| IVOD_ID |
154550 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154550 |
| 日期 |
2024-07-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-1-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第21次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期第21次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-07-05T17:51:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-07-05T18:07:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4edc3fae9cb29e979c7c5c595e35dc5e412a25d0aa7d1a4947c19e37f8cb80382d6590a054ec0c545ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:51:57 - 18:07:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-07-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第21次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢。
二、7月5日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。
三、7月9日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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主席各位先請大家那個院長站很久了先坐著聽等一下我可能還是有問題再請院長一起回答那我們先請那個數位發展部數位發展部的部長黃部長委員好部長那個 |
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黃仁勳說臺灣是世界AI的起點。黃崇仁說臺灣是世界AI的首都。部長有沒有信心? |
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謝謝那個黃仁勳這些不是有沒有信心完成信心當然可以啊臺灣有很好的基礎建設包括我想要跟部長這邊報告一下也希望說部長可以著手來進行啦就是全世界像黃仁勳他們超級電腦的GPU CPU TPU等等的台積電大概就有做了90幾趴全世界的90幾趴 |
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總體電腦的面板全世界臺灣就做了八十幾趴,所以這個在AI方面臺灣的條件可以算是世界上最好的。我們的現在的海嵐站,部長可以看一下,院長不知道能不能看得到。我們的海嵐站事實上現在就是分居各地,這個就像小竹那要買頭,它那是給我小買頭。 |
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但是你如果沒有一個大的港口容納各個大船或者是各式各樣的船這樣子一個格局可能不夠所以台灣需要有個數位港口我們高雄是海港是空港如果高雄可以再加上數位港我們用現有的條件來把所有的海欄站把他所有的全世界的資訊集中 |
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所以呢我是希望說我們數位部裡面也有韌性發展師要如何增加我們全臺灣的數位的韌性要如何讓我們臺灣變成世界的AI的首都那這個地方事實上高雄是一個相當適當的地方現在台積電進駐高雄黃仁勳回答跟鴻海進駐高雄 |
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那我高雄有很多很好的條件所以我們來創造一個數位港口部長這個有沒有信心那個報告委員我覺得這個您的idea很好但高雄剛剛講就是除了我們剛剛講有我再跟部長報告一下就是說我們高雄事實上在這個高雄港附近事實上我們找一個海嵐站那海嵐站上來之後呢 |
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其實所有的就像飛機場跟海港一樣他船進進出出飛機進進出出其實還不夠有商業的性質所以他除了海欄站之外呢他希望再做一個交流中心就類似樞紐中心那全世界樞紐中心也在亞洲現在是香港跟新加坡比較強但是香港很快就會沒落新加坡要竄起 |
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﹚臺灣﹚ |
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拜託我們台灣幫他行銷連接到世界。 |
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李部長請備詢 |
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部長好,剛才講到數位港,事實上亞洲新灣區在這幾年來進步很多,港公司也成立旅運中心,旅運中心現在全世界的國際郵輪,臺灣國際郵輪在什麼時候最興盛,不知道部長知不知道?其實我們郵輪做得最好的就在疫情那幾年, |
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為什麼疫情那幾年會做最好?因為我們一般的旅遊是歐邦的,坐郵輪歐邦的會比英邦的多。但是那幾年因為是疫情所以不能出去。所以那時候有很多我們的跳島旅遊。那我也曾經提過就是以郵輪的跳島旅遊台澎金馬,這是一個很好的選擇。 |
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台灣人很多人沒有到過金馬很多人沒有到過馬祖那你如果台風金馬可以用一個郵輪來一個跳島旅遊的話事實上我們本身就有國內的市場 |
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另外就是說你看基隆港跟高雄港的出入事實上差很多。你看那個土也有就是從基隆出發的到那霸到日本長崎等等的。然後從高雄出發有到宮古島那霸等等。那這些都是國際旅遊的動線。那我希望說就是交通部跟港澳公司跟航港局可以重視一下這個郵輪的旅遊。我們看下一張。 |
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現在就是迪士尼他冒險後以新加坡當作母港規劃4到7天的亞洲旅遊事實上類似這樣子的概念之前我們有高雄跟香港雙母港不知道部長知不知道現在又停了因為香港現在其實他就是會decade所以我們對香港當然就是說我們可以考慮就是高雄跟新加坡定為新的雙母港 |
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另外還有一個好玩卡﹖ |
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部長可能沒有玩過好玩卡沒有買過,院長可能也沒有買過好玩卡院長可能也不知道什麼叫好玩卡在日本大阪實際上他一張好玩卡兩天的行程可以玩了四五十個景點只花不到一千塊台幣所以年輕人是這麼玩的年輕人他坐飛機到日本花了差不多一萬多塊兩萬塊的旅費住宿費一天兩千,玩個四天 |
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四千塊買個好玩卡買個兩次他就可以花兩萬塊他就可以在日本玩得很高興 |
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台灣這個好玩卡,觀光局、觀光署有在做,但是做得還不夠。我們高雄市政府現在是算是做得最好的,但是也還不夠。我們希望說,它除了交通的連結之外,還能夠連結各個不同的景點,把它串聯成好玩卡,這樣子才能夠推動觀光。我想台灣未來,其實就是兩個大的概念,高科技產業國跟觀光文化國。那包括我們高雄也一樣,我們高雄除了AI手資之外,我這個Tech高雄是有它的意義的。 |
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Tech不只是科技的Tech,T是Technology,E可以是Economy,C是Charming,H是Happy,叫做科技、經濟、魅力、華氣。科技產業國、科技城市帶動城市經濟的發展、國家經濟的發展。魅力當然是有魅力何剩那麼快要來。 |
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所以其實就是包括觀光經濟、商圈經濟等等的這些庶民經濟可以藉由魅力跟觀光來推動經濟的成長那也是讓高科技人才跟一般的人民都有工作可以做所以科技、經濟、魅力、華麗我想這個方向那尤其是交通部觀光是你們最重要的工作所以郵輪這個希望說能夠再規劃 |
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台灣PASS的重點是交通的連結,但是台灣PASS沒有景點的連結。 |
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徐議員提到的高鐵藍眼,其實我一直覺得從左營直接連接到屏東有點痛。 |
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以前在毛澤國當交通部長、吳篤立當高雄市長的時候就是眼光不夠,說錢沒夠,所以沒辦法黏到高雄,沒辦法黏到紅山。台北高鐵有三個核心,台北車站、板橋車站、南港車站,高雄只有一個核心。 |
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左營車站。事實上你以50年後來思考整個高雄的發展可能會偏重一方。那南高雄的發展可能會受到阻礙。尤其現在亞洲新灣區其實陳局市長任內把亞洲新灣區做得很漂亮。 |
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陳其邁市長任內我們再次亞洲氣溫區的提升還有包括所有的高科技產業的進駐為了這裡是個重鎮如果有高鐵來事實上會更好所以我也希望說交通部可以好好的考慮一下就是高鐵三個核心在我們南台灣在我們高雄也可能有高雄坐營高雄跟鳳山三個核心也希望說部長可以做一下思考 |
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另外高鐵、台鐵、輕軌這三個都是交通動脈 |
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那當然就是親國也謝謝交通部跟行政院很幫忙。我們這一陣子齊邁市長一直在喊事先啟發。包括剛剛徐委員提到可不可以接到屏東。那我們岡山路竹這一站岡市營運賴總統也有來。希望將來有機會接到台南。這個都是一個思考的點。那包括我們的捷運直線也希望交通部可以盡快思考。包括整個高雄的交通動脈通通把它思考好。 |
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另外一個就是我們的鐵路地下化跟那個立體化之外就是說在台鐵車站之前我跟那個劉思煌委員還有李博裕當時還是議員的時候我們都有去開過會也就是說除了高鐵之外攔指擺木打是一個很大的困擾我也知道交通部現在叫做評估也就是說交通部除了攔指擺木打這邊的整體評估之外台積電那個地方可以設一個台鐵站 |
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因為你看這個圖,這個從捷運,你將來如果說沒有台鐵站到台積電的,未來到了捷運再轉站一樣會非常的擁擠。所以你在那個台鐵這裡,就是那個梅花國道旁邊那一條是鐵道,鐵道旁邊那個是男子產業園區,那邊是台積電,那邊做一個台鐵站,將來可能從 |
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另外停車問題我現在 |
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這個其實,停全國的前瞻計畫已經用完了,這260億已經用完了。但是停車問題事實上,它會有關於行人友善空間的思考,它還會建立有些違規停車的思考。那這個停車場的辟建是非常的重要,全國很多重要的城市都有這個需要。 |
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那我知道交通部現在已經沒錢了是不是請行政院也可以盡量在這一部分再規劃一點經費讓全國高雄市包括我們鳳山我鳳山車站事實上車站蓋好了將來有正式營運的時候可能不夠所以呢我們也有很多我們鳳山車站吳甲國宅吳甲龍城宮等等的有很多地方這只是一個例子我想整個全國有很多這樣子重要的點都需要再規劃停車的空間這個希望說可以再規劃 |
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高雄機場的二樓是辦公室。 |
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我們高雄機場沒有那種迎賓的或者是十一住行的一個好的場域的概念就純粹只是交通那其他這部分必須要一起規劃所以我們希望說機場那包括現在高雄機場的改建這個其實速度太慢了你可以看清邁清邁他明年動工2028啟用我們現在高雄機場穿著衣服改衣服半班施工要16年 |
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這時間真的是太長希望交通部可以做一下規劃能夠盡快或者是說我們有城市機場跟郊區機場的概念這個我們可能再思考好最後拜託院長是不是可以給我們一個統一的回答統一是說機場的問題 |
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首先從第一個那個數位港口很重要剛剛黃部長已經說過了他已經有這樣的想法我們看看他細部的規劃進程如何那那個高鐵高鐵現在我們剛剛提過他現在是朝向這個左營的方案在進行但是他要跟地方做做的溝通有機會讓我們高雄三核心 |
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香港機場的改善跟停車空間這個? |
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947.875 |
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我剛剛看到那個照片確實他應該有一個比較迎賓的大樓的方式。跟院長報告細節我都會跟部長保持聯絡讓部長知道陪著我一起追蹤啦。我們一起努力啦謝謝。好謝謝院長。 |