| IVOD_ID |
154108 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154108 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-1-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-19T16:08:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-19T16:20:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3367213ea81ee14222ac3b59c53804cec8204f6a4417db433867d048431dc7355b99e55e91f9650e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳素月 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:08:55 - 16:20:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議（事由：審查「立法院職權行使法」修正部分條文、「中華民國刑法」增訂第五章之一章名及第一百四十一條之一條文等覆議案。） |
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主席 |
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主任長午安辛苦了這一次行政院就是針對藍白強推的這個國會擴全法案來提出這個復議那目前就是有這個臺灣民意基金會做了這個民意的調查有高達五成二的民眾支持我們行政院提出復議這個院長有注意到這個訊息嗎 |
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陳素月議員 |
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陳素月議員 |
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來到這裡的立法院外面的這些朋友們應該是認為自己在國家裡面基本的人權受到了傷害在看到立法院在整個審查職權行使法的過程當中他們沒有發覺符合形式上的任何正義以及很多在內容規定上是不明確的、是空洞的 |
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所以也對於憲法的一個捍衛的精神所以他們願意挺身而出像現在我們都不知道外面是否在下雨但他們還是在吶喊我覺得我們應該努力讓他們不必這麼辛苦 |
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是的,事實上在這四天的院會的表決的過程當中這麼多的青鳥來到立法院外來聲援那這個實例也有做了一份的這個民調事實上來到這個院外的這些青鳥朋友有高達92.6%他們是認為這個法案的審查程序不合理 |
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是的。 |
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所以在這幾次的這些青鳥朋友們他們是自主性站出來的可是南白他們仍然看不清楚這一點仍然一直認為說是民進黨動員的你想我們有那麼大的動員能力嗎所以其實我們還是要希望南白要正視這個民意如果說他們還是執意認為說這個是我們民進黨動員的那將會讓他們自己錯估形勢你說是不是 院長 |
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對的 我希望大家 正如我說的 大家都有民主的DNA為國家的更進步 應該有一個更好的法案所以希望能夠用覆議的方式 讓大院重新審視內容 |
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事實上今天從早到現在也是很多的藍白委員一直在說這個過程有討論有公聽會剛剛有委員說有三次的公聽會有學者這個不是討論嗎他真的搞錯了因為公聽會是要徵詢專家學者的意見 |
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召委排審的這個會議的時候他們在質詢完進入主條的時候他們就是全部都保留沒有讓我們主條的討論全部保留要送院會來協商到院會也沒有實質的一個協商所以這就沒有實質的討論啊所以這一點很多的中學生小學生都看得很清楚了 |
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我們很遺憾就是說有的藍白的委員到現在還在自己在欺騙自己那包括在我們民進黨的委員這個專家兵召委排審的這個會議藍白委員竟然用強行表決的方式來散會把我們民進黨的一個法案全部都打包了這個真的是非常的阿拔的行為 |
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322.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
323.355 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
民主的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
349.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
370.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
所以在這次的這樣子的一個輕描的行動裡面審查程序的不合理包括這個黑箱在這個條文就是他不僅把我們民進黨的法案改革的內容就是打包之外他們甚至在5月17號要開這個院會的前一天晚上 |
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371.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
388.111 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
王國昌自己接受這個記者的訪問的時候他自己也很明白的說這個動議的內容是他跟翁小林委員直接討論的那這個記者問他內容的時候他甚至也說這是最高機密所以他自己明白的都說是最高機密的 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
389.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
389.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
藍白強推國會擴權法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
407.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
412.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
實際上是假改革增擴權,因為其中有很重要的幾點,一個就是侵犯了我們人民的基本的人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
426.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
444.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
在這個調查選的行使上面他要求說政府機關部隊法人團體或社會上有關係的人員就是只要有調查的需求他就必須在5日內提供相關的文件等等要來提供那如果不提供的話甚至就是會被處以這個罰款 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
446.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
446.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
李卓人議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
469.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
497.467 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
在這次的這個改革的法案裡面就是他有提到這個增訂了不得反質詢就是針對官員的部分不得反質詢還有不得虛偽陳述不得有這個藐視國會等等可是就這個部分何謂反質詢何謂藐視國會連他們自己的召委吳宗憲都沒有辦法清楚的定義所以他要叫如何叫這個官員來遵守這樣子的一個法令呢對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
498.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
526.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
這一個部分我們也要去思考我們民主國家每個人民都有這個言論的一個自由那當然民意代表可以有質詢甚至享有這個言論免責權可是官員也有權利也有這個言論的自由去捍衛他的政策跟為他的這個政策來辯護啊是不是所以說在這個部分如果這個質詢者認為官員的答覆讓他沒有面子他就認為說是反質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
527.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
528.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
政府跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
558.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
568.839 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
質詢調查聽證的這個規定當中有一個更為我內心擔心的他說接受詢問等等立法院調查的範圍擴張到 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
571.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
589.692 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
對相關議案或者與立法委員職權相關的事項相關議案就是今天要討論什麼這個是相關議案立法委員職權相關那包山包海所以我今天一再的要反覆的演練什麼叫做一定要在質詢的範圍中來答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
591.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
592.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
所以我們基於捍衛人民的人權還有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
616.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
616.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
﹚陳素月 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
641.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
664.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
謝謝 |