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| 委員名稱 |
王育敏 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:27:49 - 12:34:55 |
| 影片長度 |
426 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會「國土計畫法修正草案」公聽會【本案歡迎各直轄市及縣(市)政府提供書面意見】113年10月24日（星期四）上午9時至中午12時(視必要時得延長)開會地點：紅樓202會議 |
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謝謝主席在場的專家學者還有代表還有我們行政部門的同仁我想有關於國土計畫法現在要上路然後引發的爭議的確是不少那我想全國民眾大家都不會反對國土計畫法的精神就是說基於環境的永續 |
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國土計畫法修正草案 |
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我深入走到嘉義縣阿里山就是進到山區之後我開始發現說我們有一些的法它其實是利益良善但是要落實的時候如果那個過程你跟地方的溝通是不足的你沒有在乎人民的感受跟聲音或者是去理解他真正在乎的是什麼那這個法可能到一半的時候就會像這次的國土計畫法就是即將要上路了 |
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但是反彈的聲音很大這一次你可以看到在國會裡面就是藍綠的委員大家都有這樣的一個疑慮而且提出來所以今天才會有這樣的一個公聽會而且會有暫緩的聲音那我覺得解決問題就是面對人民的意見跟聲音我們就很務實的攤開來討論這個才會有解方要不然最後就會變成是一個抗爭抗爭就是消耗我覺得那個不是處理問題的方法 |
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國土計畫法推動的過程當中當地人的感受非常的重要你必須聽見聽進去而且想辦法看他們這些意見跟聲音我們到底要怎麼樣來處理 |
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今天我也特別謝謝阿里山嘉義縣這邊我們黃理事長他剛剛的發言我也聽到他是很真誠的從他們在這片土地生活這麼久今天這個法就會影響到他 |
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李慧琼議員 |
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就是沒有我也問過劉世芳部長你有親自到第一線聽過嘉義縣阿里山這些山區的鄉民的意見嗎他們在乎的是什麼我跟各位報告我去那邊兩次晚上的時間聽鄉民怎麼說他們只是焦慮我可不可以在這片土地繼續生活我可不可以繼續我種茶葉的可不可以繼續種 |
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我種咖啡可不可以繼續種如果我的下一代他要繼續我們說希望青年返鄉他的心願很單純我兒子現在大二他回來就是繼續接我家裡的工作他未來還有沒有前景 |
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委員會否限制它未來的發展它沒有辦法在這個產業發展我覺得這個就是非常真實的問題我聽到了這些聲音那我覺得這些聲音官員也應該聽見內政部的官員都說地方政府有開公聽會像嘉義縣送的分區圖它只開了七場 |
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國土計畫法修正草案公聽會議 |
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你們有親自召來座談會嗎 劉思芳部長跟我說他沒有啊我說你有聽過阿里山鄉親他們真正意見是什麼他說沒有我說可不可以我們一起再去聽一遍他說好但現在都還沒有安排我要講的是涉及到人民土地的這件事情你的執行過程要夠細膩而且溝通是要雙向的而不是我下令要你做什麼而且鄉親他反映一個 |
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剛剛早上也有一個學者提出來現在各個縣市政府他的套土啊他所引用的這些資料年代比例圖他們的這些精緻程度不一樣也有誤差率請問當你要剝奪一個鄉親的土地判他是國宜是不是國宜的時候你是用套土的還是實地去看的去丈量的當鄉親有意見的時候你有沒有很細膩的去處理他的問題沒有啊 |
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嘉義縣這些鄉親告訴我就是說你塗一套然後就告訴我但是你從來他從來沒有看到有人實際到現場來丈量來判斷這樣的土地 |
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到底是不是適合劃入國一他是用套土的所以我覺得這個是發生在我們為什麼政策不能上路你執行的過程第一個缺乏雙向溝通第二個是你沒有一個很細膩的執行第三個人民的聲音好像聽不見這個就會導致你這個法落實的困難所以這件事情我是勸這個內政部溝通再溝通這個以前蔡英文總統雖然已經卸任了但是呢 |
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前輩再前輩溝通再溝通這件事情的解方只有溝通對話然後納入一些 |
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軍民在地的聲音而且我建議就是要因地制宜以這個嘉義縣阿里山這樣的地方來講你又要它發展觀光你又要發展產業又一天到晚說阿里山的茶葉很有名叫大家促進觀光你這個觀光署你希望一年是一千萬的觀光客但是這個地方它的特殊性你有沒有通盤的考量 |
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副副副副副副 |
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王育敏委員接下來游浩委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
156148 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156148 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-24 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-24T12:27:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-24T12:34:55+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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