| IVOD_ID |
154518 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154518 |
| 日期 |
2024-07-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-22-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-07-03T12:35:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-07-03T12:42:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:35:39 - 12:42:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-07-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請文化部部長李遠列席就「『文化資產保存法』施行40年有餘，修復體系翻新升級」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（12時35分）主席、各位委員。有請部長。 |
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主席：好，有請部長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。 |
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李部長遠：鄭委員你好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：辛苦了！maroray kiso，辛苦了！好，對於Panai Kusui在金曲獎的得獎感言，我用比較中性的用詞。 |
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李部長遠：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對於他發表的金曲獎感言，「天安門事件也是剛好35年」，大陸有很多人都對這樣的發言不滿意，我用比較中性的不滿意，在臺灣的很多人很滿意，是不是這樣？ |
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李部長遠：應該是吧！ |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，我來說，對原住民族而言，大陸的漢人不滿意，臺灣的漢人很滿意，這是原住民族的角度。 |
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我們看這個發言，原住民族所看到的是什麼呢？Panai Kusui的得獎感言是說「剛剛結束了7年在凱道的抗議，為了原住民族群傳統領域的事情」，我們看到的是這個，我們非常感謝他發表這樣的得獎感言。然後他後面提到天安門事件，對原住民族而言，他的這一句話「我們都不要忘記」，是「都」喔！天安門事件不要忘記，凱道事件也不要忘記，對原住民族而言是這樣，所以臺灣要加油，因為對原住民族而言都是統治者。 |
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對原住民族而言，還有臺語專輯獎，榮獲最佳臺語專輯獎，對原住民族而言，包括客家人，對用「臺語」這兩個字其實是很有意見的，因為臺灣的語言簡稱臺語，應該包含著在臺灣各個族群的語言，這是一個。好，因為為什麼呢？你看Panai Kusui，他在凱道一樣是被驅離喔！在臺灣是被警察驅離，在大陸是軍方驅離，這個讓大家也瞭解一下。 |
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今天的主題是文化資產，成功宜灣教會我質詢了很多次，宜灣教會它被列為歷史建築，這樣的外牆仍然一直到現在，你看這個照片，它是歷史古蹟。依照文化資產保存法第十一條規定，中央主管機關應寬列預算，專款辦理原住民族文化資產的保存維護，部長，當然你剛上任，我從107年7月30日就質詢，然後甚至去實地會勘，質詢了這麼多次，一直到去年的5月22日。好，文化部也開了一個線上會議，這個理由都不充分，不能說因為前面那一條道路有爭議就不處理，這不應該成為一個理由啦！這個其實也不是地主的，它已經是既成道路，鎮公所也把它列為既成道路，他就不應該擋，所以你們要修那個歷史建築，當然可以啊！對不對？不能受到任何的影響，所以這個部分，前面那個已經拆除了，擋的也沒有了，現在沒有理由了吧？什麼時候可以執行？ |
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李部長遠：報告鄭委員，這個教堂非常重要也非常漂亮，我們已經開始處理了，之前有一些產權問題還有其他問題，全部協調完畢，我跟您保證，我們會解決。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：因為真的是很久很久了，什麼時候可以…… |
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李部長遠：因為我們找到預算是屬於風災、地震之類，我們可以給它預算，我們找到那個項目，因為這個教堂對我們來講是非常重要的，所以我們已經編了預算補助它了。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，就麻煩部長。 |
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李部長遠：是，沒問題。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：麻煩文化部積極地處理。 |
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李部長遠：有，是，已經在做。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝。 |
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李部長遠：謝謝你。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員，部長請回。 |
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接下來請鄭正鈐、鄭正鈐，鄭正鈐委員不在。 |
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請楊瓊瓔、楊瓊瓔，楊瓊瓔委員不在。 |
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現在請徐富癸委員。 |
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主席、各位委員、有請部長。好,有請部長。部長好。政委員你好。辛苦了。馬如來基蘇,辛苦了。 |
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好 這個本代股稅在今期獎得獎感言這個大部分這個對我用比較中性的用詞對於他發這個今期獎感言天安門事件也是剛好35年大陸的很多的都對這個這樣的發言不滿意我用比較中性的不滿意 |
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這臺灣的很多人很滿意是不是這樣應該是吧我來說對原住民族而言大陸的漢人不滿意臺灣的漢人很滿意這是原住民族的角度我們看這個發言 |
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原住民族所看到的是什麼呢?巴奈古瑞他的發言得獎感言是說剛剛結束了7年在凱道的抗議為了原住民族群傳統領域的事情我們看到的是這個我們非常感謝他這樣的一個得獎感言然後他後面提到天安門事件對原住民族而言 |
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他這一句話我們都不要忘記多喔天安門事件不要忘記凱道事件也不要忘記對原住民族而言是這樣所以台灣要加油因為對原住民族而言都是統治者都是統治者然後對原住民族而言還有台語專輯獎榮獲 |
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最佳臺語專輯獎對原住民族而言包括客家人對用這個臺語這兩個字其實是很有意見的因為臺灣的原住民臺灣的語言臺灣的語言簡稱臺語應該包含著在臺灣的各個族群的語言這個是一個 |
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因為為什麼呢?你看這個本萊古瑞他在凱道一樣是被欺凌在台灣是被警察欺凌被警察欺凌在大陸是軍方欺凌這個是讓大家也了解一下今天的主題無化資產 |
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成功移彎教會我質詢了很多次這個移彎教會它是一個被列為歷史建築這樣的一個外牆這整個仍然一直到現在 |
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歷史古蹟 《文化資產保存法》第11條規定中央主管機關應寬列預算 專款辦理 援助民族文化資產的保存維護部長 當然你剛上任我從107年7月30號 |
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文化部也開了一個線上會議 |
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這個理由都不充分不能說因為有前面的那條道路有爭議就不處理這不應該是成為一個理由啦這個地主把這個其實也不是他的啦他已經是繼承道路鄉公政公所也把他列為繼承道路他黨就不應該黨 |
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所以你們要修這個歷史建築對不對當然可以啊對不對不能受到任何的影響所以這個部分要請這個 |
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前面的已經拆除了黨的也沒有了現在沒有理由了吧什麼時候可以執行報告鄭委員您這個教堂非常重要也非常漂亮然後我們已經開始處理了之前有一些產權問題還有其他問題全部寫到完畢我跟您保證我們會解決因為真的是很久很久了 |
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主席主席主席 |
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好 謝謝 謝謝鄭天財委員和部長請回 |