| IVOD_ID |
154495 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154495 |
| 日期 |
2024-07-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024062769 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
舉行「就業服務法家庭外籍看護聘僱制度探討」公聽會 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會公聽會（事由：舉行「就業服務法家庭外籍看護聘僱制度探討」公聽會） |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-07-03T11:23:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-07-03T11:31:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:23:05 - 11:31:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-07-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會公聽會（事由：舉行「就業服務法家庭外籍看護聘僱制度探討」公聽會） |
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謝謝主席還有各位與會代表那今天我們召開公聽會其實是源自於我們現在立法院有好幾個版本是針對這個八四良表的一個修正希望能夠在80歲以上能夠免這個八四良表 |
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李慧琼議員 |
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那麼家庭看護他們的申請之困難其實已經成為臺灣社會的一個非常非常長期的民怨那這也就是為什麼在去年的時候大家都知道總統大選的選舉那麼侯友宜他是其中候選人他提出來 |
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王鴻薇議員 |
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但是即使是如此這個問題就解決了嗎當然沒有解決那麼事實上我們今天看到我們在民間有多少如果我們今天將心比心我們設身處地大家可能要自問能不能夠去接受這樣的一個狀況 |
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有的有90歲的哥哥帶著這個80歲的弟弟去申請80兩表拜託醫生能夠開給他 |
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王鴻薇議員 |
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我特別要講 |
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我們的外籍家庭幫傭的申請之困難我們可能很多專家寫者他可能有很多的命向要照顧可是今天以我們的申請家庭幫傭的這些標準最近還有一個年輕人跟我講 |
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他說他的太太馬上要生三胎了我說很好啊我覺得在這個少子化的過程裡面我只到覺得年輕人願意生小孩願意生到第二個願意生到第三個我都覺得政府應該頒獎狀給他才對然後他就跟我抱怨他說因為呢即便是他的太太即將要生小孩可是因為好像他的這個老大已經到6歲了 |
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王鴻薇議員王鴻薇議員 |
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要怎麼樣的方式我們才能夠申請到呢你可能要有兩個兩歲以下的子女你要去照顧一個兩個兩歲以下子女應該很辛苦了吧不行你還要再加上一個78歲以上的長者你才能夠申請到然後我另外一個案例那你要同時有一歲三歲五歲可以了吧 |
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對不要說對一個媽媽了父母加起來有時候有公公婆婆來幫一歲三歲五歲是不是很辛苦想也知道很辛苦我自己有三個小孩我還好我的三個小孩都長大了我看到這個我都覺得他們很辛苦你能申請到嗎不行還是沒有辦法達到你還要加一個79歲以上長者 |
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也就是說如果你家裡有長者要同時你有小孩的話你看這樣的狀況你才能夠申請到無怪乎現在我們有這麼多的這個年輕的夫婦不願生小孩他怎麼辦呢剛才也有特別提到說如果啊我們這樣子的開放的話可能對於健康的老人會被排斥什麼叫做健康的老人 |
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王鴻薇議員王鴻薇議員 |
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你放心讓他在家裡你放心如果你家裡是沒有電梯的對不起很多都沒有電梯對不對他隨時隨地上下樓梯他就跌倒了他可能到超市他突然走不出超市來這樣的狀況請問一下你作為人子女你覺得你該怎麼照顧他你放心讓他一個人嗎你該怎麼辦 |
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辭職在家嗎我真的有很多朋友為了要照顧他的父母最後我都覺得他好優秀但他沒有辦法他說沒有辦法這樣子的民眾他該怎麼辦所以當你講說健康老人會排斥有時候我在想為什麼八十兩秒這麼困難好 我自己作為一個女性 |
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我要講的是我們作為女性在臺灣長期以來的問題就是我們的婦女的勞動參與率的偏低而且隨著年齡尤其30歲以後你的勞動參與率就漸漸下降為什麼你要回復到如果你有小孩你就可能要照顧幼我剛剛講嗎你生了三個我覺得這個國家真的應該感謝你用什麼樣方式來感謝你 |
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王鴻薇議員 |
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幫這些我剛才所講的這些狀況能夠幫忙想一想任何一個人自己設身處地是同樣的狀況的時候我們該怎麼辦所以這也就是為什麼我們要提出這個八十兩表的修正事實上我個人我覺得不止八十歲以上的八十兩表修正甚至幼子女的也一定要放寬啊不然我們憑什麼去跟年輕的夫婦講說請你們生小孩請你們生小孩我怎麼生啊 |
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王鴻薇 |