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| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:53:27 - 10:03:16 |
| 影片長度 |
589 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部首長、環境部首長就「我國碳費徵收機制對產業衝擊之影響評估，及政府協助企業因應之配套措施」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請經濟部首長、環境部首長、財政部首長就「我國碳邊境調整機制（CBAM）推動規劃」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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市長,部長今天為什麼又請假?他怎麼又見請了嗎?是不幹了還是怎麼樣?他宴會去日本已經被罵啦!他怎麼樣?是上禮拜講了要去菲律賓 |
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蓋電廠是你被罵,現在又不來?沒有,不是不是,他已經...他今天這個會,我知道主席剛剛有報告,那個會那麼重要嗎?今天有28位立法委員要質詢欸這輕重緩急,我不要用藐視國會這麼重的話啦就是說,這本來...欸,包括賴清德、賴總統都講啦你們執政黨的立委,或者說從政黨員就要來他不是在挑戰賴清德、賴總統嗎? |
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這是不是本來就是部會首長該做的事情?這外界會怎麼解讀?好不好?市長你回去跟部長講一下下次不能再請假了好不好?下次不能再請假了好昨天本席開了一個很重要的記者會 |
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就是攸關我們電力發展三階第三天然氣這個接收站的他發生了兩個很嚴重的問題就是他這個保冷的這個管線的這個保冷這個係數不足第一個他用了國際上已經禁用了活力天這個有改進我昨天看我夾把李董找上來 |
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昨天看起來中友的反應還算是正面的還算是正面的他答應說很清楚的表示說如果這個材質有問題要換掉嘛 對不對那如果是新進的因為工程現在是一半1點這個山街從碼頭到儲存槽1.6公里的這個管線目前做了大概50%嘛那這50有問題的要趕快拆好不好不能夠像昨天我開記者會之前問你們你們說要邊做邊改一次改一公尺 |
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請協中,請協中,該協中,第一個速度比較慢嘛,第一個是公安問題,那個天然氣如果漏出來,也就不得了的事情。所以這個第一個要趕快做。這個安裝上去,我們一定會盡快把它整個全部把它...好,OK,一定要做。那個,所以次長你有掌握這個進度嘛,對不對?這事情你有掌握嘛,對不對?有有有。有掌握,來問一下最重要的,最重要的問題。 |
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電單位6月12號的時候我特別問了經濟部的部長所以說我看為什麼今天一定要在因為這三接太重要啊你又發現問題啊 |
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結果他6月10號他跟我講3J在明年4月份一定會建完對不對我就問他喔你一定要如期喔你不如期沒有接收在那個斷氣啊對不對你河山廠的2號機明年就停了嘛你5月份要停你4月沒有蓋好他說有把握好那經過昨天這個事情你沒辦法要改了對不對今天保證包括你包括中右董事長如期3J可以在明年的4月完成嗎 |
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可不可以跟委員報告依據我們目前對進度的掌握那所有包括這些保養材料的更新我們都來得及以目前我們掌握的進度來得及在明年在我們要試運行之前完全更新完畢我跟委員報告我們一個原則就是說我如期的前提是如此 |
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我品質一定要．當然當然當然這個品質就是我昨天講那兩個李董跟市長我昨天講的這個是很嚴重的一個弊案你本來要保冷的欸那個天然氣在輸送這個過程裡面零下162度C欸那個不能開玩笑的就你的保冷那個係數不夠 |
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而且你一邊做一邊改那隨時天然氣出來可能這次有爆炸這是很嚴重的事情所以一定要改好不好速度第一個是安全第一個是安全我昨天記者會講的內容一定要改這是一個安全第二個要如期要完成要不然到時候就缺電就斷氣了好我進一步來問這事情經過崔少哲選舉完之後我跟中友還有跟經濟部所知 |
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我們看一下我所知的內容要的是契約書的影印本要是忠友跟陳巴昭往來的公文這個啦你多了三大個喔到現在都沒有給我喔 |
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第一個,你沒有提供企業書的本身,你給我一個什麼保冷的規範,我上網我找就有啊,對不對?第二個也很嚴重,往來公文裡面漏掉兩筆非常關鍵的,包括你們發現問題的公文,你們都把它蓋起來了。第三個,廠商跟台電公文現在不完整,現在本期很清楚,你們現在改善的同時,這三份東西,三天內送到本期辦公室可以嗎? |
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這次有三個很大的廠商第一家 |
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這是日本很大很大的公司耶他負責這次整個接收站的這個設備跟管線的統包最主要是他然後右下角這個這個是韓國的公司他負責提供材料可是你看這張長大的文章出在韓國這間公司該保冷的沒有用了國際上已經蒙特羅議定書裡面已經用了佛立青他竟然也用了這個都要多去追究責任另外中頂負責什麼工程施工的進度的監管包括 |
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另外我要問到目前為止材料造假你們只做了一個處分喔只有做了扣點 |
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欸,這不夠喔!人民一方面要看的是安全,對不對?一方面,如果真的這個廠商有問題的話,我問你,你看他自行抽案不合格的報告,結果你是有擴典罪處罰,人家會不會說你是放水?等一下,有造假紀錄的廠商,你現在要給我找?你第一個,你要不要再找他做? |
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正常是不應該這樣做啦那你現在說這個重大工程那你一定要嚴格監督好不好追究責任嚴格監督而且確保一定安全我們會依據那個企業來執行那這個案子當然我們看到中游的基層員工堅守崗位這應該要加獎啦 |
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要肯定好不好所以今天市長在這邊董事長在這邊我跟你講基層的員工是讓人家感動的他主動去發解問題去解決問題對不對回去要激光要嘉獎要好不好這件事情要做要鼓勵這個好的這個文化中友很好這個文化第二個李董也很重要你現在負責善後 |
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所以次長你在這邊你回去跟部長講如果散落得很好也應該對李董應該是要加獎的好不好我們已經在後續在處理這件事情好來 OK另外一個案子也是非常李董你先請為好 謝謝我在六月五月份開了一個很重要的記者會臺元綠能兩年虧了2.5億那個是我們人民的納稅錢而且那嚴重的是什麼綠油有沒有賺到保現在最新進度是昨天 |
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臺南地檢署三十二路大搜索包括前臺原綠能的董事長陳啟毓跟總經理五個人今天早上最新的進度已經被生壓進鑑了我請董事長現在幫我做幾件事情第一個 把這個 董事長跟這個次長 來做這幾件事情第一個 臺原綠能這個案子裡面到底虧損了多少錢這是我們人民納稅錢 |
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他現在把我們人民納稅錢,左手換右手,透過以少報多,把我們人民納稅錢弄到一粒一粒有有,弄到下游廠商的這個口袋裡面去了,所以現在被生壓進鑑了。可是第一個,請查清楚到目前為止我們人民納稅錢,損失了多少錢。第二個更重要的,你們要提出一個追償的計畫好不好。 |
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這個錢被拿走了嘛,那這不法的事情啊,請把這個錢追回來。第三個,對台演綠領做一個行政調查,目前有做嗎?有沒有做?應該有做,有。有做齁,那什麼時候可以給我?我們之前在那個報告委員,我們之前已經有做過行政調查,我們可以把報告再提供給委員。所以今天就可以送過來了嗎? |
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另外最重要的,最重要就是這個事情要發生,要趕快撲破。所以就要做一些預防措施,你要從製度那邊去改啊。一個禮拜你給我一個報告,包括立法院該怎麼修法,好不好?這個是人民納稅錢不能夠這樣透過一個無軌搬運。 |
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好,我們共同努力,好,謝謝,謝謝主席 |
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連次長錦漳：早。 |
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張委員啓楷：部長今天為什麼又請假？他怎麼了，又倦勤了嗎？ |
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連次長錦漳：沒有啦，因為他有另外要公，有跟…… |
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張委員啓楷：是不幹了，還是怎麼樣？他在院會期間去日本已經被罵了，他怎麼樣？是上禮拜講了要去菲律賓蓋電廠的事情被罵，現在又不來？ |
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主席：他有跟主席請假。 |
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張委員啓楷：今天這個會，我知道主席剛剛有報告，那個會那麼重要嗎？今天有28位立法委員要質詢欸，這輕重緩急……我不要用藐視國會這麼重的話。本來包括賴清德賴總統都講了，你們執政黨的立委或者從政黨員就要來，他不是在挑戰賴清德賴總統嗎？這是不是本來就是部會首長該做的事情？外界會怎麼解讀？次長，你回去跟部長講一下，下次不能再請假了，好不好？下次不能再請假了！ |
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連次長錦漳：好。 |
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張委員啓楷：昨天本席開了一個很重要的記者會，攸關我們電力發展的第三天然氣接收站，它發生了兩個很嚴重的問題，就是它的保冷管線係數不足，第一個，它用了國際上已經禁用的氟氯烴，這個有改進，所以我才把李董找上來，我昨天看起來中油的反應還算是正面的，它很清楚地表示如果這個材質有問題就要換掉，如果是新進的，因為工程現在進行到一半，三接從碼頭到儲存槽1.6公里的管線，目前做了大概50%，有問題的這50%要趕快拆，好不好？不能夠像昨天我開記者會之前問你們的那樣，你們說要邊做邊改，一次改1公尺，穿著西裝改西裝，第一個，速度比較慢；第二個是公安問題，因為天然氣如果漏出來是不得了的事情，所以這個要趕快做。 |
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張委員啓楷：OK！這個一定要做。次長，你有掌握這個進度，對不對？這個事情你有掌握，對不對？ |
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張委員啓楷：我問一下最重要的問題，6月12日我特別問了經濟部部長，所以我才會說他為什麼今天一定要在，因為三接太重要了，結果現在又發現問題，他6月10日跟我講三接在明年4月份一定會建完，我跟他講一定要如期，因為如果不如期，沒有接收站就斷氣了。核三廠2號機明年就停了，5月份要停的話，4月沒有蓋好，他說有把握，經過昨天這個事情，一方面你們已經要改了，包括你、包括中油董事長今天能夠保證三接可以如期在明年4月完成嗎？可不可以？ |
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張委員啓楷：好，所以來得及，下軍令狀，李董是老中油人。 |
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張委員啓楷：當然，品質就是我昨天講的那兩個。李董和次長，我昨天講的這個是很嚴重的弊案，本來是要保冷的，天然氣在輸送過程中是零下162度C，那個不能開玩笑的，結果你的保冷係數不夠，而且你們還要一邊做一邊改，天然氣洩漏出來隨時都有可能爆炸，這是很嚴重的事情，所以一定要改，好不好？ |
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張委員啓楷：第一個是安全，我昨天在記者會上講的內容一定要改，第一個是安全。第二個要如期完成，要不然到時候就缺電、斷氣了。我進一步來問，這個事情經過吹哨者檢舉完之後，我向中油以及經濟部索資，我索資的內容是契約書影印本、中油與承包商往來公文，結果你這三大個到現在都沒有給我，第一個，你沒有提供契約書的本身，你給我一個什麼保冷規範，這個部分我上網找就有了。第二個也很嚴重，往來公文裡面漏掉兩筆非常關鍵的文件，包括你們發現問題的公文，你們都把它蓋起來了。第三個，廠商與台電的公文不完整，本席講得很清楚，在你們現在要改善的同時，這三份東西3天內送到本席辦公室，可以嗎？趕快把它補起來補破網，好不好？ |
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李董事長順欽：跟委員報告，因為這是統包，所以裡面我們有能夠提供的，我們絕對會提供給委員參考。 |
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張委員啓楷：儘快，3天內。然後進一步現在要做的是什麼事情，責任一定要追究清楚，這次有三個很大的廠商，第一家是JFE，這是日本很大很大的公司，它負責這次整個接收站設備及管線的統包，最主要是它；右下角這個是韓國公司，它負責提供材料。可是你看這次最大的問題都出在韓國這間公司，該保冷的沒有，還用了國際上「蒙特婁議定書」已經禁用的氟氯烴，它竟然也用了，這個都要去追究責任。另外，中鼎負責工程施工進度的監管，包括PIR材料驗收和檢測，責任都要追清楚，好不好？ |
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李董事長順欽：好。 |
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張委員啓楷：李董，3天內把他們該負的責任、施工進度……一個禮拜內給我，好不好？ |
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李董事長順欽：是。 |
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張委員啓楷：另外，到目前為止，材料造假，你們只做了一個處分，只有做了扣點，這樣不夠，人民一方面要看的是安全，一方面如果這個廠商真的有問題的話，它自行抽換不合格的報告，結果你只有扣點處罰，人家會不會說你是放水？第二個，有造假紀錄的廠商你還要讓它做嗎？第一個，你要不要再讓它做？正常是不應該讓它做了，這是重大工程，你一定要嚴格監督，好不好？追究責任、嚴格監督，而且確保一定安全。 |
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李董事長順欽：我們會依據契約來執行。 |
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張委員啓楷：這個案子我們也看到中油的基層員工堅守崗位，這應該要嘉獎、要肯定，好不好？今天次長在這邊、董事長也在這邊，基層的員工是讓人家感動的，他主動去發覺問題、解決問題，回去要記功嘉獎，這個事情要做，要鼓勵這個好的文化，中油很好的這個文化。第二個，李董也很重要，你現在要負責善後，次長回去跟部長講，如果善後得很好，對李董應該是要嘉獎的，好不好？ |
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連次長錦漳：有，我們後續已經在處理這件事情了。 |
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張委員啓楷：另外一個案子，我在5月份開了一個很重要的記者會，台鹽綠能兩年虧了2.5億，那都是我們人民的納稅錢，而且嚴重的是什麼？綠友友們賺到飽。現在最新的進度是昨天臺南地檢署32路大搜索，包括前台鹽綠能董事長陳啟昱及總經理等5個人，今天早上最新的進度是已經被聲押禁見。我要請董事長、次長幫我做幾件事情，第一個，台鹽綠能這個案子裡面到底虧損了多少錢？這是我們人民的納稅錢，它現在把我們人民納稅錢左手換右手，透過以少報多，把我們人民納稅錢弄到綠友友、弄到下游廠商的口袋裡面去了，所以現在被聲押禁見，第一個，請查清楚到目前為止，我們人民納稅錢損失了多少錢。第二個更重要，你們要提出一個追償計畫，這個錢被拿走了，這是不法的事情，請把這個錢追回來，好不好？第三個，對台鹽綠能做行政調查，目前有做嗎？有沒有做？ |
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連次長錦漳：應該有做。 |
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張委員啓楷：什麼時候可以給我？ |
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劉副司長起孝：報告委員，我們之前已經有做過行政調查，我們可以把報告再提供給委員。 |
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張委員啓楷：所以今天就可以送過來了嗎？今天下午拿過來。 |
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連次長錦漳：讓他們整理一下，3天啦。 |
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張委員啓楷：好，3天。次長，最重要的就是這個事情已經發生了，所以要趕快補破網，要做一些預防措施，你要從制度面去改，一個禮拜內你給我一個報告，包括立法院該怎麼修法，人民納稅錢不能夠這樣透過五鬼搬運，搬到某些不法廠商和集團的手上去，好不好？至少2.5億、3億喔！ |
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連次長錦漳：這個案子也是我們主動提給調查局調查的。 |
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張委員啓楷：所以一定要做。沒有，一開始是我們開記者會，對不對？ |
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連次長錦漳：我們112年…… |
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張委員啓楷：去年陳琬惠立委就提了，後來跟國昌又開了記者會，我們共同努力來解決問題，人民納稅錢不能這樣流出。第二個，更重要的是制度面要怎麼預防，提出一個報告，我們共同努力，好不好？ |
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連次長錦漳：好。 |
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張委員啓楷：謝謝，謝謝主席。 |
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主席：下一位請謝衣鳯委員質詢。 |
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52 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-2-19-7 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
邱志偉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林岱樺 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
邱議瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
張嘉郡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
張啓楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
謝衣鳯 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
呂玉玲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
陳亭妃 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
鄭正鈐 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
蔡易餘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
賴瑞隆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
牛煦庭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
王鴻薇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
洪孟楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
廖偉翔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
陳超明 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
1 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-10-23 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1138702 |
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1138702_00002 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
一、邀請經濟部首長、環境部首長就「我國碳費徵收機制對產業衝擊之影響評估，及政府協助企
業因應之配套措施」進行報告，並備質詢；二、邀請經濟部首長、環境部首長、財政部首長就
「我國碳邊境調整機制（CBAM）推動規劃」進行報告，並備質詢 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1138702_00001 |
| IVOD_ID |
155912 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/155912 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-7 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
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委員會 |
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19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
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Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-23T09:53:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-23T10:03:16+08:00 |
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