| IVOD_ID |
156259 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156259 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-30 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-30T09:55:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-30T10:08:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:41 - 10:08:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆率所屬機關首長暨中央存款保險股份有限公司、監管相關機構有關之財團法人、臺灣證券交易所股份有限公司、臺灣期貨交易所股份有限公司、臺灣集中保管結算所股份有限公司等董事長、總經理列席業務報告，並備質詢。二、繼續審查「證券交易稅條例」5案：(一) 行政院函請審議「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(二) 本院委員羅明才等20人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案。(三) 本院委員賴士葆等25人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(四) 本院委員伍麗華等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(五) 本院委員邱志偉等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案」案。三、審查「證券交易稅條例」5案：(一) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「證券交易稅條例部分條文修正草案」。【本案如經院會復議，則不予審查】(二) 本院委員林楚茵等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案。(三) 本院委員李坤城等22人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」。【本案如經院會復議，則不予審查】(四) 本院委員賴惠員等37人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。(五) 本院委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」。【本案如經院會復議，則不予審查】四、審查金融監督管理委員會函送「延長調降當日沖銷交易稅之稅式支出評估報告」及「研商延長調降當沖交易證券交易稅實施期間」公聽會之會議紀錄案。五、討論中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案（含附屬單位預算及綜計表－營業及非營業部分）審查日程暨審查分配表草案。【10/30及10/31，兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請今晚會的彭主委好 請彭主委委員早辛苦了 主委我們看到這兩天川普他一副要當勛的樣子現在看起來民調對他越來越有利但是昨天你放了一個炮 |
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講說 又講第二次喔 說臺灣偷了他的美國的晶片業這個 他這話一講啊 昨天台積電就暴跌啊臺灣的股市也暴跌到今天回來了然後 這個話 我就請問你啊 |
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現在來講的話如果川普當選是不是對我們的晶片業比如半導體乃至於科技業非常不利會不會 |
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先跟委員抱歉一下我不是個股市分析師對於這個事件其實我們有非常密切的關注包括我們有跟我們兩個交易所還有我們旗局的同仁都有密集的去研商相關不管任何結果的發生我們的資本市場應該會因應著相關的一些作為 |
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這個都是有可能的那個結果的話我們都應該想像一下就陳儒剛剛委員指正就說昨天那個只是一個新聞然後就這樣但是我覺得市場還是有他理性的一面就是說他當然消息的衝擊難免但是覺得假設真的是有他實質的支撐我覺得還是會回歸到他真實的狀況可是為什麼消息我們都知道嘛 |
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這個股市的消息面他一定是為什麼變成一個重大影響他變政策啊川普當選的話那機率越來越高看起來他當選的話他對臺灣來講的話他就要把晶片業通通到美國設廠對臺灣來講的話他一直在修理臺灣的晶片業難道不是利空當然是利空啊而且利空不會出境啊他當選你要利空才開始的 |
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我這樣講你同意嗎因為我剛剛跟委員抱歉就是我們今晚會倒不會是針對這個我們是針對整體市場的沒有啊就整體市場啊這產業我不跟你講股市我是跟你講對產業的衝擊 |
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對 就是說確實我想從我們從整個我們這個對資本市場一些的訊息的監控裡面這樣那個訊息確實會對我們的資本市場會產生影響這是不可否認的那我再請問你你剛說的營運的對策也就是說你有營運的劇本嗎 對不對因為我們一直都有都有 好 那如果是這樣子 |
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你們不如name of field講一些比方說你的意義是什麼讓我們安心一下吧來來來講一下name of field對不對資本市場他有很多面向啦剛剛沒有錯沒有啦你就specific針對川普當選你的劇本是什麼啦這樣啦快點啦這公開來講我公開問你的啊可能我想這個部分都會影響到市場我想 |
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這個委員抱歉我沒辦法在這邊跟各位講我們具體說怎樣我會採取什麼動作我想過去一直也沒有對外說明這是我們一個行政機關該有的準備作為好那我再換一個角度不要談這個那你就講因為這美國不管誰當選對我們的資本市場絕對是一個重大的一個政治上的衝擊對不對 |
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是,不只誰當選,還有他的很多的利率政策,還有他對我們的一些貿易的相關的...好,那就請問你,那你的因應對策是什麼嗎?你這個到現在不願意講,那我就撇開,不要講川普,你的因應對策是什麼?我想齁,我們過去在這個半年來,其實臺灣的資本市場面臨到...不不,你不要跟我這個鋪陳啦,我實際有些人告訴我是什麼,比如說我準備更多的銀子 |
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來護盤或者其他什麼的你告訴我們啊讓我們安心一下啊就是說我們其實過去在因應市場非理性的波動的時候我們一直都有一些因應的措施以及相關的步驟我想這個大概就是我能跟委員報告的地方假設它是一個很理性的反應市場的狀況的話我覺得這部分是一個資本市場它該有的功能但假設說已經很多消息面不正確或是一些非理性的 |
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這會影響到我們的資本市場而且現在我們的股票市場正在交易中我這個頭髮在癢你屏幕一直抓我的手抓錯地方啦真的 |
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沒有回答我的問題啊是就是說剛剛比如說我們舉那個你可以講嘛我們最最bottom line的因應就是國安基金啊那不是嗎對國安基金就是因應非理性的啊這你能說嗎什麼都不能說 |
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國安基金是財政部在處理我們是管資本市場的啊你可以建議啊建議我們當然會有管道去同步在做這件事情啦因為比如說我跟委員並不是我兜圈子我跟委員報告比如說我們曾經在8月5號發生的一件事情就是我們史上最大的跌幅在前一天我們也降低一千點臺灣的股市很少在兩天之間 |
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我們做過很多的預言跟推演所以我們包括後面很多事情我想大家都可以看到我們後來我們做了什麼事情有些 |
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對外有限公司你說一般都不跟人家說的那根本是什麼問題我頭很癢還沒有抓頭你奇怪的那是什麼嗎是什麼如果不知道委員如果現在能夠抓我一定幫你抓對啊但是確實我覺得在我們主管機關的職責上面我們不會對這種情況做臆測而影響到市場那我想說我們背後呢因為我們有很多的經驗很多的方法其實我們很多實際上有問題因為你的工具真的有錢嘛 |
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就那幾個嘛 對不對 我的漲跌幅、處理漲跌幅 對不對這個就是那幾個工具嘛 大家也知道我是要叫你name a few 你就a few 就不要耶 來來來 所以沒有答案就對了沒有答案但是我今天不方便跟委員報告 就是剛剛委員提到說我們有的政策工具我們有的政策工具 |
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來我們來看喔你現在有沒有開放專業投資人可以附如同賣、賣比特幣、ETF是不是開放專業投資人嘛對不對專業的投資人那什麼時候開放給一般投資人 |
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這個齁我覺得這個沒有一定的時間表因為其實我們社會上有兩種意見一種是說給大家期待啊那不是嗎為什麼提這個因為大家認為川普如果上來比特幣比特幣最近的這漲了才是因為因為川普的後勢看好他就在往上拉是沒錯對不對所以有些人想要我們投資紀律這樣也不行 |
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其實應該講跟委員報告就是說我們這個是逐步開放其實很多國家連這個都沒辦法做那我們是先從專業投資人他風險承受力比較好的開始我們也必須看他執行的成效我們才能夠你只是有觀察期嘛那個觀察期多久半年我想觀察期的話半年可以嗎 |
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半年可以是一個觀察點只是我們還是要看他的交易量還有交易的關係所以半年以後再決定要不要開放給一般投資人我們隨時可以評估假設我應該提到我們給半年來評估他的實施結果我可以這麼承諾就半年我會來評估一次 |
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半年來評估要不要開放給一般投資人可以這樣說反正我們來評估真正執行的成效看看確實是否對這個我們的投資人是否真能夠完全能夠了解再過一兩天啊 |
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在臺北有Fintech展金管會的角色是什麼這是我們跟金融總會跟金融業兩年一度的國際上非常重要的這樣的活動主要是金融總會的辦理我們來做指導單位你會去嗎我們通常主委開幕一定會去所以你去講話你要重點在哪裡 |
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董事長、總經理列席業務報告 |
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我們立場第一個就是我剛剛有簡單報告我們鼓勵金融科技的發展希望金融機構跟金融科技到現在為止你的BIN TAG比較那個就是開放網路銀行那幾家績效也不怎麼樣請問你網路銀行還要不要再開放網路銀行現在看起來是市場上短期沒有這個需求所以不要開放如果有人申請呢? |
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我們其實並沒有說禁止我只是說這個屬性其實我們還是要觀察市場的金融法人的結果你們你們 |
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金融沙盒金融沙盒條例確實很多地方需要調我們也有委託委外營就做還要再調整監理沙盒在很多場合就是說比如說我們的落地機制那其實上是需要調整的因為否則它的誘因是比較不夠的好 我們一起來調整金融沙盒最後一個那個交易所的長官你其他人有嗎 |
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財政委員會財政委員會財政委員會財政委員會財政委員會 |
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交易額多少交易額的部分來講我們基本上現在是國際的探險的交易國內的是剛啟動而已那我們交易的金額基本上來講的話大概是一兩千萬 |
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這等於沒有啊這等於市場等於沒有啊這問題在哪裡那就是因為你臺灣的廠商沒有讓他進來啊對不對沒有讓他一個他應該要進來啊現在來講已經要課碳費了 |
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要大家開始來熟悉這個東西結果你現在來講的話你的探交所只有國際上探權在那裡買賣嘛阿供錢在那裡等於一個籌碼讓那裡可以股票市場裡面可以交易買賣對於臺灣的廠商真的需要探權的或者我想賣的 |
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你有沒有提供個平台啊有,報告委員我們現在已經在10月我們在高雄launch了這個平台我們初期的時候有6個商品國內的探險的商品在架上 |
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我時間到了但是我就問你一句話是不是全面開放我們當然是全面開放國內的探權的那個supply他如果有一些project經過我們環境部的許可的都可以上架來在14天的公告期裡面一般的股份可以賣到嗎 |
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