| IVOD_ID |
156342 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156342 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-30T13:23:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-30T13:28:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:04:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/da0d5cdf8d126ade9732fc2aa8abfa01b22eacfd31272a3d01f23eb7619bd402e766b101dd82558b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:23:49 - 13:28:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請經濟部部長、環境部首長就「我國對設置SRF發電廠之規劃評估，及設置SRF發電廠對我國環境之影響」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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請羅廷瑋委員質詢。謝謝主席,有請部長。請郭部長。 |
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林俊憲、郭國文抗議9位電廠設置燃氣機組 |
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林金萱委員好像沒有提到這個問題好沒關係他們的抗議內容大致你知道狀況嗎我在這個接受質詢的時候大概只有這個郭國文委員提出嘛好那他提出的內容就是希望不要設置在那邊那最後您有同意嗎我們現在我現在還沒有到程序不到我這裡有沒有同意我要 |
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看他的這個程序的走的,看狀況是怎麼樣?好,我現在另外一部分我想再另外關心喔,因為昨天張祺凱委員有在這個質詢的時候有提到黃仁勳這個AI大廠說需要100億的綠電,您是秒答應看起來是非常非常的有決心要做這件事情那我們當然覺得利益良善但是台中人 |
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請說 |
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不好意思時間一直在轉我速度在等你們報告委員我們台電選擇的煤都盡量採高燃值低灰值的這個煤所以就是賴清德口中乾淨的煤我們盡量燒那個就是比例最高就是能源效率最好你結巴了所以跟他所陳述的是一樣的 |
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呃...我們...好,我不勉強你啦來我幾個訴求要跟部長特別說部長待會環境部會有一個會議是有關於台電現在所謂的蒸汽不一定會減煤之前王美花部長有特別提到在台中如果要增加燃氣機組會幫我們減煤炭機組那這個部分您的態度呢是,完全正確阿你也會繼續朝這個部分來執行嗎這是蒸汽來減煤阿 |
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對,阿真的實際會有所謂的我們的藍媒機組會直接除役嗎?我們現在看到的是停了機組一增一減喔?這個不一定 |
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那你有相關的一個配套或者是載入到公文白紙黑字確定嗎? |
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這個不需要白紙黑字吧當然需要當然你可能覺得不需要但對於我們台中人是水深火熱我要講到的是幾件事情喔沒關係為我的訴求我要先講喔台中人就像現在我手中所拿的這個是所謂的空氣濾淨機 |
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我們被當成是行動的空氣濾鏡機在這個政策之下一直不斷的犧牲最近啊你有沒有看到在整個網路的輿論當中只要搜尋一下電費帳單大家不斷的在網路上亮出自己的帳單告訴我們現在的社會他覺得實際漲價有感 |
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電費真的是越來越貴我們一手被拿走了財產一手被奪取了生命從台中市衛生局所登記列載的我們相關的致癌率由肺癌是最高的 |
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所以我可行性的去了解我去評估如果藍莓機組持續的汰除可以有效的降低所謂的致癌尤其是肺癌這個部分第三個我要講的是我們現在看到的這也有關於所謂的前瞻計畫當然前瞻計畫我們一直在講我們希望不要有所謂的中部跟南部的差距 |
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現在看到南部高雄拿了1256億台中只有228億這些都是中央對待於台中市把台中市當成是二等公民我們第三層的剝削在這邊第四層的剝削我們要看到所許多的新聞我們都在問現在的賴總統我們的電力網的分部他跟大家說啊 |
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電網分散提早4年完成現在我們卻看到如果這些燃煤燃氣機組同時在火力發電廠他一定是台灣之罪他的排汰量也一定會是世界之罪我們很擔憂在電力部網的一個過程沒有去過於分散沒有去做相關的電網分布 |
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這對於中共來說是最開心的他攻擊台中火力發電廠就可以控制大部分的所謂的電力輸出我想以上這些我簡單的講了這麼多都只是希望我們這些能夠再協助台中市的發聲能夠給中央部會看到台中市的需求我曾經在火力發電廠決實抗議從當時我們就 |
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決定一定要反對藍莓機組到現在我的初衷都沒有變那剛剛很高興有聽到你所說的藍棲機組能夠一併的到位以後能夠汰除藍莓機組我想從這樣子的一個態度我們可以認同但我們也很擔心中間會被跳票所以我們一定要強烈的反應 |
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謝謝委員,你一定要支持我們的燃氣上去,不然它你看不到燃煤下來。第二個,我是不是能夠請你這個了解一下子,肺癌不是我的這個燃煤機場唯一的要素。我們可不可以了解一下台中有多少人抽煙,然後它跟這個肺癌有正相關。 |
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我們要了解這個問題我們希望真正的來同樣因為台中也是我們的國民我們也關心整個台中的這個發展大家的健康所以我要知道那個原因是什麼如果真的是我們燃眉的話燃眉而造成他們的肺癌增加我們有非常大的這個 |
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這個罪惡在所以我一定要把燃氣趕快推上去然後讓燃煤趕快下來部長我們的結論很簡單我們都支持燃氣機組換燃煤機組我們沒有要去擋現在也看到如果今天燃氣機組這麼好那為什麼郭國文他們要去做抗議 |
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那他們可以抗議臺中市不能夠發聲臺中市沒有說不裝燃氣機組臺中市沒有說不裝燃氣機組我們可以燃氣換燃煤我們最低的要求最低的一線是分氣換煤當然啦他有很多理由去牽扯到說那個地方不對那我也講嘛臺中地方不對應該到外縣市嘛 |
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大家都有各自的理由心裡想的是什麼大家都知道但是我們的目標是什麼讓國人更好生命財產能夠有所保護這一點我們是一樣有共識好我們一起來努力好一起來努力謝謝 |