郡 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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蔡易餘 |
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陳超明 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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審查 114 年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣電力股份有限公
司、台灣自來水股份有限公司（詢答） |
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11310301_00001 |