| IVOD_ID |
157146 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157146 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,15,19,22,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[5] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T11:07:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T11:18:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/be8492a9d81d8eab069d0ac3e9c2b34e1ff0707298ac1983aee312d9b2381ac31563234e73618c5b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:07:50 - 11:18:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、邀請相關部會首長就「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算執行情形及成效」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查行政院函請審議「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案(114年度)」（僅詢答）。
【預算提案截止時間：11月27日（三）中午12時】
【11月20日及21日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我先公布一個因為針對前瞻現在講第5期我們看第4期執行的結果執行率倒數第一名的叫衛福部就到9月底為止執行數除以預算數 |
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你們主計總署、文字遊戲、廚藝、分配事務就隨便講講今年現在已經快11月底了第二名客委會、第三名農業部、第四名國發會、第五名速發部你看衛福部執行率不到55,只有53.3,農業部只有67.9 |
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請邱部長 |
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委員長部長你早最近你很紅啊大家都在罵你啊這個波波的事情啊謝謝我就講一個其實啊波波整個的爭議啊是陳時中核定薛瑞元定案邱太元執行就邱太元爛了 |
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找到一坨什麼啦,這個你有沒有覺得委屈啊?我想政府的政策是延續的,如果需要滾動不修正,我們都會把它做到最好。蛤?現在沒有最好啊,現在人家要上街啊,這個禮拜天要上街啊。我們已經表達最大的誠意了。我跟你講你根本沒有誠意,什麼沒有誠意,你可以看喔。 |
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委員會主席 |
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到偏鄉區、臺灣運營到偏鄉區執業幫助偏鄉的結果你們就用這個砍了來數字會說話第4期106年到110年這個郭沛生90名了第5期只有21名了今年只有3名了部長 |
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白紙黑字啊假借波波要去偏鄉幫波波掀洗白取得執照扼殺了本土牙醫的生路這絕對要受譴責的啦數字會說啊陳時中陳時中核定這裡面我就不要公文我都有啦陳時中核定第4期90名就他核定的90名21名 |
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那這個90名是上一期第二期的時候那是由地方來報上來那地方的需求這次只有報21名怎麼會差距90變21怎麼會差距因為已經我們都是這個計畫這個是在地 |
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二、審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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主席 |
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五十名那個是原來的辦法 那個從十年來一直都是五十名那你就 你看 砍了公費 給波波 這個就是衛福部的妖魔那個沒有關係 因為五十名就是五十名 這個不會變啦 |
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那另外大家擔心的只是偏鄉那個是不是有撥撥我都還可以提你當初就是撥撥的大力推動者你當立委的時候就在推動撥撥開闊門我們當立委都很清楚那個閉門的法案是我前程在未還從頭做到尾把他當閉門法案通過從頭復航到底啊我是貢獻非常大不要誤解我也不要抹黑你這個復航到底啊你要知道我完全沒有復航 |
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你完全 其實我今天來就讓你要有機會講說這裡面是陳時中定下來的 結果你給他濫結果你還把他結合起來了這裡面是陳時中闖的禍 對不對他要讀後勃勃 結果你還幫他這套奇怪的 你還濫起來了你這麼怕他 |
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沒有撥撥,我們,我在講的是偏鄉計畫現在是以第一個一定要有執照第二個是本國醫師,本國醫學院我們現在要用24億就是給撥撥的話怎麼沒有呢24億啊,20歲的預算 |
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現在我們已經公布的政策是完全以就是偏鄉計畫一定要以實﹑因為他50﹑而且限定那55個現在沒有牙醫的鄉鎮然後一定要有一致執照阿這樣子波波去哪裡?波波還是那50﹑去哪裡?去哪裡?50名他們可以實習去哪裡?那實習以後才能夠考第二階段 |
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380.49 |
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因為波波的信用不好已經有醫死人的個案還有一些個案都可以不可以要求醫院公佈他們的波波醫生有幾個可以嗎我想這個就比較複雜因為這牽涉到臺大就願意公佈啊臺大說他一個都沒有柔種公佈他沒有只有一個我在臺大幾十年我最清楚了我們只是臺大 |
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基本上處院議事我們沒有說就是有些地區的當然像美國的哈佛大學、澳洲協力大學我們都說過了台大公佈沒有敢公佈為什麼其他議員不敢公佈樓總你敢公佈啊其他議員為什麼你不敢要求他們公佈為什麼不敢你回答啊你不敢回答啊包庇啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
請教育部長 |
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委員好我看到說現在的教召在政大我的母校我畢業政大研究所我在政大教書教了20年結果怎麼會校園裡面變成一個彈藥庫你的教召放在放在政大欸政大政大我代表我不敢說我代表政大最少但是我是政大校友、政大老師我政大教授出身我強烈抗議啊怎麼教召可以放政大欺騙政大 |
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你到底什麼樣?黨政局要退出校園結果現在把彈藥庫搬到政大這什麼意思啊?你要知道喔部長啊一旦政大你如果常態化什麼意思?他彈藥放政大萬一我們的敵人他攻擊就會攻擊政大喔校園變成一個敵方攻擊的目標你承受得起嗎?部長啊你講一下你講一下問題勒 |
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我請問你事先有沒有跟部長打招呼? |
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539.302 |
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請問你知道駕照以前在哪裡嗎? |
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教昭以前在哪裡?我想教昭在過去有很多的公共空間都在經營比較多啦沒有我跟委員報告我其實也看過在運動場這個各縣市的運動場這個也曾經那當然有一些校園裡邊他是不是有一些地形地物上他們需要特別使用到這個地形地物我想 |
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政大律師還不那麼記得?所以你跟我回答就是你根本事情不知道政大當然也不知道結果就大喇喇的開進去政大校園 |
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我講大學的治理這個部分可能委員的這個信息裡邊我想我們事後再來瞭解應該基本上一定會這個事先這個請求這個學校的一些支持怎麼會這樣一步步的點點讓部隊開進去這個大學校園裡面黨政經推出校園都說假的 |
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沒有我想跟委員講這跟黨政經退出效應應該是關...沒有關聯啊他們要在裡面一個禮拜勒 |
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在那個原創大樓那裡就在校園裡面就在裡面就看到阿兵哥跟委員報告因為我本身也是政大的校友所以政大的許多地形地物他可能有許多這個這個演練上的一些需求我相信你我當部長你可以接受我不能接受啦部長真的我跟委員報告我相信這個在大學是你寫一個評估報告給我好嗎我是我們來了解跟委員做報告 |
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謝謝賴委員、副長。謝謝副長。是不是有彈藥庫進校園的事情注意一下。謝謝。接著我們請黃孟凱委員 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:07:51.495000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:07:54.156000+08:00 |
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我先公布，因為針對前瞻現在講第5期，我們看第4期執行的結果，執行率倒數第一名的叫衛福部，就是到9月底為止，執行數除以預算數，你們主計總處文字遊戲什麼除以什麼分配數，那個就隨便講講，現在已經11月、快11月底了，第二名客委會，第三名農業部，第四名國發會，第五名數發部，你看衛福部執行率不到55%，只有53.3%，農業部只有67.9%，都低於七成，數發部只有70.2%，勉強！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:37+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:38.527667+08:00 |
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這幾個單位事後是不是給我們聯席委員會一個報告，為什麼執行率這麼低？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:38.527667+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:40.055333+08:00 |
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你不要跟我講什麼分配數，不要講這個，我就講預算數，因為也快結束了。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:40.055333+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:41.583000+08:00 |
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我就針對衛福部，請部長來。 |
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主席 |
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2024-11-20T11:08:41.583000+08:00 |
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請邱部長。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:17.645000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:18.725000+08:00 |
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委員早。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:18.725000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:19.065000+08:00 |
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部長你早。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:20.026000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:27.588000+08:00 |
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最近你很紅，大家都在罵你波波的事情。謝謝。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:27.588000+08:00 |
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我就講一個，其實波波整個的爭議是陳時中核定，薛瑞元定案，邱泰源執行，結果邱泰源攬了，找到一坨什麼啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.841 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:46.741000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-11-20T11:09:47.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
你有沒有覺得委屈啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:48.843000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:52.805000+08:00 |
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我想政府的政策是延續的，如果需要滾動式修正…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:52.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
1 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:53.805000+08:00 |
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你有沒有覺得委屈？ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:53.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
1 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:54.805000+08:00 |
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我問你，你有沒有覺得委屈？ |
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0 |
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邱部長泰源 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:53.525000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:54.666000+08:00 |
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我們都會把它做到最好。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:55.486000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:09:56.387000+08:00 |
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現在沒有最好啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-11-20T11:09:56.607000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-11-20T11:10:00.549000+08:00 |
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現在人家要上街啊，這個禮拜天要上街啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:01.030000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:02.531000+08:00 |
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我們已經表達最大的誠意了。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-11-20T11:10:03.051000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:05.032000+08:00 |
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我跟你講，你根本沒有誠意，什麼有誠意？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-11-20T11:10:05.032000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:32.148000+08:00 |
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你可以看喔，最可惡的地方在哪裡，衛福部陳時中最可惡的地方在哪裡，為了這些波波的醫學生，背後他的父母都是有頭有臉的大醫生啦，背景、background都很雄厚啦！ |
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0.068 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:32.148000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:38.093000+08:00 |
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砍了公費生給波波生，這是要接受天譴的，公費生都是給那些比較辛苦到偏鄉去的，他願意到偏鄉去執業、幫助偏鄉的，結果你們砍了這個。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:38.173000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:55.377000+08:00 |
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來，數字會說話，第四期，106年到110年公費生90名，結果第五期只有21名，今年只有3名了，部長，白紙黑字啊！ |
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0.838 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:10:56.258000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:15.848000+08:00 |
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假借波波要去偏鄉，幫波波先洗白取得執照，扼殺了本土牙醫的生路，這絕對要受譴責的啦，數字會說話，陳時中核定的，這裡面我就不要……公文我都有啦！ |
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0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:16.928000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:20.410000+08:00 |
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陳時中核定第四期90名，這就是他核定的，第五期21名…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:20.410000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:22.411000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我可不可以說明一下？ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:22.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:24.412000+08:00 |
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好，你說明一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:24.412000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:32.619000+08:00 |
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這個90名是上一期第二期的時候，那是由地方報上來，地方的需求這次只有報21名。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:32.899000+08:00 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:33.359000+08:00 |
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怎麼會差這麼多？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:35.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-11-20T11:11:35.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
90名變21名，怎麼會差這麼多？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:35.521000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-20T11:11:39.492636+08:00 |
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因為這個是在地跟離島的計畫，所以是地方報上來的，可能地方覺得他們10年後……因為這些人10年後、11年以後才會進入服務。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.146 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:39.492636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-11-20T11:11:43.464273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
等一下請教育部長一起來好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.077 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:43.464273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-11-20T11:11:47.435909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
教育部鄭部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:47.435909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-11-20T11:11:51.407545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
所以到11年後他們預計已經……就好像現在金門大概有100位醫師回不去，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:51.407545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-11-20T11:11:55.379182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
所以訓練太多也是一個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:55.379182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-11-20T11:11:59.350818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
為什麼要給波波呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-11-20T11:11:59.350818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:03.322455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
為什麼要給波波呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:03.322455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:07.294091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
你說地方不要了，為什麼給波波？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:07.294091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:11.265727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
我們沒有給波波，我要講清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:11.265727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:15.237364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你給波波啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:15.237364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:19.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
波波還50名耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:19.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:23.994000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
50名那是原來的辦法，10年來一直都是50名。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:24.634000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:26.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
你看你砍了公費給波波，這就是衛福部的陽謀。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:27.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:27.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
那個沒有關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:27.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:28.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
怎麼會沒有關係？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:27.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:28.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
那個50個就是50個，這個不會變啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:35.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:37.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
另外大家擔心的只是偏鄉是不是有波波…… |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:37.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:44.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
我都還不願意提你當初就是波波的大力推動者，你當立委的時候就要推動波波、開後門。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:44.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:52.367000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
沒有、沒有，我們當立委都很清楚，那個閉門的法案是我全程在衛環從頭坐到尾，把它當閉門法案通過的…… |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:52.367000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:53.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
從頭護航到底啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:54.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:56.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
所以我是貢獻非常大，不要誤解我，也不要抹黑。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:56.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:58.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你是護航到底啊，你要知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-11-20T11:12:58.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-11-20T11:12:58.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
我完全沒有護航。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:00.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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2024-11-20T11:13:13.001000+08:00 |
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其實我今天來就是讓你有機會講說這裡面是陳時中定下來的，結果你還把它接起來了，這裡面是陳時中闖的禍，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:13.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:16.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
他要獨厚波波，結果你還幫他解套，奇怪耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:17.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:17.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
你還整個攬起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:22.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:25.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
沒有，我們的偏鄉計畫現在沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:25.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:27.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
你這麼怕他啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:27.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:30.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
沒有波波，我再講一次，偏鄉計畫現在第一個一定要有執照，第二個是要由本國醫學院畢業。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.486 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:30.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:31.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
你們現在要用24億就是給波波的啊，怎麼沒有呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:31.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:31.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
24億啊，24億的預算…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:38.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:52.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
現在我們已經公布的政策，就是偏鄉計畫一定要有醫師，而且限定那55個現在沒有牙醫的鄉鎮，然後一定要有醫師執照。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:53.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:54.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
這樣波波去哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:54.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:55.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
波波去哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:55.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:56.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
你告訴我。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:54.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:58.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
波波還是原來的那50名，他們可以實習。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:58.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-11-20T11:13:59.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
去哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:59.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:00.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
去哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-11-20T11:13:59.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:01.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
實習以後才能夠考第二階段，第二階段考完以後…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:01.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:02.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
可不可以叫…… |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:02.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:03.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
這是以前就留下來的…… |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:01.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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2024-11-20T11:14:05.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
因為波波的信用不好，已經有醫死人的個案，可不可以要求醫院公布他們的波波醫師有幾個，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:05.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:06.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我想這個就比較複雜，因為這牽涉到…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:06.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:08.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
臺大就願意公布啊，臺大說它一個都沒有，榮總公布它沒有，只有一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:08.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:35.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我在臺大幾十年，我最清楚了，基本上住院醫師我們沒有收有些地區的…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:35.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:36.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
對啊，臺大公布它沒有，一個都沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:36.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:40.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
像美國的哈佛大學、澳洲雪梨大學，我們都收過。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:40.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:43.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
臺大公布沒有，它敢公布，為什麼其他醫院不敢公布？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:45.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:47.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
榮總也敢公布啊，其他醫院為什麼你不敢要求他們公布？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:48.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:49.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
為什麼不敢？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:50.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:52.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
你回答啊，你不敢回答啊，包庇啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:52.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:53.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
就這樣子啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:53.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:54.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
這個有關醫師的信任，我想賴委員非常清楚…… |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:54.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:55.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
公布有什麼關係，給大家看啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
邱部長泰源 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:55.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:56.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
你的家族也都有很多優秀的醫師，我們從醫學院畢業以後，還要經過很多、很多的訓練才能真正出來工作，所以它跟學歷不百分之百那麼有關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:56.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:57.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
好啦，明天有時間再問你。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:57.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:58.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
來，教育部的鄭部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2024-11-20T11:14:54.689000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2024-11-20T11:14:54.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
請鄭部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:17.662000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:17.902000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:18.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:30.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
部長，我看到現在的教召在政大，我的母校，我畢業於政大研究所，我在政大教書教了20年，結果怎麼會校園裡面變成一個彈藥庫？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:30.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:43.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
你把教召放在政大，我不敢說我代表政大，但是我是政大校友、政大老師，我是政大教授出身，我強烈抗議啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:44.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:45.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
怎麼教召可以放政大？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:45.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:46.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
欺負政大啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:47.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:49.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
你到底是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:49.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2024-11-20T11:15:53.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
黨政軍都退出校園，結果現在把彈藥庫搬到政大，這什麼意思啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2024-11-20T11:15:54.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:00.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
你要知道，部長，一旦進政大，你如果常態化，什麼意思？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:01.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:05.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
彈藥放政大，萬一我們的敵人要攻擊，就會攻擊政大喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:06.589000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:11.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
校園變成一個敵方攻擊的目標，你承受得起嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:11.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:12.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
部長，你說一下，說來聽聽吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:12.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:13.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
我想這是一個教育召集嘛…… |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:13.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:14.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
對啊，它彈藥進去了啊，它要城鄉戰啊，準備要全民皆兵啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:14.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:15.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
這是不是容我會後了解…… |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:15.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:16.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
現在你要講一下你可不可以接受，你告訴我，事先有沒有跟你打招呼？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.179 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:16.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:17.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:17.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:18.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
我想大學自主、大學治理這個部分我們是尊重學校，學校的自由。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:15.660000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:16.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
我請問你，他們事先有沒有跟部長打招呼？ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:16.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:22.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
你回答我，我時間到了，你回答我，有沒有跟你打招呼？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:22.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:29.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
這個訊息我個人並沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:29.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:35.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
你不知道啊，校方也不知道啊，可惡在這裡啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:35.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:41.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
黨政軍退出媒體，結果大剌剌的部隊開進去政大，什麼意思啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:41.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:47.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
欺負政大啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2024-11-20T11:16:47.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2024-11-20T11:16:49.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
請問你知道教召以前在哪裡嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:09.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:10.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
教召以前在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:10.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:14.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
我想教召在過去有很多的公共空間…… |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:14.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:14.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
都在軍營比較多啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:15.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:23.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
沒有，跟委員報告，我其實也看過在運動場，各縣市的運動場也曾經…… |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:23.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:24.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
對嘛，運動場啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:23.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:30.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
當然校園裡邊是不是有一些地形、地物上的部分，他們需要特別使用到這樣的地形、地物…… |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:30.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:32.706500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
哪有這麼奇怪的，政大離指揮部這麼近…… |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:32.706500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:34.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
我想這個部分容我事後了解再跟委員報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.111 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:34.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:44.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
所以你的回答就是你根本事先不知道，政大當然也不知道，結果就大剌剌地開進去政大校園，不可以這樣…… |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.767 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2024-11-20T11:17:46.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2024-11-20T11:17:56.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
我想大學治理的部分，委員的相關訊息我們事後再來了解，基本上一定會事先尋求學校的一些支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.829 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-20T11:17:57.150000+08:00 |
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怎麼會教育部都「惦惦」，讓部隊開進去大學校園裡面，黨政軍退出校園都說假的喔？ |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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沒有，我想跟委員講這跟黨政軍退出校園應該是沒有關聯啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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怎麼會沒有關聯，他們要在裡面一個禮拜，在研創大樓那裡，這在校園裡面耶！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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就在裡面就看到阿兵哥。 |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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跟委員報告，因為我本身也是政大的校友，所以政大的許多地形、地物，他可能有許多相關演練上的一些需求，我相信政大…… |
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賴委員士葆 |
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這很奇怪啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你因為要當部長，你可以接受，我不能接受啦！ |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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我跟委員報告，我相信這個在大學治理裡面…… |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你寫一個評估報告給我好嗎？ |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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事後我們來了解，再跟委員做報告。 |
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主席 |
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謝謝賴委員，謝謝部長，是不是有彈藥庫進校園的事情，這個要注意一下，謝謝。 |
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主席 |
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接著我們請洪孟楷委員。 |
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賴委員士葆：（11時7分）謝謝主席。我先公布，因為針對前瞻現在講第5期，我們看第4期執行的結果，執行率倒數第一名的叫衛福部，就是到9月底為止，執行數除以預算數，你們主計總處文字遊戲什麼除以什麼分配數，那個就隨便講講，現在已經11月、快11月底了，第二名客委會，第三名農業部，第四名國發會，第五名數發部，你看衛福部執行率不到55%，只有53.3%，農業部只有67.9%，都低於七成，數發部只有70.2%，勉強！這幾個單位事後是不是給我們聯席委員會一個報告，為什麼執行率這麼低？你不要跟我講什麼分配數，不要講這個，我就講預算數，因為也快結束了。我就針對衛福部，請部長來。 |
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主席：請邱部長。 |
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邱部長泰源：委員早。 |
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賴委員士葆：部長你早。最近你很紅，大家都在罵你波波的事情。 |
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邱部長泰源：謝謝。 |
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賴委員士葆：我就講一個，其實波波整個的爭議是陳時中核定，薛瑞元定案，邱泰源執行，結果邱泰源攬了，找到一坨什麼啦！你有沒有覺得委屈啊？ |
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邱部長泰源：我想政府的政策是延續的，如果需要滾動式修正…… |
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賴委員士葆：你有沒有覺得委屈？我問你，你有沒有覺得委屈？ |
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邱部長泰源：我們都會把它做到最好。 |
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賴委員士葆：現在沒有最好啊！現在人家要上街啊，這個禮拜天要上街啊！ |
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邱部長泰源：我們已經表達最大的誠意了。 |
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賴委員士葆：我跟你講，你根本沒有誠意，什麼有誠意？你可以看喔，最可惡的地方在哪裡，衛福部陳時中最可惡的地方在哪裡，為了這些波波的醫學生，背後他的父母都是有頭有臉的大醫生啦，背景、background都很雄厚啦！砍了公費生給波波生，這是要接受天譴的，公費生都是給那些比較辛苦到偏鄉去的，他願意到偏鄉去執業、幫助偏鄉的，結果你們砍了這個。來，數字會說話，第四期，106年到110年公費生90名，結果第五期只有21名，今年只有3名了，部長，白紙黑字啊！假借波波要去偏鄉，幫波波先洗白取得執照，扼殺了本土牙醫的生路，這絕對要受譴責的啦，數字會說話，陳時中核定的，這裡面我就不要……公文我都有啦！陳時中核定第四期90名，這就是他核定的，第五期21名…… |
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邱部長泰源：報告委員，我可不可以說明一下？ |
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賴委員士葆：好，你說明一下。 |
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邱部長泰源：這個90名是上一期第二期的時候，那是由地方報上來，地方的需求這次只有報21名。 |
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賴委員士葆：怎麼會差這麼多？90名變21名，怎麼會差這麼多？ |
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邱部長泰源：因為這個是在地跟離島的計畫，所以是地方報上來的，可能地方覺得他們10年後……因為這些人10年後、11年以後才會進入服務。 |
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賴委員士葆：等一下請教育部長一起來好嗎？ |
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主席：教育部鄭部長。 |
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邱部長泰源：所以到11年後他們預計已經……就好像現在金門大概有100位醫師回不去，你知道嗎？所以訓練太多也是一個問題。 |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼要給波波呢？為什麼要給波波呢？你說地方不要了，為什麼給波波？ |
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邱部長泰源：我們沒有給波波，我要講清楚。 |
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賴委員士葆：你給波波啊！波波還50名耶！ |
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邱部長泰源：50名那是原來的辦法，10年來一直都是50名。 |
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賴委員士葆：你看你砍了公費給波波，這就是衛福部的陽謀。 |
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邱部長泰源：那個沒有關係。 |
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賴委員士葆：怎麼會沒有關係？ |
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邱部長泰源：那個50個就是50個，這個不會變啦。另外大家擔心的只是偏鄉是不是有波波…… |
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賴委員士葆：我都還不願意提你當初就是波波的大力推動者，你當立委的時候就要推動波波、開後門。 |
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邱部長泰源：沒有、沒有，我們當立委都很清楚，那個閉門的法案是我全程在衛環從頭坐到尾，把它當閉門法案通過的…… |
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賴委員士葆：從頭護航到底啊！ |
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邱部長泰源：所以我是貢獻非常大，不要誤解我，也不要抹黑。 |
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賴委員士葆：你是護航到底啊，你要知道。 |
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邱部長泰源：我完全沒有護航。 |
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賴委員士葆：其實我今天來就是讓你有機會講說這裡面是陳時中定下來的，結果你還把它接起來了，這裡面是陳時中闖的禍，對不對？他要獨厚波波，結果你還幫他解套，奇怪耶！你還整個攬起來。 |
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邱部長泰源：沒有，我們的偏鄉計畫現在沒有…… |
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賴委員士葆：你這麼怕他啊？ |
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邱部長泰源：沒有波波，我再講一次，偏鄉計畫現在第一個一定要有執照，第二個是要由本國醫學院畢業。 |
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賴委員士葆：你們現在要用24億就是給波波的啊，怎麼沒有呢？24億啊，24億的預算…… |
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邱部長泰源：現在我們已經公布的政策，就是偏鄉計畫一定要有醫師，而且限定那55個現在沒有牙醫的鄉鎮，然後一定要有醫師執照。 |
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賴委員士葆：這樣波波去哪裡？波波去哪裡？你告訴我。 |
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邱部長泰源：波波還是原來的那50名，他們可以實習。 |
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賴委員士葆：去哪裡？去哪裡？ |
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邱部長泰源：實習以後才能夠考第二階段，第二階段考完以後…… |
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賴委員士葆：可不可以叫…… |
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邱部長泰源：這是以前就留下來的…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為波波的信用不好，已經有醫死人的個案，可不可以要求醫院公布他們的波波醫師有幾個，可以嗎？ |
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邱部長泰源：我想這個就比較複雜，因為這牽涉到…… |
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賴委員士葆：臺大就願意公布啊，臺大說它一個都沒有，榮總公布它沒有，只有一個。 |
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邱部長泰源：我在臺大幾十年，我最清楚了，基本上住院醫師我們沒有收有些地區的…… |
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賴委員士葆：對啊，臺大公布它沒有，一個都沒有。 |
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邱部長泰源：像美國的哈佛大學、澳洲雪梨大學，我們都收過。 |
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賴委員士葆：臺大公布沒有，它敢公布，為什麼其他醫院不敢公布？榮總也敢公布啊，其他醫院為什麼你不敢要求他們公布？為什麼不敢？你回答啊，你不敢回答啊，包庇啊！就這樣子啊！ |
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邱部長泰源：這個有關醫師的信任，我想賴委員非常清楚…… |
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賴委員士葆：公布有什麼關係，給大家看啊！ |
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邱部長泰源：你的家族也都有很多優秀的醫師，我們從醫學院畢業以後，還要經過很多、很多的訓練才能真正出來工作，所以它跟學歷不百分之百那麼有關係。 |
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賴委員士葆：好啦，明天有時間再問你。來，教育部的鄭部長。 |
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主席：請鄭部長。 |
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鄭部長英耀：委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆：部長，我看到現在的教召在政大，我的母校，我畢業於政大研究所，我在政大教書教了20年，結果怎麼會校園裡面變成一個彈藥庫？你把教召放在政大，我不敢說我代表政大，但是我是政大校友、政大老師，我是政大教授出身，我強烈抗議啊！怎麼教召可以放政大？欺負政大啊！你到底是怎麼樣？黨政軍都退出校園，結果現在把彈藥庫搬到政大，這什麼意思啊？你要知道，部長，一旦進政大，你如果常態化，什麼意思？彈藥放政大，萬一我們的敵人要攻擊，就會攻擊政大喔！校園變成一個敵方攻擊的目標，你承受得起嗎？部長，你說一下，說來聽聽吧！ |
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鄭部長英耀：我想這是一個教育召集嘛…… |
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賴委員士葆：對啊，它彈藥進去了啊，它要城鄉戰啊，準備要全民皆兵啊！ |
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鄭部長英耀：這是不是容我會後了解…… |
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賴委員士葆：現在你要講一下你可不可以接受，你告訴我，事先有沒有跟你打招呼？有沒有？ |
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鄭部長英耀：我想大學自主、大學治理這個部分我們是尊重學校，學校的自由。 |
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賴委員士葆：我請問你，他們事先有沒有跟部長打招呼？你回答我，我時間到了，你回答我，有沒有跟你打招呼？ |
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鄭部長英耀：這個訊息我個人並沒有…… |
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賴委員士葆：你不知道啊，校方也不知道啊，可惡在這裡啊！黨政軍退出媒體，結果大剌剌的部隊開進去政大，什麼意思啊？欺負政大啊！請問你知道教召以前在哪裡嗎？教召以前在哪裡？ |
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鄭部長英耀：我想教召在過去有很多的公共空間…… |
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賴委員士葆：都在軍營比較多啦！ |
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鄭部長英耀：沒有，跟委員報告，我其實也看過在運動場，各縣市的運動場也曾經…… |
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賴委員士葆：對嘛，運動場啊。 |
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鄭部長英耀：當然校園裡邊是不是有一些地形、地物上的部分，他們需要特別使用到這樣的地形、地物…… |
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賴委員士葆：哪有這麼奇怪的，政大離指揮部這麼近…… |
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鄭部長英耀：我想這個部分容我事後了解再跟委員報告。 |
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賴委員士葆：所以你的回答就是你根本事先不知道，政大當然也不知道，結果就大剌剌地開進去政大校園，不可以這樣…… |
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鄭部長英耀：我想大學治理的部分，委員的相關訊息我們事後再來了解，基本上一定會事先尋求學校的一些支持。 |
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賴委員士葆：怎麼會教育部都「惦惦」，讓部隊開進去大學校園裡面，黨政軍退出校園都說假的喔？ |
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鄭部長英耀：沒有，我想跟委員講這跟黨政軍退出校園應該是沒有關聯啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：怎麼會沒有關聯，他們要在裡面一個禮拜，在研創大樓那裡，這在校園裡面耶！就在裡面就看到阿兵哥。 |
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鄭部長英耀：跟委員報告，因為我本身也是政大的校友，所以政大的許多地形、地物，他可能有許多相關演練上的一些需求，我相信政大…… |
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賴委員士葆：這很奇怪啦！你因為要當部長，你可以接受，我不能接受啦！ |
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鄭部長英耀：我跟委員報告，我相信這個在大學治理裡面…… |
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賴委員士葆：你寫一個評估報告給我好嗎？ |
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鄭部長英耀：事後我們來了解，再跟委員做報告。 |
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主席：謝謝賴委員，謝謝部長，是不是有彈藥庫進校園的事情，這個要注意一下，謝謝。 |
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接著我們請洪孟楷委員。 |
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聯席會議-11-2-20,15,19,22,23,26-1 |
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陳玉珍 |
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林德福 |
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吳秉叡 |
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李坤城 |
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陳亭妃 |
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賴瑞隆 |
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林宜瑾 |
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郭國文 |
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賴惠員 |
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賴士葆 |
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洪孟楷 |
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顏寬恒 |
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萬美玲 |
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王世堅 |
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蘇巧慧 |
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王美惠 |
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張雅琳 |
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柯志恩 |
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王鴻薇 |
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陳超明 |
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陳菁徽 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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李昆澤 |
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黃秀芳 |
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吳沛憶 |
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林月琴 |
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郭昱晴 |
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陳秀寳 |
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陳培瑜 |
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李柏毅 |
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張智倫 |
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李彥秀 |
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黃健豪 |
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徐富癸 |
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張宏陸 |
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謝衣鳯 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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劉建國 |
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范雲 |
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游顥 |
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林倩綺 |
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王正旭 |
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何欣純 |
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羅明才 |
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鄭正鈐 |
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王育敏 |
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葛如鈞 |
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邱志偉 |
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羅廷瑋 |
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盧縣一 |
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吳春城 |
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黃珊珊 |
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林俊憲 |
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黃國昌 |
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陳昭姿 |
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蔡其昌 |
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張嘉郡 |
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陳素月 |
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邱議瑩 |
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葉元之 |
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邱鎮軍 |
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蔡易餘 |
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2024-11-20 |
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11310301 |
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11310301_00003 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議紀錄 |
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一、邀請相關部會首長就「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算執行情形及成效」進行專
題報告，並備質詢；二、審查行政院函請審議「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第 5 期特別預算案
（114年度）」（僅詢答） |
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11310301_00002 |