IVOD_ID |
156301 |
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日期 |
2024-10-30 |
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2024-10-30T11:30:35+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-10-30T11:38:52+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:17 |
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委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
委員發言時間 |
11:30:35 - 11:38:52 |
會議時間 |
2024-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆率所屬機關首長暨中央存款保險股份有限公司、監管相關機構有關之財團法人、臺灣證券交易所股份有限公司、臺灣期貨交易所股份有限公司、臺灣集中保管結算所股份有限公司等董事長、總經理列席業務報告,並備質詢。二、繼續審查「證券交易稅條例」5案:(一) 行政院函請審議「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(二) 本院委員羅明才等20人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案。(三) 本院委員賴士葆等25人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(四) 本院委員伍麗華等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(五) 本院委員邱志偉等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案」案。三、審查「證券交易稅條例」5案:(一) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「證券交易稅條例部分條文修正草案」。【本案如經院會復議,則不予審查】(二) 本院委員林楚茵等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案。(三) 本院委員李坤城等22人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」。【本案如經院會復議,則不予審查】(四) 本院委員賴惠員等37人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(五) 本院委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」。【本案如經院會復議,則不予審查】四、審查金融監督管理委員會函送「延長調降當日沖銷交易稅之稅式支出評估報告」及「研商延長調降當沖交易證券交易稅實施期間」公聽會之會議紀錄案。五、討論中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案(含附屬單位預算及綜計表-營業及非營業部分)審查日程暨審查分配表草案。【10/30及10/31,兩天一次會】) |
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好主席謝謝麻煩請金管會主委、彭主委請金管會主委 |
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黃議員好黃主委好本席有特別注意到我們在金管會這邊也是大家都關心說淨零碳牌的一個部分2050所以說你這邊有落實永續金融推動低派轉型是那昨天也看到金管會應該是下面單位有提到說我們現在要防止綠色漂白是對不對所以說永續的金融證照那以及還有就是未來的綠色壽信要納金管但是大家就看 |
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2028年才要納因為我們對於金融機構還有上市櫃我們有定有一定的進程這會按照進程因為畢竟規模大小差距有差所以我們會按照他們的規模大小但是我們推動這個永續綠色、綠能尤其是像現在環境部他也講是說相關的碳費等等的一個計算以及國際上來講這什麼時候開始的 |
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主委有沒有概念其實我們現在綠色授信的部分應該是我們現在金融機構都已經在做了而且我們也納入了很多我們相關評比的還有他們自己的內控制度裡面都已經在做了因為其實不管我們是啊所以外界才會質疑是說既然現在都已經有在做那為什麼是2028年 |
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才會有一個精簡才納入精簡因為我們2028是有個時程那現在的話我們就按照時程來進行當然我們現在金融業所以滿意這個效率嗎還要再三年他其實已經很多開始做我們希望按照那個時程的時候我們才能夠用檢查來要求這件事情 |
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這會不會讓大家外界覺得有點放水的嫌疑啊所以這個就是昨天因為你們昨天出來之後媒體、網路上討論也覺得是說這是感覺好像要給大家更多的放寬期那你會不會2028年之後還有再往後再延後的一個部分那我們講說如果說現在都已經有在做了大家也認為是說防止漂綠嘛你自己這特別講到是說永續漂綠避免漂綠的事情那既然這樣的話 |
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現在還有需要這樣的時間到底是效率不彰還是認為是說哪些大企業沒有辦法配合主委是不是再說明一下 |
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我想剛才委員關鍵確實就是大家可能會希望說當然這是一件好事還是三年的空窗期也不是因為我們現在實務上已經如果有注意到我們各個金融機構對這個綠色投融資都已經非常非常的在意就是很在意甚至很多大家都會覺得是說它已經變成是一個熱門的議題了所以它甚至很多的投資者都會看到綠色的永續的它都會特別 |
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好像變成是一個宣傳的一個大家都有這個心啦希望做這件事情我想因為我們站在一個監理立場比如說我們的很多的標準很多都很明確比如說我們現在對於碳排的計算這些東西呢我們有些地方還沒有很清楚比如說我們這個永續經濟活動指引我們也不是全面的推動所以有沒有一定 |
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一定要2018年還是有沒有可能有加速的可能性當然說能夠盡早的這個鼓勵他們的話我們會盡快來做但是我們要有一個比較合理的這個明確的規定調適期這樣我們才能進行公權力的介入 |
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主委 那就 |
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既然說出就要做到那再來第二個部分金融詐騙大家也都非常的關心我特別看了一下我們現在金管會的一個相關的防詐宣導有專區啊但是我說實在話這個專區讓大家還是覺得說是不是隔靴搔癢的我們持續在經濟上市也有委員您的經濟的做法 |
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對,就是我們上次有請我們同仁盡量去在我們的專區部分呢把實際的作為跟對大家宣導那比如說有些比較過時什麼的我們就應該把它...你有沒有看過您的專區?有有嗎?對,有那裡面告訴大家的防詐方法是什麼?比如說它很多的防詐的類型還有說我們該注意的事情還有我們現在的作為那點進去裡面到最後都是告訴大家 |
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要記得撥打電話165來詢問一下那很多國人在講說我們金管會有沒有更積極的作為在於是源頭管理的部分當詐騙集團把錢騙去的時候大量如果說那個金錢被詐騙了大量的這個叫不正常的去提領款 |
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這個能不能做一個試鏡不要說讓詐騙集團被騙到之後馬上他就把錢領走了那從一個專區沒辦法看出我們所有的在比如說我們在銀行端、帳戶端所做的努力很多東西我們也不能在那邊大張旗鼓的去說就像 |
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我想現在很多的我們對一些警示帳戶很多帳戶的管理我們的機制陸陸續續都持續出來所以我們現在有很多像剛才講的最重要我們是在做帳戶的管理這件事情對於還有像比如說我們對一些比如說我們剛才提到大家關心的比如說比如外籍人士離開以後那些帳戶就其實我們都在做很多很多的這樣的處置否則的話這個詐騙的帳號會使用會更多但是剛才講 |
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比如說我們有研究各式各樣的方法來降低這個比如說詐騙的可能還有就是讓他的賬戶的成本提高主委 是喜不喜歡看電影 |
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家裡有沒有Netflix沒有沒有串流平台沒有時間看Netflix十月我推薦一部電影我覺得這一個也真的是我們監管會所有同仁都應該要去看不是要幫他打廣告但是他是Netflix十月台灣地區也是No.1排行第一的電影叫做《孤注一擲》 |
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他是大陸騙2023年的他裡面演的就是詐騙的猖狂包括說人頭怎麼樣被騙到國外地區包括年輕人怎麼樣被囚禁包括說怎麼樣利用金融的漏洞來去詐騙甚至他裡面就提到800萬的現金匯到海外之後他們用車手每個人發金融卡馬上在短時間內把那800萬現金給領出來然後就變成詐騙集團就得手了 |
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那這一個部分就是我們過去到現在其實有關注的就是說當有一個戶頭裡面突然間匯出或匯入大量的資金而大量的資金短時間內被不同人在不同的ATM領出去的時候其實我相信以現在的科技以現在的技術絕對可以做一個示警那能不能做這樣一個示警先把它做一個短時間的凍結確認說這個客戶他是確實是要做這樣的一個交易來防止可能的詐騙 |
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其實我們金融業在做疑似這個賬戶其實已經做很多這個我應該提醒我也請他們開始去去查一下有沒有這個其實我講的其實也都是大家只是說這部電影只是他把它拍出來但我要的其實是我們金管會的同仁因為主委大家都對你有期待我希望的是我們的金管會真的能夠看到人家會拍出這部電影說實在這個詐騙手法說不定已經兩三年前了 |
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王士堅委員 |