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委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
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10:01:13 - 10:10:00 |
影片長度 |
527 |
會議時間 |
2024-11-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院主計總處首長、勞動部首長、教育部首長、財政部首長就「我國青年低薪成因檢討及因應對策,暨如何促進企業提升青年及基層員工薪資水準」進行報告,並備質詢。
二、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員就「我國傳統產業及中小企業發展困境探討、因應對策及相關振興方案」進行報告,並備質詢。) |
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請邱毅英委員謝謝主席我請一下郭部長請經濟部郭部長委員早部長早部長我想今天有幾個問題請教您最近國營事業換人的幅度還蠻大的 |
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部長您這個在國營事業換人的這個過程裡面有跟哪些人討論過討論的時間是多久我們這個您剛才在講是國營事業的高層吧對國營事業的高層國營事業的董事長、總經理現在換人的幅度是很大的嘛是我想這個部分牽扯到整個有跟誰討論過嗎整個國家當然有討論的時間是多久 |
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我們大概這個部分大概已經我上任以後 |
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大概就6月份開始討論是這樣嗎?是這個是昨天你們的中油董事長跟總經理交接是那部長你沒有去嘛是你們的內部的同仁說因為您在開會所以你沒有去參加是那由經濟部政次去兼交對我要請教就是說中油董事長是什麼時候知道自己要被換?大概兩個月前吧 |
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二、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、邀請經濟部部長:一、 |
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你之前告訴他什麼時候告訴他我這我不管嘛但你有沒有明確的跟他說大概什麼時候要換人要準備即使是要換人你也要給人家時間交接嘛來這個是台塘台塘28號簽公文30號叫人家滾蛋走路10月4號交接這是台塘台船呢也是一樣 |
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臺船董事長一紙公文告訴鄭文榮你下臺就換人臺船總經理更可憐在臺船工作了52年只剩下10天就要退休了你一紙公文禮拜五下午一紙公文禮拜一叫人換人走人部長您經營過一個公司啊你看到一個52年的老員工 |
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一紙公文叫他立刻滾蛋他還對著臺船鞠躬的時候你內心不會感到很難過嗎你知道我看到這張照片我眼淚都掉下來了我不知道我們的政府怎麼了我今天身為一個執政黨的立法委員我很久沒有在這裡怒罵執政黨的官員這個政府什麼時候變得這麼殘忍 |
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這個政府什麼時候變得這麼不人道這個政府什麼時候變得不懂得什麼叫尊重尊重兩個字很難嗎一個做了這麼久的官員你要換誰我都沒有意見但是我覺得對人的起碼的尊重應該要有吧應該要有吧 |
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郭董事長您同意我的看法嗎?您過去經營過一個公司,你的公司會這樣換人嗎?或許會,因為你是民間公司。你說換就換,你不想要用這個人說fire就fire。可是一個國家的機器,國家可以這樣換人嗎? |
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報告委員我想我們的換人都會尊重這個所謂的這個法律的這個規定你尊重法律的規定但是你沒有尊重個人嘛你說你我沒有說你不能換掉他我講的是尊重兩個字 |
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二十八號給他一個公文他剩下十天要退休了你多等他十天很難嗎?讓他有尊嚴的退休很難嗎?三十號給他一個公文十一月四號交接只有兩個工作天他連打包都來不及啊 |
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這些人一輩子奉獻在國家 |
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部長 其實這個不是只有你們的問題啊盧天寧也是這樣 一紙公文叫人家走路蔡黃郎也是這樣 一紙公文叫人家走路不是只有不是只有你國營會那國營會 市長您擔任國營會這麼久我不相信你們過去在處理人事是這樣子處理的你們過去處理人事是這樣處理的嗎我可以請國營市長 |
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董事長跟委員報告我們事實上現在處理大概都是我們收到行政院公文以後我們會給公司有一段安排董事會的時間所以絕對不會是當天我們會等到公司已經把董事會的時間確定出來跟董事長報告怎麼安排以後我們再發公文 |
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這樣才可以確保公司不會沒有董事長而用代理的方式所以看起來雖然公文可能是前兩天拿到但是原來的董事會跟董事長都已經提前知道否則我們不會安排這個時間因為這樣子如果不把董事會安排好他就可能會有七、八天的時間這個公司是沒有董事長的所以我們現在這個處理方式大概是這樣確定你們是這樣處理嗎?不會,對我們都有先跟公司那個市長我如果再問下去齁你們真的會很難堪啊 |
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我再問下去真的是打執政黨一個大巴掌很多國營事業我講了我對你用什麼人我沒有意見但我對於你不懂得尊重這件事情我非常有意見我們今天要討論這個這個主席安排的議程要討論這個加薪啊要討論這些東西如果說政府部門自己連基本的尊重都做不到 |
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你不要跟我談說你的施政會多有效果啦明星都不在啦郭董事長您在當董事長的時候應該不會這樣治理公司吧您說你要把你治理公司那一套拿來治理經濟部您治理公司的時候不會這樣子吧這個是讓我覺得最痛心的地方啊接二連三這一個多月來國營事業的人事汰換 |
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我必須再一次講我覺得你們對於基本的尊重都沒有我真的看到台船總經理這個照片我真的內心非常非常非常的難過在台船工作了52年竟然被你們一紙公文就這樣子掃地出門你叫台船公司的員工如何對這個公司盡心盡力呢 |
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你叫中油公司的員工如何對這個公司盡心盡力呢只要一紙公文就可以讓人家滾蛋啊你叫這些人如何為公司賣命呢如果你的從業集團你也是這樣子對待員工的話這些人如何為你的公司賣命這麼簡單的道理嗎你今天要講加薪如果待人不能待薪的話 |
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這個國家的治理是會很有問題的啊我不知道一個治理企業的部長來到了經濟部之後反而是這樣子對待國營事業的董監事、董事長如此處理國營事業的人士我後面的東西我也不想問了謝謝委員 這個部門我們會深刻檢討我覺得你們最尊重這兩個字 完全不懂是 我們會回去檢討 |
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主席 |
IVOD_ID |
156529 |
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日期 |
2024-11-06 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-10 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
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19 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
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開始時間 |
2024-11-06T10:01:13+08:00 |
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2024-11-06T10:10:00+08:00 |
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