| IVOD_ID |
154505 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154505 |
| 日期 |
2024-07-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024062802 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
「公職人員選舉罷免法實務現況精進」公聽會 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會公聽會（事由：「公職人員選舉罷免法實務現況精進」公聽會） |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-07-03T11:45:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-07-03T11:51:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5ad2054f9b7cf4bdf3a2385c048e17138bd437f77bf0ffe2e8e3eb0bf88d021c12e53a1891d10d935ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:24 - 11:51:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-07-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會公聽會（事由：「公職人員選舉罷免法實務現況精進」公聽會） |
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今天我們的公聽會主題主要是針對在原住民參政權在選罷法當中如何設計規範但是事實上很熱門的大家關心的就是罷免門檻的提高這一題其實從過去長期觀察台灣的罷免的發起跟成功和失敗的例子其實有些根本的思維要做釐清首先我們有人提到分類我們的民選公職人員有首長行政首長跟民意代表 |
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民意代表的部分有單一選區跟複數選區單一選區的民意代表的選舉模式當然相較於行政首長是相近的因此在這種情況之下選民意識的表達透過多個候選人的競爭得到 |
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李卓人議員 |
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公投法同意票門檻 |
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有投票率有100位公民有超過一半來參與這次公民投票而參與投票當中贊成的多於反對那當然就是超過四分之一贊成的顯然超過四分之一如果贊成多於反對而且要多於四分之一就表示出席投票者有過半數來支持這個公民投票案 |
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所以如果用這個角度來思考,現行的罷免門檻有點是對於被提起罷免提案的公職人員進行一次類似公民投票的新人投票 |
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那麼從這個角度來看我們再回到第一個題目來看那到底單一選區跟複數選區就現實在操作上是不是出現了不一致的情況沒錯目前單一選區的公職人員的罷免門檻通常低於他的當選門檻可是相對的多席次的複數選區的民意代表 |
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他的罷免門檻是遠高於他的當選門檻所以我們用門檻門檻這個字來思考就忽略了其實罷免某個程度上他並不是針對該當選者受害的權利而是我要說的第三點形同對該次選區的公職人員進行一個不信任投票 |
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換言之目前的罷免的提議就可以視同為是不信任案的提出達到了二階段滿足了罷免門檻視同對於該選區的公職人員的一種不信任那接下來做什麼事情呢接下來就類似在一般內閣各種國家當 |
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對於內閣或對於國會的執政者有達到不信任的時候那通常要重新尋求民意是否支持支持誰所以接下來就是進行一個正式的選舉有沒有這樣的例子呢 有第四點我要說的是在現行美國加州的州長 |
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美國加州的州長的罷免制度他就是當這個目前的美國加州州長的罷免成案有三次最近在2022年那他的情況是怎樣先任的州長經過公民連署達到了罷免成立案的門檻之後那麼就擇定一天同時進行兩項投票 |
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第一項投票要同意是否罷免現職的這位州長那規定要罷免過50%這個罷免案才能夠同意但是同時選民會投下一個什麼票投下誰來接任的投票 |
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那當然現任面臨被罷免的州長：他也可以選擇同時列名在其上在這種情況之下：如果說第一項的同意票沒有過半數那第二項的第一名：就是沒有被罷免成功當然現任州長：不管你第二項的投票第一名是誰 |
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有可能第二項投票的第一名 州長沒有第一名 州長拿到45%第一名拿到46% 但是 可是呢 州長在罷免同意票上卻沒有過半這時候州長就沒有被罷免 但是如果州長被罷免了 那麼就由第二項的最高票來繼任州長當然啦 那如果最高票還是原來的州長呢 那就由次高票來擔任 |
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所以以這樣的思考來看這樣的一個罷免的設計他就無所...他當然還是有一個罷免門檻的過關但是呢他同時解決了選舉的經濟問題我們現在看到了目前前高雄市長被罷免的情況他在罷免之後還要再進行辦理補選 |
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公職人員選舉法實務現況精進 |
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我想這就涉及到罷免不得進行宣傳相關的對於罷免一種消極的規定所以如果從這樣來算我們有三個問題希望後續能夠思考第一罷免的對象要不要區分行政首長跟民意代表 |
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第二 罷免要不要區分單一選區跟複數選區第三 罷免的同時是不是要同時並同設計接任人選如果罷免成功接任人選的選舉以便讓整個社會的民意在同時去除原任者之後可以順利的馬上的產生下一位值得民意附託的人以上好 謝謝接下來我們請簡年佑同學 |