IVOD_ID |
154106 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154106 |
日期 |
2024-06-19 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-1-1 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
1 |
會議資料.會次 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-06-19T15:47:05+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-06-19T15:57:59+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:10:54 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3367213ea81ee1427d2c093e6e2f9870c8204f6a4417db433867d048431dc735b62c4ba8584081235ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
委員發言時間 |
15:47:05 - 15:57:59 |
會議時間 |
2024-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議(事由:審查「立法院職權行使法」修正部分條文、「中華民國刑法」增訂第五章之一章名及第一百四十一條之一條文等覆議案。) |
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請卓院長說明 |
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法律的制定是要扶國利民,不是禍國殃民。法律的制定是要保護人民,而不是傷害人民、威脅人民。法律是要解決問題,不是製造問題。當然一個立法院通過的法律,讓人家覺得是禍國殃民、傷害人民、製造很多社會問題、國家問題,當然就是一個毀憲亂政的法案。 |
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當然行政院有這個責任要提出覆議您同意嗎?完全支持委員的講法我們也是基於這個責任來提出覆議的國會議員的權利是來自於憲法跟人民我們依照憲法所賦予的國會委員的職責去執行各項的這個立法院的職權包括預算審查包括這個這個議決法律案重大國家重大事項的議決案 |
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不僅權利來自於這個憲法也來自於人民因為我們是人民選出來的所以我們要對憲法負責也要對人民負責一個違憲的法案所得到的權利就是違憲的權利違憲的權利只會造成更多國家的危機憲政危機如果你的這個 |
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權力得不到人民的認可得不到人民的同意當然一定會受到民意的唾棄所以這邊也要呼籲藍白兩黨的這個國會議員宣牙勒馬在後天站在台灣人民這一邊站在維護憲法秩序的這一邊看整個立法的過程憲法第63條規定 |
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立法院有異決國家法律案異決異決立事會先異後決嘛整個過程中啊大家看到從4月1號開始排審排審在委員會在軍務公聽會然後呢在經過朝野協商在院長協商一直到二三讀都沒有完整的討論這個程序所以異就是要討論所有國會議員在每一個程序都要充分的參與 |
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非常遺憾整個過程沒有讓所有的國會議員來充分表達意見不管代表選區還是代表這個人民的意志都沒有讓我們針對整個法案提出完整的我們看法就在二讀之後每一個人輪流分配到一次發言發言一次之後立刻怎麼樣立刻停止討論這怎麼是討論呢 |
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這是強行用多數暴力憲法精神不是要保護少數尊重少數嗎?所以我每一條我都去登記發言結果惡毒的時候才讓我發言一次我怎麼樣對人民交代我怎麼樣對憲法交代所以對於這種整個立法的過程已經違反憲法第63條的規定當然就是一個違憲的法案 |
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好那當然我們看到這個整個法案通過的內容這個包括立法院職權行使第47條包括第48條等等只要跟人民有相關的我要請教今天列席的跟人民有相關不管是你在這個質詢權或者是調閱文化權或者是行使這個聽證權 |
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會因此受到這個國家的權力的傷害威脅的人民相關的團體我想邀請國防部顧部長請國防部顧部長內政部說明內政部劉部長請說明經濟部郭部長經濟部郭部長請說明稅務財政部莊部長也請你列席跟農業會相關的農業部部長 |
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從5月28日山盧通過之後, 舉國華藍各行各業都可能受到這個違憲亂政法案的影響各位部長,你們所管的業務我們按照第47條第一項第二項的規定政府機關部隊,部隊就是國防部法人包括宗教法人、社團法人之內政部 |
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還有社會上有關係的人包括稅務人員、會計師這些也都是還有農漁會的相關組織還有包括產業界、科技界的聲音首先我想請教一下國防部顧部長 |
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如果按照相關規定,你不管是文件調閱,或者是質詢的時候,或者是聽證權,你如果違反相關的規定,你就必須刻意這個罰款,這個在基層我們的部隊,我們的士官兵,他們的反應如何呢? |
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跟委員報告稍微給我一點時間就是說按照585號的解釋立法院調查權行使它只是一個輔助性的權利為了它憲法上的職權所以585號解釋也說調查權所得調查的對象並不是毫無限制那它現在要擴及到這個國防部以下的各部隊那事實上針對面對立法院要負責的是國防部部本身 |
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主席 |
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他應該要本於他自己的職責所要保守的一個相關的行政特權上面賦予的一個機密或者是相關的國防或軍事的機密他如何做一個判斷當然要叫到國防部來做判斷那他現在直接可以下到我國防部局下的上千個單位的部隊去要求那任何一個小小的部隊 |
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所以所有的基層士官兵、報將官、士官都會受到影響,是不是這樣子? |
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我認為是絕對這樣的部隊如果他可以直接跟部隊要的話這個會影響到整個部隊怎麼去保國衛民怎麼去打仗怎麼去抄野訓練沒有辦法能夠抗拒在的情況之下他沒有辦法做一個合理的判斷的情況之下他會嚴重的侵害到相關可能的機密資訊不只是部隊內政部 |
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根據憲法十四條還有我們認為符合國際人權公約其實團體治理是政府要低度管理而且高度尊重他們的團體治理 |
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所以在內政部現在所轄管的這些人民團體跟合作社大概有兩萬五千零九十二個包括委員所提到的像獅子會、符輪社、宗教團體那事實上我在這兩天這個我們宗教團體有的人就直接講說那也這樣我們為什麼要去立法院 |
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大師傅祖師都可能來這邊接受詢問的是 他們是佛寺團體或者是佛教協會那如果有問題的話變成我們要請他們過來到立法院接受立法委員的調查我想這非常不符合我們憲法還有不符合我們國際人權公約上面對於人民團體健身資格的尊重當然他們是非常不同意有這樣子的說法因為他們認為說在立法院的職權行使法應該本於我們的五權分立的原則來處理 |
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經濟部主管產業跟科技國務長你來自科技界科技業跟產業界對這個迴旋亂盛的惡法反應如何科技界應該是非常的恐懼因為我們有很多生產的機密或者研發的機密叫你提供你一定要提供 |
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農民有沒有可能被調來問? |
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愚民有沒有可能按照你相關的規定,相關人員、社會上有關係的人員?我們比阿伯,正產的,他做醫護人員,這樣我覆議完,我有可能讓你另外一條去蒙嗎? |
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農委會的反應如何 |
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韓國瑜 |