| IVOD_ID |
156565 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156565 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-06T14:30:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-06T14:35:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:04:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b367300d5b4eae7d087ed57b1ef75041ec98f8113ce54f746385e2ac2d036a8f86cf5dcbc0b7422b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:30:07 - 14:35:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院主計總處首長、勞動部首長、教育部首長、財政部首長就「我國青年低薪成因檢討及因應對策，暨如何促進企業提升青年及基層員工薪資水準」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員就「我國傳統產業及中小企業發展困境探討、因應對策及相關振興方案」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席及各位親信有請國發會的劉竹偉及經濟部的郭部長兩位掌握請 |
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先請教劉主委這個如你所願,川普應該會贏得美國大選你說對台商是大利多你這個講利多是到底是有沒有根據根據什麼根據你的guts feeling就是你直覺還是根據哪些報告有沒有 |
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我跟委員報告根據你我時間很短你趕快簡短講根據什麼他對中國企業徵收60%的稅對台灣要增加10%的稅對我們相差50%的稅那我們最近企業被中國內捲殺到那他的徵稅有助於我們搬轉第二個部分國部長來國部長好那你國部長電子業你是電子業出身的電子業的平均毛利多少 |
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要看哪一個業啊?你的行業!電子業這麼長!你的行業!你的行業!YOU!YOU!YOU!你的!你的!你以前的!從業!從業!從業!從業!半導體!我從業是8%嘛! |
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主席主席主席 |
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你同意嗎?他說對川普當選現在已經差不多當選了,是對台商是大利多嗎?來來來你同意不同意我問你,你同意不同意?你同意不同意?我完全同意,這是商業規則啊 |
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這個我是不懂這個邏輯怎麼了你賺8%給人家課10%你很高興我請問你委員我賺8%跟課10%完全沒有關係那個是在我進到美國的市場他課10%是美國的客戶買他會加10%來跟我買但是我賺的8%是沒有少我們多半是FOB來這個部長經濟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
149.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
178.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
這是你,你看我看過在立法院這麼多年了企業界出身的部長我發現Ranking是非常後面的你大概只有殷總裁一你比那個第一任的企業界出來的林新立啊差有過多他的數字啊問什麼都清晨出處你問什麼你都不清楚比如我來問你一個啊台電有沒有股票上市?蛤?台電有沒有股票上市?沒有啊蛤?沒有啊以前有沒有? |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
179.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
180.166 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
二、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
191.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
217.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
很少 多少 要備起來 拜託我備這個對我的工作沒幫助啊 委員我的腦袋也有限啊 對不對我管山管海 管那麼多你管油 燉 糖水 你基本資料你要備得很清楚啊你要記得很清楚來 我再問你喔 因為我現在就問你說你現在又要跟我們一樣一千億整支你現在已經五千八百億了 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
219.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
233.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
臺電資本額五千八百億歐再加一千就六千八百億歐民股的股權又再稀釋的原來四點多變三點多現在可能第三喔部長啊怎麼辦民股怎麼辦怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
237.529 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
252.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
那個稀釋民股啊也要這個就如果我不是增資就不是稀釋民股啊如果你願意補貼你要補貼他就不會稀釋民股啊你沒有補貼啊你這個政府願意補貼這種所謂的這個支出他當然就不會稀釋民股啊你知不知道這個非利 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
262.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
265.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
你講的菲律賓已經在計畫要蓋大的一個光電廠知不知道菲律賓他會蓋很多大的光電廠你都不知道啊你講光電光電你講剛才委員就吐泥就已經在2.6%在一點點他要蓋一個大電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
281.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
283.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
二、我們海底電線要1500億蓋個電廠1000粒這個叫隨便長講啊部長還是隨便講講部長你的評價很低啦這個部長啊 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:15.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:17.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席及各位先進，有請國發會的劉主委及經濟部的郭部長，兩位長官請。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:17.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:27.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請國發會劉主委、經濟部郭部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:27.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:39.890000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
先請教劉主委，如你所願，川普應該會贏得美國大選，你說對臺商是大利多，你這個講利多到底是有沒有根據啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:39.890000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:39.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
根據什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:39.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:46.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
根據你的gut feeling，就是你的直覺，還是根據哪些報告，有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:47.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:48.157000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
我跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:48.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:51.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
因為我的時間很短，你可不可以簡短講根據什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:51.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:55.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
他對中國企業徵收60%的稅…… |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:55.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-11-06T14:30:57.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
對臺灣是增加10%的稅啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-11-06T14:30:57.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:08.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
對，我們相差50%的稅，我們最近企業被中國內捲殺到，他的徵稅有助於我們翻轉。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:08.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:09.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
你隨便說說啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:08.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:08.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
第二個部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:09.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:16.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
好，請教部長，郭部長，你是電子業出身的，電子業的平均毛利多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:17.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:18.991000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
要看哪一個業啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:19.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:19.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
你的行業。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:19.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:19.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
電子業這麼長，甚至中下游…… |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:19.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:25.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
你的行業，你以前的崇越。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:25.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:26.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
半導體，我崇越是8%嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:26.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:31.379600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
8%，現在我給你課10%，這樣你受得了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:31.379600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:36.578200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
我問你，受得了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:36.578200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:41.776800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
他又不是只有對我課10%，對別人也是10%啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:41.776800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:46.975400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
所以同業競爭沒有問題啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:46.975400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:52.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
你賺8%，你給他課了10%，你心裡沒有個準，所以現在劉主委講的話你同意嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:52.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:57.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
他說川普當選，現在已經差不多當選了，對臺商是大利多嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:57.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:58.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
委員，那10%是美國人的公司在付的。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-11-06T14:31:57.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-11-06T14:31:59.517000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
來啊，你同不同意我問你，你同不同意？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:02.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:02.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
報告委員，我完全同意。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:02.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:03.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
完全同意，多一個川粉啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:03.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:03.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
這是商業規則啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:07.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:08.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我是不懂這個邏輯是什麼啦，你賺8%，給人家課10%，你還很高興，被課得很高興！ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.677 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:08.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:08.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
我請問你…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:08.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:09.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
委員，我賺8%跟課10%完全沒有關係喔，那個是我進到美國的市場，他課10%是美國的客戶買，他會加10%來跟我買啊，但是我賺了8%是沒有少啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
劉主任委員鏡清 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:09.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:10.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們多半是FOB。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:10.122000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:50.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
部長啊，經濟部長，我在立法院這麼多年了，企業界出身的部長，我把你rating是非常後面的，你大概只有贏宗才怡，你比那個第一任企業界出來的林信義，差得有夠多！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.814 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:50.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-11-06T14:32:54.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
他的數字啊，問什麼都清清楚楚，但問你什麼，你都不清楚！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-11-06T14:32:55.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-11-06T14:33:00.191000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
比如我問你一個，台電有沒有股票上市？蛤？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-11-06T14:33:01.331000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-11-06T14:33:02.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
台電有沒有股票上市？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-11-06T14:33:03.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-11-06T14:33:04.532000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
沒有啊。蛤？沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:04.752000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:05.392000+08:00 |
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以前有沒有？ |
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1 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:05.392000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:08.345800+08:00 |
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以前我不清楚啊。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:08.345800+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:11.299600+08:00 |
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喔，不清楚，你都不準備，以前有啦！ |
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0 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:11.299600+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:14.253400+08:00 |
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我為什麼要清楚以前的事呢？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:14.253400+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:17.207200+08:00 |
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當然要，台電！ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:17.207200+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:20.161000+08:00 |
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好，那我再請問你，台電有沒有民股？有。多少？很少。多少？ |
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0.238 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:20.161000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:21.602000+08:00 |
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要背起來啊，拜託！ |
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0.714 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:21.602000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:25.142000+08:00 |
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我背這個對我的工作也沒幫助啊，委員。 |
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0.875 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:25.142000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:26.142000+08:00 |
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什麼叫沒幫助？ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:26.142000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:27.142000+08:00 |
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你不能這樣…… |
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0 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:25.142000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:29.283000+08:00 |
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我的腦袋也有限啊，對不對？ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:29.283000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:30.283000+08:00 |
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這個因為你管油…… |
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0 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:29.283000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:32.023000+08:00 |
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我要管山、管海，管那麼多！ |
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0.9 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:32.364000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:36.724000+08:00 |
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你管油電糖水，基本資料你要背得很清楚啊！ |
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0.889 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:36.724000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:37.724000+08:00 |
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對啊，但這個不是基本資料。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:36.904000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:37.865000+08:00 |
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你要記得很清楚！ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:38.445000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:44.946000+08:00 |
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我再問你，你現在又要跟我們要1,000億增資，台電資本額現在已經5,800億了，對不對？是啊。 |
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0.647 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:49.430000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:51.273000+08:00 |
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5,800億喔，再加1,000億就6,800億喔。是啊。 |
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0.385 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:33:53.115000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:00.665000+08:00 |
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民股的股權又再稀釋了，原來四點多變三點多，現在可能低於三喔，部長，怎麼辦，民股怎麼辦？ |
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0.919 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:09.191000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:14.372000+08:00 |
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報告委員，如果我不是增資就不是稀釋民股啊，如果你願意補貼，你補貼它就不會稀釋民股啊。 |
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0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:14.512000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:15.232000+08:00 |
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你沒有補貼啊。 |
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1 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:16.153000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:17.993000+08:00 |
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如果政府願意補貼這種額外的支出，它當然就不會稀釋民股啊！ |
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0.808 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:18.533000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:30.197000+08:00 |
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你知不知道你講的菲律賓已經在計畫要一個蓋大的光電廠，知不知道？ |
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0.931 |
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郭部長智輝 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:30.298000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:30.538000+08:00 |
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菲律賓會蓋很多大的光電廠啦。 |
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0.923 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:30.538000+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:49.991000+08:00 |
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你都不知道啊，關於光電，剛才委員就吐你，就已經2.6%再一點點，它要蓋這個大電廠，我們海底電線要1,500億，蓋個電廠要1,000億，這個叫隨便講講啊，部長，還是隨便講講，部長，你的評價很低啦，這個部長。 |
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0.861 |
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主席 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:50.491000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:54.205286+08:00 |
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好，謝謝賴士葆委員，部長請回座。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:54.505286+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-06T14:34:57.648143+08:00 |
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下一位質詢請陳冠廷委員。 |
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賴委員士葆：（14時30分）謝謝主席及各位先進，有請國發會的劉主委及經濟部的郭部長，兩位長官請。 |
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主席：請國發會劉主委、經濟部郭部長。 |
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賴委員士葆：先請教劉主委，如你所願，川普應該會贏得美國大選，你說對臺商是大利多，你這個講利多到底是有沒有根據啊？根據什麼？根據你的gut feeling，就是你的直覺，還是根據哪些報告，有沒有？ |
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劉主任委員鏡清：我跟委員報告…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為我的時間很短，你可不可以簡短講根據什麼？ |
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劉主任委員鏡清：他對中國企業徵收60%的稅…… |
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賴委員士葆：對臺灣是增加10%的稅啊！ |
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劉主任委員鏡清：對，我們相差50%的稅，我們最近企業被中國內捲殺到，他的徵稅有助於我們翻轉。 |
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賴委員士葆：你隨便說說啦。 |
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劉主任委員鏡清：第二個部分…… |
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賴委員士葆：好，請教部長，郭部長，你是電子業出身的，電子業的平均毛利多少？ |
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郭部長智輝：要看哪一個業啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：你的行業。 |
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郭部長智輝：電子業這麼長，甚至中下游…… |
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賴委員士葆：你的行業，你以前的崇越。 |
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郭部長智輝：半導體，我崇越是8%嘛。 |
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賴委員士葆：8%，現在我給你課10%，這樣你受得了嗎？我問你，受得了嗎？ |
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郭部長智輝：他又不是只有對我課10%，對別人也是10%啊！所以同業競爭沒有問題啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：你賺8%，你給他課了10%，你心裡沒有個準，所以現在劉主委講的話你同意嗎？他說川普當選，現在已經差不多當選了，對臺商是大利多嗎？ |
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劉主任委員鏡清：委員，那10%是美國人的公司在付的。 |
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賴委員士葆：來啊，你同不同意我問你，你同不同意？ |
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郭部長智輝：報告委員，我完全同意。 |
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賴委員士葆：完全同意，多一個川粉啦！ |
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劉主任委員鏡清：這是商業規則啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：我是不懂這個邏輯是什麼啦，你賺8%，給人家課10%，你還很高興，被課得很高興！我請問你…… |
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郭部長智輝：委員，我賺8%跟課10%完全沒有關係喔，那個是我進到美國的市場，他課10%是美國的客戶買，他會加10%來跟我買啊，但是我賺了8%是沒有少啊。 |
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劉主任委員鏡清：我們多半是FOB。 |
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賴委員士葆：部長啊，經濟部長，我在立法院這麼多年了，企業界出身的部長，我把你rating是非常後面的，你大概只有贏宗才怡，你比那個第一任企業界出來的林信義，差得有夠多！他的數字啊，問什麼都清清楚楚，但問你什麼，你都不清楚！比如我問你一個，台電有沒有股票上市？ |
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郭部長智輝：蛤？ |
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賴委員士葆：台電有沒有股票上市？ |
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郭部長智輝：沒有啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：蛤？ |
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郭部長智輝：沒有。 |
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賴委員士葆：以前有沒有？ |
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郭部長智輝：以前我不清楚啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：喔，不清楚，你都不準備，以前有啦！ |
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郭部長智輝：我為什麼要清楚以前的事呢？ |
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賴委員士葆：當然要，台電！好，那我再請問你，台電有沒有民股？ |
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郭部長智輝：有。 |
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賴委員士葆：多少？ |
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郭部長智輝：很少。 |
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賴委員士葆：多少？要背起來啊，拜託！ |
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郭部長智輝：我背這個對我的工作也沒幫助啊，委員。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼叫沒幫助？你不能這樣…… |
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郭部長智輝：我的腦袋也有限啊，對不對？ |
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賴委員士葆：這個因為你管油…… |
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郭部長智輝：我要管山、管海，管那麼多！ |
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賴委員士葆：你管油電糖水，基本資料你要背得很清楚啊！ |
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郭部長智輝：對啊，但這個不是基本資料。 |
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賴委員士葆：你要記得很清楚！我再問你，你現在又要跟我們要1,000億增資，台電資本額現在已經5,800億了，對不對？ |
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郭部長智輝：是啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：5,800億喔，再加1,000億就6,800億喔。 |
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郭部長智輝：是啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：民股的股權又再稀釋了，原來四點多變三點多，現在可能低於三喔，部長，怎麼辦，民股怎麼辦？ |
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郭部長智輝：報告委員，如果我不是增資就不是稀釋民股啊，如果你願意補貼，你補貼它就不會稀釋民股啊。 |
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賴委員士葆：你沒有補貼啊。 |
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郭部長智輝：如果政府願意補貼這種額外的支出，它當然就不會稀釋民股啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：你知不知道你講的菲律賓已經在計畫要一個蓋大的光電廠，知不知道？ |
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郭部長智輝：菲律賓會蓋很多大的光電廠啦。 |
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賴委員士葆：你都不知道啊，關於光電，剛才委員就吐你，就已經2.6%再一點點，它要蓋這個大電廠，我們海底電線要1,500億，蓋個電廠要1,000億，這個叫隨便講講啊，部長，還是隨便講講，部長，你的評價很低啦，這個部長。 |
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主席：好，謝謝賴士葆委員，部長請回座。 |
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下一位質詢請陳冠廷委員。 |
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68 |
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委員會-11-2-19-10 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
邱志偉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
陳亭妃 |
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林岱樺 |
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呂玉玲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
謝衣鳯 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
邱議瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
賴瑞隆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
張嘉郡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
張啓楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
鄭正鈐 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
陳超明 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
蔡易餘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
洪孟楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
葉元之 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
許宇甄 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
陳冠廷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[19] |
牛煦庭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[20] |
羅智強 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[21] |
王鴻薇 |
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1 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-11-06 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1139401 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1139401_00002 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
一、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院主計總處首長、勞動部首長、教育部首
長、財政部首長就「我國青年低薪成因檢討及因應對策，暨如何促進企業提升青年及基層員工薪
資水準」進行報告，並備質詢；二、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員就「我國傳統產
業及中小企業發展困境探討、因應對策及相關振興方案」進行報告，並備質詢 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1139401_00001 |