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謝謝主席 有請我們人事長還有我們數位部今天來的次長請蘇人事長跟薛次長委員長人事長 次長我今天早上我坐在那個地方仔細聆聽我從台北市當議員到屏東到台東我聽了你們今天講這個議題我感觸很深我先放給你一個影片我昨天去的給你看 |
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臺鐵董事長斷掌傳郎劉兄平 |
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傳來的告訴我 我都創好了創好了我告訴我 我們兩個說的所在不一樣這叫做什麼 你們說AIAI就是要精簡嘛人要看我們這麼簡單利用機器 利用科技減少人力的一個浪費讓民眾有更便利性工人員辦起事情來更順利然後讓老百姓沒有厭圓AI不那麼好 |
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這就拿到社會本地我剛才有去我剛才去到現場我剛才是要看榮舜我看過榮舜阿台南匯鐵路在那裏沒有走來看要不要繳收這就行這就行你給AI也不好 |
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但是我要先感謝啦 我要先感謝就是說那個人事長對於臺東這一次啊 整個國產署人力的一個不足應該要補30億的 齁那當然 人精膽 跟心碎跟體育有那個誘因 留住公務人員有那個咳嗽 不能辦事你以為我 台東遇到的跟他現在南島 中華遇到的他現在不是AI的問題啊現在是欠咳嗽的問題啊 |
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所以我今天在聽就有對我來講很大的衝擊啦我不是說AI內閣不好我不是說整個政府把它數位化不好但是那個面向太廣啦政府的施政有太多的一個地方就這就要緊緊啦對吧 涉及到公共安全人要去嘛 勤災要去嘛你家住不夠了 地方很多為什麼會承包都會比較慢 |
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但是這個喊了幾年我期待可以落實但是呢 |
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政府的施政有太多的方面了要檢討的地方還是很多啦那我特別感謝的就是說你那個三年的限制解除掉以後啊就地方政府或者說我們各個部會裡面用人你說約聘的來 三年來就那個國安署你就知道來了三年那工夫是多好啊 你知道嗎你說三年了不要再請了 嘿!把你丟在地方政府水球裡 人有夠好人 |
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所以你就造成很多施政上我們很多人才就沒有辦法繼續留用所以這次把它解除這個限制啊 |
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表示非常大的贊同跟感謝啦 齁 也是定義改革問題你至少要先讓老百姓沒有怨言你政府施政才有辦法去便利嘛 更順暢嘛 可不是這樣說那所以呢 我們這一次除了補充人力以外 這一次我看賴總統去強調了這個整個那個科技數位島跟數位的新社會 著手那個AI的戰略的一個發展我相信那個目標也是一樣 但是我要請教的就是說 |
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你像比如說一般國考進來除了你有特別的資訊專長以外你說期待公務人員找很多時間去上很多課或者說讓他們上網自己去學習啊我不知道說這個的誘因夠不夠在我們公務人員繁忙之外可以讓他去多加學習新的技能我不知道社長還是人事長你們有什麼樣的想法 |
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謝謝委員這個問題啦 我想齁 某種的改動 我們的做法就是 呃 頂 呃 兩倍前齁 有委員在請教一個問題 是不是公布另外 我們有20點鐘的學習 有10點鐘的必修 那我們現在跟蘇阿波在討論 呃 就是從明年1月1號開始 我們在10個鐘頭的必修的 每一個人都要去修1或2個鐘頭 |
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市長 |
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人事長剛才這樣說 說你們大家都去上課 增加這些誘因幾個小時我問你們數位部 你們北部 中部 南部都有嘛 對不對東部沒有 中部沒有有沒有 中部沒有 東部也沒有是嘛 我要跟你說的就是這樣 人事長你說的好 全國 |
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大家來上課學習我也是跟他說你東部你又欠你這個怎麼辦像你這個怎麼辦我們在說我們常常在說整個政府裡面要把數位政府裡面大家都會拿新加坡來當一個標竿 |
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主席 |
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市長,請問一下,第一個大部分的課程是線上的那東部呢,我們也有一些課程是到各地去開專班那如果有需要的話,我們也可以到東部去開專班所以你第一個想到的是,我從你們的配置裡面,你第一個想到的就是東部不需要阿?阿不然他還沒的? |
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不要啦 別這樣啦 這樣也用批評啦你再唱 國民黨就來教啊 我跟你講你再唱 政府施政真的不能這樣因為我現在都要認兩頁 我對政客喔 如果有那些女政客都要給我選中你知道嗎但是總是要為那個地方來做一個發聲 你要均衡嘛 你要均衡嘛你公務人員的人力 其實數值都很高但是因為你中央一個決策這樣下去以後 人家覺得我們這裡是 |
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法外之地這不對啊這不對我是覺得蘇衛部這個地方要檢討這樣的一個政策裡面不夠周延我們會回去處理今天啦今天要處理啦那其實喔我一直會覺得說 |
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你若說西部有這樣的一個規劃其實你要去考量到東部公務人員他去上課他去學習這樣的一個便利性阿不然你覺得叫台東叫法輪的公務人員你找來台北你知不知道台東到台北一個字牆號要幾點鐘台東要差不多5點鐘至6點鐘4點40分鐘 |
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但是呢 那個火車站不是在臺東縣政府這樣走出來就可以搭上火車啦也要單車一下 要買車票那到火車站 你們訓練的地方也不會設在臺北火車站嘛所以光那個車程往返都十幾個小時啦那你也要創造 你們不能一個政策出來都製造的都是其他地方的一個沒有不便利性啊我認為這樣就不對了啦 |
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那我接下來 那個 次長請回阿 這個不能開玩笑好不好齁 次長我要請教你就是說 現在大家在講 阿不不不 那個人事長齁 人事長次長請回 就是說 這次 大家在講 體育署會升格這個問題你從你的嘴巴裡面 你都很不喜歡講升格 我就覺得很奇怪阿就是說 不管啦 不管你認為那到底是不是升格啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
人事總署對於體育部未來人力的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
585.956 |
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我委員報告喔,不是給我們給一些而已,那是一個專心的部會,所以人力在編制上、在人力上,它是一個全新的思考不過有一件事情我們會先處理,本來體育署、學校體育教育的體育場館在做的那裡,那裡有一個組,那裡的組長、副組長那裡的人大概十幾個,會算過來 |
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主席 |
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626.817 |
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我告訴你啊 你一百三十五 你說要給一個百五你要考慮到一個問題啦 原來體育署的業務 然後又要回到教育部人又再唱回去 這個不是加減乘除的問題啦 |
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你在整個我們現在目前教育部那個本部原額是567人喔公務預算原額是1540喔對不對?1540還多多的以教育部本身目前的預算原額是489位阿不然你給我加 |
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運動部成立,人差不多存多少?你說135,你再給他150,教育部還要拿一些回去,你每個月也存200多塊?教育部拿十幾個回去而已?對,拿十幾個回去而已。那你的預估,假設下個月運動部成立,假設,假設,你認為他緣合是多少?人手?人手我真的要再看... 少不得嘛,就簡單嘛,現在135嘛?對。135你說要再補100多嘛? |
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是 我的意思就是說那你原來隸屬在教育部的這些人他教育部又把你拿走嘛 你還是要扣掉嘛 |
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你若要報一百個到時候你後裔的絕對不會一百個嘛你說十個嗎?你如果請假你也只剩九十而已啊對啊九十啊 剩下不敢我怎麼報後裔啊這樣你兩百多個人真的可以變成一個部?我 委員報告 第一個改端說真的啦我們一個新的部會給我們成立喔一群要到編制研核 假設三百個 不可能一群就三百個那差不多要兩天到三天 |
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但是我今天重點我要結束啦 喔 抱歉就是說我們今天在講說AI政府啦 齁 要把它給數位化啦其實談到的都是在講人事 其實另外一涵是人事上的一個精簡啦但是你有多少部會 是缺人欸海巡你欠人 警察你欠人 機站要勘察你要欠人齁 你說我要去匯勘的 我要去套土的 我這些都要人工來的 |
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我這人工不是人工智慧我都認為這個很衝突的概念所以你們要考慮清楚啦不是這樣在大家辦公室講講會講後來AI內閣我們全部以後都導入AI我們各組織我們來授聲 |
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另外一邊就 底下就跟你喊 我沒人 我沒人 我欠人 我工作做不出來 老百姓在那邊幹架要面面具具到 不要開玩笑先抹而後凍 要做一個決策出來之後 絕對不能去因為一個決策 到最後 你要的 大家會認為說 啊你不是說 政府不是要去新加坡結果咧 咳 擠開了之後 人 不欠 尤其是身體人 又欠 |
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那個民間的反撲特別要小心好不好謝謝委員謝謝莊委員 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:04:24 - 10:18:25 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院人事行政總處人事長暨相關部會列席就「政府機關導入AI提升效能」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
| IVOD_ID |
155410 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/155410 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-4 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-14T10:04:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-14T10:18:25+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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