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| 委員名稱 |
吳春城 |
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09:58:13 - 10:08:16 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會公聽會（事由：舉行「壯世代政策及產業發展」公聽會） |
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哦! |
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謝謝主席謝謝今天出席的所有的專家學者政府官員今天是立法院最有水準的一場公聽會不管是從什麼角度我覺得聽了都非常的開心因為大家都 |
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李卓人議員 |
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高齡化跟少子化問題是不是更嚴重我們這裡國發會的應該是變得更加嚴重我們少子化每年花了一千多億還提早了15年這一次最近10月17號做的報告我們的高齡化問題 |
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那所以表示什麼表示我們現在的政策表示我們現在的解方你滿意嗎你滿意嗎有效嗎 |
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今天大家站在一個時代的轉捩點轉換口其實立法院每天很吵我覺得我們這一場最重要臺灣未來30年最重要的事情就是高齡化少子化的問題了啦今天問題再不解決好的話那人都已經要減少一千萬人了 |
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整個的政府、整個的立法院有在討論這件事情嗎?沒有!我告訴大家今天期區議堂就靠了我們各位我們是不是能夠翻轉這個思想這個一個新的時代來臨我們要用新的思維我跟大家講我到立法院以後我才深刻的感受到大家講了半天你知道除了衛福部之外各個部會對於60歲以上的預算都不到1%都不到1%交易部是多少?0.2% |
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文化部是多少這表示什麼大家講了半天政府為什麼會這樣子因為他覺得60歲以後的沒用了跟我無關為什麼包括我們的人也是一樣60歲以後包括他自我催眠我們整個的社會在告訴你60歲以後要幹什麼對照顧人越來越多這些人 |
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這個我不要講太激動很重要的所以我們今天要在這裡來開著會我希望我們大家能夠攜手合作明年台灣再55天台灣邁向超高齡社會元年這是一場災難還是一個禮物呢各位覺得長壽是災難還是禮物當然是禮物啊無庸置疑 |
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為什麼要叫壯世代? |
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壯世代是一場社會運動這已經從2020年在民間開始已經推動了不是臨時在立法院蹦出來的東西了已經掀起了軒然大波各位去google幾十萬筆在討論壯世代幾十萬筆在討論壯世代這一個不管為什麼以前叫老人叫銀髮叫勒領不管是怎麼樣你的身份你去問 |
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你用去 大家都是已經被汙名化的 沒有人願意承認這些事情以至於他成為一個沒有身份的人 變成一個欠缺方向的時代壯世代就是賦予他的新身份為什麼要改名 都講說有需要什麼名稱的名稱嗎 那為什麼以前三胞要改名叫原住民殘障為什麼要改名叫身障 |
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一個名詞就代表了一種身份就是一種汙名化那現在高齡者我們給他一個他很喜歡的名詞我已經在民間傳佈了像福音傳福音一樣四年了每一個聽到以後整個的精神都很旺起來 |
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民間培訓了一千位壯世代的speaker 到處在宣講所以這是一個社會運動 這不是我們今天關在那個房間裡面閉門造句的東西 |
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所有的媒體你現在看,上週去年用二十幾頁封面故事談壯世代今年十月份用三十幾頁封面故事談壯世代的百強企業所有的企業都在使用,不是一個新名詞下個月要辦的資訊業也創了壯世代董資樂園,董資訊的樂園 |
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327.54 |
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347.939 |
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如果你用那個大數據雲圖你輸入銀髮高齡老人產生的這個雲圖大概就是老化退化銀髮族失能俱樂部大概都在然後樂火獨居長照大概在討論這議題如果你輸入的是壯世代他就是時尚質感文化參與活動分享你要哪一個 |
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350.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
372.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
這就是我們政府行政院去年所提出的超高齡社會對策白皮書的目錄我拿這個目錄問陳建仁院長他72歲我問他說院長這個沒有利用的喔你看他拿幾樣會讓你動心他看一下以後說我都不需要請問誰需要這就是我們政府對高齡社會的想像 |
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374.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
403.111 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
在這個翻轉叫做因法族思維翻轉成為壯世代的思維這改變的是何等的多大我們現在是停留在因法族如果你設定的是因法族你所想像的他就是什麼不是要去醫院就是在醫院的路上他的人生只要求平安他是年輕人的負擔他就是養生養平安如果你是壯世代他有30年的健康餘命他渴望自我貢獻促進世代的循環精彩的第三人生完全不一樣的政策完全不同的產業 |
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406.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
432.923 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
其實這件事情不是突然冒出來其實上一次辦的公聽會有8個部會的部長全程參與了4個小時的公聽會大家有高度的共識包括這一次13個部會所提出來的報告都有所以大家都已經進行半年的不是大家還搞不清楚的問題已經各個部會13個部會已經跟我合作了將近半年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
434.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
449.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
但是這個半年當中我們不滿意為什麼大家所提出的64項計畫就像你剛才都是都是熱領活動沒有前瞻性沒有策略性都只是現有政策的會編這就是為什麼要立法的原因 |
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451.812 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
451.972 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
467.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
481.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
我們透過了整個立法院 成立了各個的系統 這裡是上次都有支撐的來建立這樣子 所以有龐大的專家學者共同在運作 不是我一個人在做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
482.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
509.204 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
這是一步促進世代循環 剛才也提這堂的一個權益跟照顧 這個是唯一現在 我們現在說的 大家都是這個國家 那個國家國家沒有辦法養這個一半的人啦 現在壯世代掌握三分之的財富他要創造的這個產業 透露對年輕人最來最大的希望 獲得新創跟長壽機會各個部位所扮演角色 壯世代整個的精神就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
511.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
525.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
現在我們是單軌制都是照護性的措施大概只能照顧15%的人未來會有800萬85%如果沒有給他發展性的政策任由自生自滅的話會造成人口土石流連未來要照顧的也照顧不好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
527.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
553.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
所以這個三個字接下來這就是扶養比年輕世代的問題我們現在分子就是受照顧的人分母就是工作人口因為高齡化所以分子越來越大因為少子化分母越來越小目前是3.6比13.6個人2040年是2比1兩個人要照顧一個2057年是1比1接下來就是崩潰的社會請問政府有沒有解方沒有聽到任何的解方 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
554.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
555.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
這就是現在哪一個政策比這樣更先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
568.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
588.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
翻轉700萬現在55家有700甚至400萬人這些人沒有方向感翻轉這些人本來成為國家發展的動力每一個部會他都要重新定位他的工作角色這是未來一半人口的方向政府應該扛起這個責任來 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
589.761 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
589.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
主席 |
| IVOD_ID |
156530 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156530 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024103033 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會公聽會（事由：舉行「壯世代政策及產業發展」公聽會） |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-06T09:58:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-06T10:08:16+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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