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主席、各位委員、有請部長。請彭部長。委員早。部長好。 |
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《最後變遷因應法》第一條訂的很清楚落實世代正義、環境正義及公正轉型不論是我們原住民族在台灣一直守護我們的森林所以我們一直善盡的保護台灣環境的責任 |
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我們看這個氣候變遷因應法的第3條．碳匯只將二氧化碳或其他溫室氣體自排放演化大氣中持續移除或吸收或儲存之樹木、森林、土壤 |
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海洋地產設施或長守所以這個部分我們不要忘了這個部分然後第11款也提到什麼叫公正轉型這裡面也特別提到 |
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沿逐民主的穩定的轉型所以這個部分要請當初千惡變遷因應法本席要提出草案當然有幾條條文是有通過但是也有沒有通過的部分是我們未來要繼續努力的地方千惡變遷因應法第5條政府應秉持 |
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120.881 |
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133.174 |
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減緩與調適並種植原者,確保國土資源永續利用。這裡面也特別要兼顧原住民族的權益。所以這個部分,這個我們看這個整個 |
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161.382 |
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《氣候變遷因應法》第5條也特別提到相關的這些推動自然碳匯政府應以援助民主共同推動及管理援助民主第7次自然碳匯所以這樣的一個前提之下我們看這個我們看這次的整個 |
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192.706 |
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有關碳費所以你們在估算60億的碳費收入60億這樣的一個碳費收入我剛念了這麼多原住民族的條款原住民族對整個碳費的貢獻但是這個基金 |
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221.222 |
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會用到原住民族嗎?這個後年年終才會正式的收到所以我們預計大概是明年會開始會組成這個委員會會來討論這個基金的用途這個部長基金的用途訂得很清楚當初本席有提案但是沒有被接受被碾壓表決沒有通過 |
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所以這裡面完全沒有完全沒有原住民族的部分但是也不是不能做還是可以畢竟這裡面補助給地方政府地方政府要怎麼去用怎麼樣在裡面的相關的這些 |
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規定裡面去致應可以往這個方向去努力嗎?委員這個第3條就是補助中央目的事業主管機關執行溫馨體減量工作的事項那原民如果森林碳會的部分的話可以透過這3項我們來補助給原民會來處理如果這個項目的話當然有這個項目我剛剛不是講了很多嗎?我們相關的條文 |
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也都有提到我們很多這個原住民族在這個包括相關第17條都有這個相關的這些所以這個部分要請這個環境部事實上農業部講得很清楚農業部講得很清楚 |
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325.136 |
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沿著民主所附的山林當然現在我們的環境部的方向就是說怎麼樣去收這個錢然後這個收的錢當然各有各的論點到底這個60億到底算不算多當然這是第一次也經過相關的這些程序來辦理但是就整個 |
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326.99 |
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好,謝謝鄭天財委員 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:44:32 - 11:50:28 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、經濟部就「台灣的碳費收費標準決議」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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866 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（11時44分）主席、各位委員，有請部長。 |
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主席：請彭部長。 |
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彭部長啓明：委員早。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。氣候變遷因應法第一條訂得很清楚，落實世代正義、環境正義及公正轉型，這個部分是我們原住民族在臺灣一直守護了我們的森林，所以我們善盡保護臺灣環境的責任。我們看氣候變遷因應法的第三條，碳匯：指將二氧化碳或其他溫室氣體自排放源或大氣中持續移除後，吸收或儲存之樹木、森林、土壤、海洋、地層、設施或場所。所以我們不要忘了這個部分。然後第十一款也提到什麼叫公正轉型，這裡面也特別提到原住民族的穩定轉型，當初氣候變遷因應法本席也有提出草案，當然有幾條條文是有通過，但是也有沒有通過的部分，這是我們未來要繼續努力的地方。氣候變遷因應法第五條，政府應秉持減緩與調適並重之原則，確保國土資源永續利用，這裡面也特別要兼顧原住民族的權益。氣候變遷因應法第五條也特別提到推動自然碳匯，政府應與原住民族共同推動及管理原住民族地區之自然碳匯。所以在這樣的前提之下，我們看這一次的碳費要收……你們估算有60億的碳費收入，對不對？60億，這樣的一個碳費收入，我剛唸了這麼多原住民族的條款及原住民族對整個碳費的貢獻，但是這個基金會用到原住民族嗎？ |
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彭部長啓明：報告委員，這個後年年中才會正式的收到，所以我們預計大概是明年會開始組成委員會來討論這個基金的用途。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長，基金的用途訂得很清楚，當初本席有提案，但是沒有被接受，被輾壓，表決沒有通過，所以這裡面完全沒有原住民族的部分。但也不是不能做，還是可以，畢竟這裡面補助給地方政府，地方政府要怎麼去用，怎麼樣在你們相關的這些規定裡面去支應，可以往這個方向去努力嗎？ |
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彭部長啓明：對，委員，第三條就是補助中央目的事業主管機關執行溫室氣體減量工作的事項，至於森林碳匯的部分可以透過這三項，我們來補助給原民會處理。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以這個…… |
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彭部長啓明：如果有這個項目的話，應該…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：當然有這個項目，我剛剛不是講了很多嗎？相關的條文也都有提到原住民族，包括第十七條都有相關的規定，所以這部分要請環境部……事實上農業部講得很清楚，原住民族守護山林，而現在環境部的方向就是怎麼樣去收這個錢，對於這個收的錢當然各有各的論點，到底這60億算不算多？當然，這是第一次，也經過相關的程序辦理，但整個原住民族對碳費的貢獻是不可抹滅的，所以這個部分要請環境部在訂定比較細的相關規定時，就誠如剛剛部長所講的，地方政府在執行的時候要怎麼把它列入考量，好不好？ |
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彭部長啓明：好，謝謝。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭委員天財發言。 |
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接下來請賴士葆委員發言。 |
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132 |
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委員會-11-2-26-3 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
黃秀芳 |
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陳昭姿 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
林月琴 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
王育敏 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
廖偉翔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
邱鎮軍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
蘇清泉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
盧縣一 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
劉建國 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
王正旭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
涂權吉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
陳菁徽 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
柯志恩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
高金素梅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
王鴻薇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
牛煦庭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[19] |
洪申翰 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[20] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[21] |
張啓楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[22] |
廖先翔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[23] |
羅智強 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[24] |
張智倫 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[25] |
林淑芬 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[26] |
洪孟楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[27] |
楊曜 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[28] |
黃健豪 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[29] |
賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[30] |
陳瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[31] |
葉元之 |
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1 |
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2024-10-14 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1138301 |
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1138301_00002 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請環境部部長、經濟部就「台灣的碳費收費標準決議」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
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1138301_00001 |
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2024-10-14 |
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| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
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2024-10-14T11:44:32+08:00 |
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2024-10-14T11:50:28+08:00 |
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