IVOD_ID |
154455 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154455 |
日期 |
2024-07-03 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024062769 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
舉行「就業服務法家庭外籍看護聘僱制度探討」公聽會 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會公聽會(事由:舉行「就業服務法家庭外籍看護聘僱制度探討」公聽會) |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-07-03T09:52:24+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-07-03T10:01:50+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:26 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5ad2054f9b7cf4bd415b6ecfa7bdcbf2916d49e9c2c49f91d15f5ccb8d26769b3b1dc20caf5ad1f75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
委員發言時間 |
09:52:24 - 10:01:50 |
會議時間 |
2024-07-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會公聽會(事由:舉行「就業服務法家庭外籍看護聘僱制度探討」公聽會) |
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主席還有各位學者專家還有我們立委同仁還有我們行政同仁大家早台灣現在有請外籍看護就是外勞在家裡照顧的有將近23萬多的家庭23萬幾戶這23萬幾戶 |
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是有需要現在也在請一個外勞進來他的薪水是兩萬多塊兩萬一兩萬二如果假日他沒有出去還要加薪給他另外一算還要幫他保健保保險還有就業安定費還要管吃管住一個外勞一個月的費用差不多要三萬幾塊可能還要多 |
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今年差不多要四十萬這二十三萬的家庭今年開的錢定於九百二十億九百二十億喔那這些人不是玩八蛋啊他們不是白癡啊 |
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這921已經比我們一年的長照用公務預算還多那剛剛司長跟我講台灣在用長照ABC的家庭差不多人差不多有50出頭萬嘛你多少共50萬嘛他有在用失智的多少剛剛沒有跟我講那這樣他一年的預算我沒有記錯是700多億那這些請外勞的家庭他已經跟我們分攤了900多億啊 |
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這些家庭:年輕人每天去買經濟:老人家在家了解起來:想輸藥是在陪伴這些老人家第一就是跟他照顧日常:還有陪伴他24小時最怕的是老人家是怕跌倒因為一個老人家如果跌倒現在骨質疏鬆他就骨折 |
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開刀、臥床、就疲累了差不多要死了一個骨盆腔或大腿骨骨折我們是外科醫師如果沒有給他開刀他就臥床他動不動很快就泌尿道感染很快就入床我們有統計活不會超過半年開刀只是固定開刀最重要是固定再來是慢慢的復健再來做輪椅等等 |
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越老的越需要,你現在A長照ABC的來,只來一小時,來兩小時,看一看,拍拍屁股就走人,請問其他的22個小時誰陪他,獨居的很多捏 |
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我們東港鎮裡面獨居就這麼多了所以這些是有需求的人他來他當然是有需求沒有在吃飽心情的人放在那裡那年輕人可以去拚經濟那我說不對所以我跟大家報告也不用講到那麼的嚴重他有需求他去請那以前的巴士量表就是很麻煩剛剛陳清惠醫師有講等一下王振旭醫師他會不會講我不知道 |
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我臨床醫師我一天到晚沒人要開就來我這裡我就好好評估會不會做假當然會做假他來就做如你來啊表現到最嚴重的程度給你看啊你看到也是那個現在為了要完善還要兩個婦理人員一起打溫宿我覺得這個 |
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很繁瑣啦然後衛生局的長照小組的再來評估一次等等會覺得讓醫師擔當很大壓力那現在因為80歲以上80亮表示55分所以就比較寬鬆以前35分真的是王八蛋訂出來的幾個人可以符合 |
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所以這一直在改是好事那在選舉的時候我有一個提出來八十歲以上不用錄檢報八十歲以上不用八十兩票歡迎很好我們的執政黨馬上跟進馬上開放剛剛次長講的幾項幾項多元評估等等巴拉巴拉的那柯文哲也提了就是說為什麼因為有這個需求性嘛我又說一句另外一句 |
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兩萬多塊你拚不拚一份啊一份是同工同酬啊一份的老人一戶可以拿三萬五千塊的老人給付我們去考察好幾次差三萬五拿到他就去安養中心安養中心四人房就三萬五台幣 |
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兩人房就是五萬多塊台幣,單人房就七萬多塊台幣,你如果要住兩人房你就要排隊,就要自己搭所以日本的安養院,我去看十間,名古屋、大阪、八王子區等等都排隊,譬如說八王子一個安養院它是可以收370幾個,外面排隊的900多個 |
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那請問這些老人在哪裡就在家裡就在家裡那日本人又不喜歡去那裡嘻嘻嘩嘩老人家飛啦大媽跳街舞他們不喜歡他們都靜靜的在家裡所以日本的社工最主要的事情就是每天靠電話洗衣櫥洗一個白天沒人知道在民國屋看很多所以每一個 |
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族群有沒有一個族群部要不要一個國家部要不要一個國群日本人就不可以出去外面讓人家去外面台灣人以前可以讓人家飛媽媽搬就這樣出去所以這萬丹你萬丹人萬丹人就多所以我要說的就是不一樣他有訴求的家庭我們有一些委員怕他有錢就要叫一些人來陪伴我相信總會成員沒有多 |
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公聽會:蘇清泉 |
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所以這就是你家庭自己顧足你自己的心態嘛所以也不要把這個80歲以上免84年表看得那麼嚴重啦你後面還有配套你的長照小組也可以常常去看嘛我跟你講喔你有種的話你政府把這23萬現在拼外勞的家庭都借過去他有沒有 你有沒有辦法沒有人花九百幾要花幾毛的另外一個來 第二張slide |
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我要跟大家報告的大家不要仇視繳稅多的人這對大家的講話很大台灣的家庭戶數662萬戶沒有繳稅的喔沒有繳稅的占了44.16%292萬戶沒在繳稅 |
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一千萬加零數一千萬進所得才一萬一千八百七十六萬負占總數的零點一八Percent但是這些人呢繳了多少繳了二十二點六的所得稅那五百萬以上的才四萬九千負這兩組人加起來付了四十幾趴的所得稅所以人們常常這樣籌付我覺得這些人要給他 |
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祝福祝福祝福祝福祝福祝福祝福祝福祝福祝福祝 |
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要珍惜,就像美國總統講的,這些有錢人繳多一點稅,所以國家有貢獻。差不多10年都是這樣,所以我對他們非常尊敬,希望他們賺多一點,繳多一點。 |
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謝謝蘇清泉委員的發言 |