| IVOD_ID |
154426 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154426 |
| 日期 |
2024-07-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-1-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第20次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期第20次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-07-02T10:38:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-07-02T10:54:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/67413232838a15478276e96cc98bb9f22c12d918673f79f1a10a312273395242da132672c464fa9d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:02 - 10:54:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-07-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第20次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢。
二、6月28日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。
三、7月2日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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460 |
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謝委員龍介：（10時38分）主席，我請郭部長。 |
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主席：請郭部長備詢。 |
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謝委員龍介：院長不用啦！貴人坐著休息就好。 |
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郭部長智輝：委員好。 |
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謝委員龍介：部長你好。你辛苦了，出國幾天？ |
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郭部長智輝：8天。 |
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謝委員龍介：8天，辛苦了。我請問你，賴總統聘請你的時候，有沒有跟你說核能發電不能說？ |
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郭部長智輝：沒有這樣說。 |
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謝委員龍介：他沒有這樣說嘛！你也是一個企業家，我們南部小孩那個勇氣，勇敢面對臺灣現在能源布局的困境，這個困境是大家都理解的，如果用意識形態灌注在這個困境裡面，變成你我就沒辦法理性在這個國會殿堂來探討了，所以剛開始卓院長帶領你們這些團隊來的時候，我充滿期望：這不一樣啦！這個DNA跟民進黨的意識不同，臺灣有救了！殊不知你回去吃一頓飯，你的思想就被人改造了，柯建銘哪有那麼大的魔力呢？我對你很不捨啊！我也做過企業，如果一個企業界的人都沒辦法誠實面對他自己的人生及其所言的一切，那個企業是沒願景也沒前途，更無法受到社會大眾的認同。 |
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總統成立了三個委員會，他的內閣組成一個月的時候，他就宣布要設三個委員會，這個清德兄說實在的可真糟糕！才剛把卓院長拱上檯面，卻晾在那邊把你忽略，於是大家就有樣學樣，沒樣就自己想，「大狗盤牆，細狗看樣」。我現在跟你講。卓院長在4天前也宣布要成立一個經濟發展委員會，那時你人還不在國內，我是替你打抱不平，所以我今天沒請他上來。 |
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郭部長智輝：謝謝委員，這個部分，我想所有諮詢委員們的意思是說，形成一個大家的共識…… |
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謝委員龍介：不要緊，我瞭解，有委屈你也不方便在這邊講。這一個多月的期間，大概也有40天了，你是哪天向卓院長表示你對這個職務有倦勤的想法？你是何時向他表達的？ |
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郭部長智輝：我想我們這個團隊都是一夥的，我是隨時都能向院長報告，隨時都能得到院長的支持。 |
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謝委員龍介：你是何時……因為這也是人家跟我說的，我認為受到委屈就應該要勇敢面對，你應該要用你的專業，和你對臺灣現在陷入這個困境，我想你到美國才敢說真話。 |
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臺灣人真奇怪，想用電卻不讓人發電，要喝水卻不讓人建水庫，我跟你講，不是臺灣人奇怪，是民進黨奇怪，我們都要很務實地面對這些問題啊！所以對於你表達倦勤之意，我是感同身受，也能夠理解，只是才一個多月而已，是難看了點。如果你即刻表達此意，這個內閣很快就會崩盤，因為我已經跟院長講過了，賴總統的個性我太瞭解了，他這個人就是「捏驚死，放驚飛」嘛！聘請你過來又不敢讓你大力去做事情，你對他也有一些誤判，我不知道我這樣跟你講，你內心能不能體會？他希望你能替他突破這個神主牌，結果你剛開始的時候還不錯，他對你的風評也不錯，覺得這個部長沒辜負我任用他的苦心，結果你突破沒兩下，和柯建銘吃頓飯就退縮了，這就表示你不瞭解賴清德。其實他聘請你來當部長就是希望你能夠去突破，你能撐多久則在其次。 |
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你的突破讓他可以有空間去調整整個國家的能源政策，這樣你對臺灣提出了貢獻，這是你最大的功能。如果你是回到非核的神主牌內，這個部長就不需要你當了，對不對？他可以隨便找個民進黨的人，讓王美花繼續做就好了嘛！所以用你的精髓就在這裡，你沒有體會到，所以才會造成這一個多月以來的矛盾。部長你看看，你也不用點頭，我知道你為難啦！基於政治倫理，你也不便在這裡表達這些，你要繼續拚嗎？ |
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我們現在就說這個核三廠好了，7月到了，剛剛院長才跟人家說，只要法律修正通過，我就依法行政，我也知道你是依法行政，我也是依法行政，但你沒有一個態度。經濟部願意針對這個法提出你們的版本嗎？一句話就好。 |
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郭部長智輝：經濟部如果大院通過這個…… |
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謝委員龍介：不用大院通過，我們要修法，你們要不要相挺？我跟你說，你不能都靠我們，你拿我們的拳頭去打石獅子，對不對？我是無所謂…… |
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郭部長智輝：委員，我向你報告…… |
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謝委員龍介：我敢挺你，但是你敢讓我挺嗎？ |
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郭部長智輝：謝謝，我相信應該可以讓你挺。 |
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謝委員龍介：你敢讓我挺就對了？ |
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郭部長智輝：當然是，我為國家、為百姓來做事情。 |
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謝委員龍介：所以你話這樣講就有藝術，對不對？ |
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郭部長智輝：我為國家、為百姓來做事情，我當然是需要大家…… |
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謝委員龍介：是啊！所以核能不繼續臺灣人要死嘛！說更難聽的，要發展什麼？我跟你說，以前我們騎摩托車是二行程的，你跟我差不多同年，二行程的你有騎過嗎？ |
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郭部長智輝：有。 |
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謝委員龍介：南部二行程的…… |
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郭部長智輝：偉士牌。 |
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謝委員龍介：對，你還知道偉士牌，再來是吃高級的，我跟你說，現在都吃電的，摩托車也吃電，車也吃電，家庭用品也吃電，AI也吃電，機器人也吃電，你只有用太陽能發電，這張相片你看一下。院長，你可以上來了，請你。 |
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主席：卓院長請備詢。 |
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謝委員龍介：部長，你辛苦、委屈，但是要堅強啦！一定挺你的啦！ |
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郭部長智輝：謝謝。 |
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謝委員龍介：院長，這張相片是世界知名的國家地理雜誌2023年攝影比賽地方組的冠軍，這張相片全世界大家看得很恐怖，在我們臺南六甲，太陽能發電的官商勾結，我一直跟你們說，你都跟我說有辦，院長，不是不能發展太陽能，我們南部人沒有人排斥太陽能發電，你聽懂了嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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謝委員龍介：臺南第一名，屏東現在第二名，快要超越我們臺南了，你這趟有回去枋寮看過嗎？搞到農民是欲哭無淚，我跟你說這個勾結在哪裡？它就是因為我們國家為了要發電，沒辦法，我們要發電要用政策來支持它，對不對？這合理啊！可是它利用我們政策的模糊空間，「鰗鰡巡便空」。我跟你說，農地買賣免稅，院長，你知道嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：嗯。 |
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謝委員龍介：他用農地買賣，然後用假的實價登記，譬如我跟你買2億，我登記6億，結果農民是免稅的，免稅之後登記6億叫做實價登記，他實際付2億而已，我說到這裡法務部還沒辦法查，叫它包起來。6億跟銀行借多少？可以借4億8，最笨的可以借4億2，我們的銀行是全力配合，為什麼銀行要借4億2？銀行不會虧，因為他說未來20年發電的收入可以攤還，所以銀行沒有風險，再來他的設備銀行一樣可以貸款，一見面就先在我們國家花2億買地，然後就先撈2.5億回去。院長，我跟你說，過去的勾結跟你卓榮泰內閣完全沒有關係，這我也敢跟你保證，但是你如果不查就變成包庇，你就有關係。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我會查、會查。 |
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謝委員龍介：會查？肯定會查？ |
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卓院長榮泰：會查。 |
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謝委員龍介：你這個「查」不是為了我謝龍介查的…… |
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卓院長榮泰：當然不是。 |
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謝委員龍介：是為臺灣人，為了我們後面…… |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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謝委員龍介：我跟你說，我們現在要從8.5%到15%，未來要發展到30%，因為若是核能能夠再重啟，這是好事，若是不能，若太陽能發電沒有提升到25%以上、甚至不到30%以上，未來光是世界的碳費、碳權，我告訴你，企業界沒有幾個撐得住的，我還語重心長的跟你說，過去8年碳權的事情，我很捨不得，政府空轉，甚至現在大家都搞不清楚，尤其歐盟。最近美國這個系統，大家去種一大堆樹，你也知道是作假的。去年8月臺灣有成立碳權交易中心，說實在是掩人耳目，很難看、很漏氣，有交易嗎？你說要打擊黑金，清德兄也說要打擊黑金，你知不知道我們的碳權交易中心成立在哪裡？ |
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卓院長榮泰：碳費的收費，我們現在要進入一個階段…… |
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謝委員龍介：碳權交易中心、交易所，你不知道我們臺灣有碳權交易所？ |
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卓院長榮泰：就像你說的，那個功能不好。 |
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謝委員龍介：我們有成立耶！去年8月我們國家有成立耶！ |
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卓院長榮泰：我知道沒功能。 |
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謝委員龍介：除了沒功能外，我再跟你說它成立在哪裡。你知道獵雷艦的慶富案？你聽過嗎？掏空我們兩百多億，而這個交易所竟然成立在慶富大樓的二樓，為什麼？是民進黨欠他很多，還是臺灣人欠他很多？院長，這些你都要去查啦！ |
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卓院長榮泰：地點跟實際運作的，應該不是絕對啦！ |
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謝委員龍介：當然啦！ |
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卓院長榮泰：我剛剛講到碳費、碳權，就是因為我們現在一些子法還沒完成，我們7月5日就要開始進入新的階段。 |
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謝委員龍介：沒有啦！臺灣那麼多地方可以成立，為什麼偏偏去跟慶富租二樓？租金怎樣、裝修費怎樣，那些讓檢察官去查，那個跟你沒關係啦！ |
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卓院長榮泰：司法調查後我再向委員報告。 |
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謝委員龍介：我要跟你講的是，口罩有國家隊，雞蛋有國家隊，快篩也有國家隊，我覺得你新的內閣要有新的魄力手段，你知道現在各大醫院的輸液都不夠，為什麼你會把署長換下來？你換下來是正確的，若你沒換下來，我跟你說，我砲火就開下去了。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我完全尊重衛福部人事的考慮，我支持。 |
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謝委員龍介：因為怎麼樣？輸液可以成立國家隊嗎？你把那間本來在生產的公司，不管這間公司對不對，它違規，你就處罰它，結果一處罰變成不能生產，但它的產能這麼大，你現在還要花三、四倍的錢去外面進口，你進口的這間是否又是另外一間小吃店我是不知道啦！誰去進口的、憑什麼可以進口？食藥署耶！食藥署是不是能派人進駐並徵收這間工廠，它現在是停業，我們不讓它做了、停牌嘛！ |
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卓院長榮泰：它違反製作過程。 |
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謝委員龍介：現在一進去，立即恢復生產，在國家的監控之下，可以用這樣的手段做嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們最近剛決定要加強跟這個公司協調，看要怎麼改善它的生產設備，在短時間內一定要提出一個解決方法。 |
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謝委員龍介：不用協調啦，用強硬的手段，在沒有影響到公司企業原本的權益之下，用強硬的手段去執行，解決燃眉之急，院長，這才是做事的態度啦！ |
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還有，你說電價審議委員會一年開兩次，你是不好意思宣布，我在這裡替你宣布，今年度絕對不會再漲電價，你們儘管放心，這是我謝龍介說的，不是卓榮泰院長說的啦！你不好意思在這裡這樣說，會對那些委員不夠尊重啦！對不對？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我尊重委員。 |
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主席：謝謝謝委員，謝謝卓院長。 |
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報告院會，經濟組之質詢已詢答完畢，休息10分鐘，休息之後進行財政組之質詢。現在休息。 |
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休息（10時54分） |
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繼續開會（11時4分） |
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180 |
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院會-11-1-20 |
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韓國瑜 |
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江啟臣 |
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羅明才 |
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張智倫 |
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涂權吉 |
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沈發惠 |
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徐富癸 |
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賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
吳琪銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
鍾佳濱 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
鄭正鈐 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
謝龍介 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
謝衣鳯 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
林德福 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
吳秉叡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
黃珊珊 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
丁學忠 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
呂玉玲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
張宏陸 |
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郭昱晴 |
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陳培瑜 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─ |
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主席,我請國務部長。請國務部長。國務部長。議長你不用了。這幾人喔,要坐在後面就好。委員好。國務部長你好。你好。你辛苦。出國幾日?八天。 |
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北京喔,辛苦。我請問你,大總統獻請你的時候,剛好跟你說,婦人發展不能說。沒有這樣說。你沒有這樣說嘛齁。你也是一個契約,我們南部的勇氣,勇敢面對台灣現在靈魂破局的困境。 |
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這個困境是大家都理解,那如果用意識形態貫注在這個困境裡面,變成理我就都沒辦法理性在這個國會電檔來探討。所以大家開始對行政院長抓到你們這個團隊來的時候,我從來不問啦,這不一樣啦,這DNA跟民進黨的那個 |
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議席不講,這臺灣有救啊!那個蘇不迪,你回去吃一頓飯,你總要輸送去給改造的,你才會掛件名啊,有這麼大的魔力勒?我推你做不敢啦!我也是做過企業啊! |
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如果一個企業跟別人就無法相識面對他自己的人生﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖ |
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這樣讓我把一個倒硬帳撥起來等下硬帳倒定在那裡遞湯。跳過人過。我這樣來有用看用,沒有用自己想了。大到八成、小到十成,我現在跟你講倒硬帳在四天前,他還是選擇一個經濟發展委員會。你人又沒有在國內,好,我是替你打保不平,所以我今天不請你起來。 |
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謝謝委員,這個部分我相信所有的諮詢委員的意思就是說平時的大家共識啦。沒關係,我了解啦,有危困,你也不方便在這裡說嘛。我聽說在這個國會的中間,大概已經40天,你是做一天把兌現標示你對這個進步。 |
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有冠琴的想法,你怎麼表達的?我相信我們的團隊都是組織,我隨時都可以跟議長報告,隨時可以接到議長的支持。你回過頭來,因為人家跟我說的嘛,我認為說受到威脅,你應該勇敢來面對啦。你應該就是說用你的專業,用到你對台灣現在陷入這個困境, |
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大家都要來,我想說你去到美國還要講很多話,要跟台灣人很奇怪,要吃電,不想用發電,要喝水,不想用汽水口。我跟你說,不是台灣人奇怪,是民進黨奇怪。我們都做無心的面對這個問題啊。所以對著你表達這個冠情就對了,我是感動深受,我可以理解。 |
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大家再多多看一看,你之前有表達我們這個內閣很快就崩了,因為我已經跟議長說過了,老總統的性我太了解了,他這個人就是什麼,爹、嫁、四、胖、嫁、胖嘛,把你騙下來,又不夠讓你大力去做事情,也給你對他有一個誤判。我不知道我這樣跟你說,你內心要退回啦,他希望你就是替他去突破這個新主牌, |
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結果你大家開始不錯喔!他對你的風評也不錯喔!這個部長沒顧及我用他的課金!結果你一個突破沒弄的!跟外界明擲一頓飯就要救他!那就表示你不瞭解辣兄弟了!其實他聘請你來做部長就是希望你去突破!那你可以動外顧,那是基礎啊! |
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你去突破讓他有空間來調整整個國家的臨環政策,這樣你對台灣提出貢獻。這是你最大的功能。如果你如果是回到那個恢復靈的新珠牌裡面,這樣這個部長他就不需要你了嘛。對不對?他就親自叫民進黨,這樣完美化繼續做就好了。所以要贏你的精髓在這裡。 |
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你沒有一個態度 |
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經濟部願意針對這個法提出你的版本嗎?這句話經濟部如果我們團圓如果我們同歸這個...不用團圓同歸,我們要修法,你有要收聽?我跟你說,你不能都靠我啦!你拿我的棍頭不去做事,對不對?我是沒差的!委員我幫你補償我敢幫你收聽,但是你敢給我聽嗎?謝謝,我相信應該可以給你聽啦 |
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你這樣讓我停就對了!所以你為這樣說就算了嘛!對不對?是啊!所以這婚姻部介紹的台灣人要死嘛!說那麼壞還要發生什麼事?我告訴你以前我們騎摩托車是吃離附近的,你看我差不多變成那個肥啦!離附近的你有沒有騎過?沒有啊!我們南部對不對?離附近的!威士堡!沒錯!你還要知道威士堡! |
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來,主委院長請備詢 |
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市長,你辛苦了,但是要謹記,一定會聽你的啦。市長,這就是世界第一名,國家第21、2023年,贏贏比賽第一名的冠軍啦。這就是為什麼全世界大家看得很恐怖,在我們台南落架。 |
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太陽能發電的過程最糟糕,我一直跟你們說,你們都跟我說有辦法,因為不是不能發電太陽能,我們南北南無人擺脫太陽能發電,你聽到沒有?是。台南第一名,屏東現在第二名,將要落過我們台南了,你這次不知道有沒有回去旁邊看一看沒有啊。衝到農民是要哭無幕賽啦,齁? |
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我告訴你這個狡猾在哪裡?他就是因為我們國家委員會發展,沒辦法立法,我們要發展,我們要用政策來支持,對不對?這合理啊!可是他利用我們政策,模糊的空間,保留順便康。我跟你說,龍蝶買不買水你知道嗎?他用龍蝶買不買? |
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臨後用假的10個定期,例如說我給你買2億,我定期6億,給各農民的,他是免稅的。我們免稅之後,這個定期6億叫做10個定期,他10個付2億而已,啊如果我公告這裡我沒有報告,沒有再調查,叫他包起來。6億銀行這麼多,可以做4億倍。 |
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對阿! |
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他跟我說,我跟你說的是過去的局局跟你對應台的內閣完全無關的。這我也跟你回應了。但是你若沒查就變成保庇。你對有關的。會查?會查?全局會查?會查。你這個查不是為了我謝龍介查的。當然不是。為台灣人。是。 |
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為了我們阿伯,我告訴你,我們現在要對10%,北京5%到15%,發展到30%未來啦,因為你,如果婚姻,可以重複,這是好事,如果是要動, |
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你若這個太陽營發電若沒有下升到25%以上,我會說你現在說的20%沒有,甚至沒有30%以上,未來跟這個世界的脫費、脫款,我告訴你,這企業沒幾個賺得到的。我再重新告訴你,過去的八年,脫款的事情, |
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很不敢,政府抗爭,甚至選出來,什麼都沒來中,什麼都沒來中,尤其歐盟啊。最近美國這個系統,大家想我講一大堆,你也知道,過的。九年八月,在台灣有升入托款教育中心, |
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那實在講,那摩斯暗幕啊,很難看,很漏氣啊,我有教育沒有啊。啊你說要打擊五金,聖地兄說要打擊五金啊。你知不知道我們的打款教育中心在哪裡?打費的收費,我們現在要進行一個改善。打款的教育中心啊,教育所啦。你不知道我們台灣有打款教育所?就這麼講的那個公領,都... |
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我們有勝任的,我們九年八月國高有勝任的。沒有公認,我知道。沒有公認,沒有公認基礎,那勝任在哪裡我告訴你。這個雷震、蠟燭的慶富案你知道嗎?你聽到沒有?知道嗎?把我們掏空兩百多年。這個高野獸竟然去勝任在慶富大樓的二樓。現在為什麼民進黨欠他很多錢?還是台灣人欠他很多錢? |
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臺灣那些臺灣所謂的成立,你獨自去跟政府做這個理由。 |
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所謂安裝裝修復安裝,那讓檢察官去查啦,那和你無關的啦。我跟你說的就是這樣嘛。我調查一下給委員報告。水安有國家隊,雞蛋有國家隊。我可以有國家隊,我感覺你新內閣要有新配樂的手段嘛。你知道現在國大變異,這輸贏都不夠嘛。 |
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為什麼你會把這個輸掉換下來?你換下來是正確的。你沒換下來,我跟你說,我泡沫就把你開下去了。我完全尊重合不保運的臨時的考慮啦,我支持。因為怎麼樣?這輸液,可以成立國家隊嗎?你把一間人本來在生產,不管這間公司對不對,他就違規你給他出發嘛。出發變不成生產嘛。他的三年那天大。 |
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你現在又開三、四倍錢去外面進口!你進口的這間不知道是不是又是另外一間小吃店,我是不知道啦!啊誰去進口的?憑什麼可以進口?你是不是會當食藥署、食藥署咧?派出另外一間店把錢收這間工廠!他現在是停了,我們不可以讓他走了嘛!停牌嘛! |
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委員製庭的規定：一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十、十 |
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阿還有齁,你說電解、起解委員會齁,一天開兩倍嘛齁,阿你是抱歉選擇啦,我是在這裡替你選擇。今年剛好對不上起電解,你們做你們放心啦齁,這謝龍介講的不是對應台議長講的啦,他抱歉在這裡這樣講啦,對他的委員沒夠尊重啦,對不對?我尊重委員 |
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謝謝謝委員謝謝卓院長 |