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| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:49 - 10:05:03 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣電力股份有限公司、台灣自來水股份有限公司。(詢答)） |
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委員早安部長早部長我想我們今天討論水跟電那當然還是要來談一下這個水電的供給的問題這個卓院長前幾天有去參加這個自來水節他也特別提到未來會有106億要去補助無自來水地區 |
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那我們也看到在這個前瞻計畫的編列裡頭其實你們現在已經把無自來水地區的這個沿管的費用一般地區從每一戶60萬增加到80萬原住民區域大概也是從60萬增加到100萬 |
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這個看起來這個錢是增加了但是你的160億要做在無自來水地區我們現在的全國的供水率是達到95%剩下的那個5%其實是難度很高如果這麼簡單的話這個5%早就達成了嘛政府每年編了那麼多錢我先講第一件事情我覺得台水公司在過去的幾年其實非常的努力包括我們的降低漏水率的部分 |
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包括這一些自來水沿管的工程的部分這個我必須給予肯定甚至在前兩個颱風的時候我們在六龜有一個工作人員為了去巡視六龜的淨水場差一點被土石流掩埋所以我覺得這個我們應該某個程度上要給台水公司肯定但口頭的肯定是不夠的 |
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所以我非常同意那一天卓院長特別講到的所謂的技術加急這件事情喔技術加急這個事情當然是卓院長現在提出來但是我們現在可能在預算裡頭是看不到的 對不對董事長現在在你們的還是部長您可以回答在預算裡頭現在還是看不到的嘛所以你的技術加急會從什麼時候開始我們現在在演繹中我希望能夠越快越好 |
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希望愈快愈好,但是你現在的預算已經編列完成,已經送到立法院來,所以你最快也是要明年嗎?還是你可以從其他的地方去運資?那個是在我們從技術上面來提升技術上面來提升是怎麼樣提升?技術加急董事長你要回答嗎? |
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跟委員報告我們114年度已經有編用人會議裡面也有一個調新的計畫那院長所以你這個是做在調新計畫裡頭不是另外再編一個所謂的技術加擠這樣的一個項目他整體還是在我們的用人會裡面 |
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好,OK,好,如果是這樣齁,我覺得這個就是我剛剛特別講到的齁,你們的沿管備用的增加,包括這些改善喔,其實我有一個想法啦齁,這個我也曾經跟自來水公司跟水利署也討論過齁,我在這邊也提出來跟部長做參考,就是說 |
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現在自來水未普及的地方大多是在偏鄉在山上在部落所以呢如果你從山下要拉那個自來水管線到山上去你所用的這些費用比如說我現在看到原鄉原鄉 |
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一戶你給他增加到100萬其實還是遠遠不足啦那如果我們能夠在偏遠的山區用簡易自來水但是我要求也拜託自來水公司參與所謂的簡易自來水的建造計畫簡易自來水塔的建造計畫 |
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提升水質現在的簡易自來水塔其實是非常簡單它就是叫簡易真的是非常簡易如果它能夠加入台水的技術把這個簡易自來水塔的淨化水質的技術把它提升讓偏遠的山區的人也能夠享有跟自來水一樣的水質的話那我想其實可以不用花到那麼多錢從山下沿館到山上去部長您同意我的看法嗎 |
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非常同意謝謝委員這個指教我們自來水公司有非常多的這方面的技術所以我們可以完全按照委員的指示這樣方向來努力所以我覺得這個可能讓經濟部從水利署跟自來水公司雙方面甚至跟地方政府因為你們要找設置減水站的地方是要地方政府去做配合所以我希望能夠三方一起合作然後達到 |
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自來水的普及率最少我在偏遠的山區我有減益自來水我的水值其實是還可以達標的我想這個方向我們一起來做努力謝謝委員我們一起努力接下來自來水公司請回接下來我要講到電費的問題部長您有沒有去住官邸 |
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台灣電力股份有限公司：台灣電力股份有限公司：台灣電力股份有限公司：台灣電力股份有限公司： |
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大概兩期到1000度左右你知道你關底的電器是不是都是節電設施不方便回答我告訴你我跟您講其實我一進去就因為我怕開冷氣所以我都吹電風扇我坦白講這個部長 |
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我覺得這個就是台灣的一個問題啦我為什麼會問這個例子行政院長的官邸被修理說這個電費很高後來台電去做了一個調查才發現79%是維安人員使用只有21%是院長的住處使用 |
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卓院長也沒有住在裡面所以那個21%大概也是屬於繳基本電費而已但是有一件事情是你們沒有說的就是在這一些官邸裡頭的電器設備都非常老舊 |
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你比如說台電的董事長你不敢換電器設備但是你又怕被人家罵說你浪費電所以你只好吹冷氣你就過著原始人的生活你只好吹冷氣你的官邸裡頭有8台冷氣機但是你每天吹電扇對不起你每天吹電扇不是吹冷氣你就每天吹電扇 |
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我們的行政院的首長宿舍部長你沒有去住你不知道首長宿舍裡面燈也沒有換不敢換冷氣設備也沒有換都不是節電設備 |
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所以你現在看府院各部會的水電預算都比去年還增加你們的說法當然是說因為過去政府有編列預算直接去補貼現在沒有了回歸各部會自己去付但是其實沒有去做過盤點 |
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如果經濟部能源局去做過一個盤點所有的部會裡頭的設施基本上因為怕被攻擊怕被說浪費所以都是20幾年前的舊電器啊 |
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報告委員,我們現在在執行一個新的叫做深度節能的計畫,ESCO這個計畫,就是針對這一些深度節能計畫是只有執行在你經濟部嗎?還是所有行政院的各部會都有?我們這是全國啦,全國的公務系統,通通在做這個深度節能計畫 |
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那你的深度節電計畫有去做最基本的我想你們的辦公廳社、官社這一些最基本的從最基本的節電計畫開始做現在在進行檢測也就是說先檢查哪邊是老舊的跟他檢查身體一樣 |
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現在開始做檢測我們在跟民眾說你們要節電要換變頻要怎樣電費也要換LED結果政府單位現在開始做檢測 |
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所以我們一直跟民眾說叫人們要換節電設施結果政府單位自己不敢換有啦有在換政府單位現在才在做檢測這實在是很漏氣很漏氣的事情不然的話我是希望你們這個S-code的這個服務是不是能夠加快腳步是的那我覺得今天我的質詢大概行政院長也能夠聽得到啦上次我在這裡罵你行政院長也可以聽得到所以如果是這樣我覺得行政院應該是要帶頭 |
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趕快把這個ESCO的這個服務落實讓各部會都能夠加速的來進行節能的這個計畫跟政策好嗎?是,是,謝謝委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
157103 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157103 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-15 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T09:55:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T10:05:03+08:00 |
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