| IVOD_ID |
155193 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/155193 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-07T12:40:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-07T12:48:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| video_url |
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主席,謝謝。麻煩請黃燕南部長 |
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委員好部長好部長詐騙是大家國人深惡痛絕我們對速發部非常高度期待就是因為現在我們看到很多的詐騙為什麼會那麼的猖獗就是他利用網路無遠弗屆的關係或者是說用這個通訊軟體來擴散那我們要的是源頭管理堵絕讓很多的狀況可以好好的嚇阻 |
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我先提一下有沒有去盤點說現在到底比較常見的詐騙有哪一些樣態類型投資詐騙是最嚴重的當然再來就是那些假的帳單、假費的假裝公佈門的假訊息假訊息都是這個假費的詐騙 |
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一頁式廣告．假的廣告或是不實廣告的詐騙也有 |
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所以部長剛剛我們也提到是說那麼多的詐騙其實最根究底就這幾類那可是國人還問就是說為什麼基礎的網路防禦下架到目前為止還沒有辦法做 |
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很立即即時或是說現在我們打開真的都還是有而且現在不只是臉書、社群媒體YT、TikTok、IG其實連拍影片他都拍影片告訴你說你可以來做相關的詐騙有沒有看到這樣的狀況 |
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對那個詐騙管道當然很多那我們剛剛也有一些數據顯示就是源頭裡面很多是跟這個比如說假名人、臉書的詐騙是相關所以剛剛講網路廣告平台上的管理如果這個在打詐裝法通過、執法通過之後我們會要求他進行實名制那用實名制的關係會杜絕這些假 |
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假的廣告對過去到現在本席一而再再而三就強調就是說你現在很多的粉絲專業我們以臉書為例粉絲專業如果說你剛創立他沒有去加好友他不是一個真的有名的話其實他擴散不出去現在的觸及演算法是很低的所以他就要透過下廣告的方式才能夠短時間接觸到一般的民眾那廣告源頭就可以去管理嘛那現在廣告實名制到底我們能不能要求了 |
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所以我們現在想要確認的地方是不管是一頁是詐騙不管是這個投資廣告名人假冒名人他即便是假冒洪孟楷假冒任何一個名人 |
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如果說他沒有去投廣告他也擴散不出去嘛對不對那現在我們能不能跟這個不管是臉書的母公司還是說這個Google能夠已經有確認就廣告實名制了對我們那個已經告訴他們就是說我們打造狀況通過之後已經告訴他們 |
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臉書、Google、相關社群媒體包括甚至我講是說還有TikTok、IG、YT |
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這些其實也都是管道已經通知了那年底執法通過之後就能夠要求廣告實名制如果說不配合勒不配合就開始除我們有不同的罰款那從一案一罰還是可以累敘罰可以累敘可以一案一罰最多可以罰到一億元最終可以罰到一億元情節惡劣嚴重就罰到一億元 |
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罰款只是手段不是目的重點在於是我們要嚇阻不要讓這些平台變成是詐騙的管道跟溫床過去我們講說我們對於訴發部基於厚望認為訴發部在打詐的防範上面角色很關鍵但是過去的訴發部我必須實在話講都是認為說訴發部只是配角的角色 |
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但是我們在交通委員會我們一直強調速發部不是配角的角色甚至他是源頭管理可以說是主角中的主角跟金管會、金流跟這個相關NCC電信的這個管道 |
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警政署第一線的員警同仁非常辛苦但我們不希望是說所有事情到時候都是壓到第一線同仁員警身上所以速發部能夠勇於承擔我給予肯定但我們更期待後續的一個作為那我另外再提到最近還有另外一個他可能不算詐騙但是遊走黑白之間可是非常嚴重假車牌 |
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有沒有看到假車牌的廣告訊息我看到這樣的新聞有是那如果說這是一個違禁品假車牌其實某種程度上他是他不算詐騙啦你真的給錢他會做一個車可是我們不允許這樣的狀況嘛就如同我們不允許網路上賣毒品我們不允許網路上賣槍械的這種違禁品或是他就是 |
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法令明文規定的非法用品那一樣假車牌過去這段時間非常猖獗甚至網路上你只要搜尋關鍵字本席明天會開一個記者會我想也有邀請相關不管是警政單位或是抒發單位來好好討論我們怎麼樣嚇阻因為本席發現這樣的一個狀況非常嚴重甚至你只要在網路上查關鍵字就可以搜尋得到他就叫你加LINE |
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然後告訴你說你來製作一比一他上面甚至還寫警語啊警作教學使用嚴禁非法用途你不覺得很諷刺嗎但他做出來的車牌而且價格其實人人負擔得起那如果說我們放任這樣的一個假車牌在車路面上啪啪走我只預期兩個點第一他有恃無恐他可能開比較快因為被拍到不是罰到他 |
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第二,如果說真的發生了車禍、肇事逃逸他跑走你現場查這個車牌查不到人那是非常嚴重的犯罪問題部長,我想請教假車牌這種違禁品的廣告是不是一併也要跟這些社群平台來去做討論要求他們不能推播甚至這一些訊息都要下架假車牌的那個 |
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陳副委員講的就要跟我們內管的這幾大平台去溝通另外還有電商這我們跟所有的電商三大的電商工會請他們告訴他們的會員這個要嚴格控管假設另外我們其實自己也在掃 |
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本席不要否定你們的努力,但是我們真的還是查得到 |
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這樣子的狀況就代表是說他確實還有一些漏洞還是會被有心人士去利用所以我也提出來這個問題明天記者會我們還在就教但我更希望的是明天來的時候各單位要提出可以應對的辦法好不好謝謝 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-10-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:40:26 - 12:48:15 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長、國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員、行政院打擊詐欺指揮中心、法務部、內政部警政署、內政部警政署刑事警察局、金融監督管理委員會就「我國打詐成效與防制」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |