| IVOD_ID |
155310 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/155310 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-09T11:20:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-09T11:28:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
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好來請我們邱志偉謝謝主席請農業部陳部長來請部長部長第一個問題請教你我們要怎麼樣優化我們對天然災害的這個補助的政策那目前山坨的颱風大概農損大概有4億多目前 |
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統計起來,農損大約4億多。當然包括行政院,包括我們地方縣市首長都希望能夠用現金救助。但是你現在按照現行的規定,同歷年,今年,你來形成一次現金的步驟,是不是這樣? |
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主席 |
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那蔬菜產期大概是?大概一個月啦!平均短期葉栽類大概一個月啦!那意思是說不受同歷年的限制?對!只有長期作物現在是?比如說這次的台灣跟上次的海米相隔大概兩個月,對不對?同樣受到農作物同樣受到重創,這種狀況之下他能夠這個請你兩次先進補助嗎?他如果是短期葉栽類是可以的! |
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長期作物的特別是大家關心的是長期的果樹的部分但是他四季都有生產啊對但是他遇到了以後當初我們的天然栽培救助的設計是 |
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邱志偉議員 |
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是不是可以放寬現金補助的那個標準?我跟委員我們正在研議齁那大原則是我們可以開放可以跨年以前是歷年嘛齁可以跨年但是還是會維持一個產業我舉個例子荔枝好了那荔枝6、7月齁接了以後大概他有特定的產季嘛對嘛 |
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阿這個產季過了以後阿這個產季過了以後阿這個產季過了以後阿這個產季過了以後阿這個產季過了以後阿這個產季過了以後阿這個產季過了以後 |
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一個月之內提出一個比較明確的方案是不是檢討現金這個補助的標準跟次數讓所有農民都能夠了解我覺得應該要重憂一個原則重憂 |
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農業時間定價新制反中期是今年底到期有沒有相關的配套措施 |
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水電費應該是由政府來... |
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農業部跟經濟部再去協調一下我們不管他電價有沒有浮動有沒有下跡或是什麼的我們對農業用電部分吼我們有一個優惠的那個價差的一個補貼會編到我們的公務預算 |
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議員議員議員 |
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第三個問題,糧食自給率啊,糧食自給率的部分啊,這個你看這個拜登也神經結束強化糧食以農業安全的內心,這是國家安全的一個重要的政策,對不對?那我們糧食安全的自給率目前還是偏低啊,所以目前你一個有一個推動小組,你應該要跟最起碼跟這個美國跟日本韓國來看齊,我們現在糧食自給率是多少?只有33.5對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
322.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
323.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
應該是30.7然後今年度可能變成30.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
340.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
356.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
我想我們設有短通長期目標也跟委員說明我們現在糧食之旅被拉下來最主要是飼料用的玉米跟大豆90%大概96%都是進口的那相對的我們的主要的稻米超過100%水產也超過100% |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
360.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
375.283 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
特殊的這個農產品我們是沒有問題的但是你要整個從全盤的概念來看我是覺得這個整體的糧食自給還有提高的空間我是覺得你們是不是要一段時間要提出糧食安全白皮書 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
376.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
380.251 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
農業保險的效能除了強制性的保險之外我們的從109完成立法之後開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
405.821 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
413.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
上升之後一直到今年又下降所以到整體的覆蓋率還不高覆蓋率扣除強制性保險只有17.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
415.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
436.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
特別是農作物這個跟這個漁產的覆蓋率相對比較偏低我們怎麼樣去加強農業保險的這個效能然後增加投保率增加投保意願這點很重要我想謝謝委員這個部分我也注意到而且我也要求農金署這邊重新檢討農業保險到底有一些保險率一直非常低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
437.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
464.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
那我們所了解就是說本身的這些理賠的價格不符合農民的預期啦然後保費的部分雖然說有補助可是你理賠的價格我們用什麼樣的誘因再去刺激誘因才有意願嘛我知道那你整個產品的設計也要符合他們的需求了解這點很重要有一部分是屬於商業保險的部分我們會再跟商業保險公司來談因為農業扛這個綠能的責任是多少要達到多少目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
465.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
481.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
農業20GB綠能就是20GB目前達成率是多少現在目前達成率大概我們現在是3.74我們農業部負責的大概是9GB你要去檢討為什麼會達成率那麼低問題處理對我時間關係我做教育要準經準時我要以身作則 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
493.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
495.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
請農業部提交書面資料給我 謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:32.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:34.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席，請農業部陳部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:34.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:35.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:35.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:36.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
召委好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:35.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:47.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
部長，第一個問題請教你，我們要怎麼樣優化對天然災害補助的政策？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:48.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:55.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
目前山陀兒颱風的農損大概有四億多，目前統計起來農損大概四億多。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.793 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:55.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:57.118500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
對，那是速報的結果。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:57.118500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2024-10-09T11:20:58.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
好，速報的結果。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2024-10-09T11:20:58.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:02.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
當然包括行政院，包括我們地方縣市首長都希望能夠用現金救助，沒有錯嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.844 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:05.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:12.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
但是按照現行的規定，同曆年，一年可以申請一次現金補助，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.724 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:12.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:17.191250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
在同一個產期，長期作物的話…… |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:17.191250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:21.940500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
同一個曆年是怎麼算？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:21.940500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:26.689750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
同一個曆年是一年還是…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:26.689750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:31.439000+08:00 |
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不是，我舉一個例子，蔬菜差不多21天，一個月一次，他下次再種的話，如果遇到天災就可以來領，就是同一個產期。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:31.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:33.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
蔬菜產期大概是20…… |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:34.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:35.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
大概一個月啦！平均。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:35.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:36.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
一個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:36.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:37.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
好，假設…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:35.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:37.241000+08:00 |
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短期葉菜類差不多一個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:37.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:41.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
意思就是不受同曆年的限制？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:41.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:42.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
受產期的限制？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:41.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:43.262000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
只有長期作物現在是…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:43.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:53.564000+08:00 |
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比方，這次的颱風跟上次凱米相隔大概兩個月農作物同樣受到重創，這種狀況之下，他能夠請領兩次現金補助嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.848 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:53.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:55.245000+08:00 |
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他如果是種短期葉菜類，是可以的。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:55.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-10-09T11:21:57.567000+08:00 |
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除了短期葉菜類，還有哪些？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-10-09T11:21:57.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-10-09T11:22:01.252000+08:00 |
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長期作物的，大家特別關心的是長期的果樹部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:01.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-10-09T11:22:02.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
譬如說香蕉呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:02.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-10-09T11:22:03.252000+08:00 |
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香蕉就不行。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:03.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-10-09T11:22:06.379000+08:00 |
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但是它四季都有生產啊！ |
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0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:07.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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2024-10-09T11:22:11.446000+08:00 |
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對，但是它遇到了以後，當初我們天然災害救助的設計是它受損的時候那一整年，以它生產成本裡面的20%左右去補。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.426 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:11.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
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2024-10-09T11:22:44.423000+08:00 |
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我覺得這應該從優從寬認定，包括香蕉、番石榴、蜜棗、木瓜、蓮霧，基本上目前都是全年可以生產，不過它有盛產期，所以如果按照這種極端氣候發生，極端氣候大概是風災，風災大概是每年4月也許到11月，這半年的時間，是不是可以放寬現金補助的標準？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.14 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:44.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-10-09T11:22:54.726000+08:00 |
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我們正在研議，大原則是我們可以開放跨年，以前是曆年，可以跨年但是還是會維持一個產期。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-10-09T11:22:54.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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2024-10-09T11:22:59.507000+08:00 |
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我舉一個例子，荔枝好了，荔枝6、7月結了以後…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:00.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
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2024-10-09T11:23:01.288000+08:00 |
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我知道，荔枝有特定的產季嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:01.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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2024-10-09T11:23:02.568000+08:00 |
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對，這個產季過了以後…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:02.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:08.515250+08:00 |
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比如，它有全年生產的，全年生產的水果類也很多，全年都是產季的水果也不少，如果同時碰到兩次、三次的風災，現在按照規定只能領一次。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.035 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:08.515250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:14.462500+08:00 |
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我覺得你們要從農民的角度去考慮，他們投入很多的生產成本，是不是能夠把整個補助制度放寬到兩次、三次？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.022 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:14.462500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:20.409750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
委員的建議我們會記錄下來，針對特定的，它是一年四季都生產的部分，看要怎麼去處理啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.027 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:20.409750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:26.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
因為每一次受天災…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:26.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:30.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
好，我希望是不是一個月之內提出一個比較明確的方案，檢討現今的補助標準和次數，讓所有農民都能夠瞭解？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.756 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:30.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:31.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
我覺得應該要從優，一個原則從優，從優從寬認定。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:31.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:40.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我們會儘快，因為我們現在一併在處理那個金額的提高，所以我們會儘快。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:40.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:48.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
好，我還有兩分半。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:48.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:49.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
農業時間電價新制緩衝期是今年底到期，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-10-09T11:23:49.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-10-09T11:23:51.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
今年底到期，有沒有相關的配套措施？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:10.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:11.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
相關的水電費應該是由政府來…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:11.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:15.781600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
今年底到期之後，大概有幾萬戶？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:15.781600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:19.916200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
農業用電戶大概1萬戶喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:19.916200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:24.050800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
1萬戶左右。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:24.050800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:28.185400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
其中包括很多養殖漁業。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:28.185400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:32.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這個部分，我覺得農漁業用電都凍漲，如果這個緩衝期結束，你會用到新的時間電價新制，這會變成是變相的漲電價，所以這部分是不是請農業部跟經濟部再去協調一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.188 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:32.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:38.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
不管電價有沒有浮動，有沒有夏季或是什麼的，我們對農業用電部分有一個優惠，有一個價差的補貼，會編到我們的公務預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.922 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:38.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:42.946900+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
所以即便是這個緩衝期年底屆期，還是不會受到電價波動影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:42.946900+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:46.949800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
不會，我們明年編列了24億預算，就是處理萬一…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:46.949800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:50.952700+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我說結論啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:50.952700+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:54.955600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
你今年年底到期，在電價新制緩衝期之後，他用新的電價機制，他會不會增加成本？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:54.955600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-10-09T11:24:58.958500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
他所增加的成本由農業部編預算來吸收。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-10-09T11:24:58.958500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:02.961400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
所以不會增加額外的成本，是這樣子嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:02.961400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:06.964300+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
要說清楚耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:06.964300+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:10.967200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
就是價差我們會來吸收。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:10.967200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:14.970100+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
價差由農業部來吸收。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:14.970100+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:18.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
我們來吸收，對。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:18.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:32.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
好，第三個問題是糧食自給率，糧食自給率的部分，你看拜登也曾經簽署「強化糧食與農業安全及韌性」國家安全備忘錄，這就是國家安全一個重要的政策，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.738 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:32.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:44.744000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
我們糧食安全的自給率目前還是偏低，所以目前你應該有一個推動小組，最起碼跟日本、韓國來看齊，我們現在糧食自給率是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:44.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:45.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
只有33.5%，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:45.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:46.182500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
沒有錯吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:46.182500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:47.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
日本可以到…… |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:47.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-10-09T11:25:48.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
應該是30.7%，然後今年度可能變成30.4%。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-10-09T11:25:48.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-10-09T11:26:06.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
這樣跟韓國、日本還差得很遠，日本、韓國是41%、45%，你要有短中長期的目標，怎麼樣能夠把糧食自給率提高，這點很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-10-09T11:26:06.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-10-09T11:26:21.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
我們設有短中長期目標，也跟委員說明，我們現在糧食自給率被拉下來，最主要是飼料用的玉米和大豆大概96%都是進口的，相對的，我們主要的稻米超過百分之百，水產也超過百分之百。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.827 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-10-09T11:26:25.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-10-09T11:26:40.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
特殊的農產品我們是沒有問題，但是你要從全盤的概念來看，我覺得整體的糧食自給率還有提高的空間，你們是不是一段時間要提出糧食安全白皮書？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-10-09T11:26:40.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2024-10-09T11:26:41.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
包括要怎麼做，你的目標值多少。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-10-09T11:26:41.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-10-09T11:26:42.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
好，跟委員說明，我們可以每一年度的時候發表整個糧食安全的數據，數據是最基本的，還有就是我們年度的推動作為，我想我們可以公布。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-10-09T11:26:42.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-10-09T11:26:43.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
好，你們要年度，還要設定目標。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-10-09T11:26:41.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-10-09T11:27:31.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
第四個問題就是農業保險的效能，農業保險除了強制性的保險之外，我們從109年完成立法之後，投保件數開始上升，一直到今年又下降，所以它整體的覆蓋率還不高，覆蓋率如果扣除強制性保險只有17.3%，特別是農作物跟漁產的覆蓋率相對比較偏低，我們怎麼樣去加強農業保險的效能，然後增加投保率，增加投保意願，這點很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.851 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-10-09T11:27:32.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-10-09T11:27:52.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
謝謝委員，這個部分我也注意到，而且我們也要求農金署這邊重新檢討農業保險有一些保險率一直非常低的，就我們所瞭解，本身的這些理賠價格不符合農民的預期，保費的部分雖然有補助，可是理賠的價格…… |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.965 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-10-09T11:27:52.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-10-09T11:27:54.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
誘因看看是不是還可以加強。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-10-09T11:27:54.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-10-09T11:27:55.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我們用什麼樣的誘因再去刺激。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-10-09T11:27:56.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-10-09T11:27:57.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
有誘因才有意願嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-10-09T11:27:57.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-10-09T11:27:57.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:27:57.957000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:00.518000+08:00 |
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你們整個產品的設計也要符合他們的需求。瞭解。 |
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0.9 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:00.818000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:01.118000+08:00 |
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這點很重要。 |
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1 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:01.398000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:05.199000+08:00 |
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有一部分是屬於商業保險的部分，我們會再跟商業保險公司來談。 |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:05.660000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:06.600000+08:00 |
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另外，農業扛綠能的責任是多少？ |
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0.846 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:07.560000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:09.101000+08:00 |
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要達到多少目標？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:10.768000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:10.768000+08:00 |
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農業，20GW。蛤？ |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-10-09T11:28:14.391000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:14.951000+08:00 |
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綠能就是20GW。20嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:16.072000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:17.393000+08:00 |
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目前達成率是多少？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-10-09T11:28:18.494000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:19.354000+08:00 |
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目前達成率大概……9嘛！ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:20.555000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:21.056000+08:00 |
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我們現在是3.74GW，已經併網。哇！ |
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0.385 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:21.776000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:21.776000+08:00 |
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這樣3.74…… |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2024-10-09T11:28:21.776000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:23.077000+08:00 |
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我們農業部負責的大概是9GW。是啦！ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:23.397000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:24.678000+08:00 |
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你要去檢討為什麼達成率會那麼低，問題出在哪裡？ |
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0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-10-09T11:28:25.199000+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:40.262000+08:00 |
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時間的關係，我當召委要很準時，我要以身作則，所以達成率為什麼會偏低的原因請農業部提交書面資料給我，謝謝。 |
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0.596 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2024-10-09T11:28:40.762000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:41.762000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
主席 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:42.062000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:46.919143+08:00 |
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感謝召委，分毫不差以身作則，精準的質詢。 |
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主席（邱委員志偉） |
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2024-10-09T11:28:47.219143+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:49.219143+08:00 |
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謝謝蔡易餘委員。 |
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| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
主席（邱委員志偉） |
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2024-10-09T11:28:49.519143+08:00 |
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2024-10-09T11:28:52.662000+08:00 |
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接下來質詢請鄭天財委員。 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-10-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:25 - 11:28:48 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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邱委員志偉：（11時20分）謝謝主席，請農業部陳部長。 |
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主席：請部長。 |
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陳部長駿季：召委好。 |
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邱委員志偉：部長，第一個問題請教你，我們要怎麼樣優化對天然災害補助的政策？目前山陀兒颱風的農損大概有四億多，目前統計起來農損大概四億多。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，那是速報的結果。 |
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邱委員志偉：好，速報的結果。當然包括行政院，包括我們地方縣市首長都希望能夠用現金救助，沒有錯嘛？ |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：但是按照現行的規定，同曆年，一年可以申請一次現金補助，是不是這樣？ |
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陳部長駿季：在同一個產期，長期作物的話…… |
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邱委員志偉：同一個曆年是怎麼算？同一個曆年是一年還是…… |
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陳部長駿季：不是，我舉一個例子，蔬菜差不多21天，一個月一次，他下次再種的話，如果遇到天災就可以來領，就是同一個產期。 |
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邱委員志偉：蔬菜產期大概是20…… |
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陳部長駿季：大概一個月啦！平均。 |
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邱委員志偉：一個月。好，假設…… |
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陳部長駿季：短期葉菜類差不多一個月。 |
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邱委員志偉：意思就是不受同曆年的限制？ |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：受產期的限制？ |
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陳部長駿季：只有長期作物現在是…… |
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邱委員志偉：比方，這次的颱風跟上次凱米相隔大概兩個月農作物同樣受到重創，這種狀況之下，他能夠請領兩次現金補助嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：他如果是種短期葉菜類，是可以的。 |
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邱委員志偉：除了短期葉菜類，還有哪些？ |
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陳部長駿季：長期作物的，大家特別關心的是長期的果樹部分。 |
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邱委員志偉：譬如說香蕉呢？ |
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陳部長駿季：香蕉就不行。 |
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邱委員志偉：但是它四季都有生產啊！ |
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陳部長駿季：對，但是它遇到了以後，當初我們天然災害救助的設計是它受損的時候那一整年，以它生產成本裡面的20%左右去補。 |
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邱委員志偉：我覺得這應該從優從寬認定，包括香蕉、番石榴、蜜棗、木瓜、蓮霧，基本上目前都是全年可以生產，不過它有盛產期，所以如果按照這種極端氣候發生，極端氣候大概是風災，風災大概是每年4月也許到11月，這半年的時間，是不是可以放寬現金補助的標準？ |
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陳部長駿季：我們正在研議，大原則是我們可以開放跨年，以前是曆年，可以跨年但是還是會維持一個產期。我舉一個例子，荔枝好了，荔枝6、7月結了以後…… |
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邱委員志偉：我知道，荔枝有特定的產季嘛！ |
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陳部長駿季：對，這個產季過了以後…… |
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邱委員志偉：比如，它有全年生產的，全年生產的水果類也很多，全年都是產季的水果也不少，如果同時碰到兩次、三次的風災，現在按照規定只能領一次。 |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：我覺得你們要從農民的角度去考慮，他們投入很多的生產成本，是不是能夠把整個補助制度放寬到兩次、三次？ |
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陳部長駿季：委員的建議我們會記錄下來，針對特定的，它是一年四季都生產的部分，看要怎麼去處理啦！因為每一次受天災…… |
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邱委員志偉：好，我希望是不是一個月之內提出一個比較明確的方案，檢討現今的補助標準和次數，讓所有農民都能夠瞭解？我覺得應該要從優，一個原則從優，從優從寬認定。 |
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陳部長駿季：我們會儘快，因為我們現在一併在處理那個金額的提高，所以我們會儘快。 |
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邱委員志偉：好，我還有兩分半。農業時間電價新制緩衝期是今年底到期，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：今年底到期，有沒有相關的配套措施？ |
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陳部長駿季：相關的水電費應該是由政府來…… |
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邱委員志偉：今年底到期之後，大概有幾萬戶？農業用電戶大概1萬戶喔！ |
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陳部長駿季：1萬戶左右。 |
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邱委員志偉：其中包括很多養殖漁業。 |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：這個部分，我覺得農漁業用電都凍漲，如果這個緩衝期結束，你會用到新的時間電價新制，這會變成是變相的漲電價，所以這部分是不是請農業部跟經濟部再去協調一下？ |
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陳部長駿季：不管電價有沒有浮動，有沒有夏季或是什麼的，我們對農業用電部分有一個優惠，有一個價差的補貼，會編到我們的公務預算。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以即便是這個緩衝期年底屆期，還是不會受到電價波動影響？ |
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陳部長駿季：不會，我們明年編列了24億預算，就是處理萬一…… |
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邱委員志偉：我說結論啦！你今年年底到期，在電價新制緩衝期之後，他用新的電價機制，他會不會增加成本？ |
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陳部長駿季：他所增加的成本由農業部編預算來吸收。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以不會增加額外的成本，是這樣子嗎？要說清楚耶！ |
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陳部長駿季：就是價差我們會來吸收。 |
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邱委員志偉：價差由農業部來吸收。 |
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陳部長駿季：我們來吸收，對。 |
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邱委員志偉：好，第三個問題是糧食自給率，糧食自給率的部分，你看拜登也曾經簽署「強化糧食與農業安全及韌性」國家安全備忘錄，這就是國家安全一個重要的政策，對不對？我們糧食安全的自給率目前還是偏低，所以目前你應該有一個推動小組，最起碼跟日本、韓國來看齊，我們現在糧食自給率是多少？只有33.5%，對不對？沒有錯吧？日本可以到…… |
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陳部長駿季：應該是30.7%，然後今年度可能變成30.4%。 |
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邱委員志偉：這樣跟韓國、日本還差得很遠，日本、韓國是41%、45%，你要有短中長期的目標，怎麼樣能夠把糧食自給率提高，這點很重要。 |
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陳部長駿季：我們設有短中長期目標，也跟委員說明，我們現在糧食自給率被拉下來，最主要是飼料用的玉米和大豆大概96%都是進口的，相對的，我們主要的稻米超過百分之百，水產也超過百分之百。 |
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邱委員志偉：特殊的農產品我們是沒有問題，但是你要從全盤的概念來看，我覺得整體的糧食自給率還有提高的空間，你們是不是一段時間要提出糧食安全白皮書？包括要怎麼做，你的目標值多少。 |
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陳部長駿季：好，跟委員說明，我們可以每一年度的時候發表整個糧食安全的數據，數據是最基本的，還有就是我們年度的推動作為，我想我們可以公布。 |
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邱委員志偉：好，你們要年度，還要設定目標。 |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：第四個問題就是農業保險的效能，農業保險除了強制性的保險之外，我們從109年完成立法之後，投保件數開始上升，一直到今年又下降，所以它整體的覆蓋率還不高，覆蓋率如果扣除強制性保險只有17.3%，特別是農作物跟漁產的覆蓋率相對比較偏低，我們怎麼樣去加強農業保險的效能，然後增加投保率，增加投保意願，這點很重要。 |
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陳部長駿季：謝謝委員，這個部分我也注意到，而且我們也要求農金署這邊重新檢討農業保險有一些保險率一直非常低的，就我們所瞭解，本身的這些理賠價格不符合農民的預期，保費的部分雖然有補助，可是理賠的價格…… |
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邱委員志偉：誘因看看是不是還可以加強。 |
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陳部長駿季：我們用什麼樣的誘因再去刺激。 |
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邱委員志偉：有誘因才有意願嘛！ |
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陳部長駿季：我知道。 |
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邱委員志偉：你們整個產品的設計也要符合他們的需求。 |
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陳部長駿季：瞭解。 |
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邱委員志偉：這點很重要。 |
| gazette.blocks[72][0] |
陳部長駿季：有一部分是屬於商業保險的部分，我們會再跟商業保險公司來談。 |
| gazette.blocks[73][0] |
邱委員志偉：另外，農業扛綠能的責任是多少？要達到多少目標？ |
| gazette.blocks[74][0] |
陳部長駿季：農業，20GW。 |
| gazette.blocks[75][0] |
邱委員志偉：蛤？ |
| gazette.blocks[76][0] |
陳部長駿季：綠能就是20GW。 |
| gazette.blocks[77][0] |
邱委員志偉：20嘛！目前達成率是多少？ |
| gazette.blocks[78][0] |
陳部長駿季：目前達成率大概…… |
| gazette.blocks[79][0] |
邱委員志偉：9嘛！ |
| gazette.blocks[80][0] |
陳部長駿季：我們現在是3.74GW，已經併網。 |
| gazette.blocks[81][0] |
邱委員志偉：哇！這樣3.74…… |
| gazette.blocks[82][0] |
陳部長駿季：我們農業部負責的大概是9GW。 |
| gazette.blocks[83][0] |
邱委員志偉：是啦！你要去檢討為什麼達成率會那麼低，問題出在哪裡？時間的關係，我當召委要很準時，我要以身作則，所以達成率為什麼會偏低的原因請農業部提交書面資料給我，謝謝。 |
| gazette.blocks[84][0] |
陳部長駿季：好，謝謝。 |
| gazette.blocks[85][0] |
主席：感謝召委，分毫不差以身作則，精準的質詢。 |
| gazette.blocks[86][0] |
主席（邱委員志偉）：謝謝蔡易餘委員。 |
| gazette.blocks[86][1] |
接下來質詢請鄭天財委員。 |
| gazette.agenda.page_end |
294 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-2-19-4 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
邱志偉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林岱樺 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
邱議瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
呂玉玲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
張嘉郡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
張啓楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
鄭正鈐 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
陳亭妃 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
陳超明 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
蔡易餘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
賴瑞隆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
王育敏 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
黃建賓 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
鍾佳濱 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
謝衣鳯 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
洪孟楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
徐富癸 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[19] |
麥玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[20] |
張雅琳 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[21] |
羅智強 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[22] |
伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[23] |
陳冠廷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[24] |
劉建國 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
229 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-10-09 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1138101 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1138101_00010 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1138101_00015 |