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謝謝主席謝謝副總召那麼各位先進大家早安大家好有請人事長以及書發部的薛次長以及國科會的陳副主委有請人事長薛次長還有陳副主委各位長官因為我時間很短我就問幾個簡單的問題請問你們知不知道或者就請問幾位長官包括各單位的 |
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有跟CHAT的GPT付錢去用CHAT的GPT問他事情的舉手好不好 有沒有都有嗎 後面都有嗎請問你們付幾塊錢的付幾塊錢的啊這裡有行情 20塊美金以下的舉手 免費的 |
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你付多少?我們是買token的概念,我們是用團體的,萬二十五萬,一年三十萬一年三十萬?一天可以用三百的還有還有,其他人會長官呢?蘇巴部的?蘇巴部沒有買,我自己沒有使用你們沒有使用?國共會勒? |
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我們是用來做學術研究用途我現在是個人在用各位長官知道嗎當你來我請你看第一張我查了一下從8月22號到26號政府機關5天連線簽了GPD總共29萬餘次我要講什麼東西他講得非常清楚他就說如果你是20塊美金以下的 |
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你要把資料給他他要用你的資料就是我們不斷地用CHAT GPT就不斷地有政府的資料留在他手上他就會訓練在使用簡單來講就是政府相關的資料因為你們的使用CHAT GPT特別人事總署這裡還說整個是買團體的哇 這樣整個都去啊 |
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我們國家的資料國家的安全的問題資安的問題就呈現了我們國家的政府的機關的資料呼就送過去了然後他就訓練就用我們台灣政府的相關的單位的資料在裡面供他訓練所以這裡面就是無意當中我們因為你們的使用CHAT的GPT |
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已經把我們已經有資安洩漏的問題出來了我們現在放在銀端的都是公開資料啦open data本來就是政府資訊公開來符合的資料本來就要放在上面所以跟那個我們比較confidential的這個部分就沒有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
185.796 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
198.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
你只能講你個人的阿你團體使用你怎麼知道你們底下的人他把什麼資料去問他呢你怎麼知道他問什麼呢那是你阿你也許講說你本來知道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
200.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
227.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
他上面的是屬於公開資料,另外我們有用地端的,有些資料是不能對外公開的,我們就放在地端,沒有放在雲端,我們有做這樣的差別嗎?吉同家講,我現在是講說,你自己可以這樣子做,可是你底下的人,他不知道啊!你底下的人怎麼用你知道嗎?他應該問一下,啊我現在這個放假的問題你給我回答一下,他就跟你回答,你們資料就出去了,怎麼沒有呢?對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
231.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
232.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
你沒辦法保證啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
252.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
275.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
這張喔 或是我剛才說的兩項啦 一個雲端的就是開放資料 阿如果在地端就是不可以我出去網購的來 你還是沒有回答問題的齁 時間快到了所以我不再問你了 來我們書畫部的齁AI資料的進出可以不可以管制 當我們政府機關去跟AI 比如說CHAT的GBT 裡面有互動的時候 我們有沒有辦法管制我們的職涵 有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
276.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
這個在目前的各部會的指引裡面因為行政院頒布的指引裡面就有規定機敏資料不能上去那所以現在是用指引的方法各部會訂指引的方法先做這樣的處理然後速發部這邊呢我們在做評測的時候會針對這個大型語言模型的資安跟他有沒有竊取你的資料去做評測那必須是評測過了以後我們才會放你沒有沒有評估了哪些AI可用哪些AI不能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
307.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
308.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
目前這個評測中心已經評測了幾個幾個不可以有人跟我們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
314.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
339.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
我看到資安比較好的應該是那個拉瑪拉瑪3.0的資安非常好那其他很多都沒有到達滿分CHECK的GPT不好?CHECK的GPT因為他剛剛就是委員講的他免費的版本他會收你的資料所以如果你用付費的版本像剛剛人事總處他用付費的版本他是不能收你的資料的 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
340.171 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
348.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
沒有沒有我再強調一個20塊錢美金20塊錢以下的資安都很可能露出去了20塊錢以上的相對好一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
349.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
349.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:46 - 11:27:05 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院人事行政總處人事長暨相關部會列席就「政府機關導入AI提升效能」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
| IVOD_ID |
155426 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/155426 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-4 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-14T11:20:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-14T11:27:05+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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