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154543 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154543 |
| 日期 |
2024-07-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-1-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第21次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期第21次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-07-05T15:49:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-07-05T16:05:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
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| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:49:35 - 16:05:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-07-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第21次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢。
二、7月5日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。
三、7月9日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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李委員柏毅：（15時50分）謝謝，有請卓院長。 |
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主席：請卓院長備詢。 |
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李委員柏毅：還有交通部部長。 |
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主席：請交通部李部長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰：李委員好。 |
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李委員柏毅：卓院長，我要用我很珍貴的這15分鐘就交通部門的質詢、對院長的質詢，還是要說明一下，為什麼剛剛其他委員在講昨天立法院有4個委員會沒有辦法運作，其中最重要的一個就是，你是最受信任的院長，大家都信任你，所以昨天內政委員會提出要提高罷免門檻、要審議的時候，因為大家對你的信任，因此對這一個罷免案大家無法進行這些討論。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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李委員柏毅：臺灣的憲政體制，要嘛你對於覆議案的結果不滿，你可能可以對行政院提出不信任案，要嘛你就是接受這個覆議案。但是現在國會實際的運作不是這樣，他就是要當人民投下立委這一票的時候，同時人民手上還握有罷免的權力。你當選了之後，你馬上要改變人民罷免的這個權力，大家當然不滿！我們的機制是在另外一個。我先跟院長說明，大家是信任你，我們會繼續捍衛人民罷免的權力，所以再有相關的提案，民進黨團還是會持續捍衛人民罷免的權力。 |
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我非常珍貴的時間用了1分半鐘，我要趕快為南部的建設發聲。院長是5月20日就任，5月15日我跟交通委員會去考察小港機場，行政院非常用心，包含之前8年的政府也提出了兩期計畫要擴張小港機場的建設，一共分成兩個階段，達到880億，包含新航廈、航道北移。可是現在南部人要的不是這個，我說明給院長聽。在2019年的時候、疫情前，小港機場的國際航班到達4,000個班次，但在2023年，也就是去年度，小港機場航班只恢復到2,258次。 |
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我們要的其實不只是多點航班，我們還要有更大機型的飛機，我舉個例好了，現在剛好是暑假旺季，在疫情前，小港機場飛到國人最愛的北海道是用A330的飛機，也就是可以搭乘比較多人的雙走道的飛機來飛行；在疫情後，北海道還沒有復飛。在疫情前高雄有一些航班會用A330，或者是用波音747來飛行；但是在疫情後，小港機場目前所有航班只剩下單走道飛機。 |
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我再舉一個例子，華航從高雄小港飛東京及桃園飛東京，小港飛東京航班現在的乘載率是96%，桃園飛東京是百分之八十幾。而桃園飛東京3台飛機都是A350，小港飛東京都是A321，都是小飛機。在我們要大量投資小港機場的航廈之前，要讓南部人出國旅遊，甚至未來可能臺南、高雄已經超越新竹科學園區，大量商務旅客進駐南部的時候，小港機場沒有可以直飛歐美的班機（這是我的中程目標），甚至連中型航班A350、波音747都沒有，這個其實目前不用花錢就可以做到。 |
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我也跟院長報告，你還沒上任的時候，我3月6號在交通委員會質詢華航董事長，他跟我說，他正在買飛機，等A350在2025年到的時候，再來思考要不要到小港機場；他跟我說，他也正在買波音787的飛機，等2026年、2027年到位的時候，再來做整體的思考。如果我們要投資、如果我們要讓南部旅客比較方便，中程目標是飛歐美，但如果是比較方便的，像現在如果要飛三個小時以上的飛機，其實用321來飛是不舒服的。 |
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所以在這邊想要請教院長，對於小港機場這一個新航廈擴建的態度會不會一樣？另外，我也要建議院長，在這個擴建開始之前，我們其實就可以要求國航優先調度A350的飛機或者是波音747的飛機，先服務南部超過三個小時以上旅程的旅客，院長，你支不支持這一個方向？ |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，我日前才到桃園機場看第三航廈工程的進展，一樣的，未來小港機場有這樣的一個擴建計畫，我想行政院同樣的重視，我們會全力的支持！ |
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至於現在，因為剛剛委員也提到開發大南方計畫，既然有這麼大的計畫，未來科技、人口以及各種的往來會加速，所以現在要預先做一些前瞻的規劃，我們要提前部署，我們再來跟航空公司協調，在飛機數量以及型號各種充分的情況底下，如何來充實加強小港機場現在的聯外系統需求，這個我們會跟交通部一起來跟華航、國航公司來處理。 |
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李委員柏毅：謝謝院長。部長呢？ |
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李部長孟諺：也跟委員報告，其實小港機場目前的航班數已經大概恢復到疫情前的83%，航點現在已經有26個航點。 |
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李委員柏毅：部長，我們說內行一點，我們說雙走道飛機什麼時候來？除了華航之外，我們小港機場的這些，包含機艙的停放優惠，我們有蘿蔔、也有棍子，我們希望可以趕快有雙走道飛機來服務南部的鄉親。但是我們更希望在短期內，南部的所有旅客或者是商務客，比如說今年又有火星人要來高雄開演唱會，歐美沒有直飛，還是從桃園轉啊！那各種大型的演唱會或者是未來南部的這些半導體產業園區中心，商務客還是從桃園轉啊！我們希望有一天歐美航線也可以在小港起降。要怎麼在小港起降？我們就需要787、我們就需要A380的飛機布局在高雄，有需要、有缺什麼硬體設備，我們就要在這一方面上來投資，部長。 |
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李部長孟諺：我想這個我們來努力，包括協調航空公司怎麼樣能夠優先調度大型的、更舒適的飛機來這邊，當然也要提供適當的優惠。另外，年底會再新增3個航點，就是日本的熊本、札幌跟岡山；當然，歐美的部分我想我們還要再努力。 |
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李部長孟諺：謝謝部長，謝謝。 |
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下一題一樣是交通部，德國跟日本對我們臺灣台積電都直接用補助，請台積電去德國跟日本設廠，台積電在楠梓現在設3個廠，預計明年都開始量產，所以我跟陳其邁市長其實對於楠梓跟左營周邊的這些交通，包含軌道的建設，我們是非常、非常努力的在追。目前行政院其實也面臨到一個非常難的狀況，我剛才坐在底下聽其他委員的質詢，每一個人都要跟部長、院長講一條線，那我也一樣，我這一條是紫線。 |
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但我很擔心的是，在前瞻計畫裡面其實高雄有爭取到一條黃線捷運。高雄爭取到黃線捷運在分年編列的預算裡面，包含113年中央必須補助119億，114年中央必須補助119億，包含115年中央必須補助139億，這些可能都是卓院長、李部長分別要來編列、支持，但是目前花東三法、財劃法劃下去，我不知道行政院對於113、114、115黃線捷運有沒有可能預算縮水，影響到黃線捷運的這些進度，我很擔心，這是第一點，院長讓你講一下。 |
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卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員，過去前瞻基礎建設確實幫助地方做了很多重要的公共建設，未來我們在預算編列過程當中，如果儘量朝不編列特別預算的方式走的話，那我們會少掉一大塊特別預算，也少掉過去的前瞻基礎建設，前瞻第五期剩下700億，已經核准但還沒編列預算的還有數千億…… |
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李委員柏毅：所以我很擔心。 |
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卓院長榮泰：這個將來如果消化掉，對行政院來講是非常大的考慮，我們現在正在做最後很多的模擬跟試算，困難相當大，但是無論如何，我們會從優先順序、地方最實際需要的，我們還是會儘量把它編入，跟地方一起合作。 |
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李委員柏毅：謝謝。 |
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李部長孟諺：跟委員報告，評估起來單單軌道建設還有包括鐵路，未來四年我們大概需要籌措4,000億的部分，所以這是一個非常大的…… |
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李委員柏毅：可能還要再加1,884億，我講一下捷運紫線目前可行性評估已經在市政府最後的階段，預計會有24個車站，地下7站，可能高架有17站，總經費可能需要1,884億，當然這不是整段，因為後面還有佛光山段等等還沒有納入，是只有從高雄醫學大學接民族路這一段採地下，往北到榮總這一段採地下，再往左邊往西到高鐵站，這一串也採地下，過了高鐵之後要進入右昌地區要進入高雄大學地區要進入橋頭科學園區要進入包含大學學園區，這一段採高架，一共需要1,884億。 |
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在捷運黃線的例子，我們在推動捷運黃線的過程裡面，捷運黃線包括從2019年通過可行性評估到2022年實際動工，一共花了大概5年的時間，我們希望捷運紫線在通過可行性評估之後，我們在環評上面就要來努力，希望可以縮短2年的時間，希望可以在一年多的時間達到環境影響評估，也希望後面的細部設計、動工等等都可以如期順利的在2028、2029的時候順利動工，這是我們希望的。 |
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所以，剛剛部長講的這個預算，我還要跟你加1,884億。部長，捷運紫線其實是從楠梓、從現在台積電高鐵含捷運黃線會一路服務到3個醫療園區，包含長庚醫院、高雄醫學院、榮總，甚至包含義大，會包含7所大學，包含橋頭科學園區跟台積電楠梓產業園區，是這麼重要、產值那麼高的一條捷運線，我也希望到時候在環境影響評估等等可以獲得行政院大量的支持，院長，這一條線我也邀請院長跟部長來看看。 |
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卓院長榮泰：這個紫線，希望高雄市政府能夠儘速完成可行性評估…… |
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李委員柏毅：已經快出來了。 |
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卓院長榮泰：出來以後，我們就請交通部依程序辦理，我們儘速來看，但是剛剛委員提到，我們如果將來沒有特別預算，前瞻預算也用完了，將來在整個公共建設的預算中無法這樣膨脹的話，恐怕很多時程會往後延。 |
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李委員柏毅：這是我們擔心的…… |
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卓院長榮泰：對，所以中央如果再沒有保持這種彈性靈活的財政能力的話，那往後延的可能性是相當不可預測的…… |
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李委員柏毅：臺灣的政治體制，中央、院長就是要有足夠的能力去布局未來臺灣發展的方向，臺灣未來發展方向包含半導體、包含AI也有可能來高雄，這一些布局要把人引來，最重要的交通建設我也希望院長可以加強這個布局。 |
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卓院長榮泰：也請委員支持我們中央保持這種彈性、有能力的財政能力，我們就能夠去均衡臺灣往最需要的地方去，但這個也會顧及到各縣市的公平性，請大家放心。 |
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李委員柏毅：會啦！高雄值得投資。最後，關於楠梓交流道引道，李孟諺部長在4月27號還陪同陳建仁前院長來視察，包含鐵路立體化，從左營到橋頭這一段，未來都需要行政院大量的支持，拜託你，謝謝。 |
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卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員，好的，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝李委員、謝謝院長。 |
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接下來請吳秉叡委員、張宏陸委員聯合質詢，詢答時間30分鐘。 |
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韓國瑜 |
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江啟臣 |
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羅智強 |
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李柏毅 |
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吳秉叡 |
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施政質詢
對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─ |
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李委員好請院長我很珍貴的這15分鐘交通部門的質詢各位院長的質詢還是要說明一下為什麼剛剛其他委員在講 |
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昨天立法院的委員會有四個委員會沒有辦法運作其中最重要一個就是院長你是最受信任的院長大家都信任你所以昨天內政委員會提出要提高罷免門檻要審議的時候因為大家對你的信任所以對這個罷免案大家無法來進行這些討論 |
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臺灣的憲政體制要嘛你對於復議案的結果不滿你可能可以對行政院提出信不信任的案子要嘛你就是接受這個復議案但是現在國會實際的運作不是這樣他就是要當人民投下你立委這一票的時候其實同時人民手上還握有罷免的權利 |
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你當選了之後你要馬上改變人民罷免的這個權利大家當然不滿啊我們的機制是在另外一個所以我先 |
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跟院長說明大家是信任你所以我們會繼續捍衛人民罷免的權利所以再有相關的提案民進黨團還是會持續捍衛人民罷免的權利我非常珍貴的時間用了一分半鐘我要趕快來為南部的建設發聲在院長是5月20號就任在5月15號的時候我跟交通委員會去考察了小港機場 |
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小港機場行政院也非常用心包含我們之前的政府8年的政府其實也提出了兩期要擴張小港機場的建設一共分成兩個階段達到880億包含新的航廈包含航道的北移可是880億院長 |
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現在南部人要的不是這個說明給你、給院長聽在2019年的時候疫情前小港機場的國際航班到達4000個班次但是在2023年也就是去年度小港機場航班現在目前只恢復到2258次 |
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我們要的其實不只是多點的航班我們要的還有更大機型的飛機在疫情前小港機場我舉個例好了現在剛好是暑假旺季在疫情前小港機場飛到國人最愛的北海道是用A330的飛機也就是可以搭乘比較多人的雙走道的飛機飛在疫情後北海道還沒有復飛 |
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在疫情前高雄有一些航班會用A330或者是波音的747來飛但是在疫情後小港機場目前所有航班只剩下單走道飛機我再舉一個例子以華航小港飛東京跟桃園飛東京 |
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小港飛東京航班現在的承載率是96%桃園飛東京是80%那桃園飛東京三台飛機都是A350小港飛東京都是321都是小飛機 |
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在我們要大量投資小港機場的這個航廈之前要讓南部人可能出國旅遊甚至未來可能台南高雄已經超越新竹科學園區未來大量商務旅客進駐南部的時候小港機場沒有可以直飛歐美的班機這是我的忠誠目標 |
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甚至連中型航班A350波音737都沒有這個其實目前不用花錢可以做到的我也跟院長報告你還沒上任的時候我在3月6日在交通委員會質詢華航董事長他跟我說他現在正在買飛機等A350 |
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在2025年到的時候再來思考要不要到小港機場他跟我說他現在也正在買波音787的飛機等2020、2027年到位的時候再來做整體的思考如果我們要投資如果我們要讓南部的旅客 |
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有比較方便的中程目標是飛歐美但是有比較方便的像現在短程出了如果要飛三個小時以上的飛機其實用321來飛是不舒服的所以在這邊想要請教院長對於小港機場這一個擴建這一個新航廈的擴建的這一個態度會不會一樣另外我也要建議院長在這個擴建開始之前 |
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我們其實就可以要求國航優先調度A350的飛機或者是波音747的飛機先服務南部超過3個小時以上的旅客,旅程的旅客。院長你支不支持這個方向? |
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報告委員我日前才到桃園機場看第三航廈的進展工程的進展一樣的未來小港機場及機場有這樣的一個擴建的計畫我想行政院同樣的重視我們會全力的支持那至於現在因為我們剛剛委員提到過要開發這個大南方的計畫 |
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﹚議員 |
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部長,我們說內行一點 |
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我們說雙走道飛機什麼時候來這個其實除了華航之外我們小雄機場的這些包含機艙的這些停放的優惠我們有蘿蔔也有棍子我們希望可以趕快有雙走道飛機來服務南部的鄉親但是我們更希望在短期內國人南部的所有的旅客或者是商務客比如說 |
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拜訪議員 |
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歐美航線也可以在台北起降,也可以在小港起降,要怎麼在小港起降,我們就需要787,我們就需要A380的飛機佈局在高雄。 |
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謝謝部長,謝謝 |
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來下一題一樣是交通部在德國跟日本對我們臺灣台積電都直接用補助都直接用補助來請這個台積電到去德國跟日本設廠那台積電在南梓他現在設三個廠那預計明年都開始亮廠 |
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所以我跟陳其邁市長其實對於南梓跟左雲周邊的這些交通包含軌道的建設我們是非常非常努力的在追那現在目前行政院其實也面臨到一個非常難的狀況我剛才坐在底下聽其他委員的質詢每一個人都要跟部長跟院長講一條線那我也一樣我這一條是直線但是我很擔心的是 |
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在前瞻計畫裡面其實高雄有爭取到一條黃線捷運高雄爭取到黃線捷運在分年編列的這些預算裡面包含113年中央必須補助119億包含114年中央必須補助119億包含115年中央必須補助139億這些可能都是左院長李部長分別要來編列分別要來支持 |
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但是在目前花東山法在目前才化法畫下去我不知道行政院對於113、114、115黃線捷運有沒有可能預算縮水影響到黃線捷運的這些進度我很擔心這是第一點院長讓你講一下 |
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謝謝委員因為過去前瞻基礎建設確實幫助地方做了很多重要的公共建設那未來我們在預算編列過程當中如果盡量朝不編列特別預算的方式走的話那我們會炒到一大塊特別預算也炒掉過去的前瞻基礎建設那前瞻第5期剩下700億 |
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謝謝 |
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您跟委員報告,就是評估起來單單軌道建設還有包括鐵路,未來4年我們大概需要籌措4千億的部分。那可能還要再加1884億,來我講一下捷運紫縣目前可行性評估已經在市政府的最後的階段,那預計會有 |
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二十五個、二十四個車站、地下七站那可能高架有十七站那總經費可能是需要一千八百八十四億當然這不是整段因為後面還有佛光山段等等的這個還沒有納入是只有從高雄醫學大學 |
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接民族路這一段踩地下往北到榮總這一段踩地下再往左邊往西到高鐵站這一串也踩地下 |
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通過高鐵之後要進入右昌地區要進入高雄大學地區要進入橋頭科學園區要進入包含我們的大學學園區這一段採高價一共需要1884億在捷運黃線的例子裡面在我們在推動捷運黃線的過程裡面捷運黃線從 |
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19年通過可行性評估到2022年實際動工一共花了大概五年的時間。我們希望在捷運子線通過可行性評估之後,我們在環評上面我們就要來努力。希望可以縮短兩年的時間,希望可以在一年多的時間就可以達到環境影響評估。 |
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那也希望後面的西部設計等等的動工等等都可以如期都可以順利的在2028、2029的時候順利動工這是我們希望的所以剛剛部長講的這個預算我還要跟你加1884億部長捷運紫縣它其實是從南梓從現在台積電高鐵一路 |
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會服務到三個醫療園區,包含長庚醫院,包含高雄醫學院,包含榮總,甚至包含義大。 |
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那會包含七所大學那會包含橋頭科學園區跟台積電男子產業園區這麼重要產值那麼高的一條捷運線我也希望到時候在環境影響評估等等的那可以獲得行政院大量的支持這條線我也邀請院長跟部長來看看 |
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這個只限希望市政府、高雄市政府能夠儘速完成這個可行性評估。那出來以後我們就請交通部、議程去辦理,我們儘速來看。但是剛剛委員提到我們如果將來也沒有特別預算,前瞻預算也用完了,那將來在整個公共建設的預算當中無法這樣的膨脹的話,恐怕很多時程會往後延。 |
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這是我們擔心的。對,所以中央如果再沒有保持這種彈性靈活的財政的能力的話,那往後延的可能性是相當不可預測的。臺灣的政治體制,中央院長就是要有能力,足夠的能力去佈局未來臺灣發展的方向。臺灣未來發展方向包含半導體,包含AI也有可能來高雄。這一些佈局要把人引來最重要的交通建設,我也希望院長可以加強這個佈局。 |
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936.149 |
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也請委員支持我們中央保持這種彈性有能力的財政能力,我們就能夠均衡臺灣最需要的地方去,但這個也會顧及到各縣市的公平性,請大家放心。會啦,高雄值得投資。最後,男子交流道引道在李孟淵部長4月27號還陪同陳建仁前院長來視察包含鐵路地下化, |
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936.869 |
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謝謝委員,好的謝謝 |