| IVOD_ID |
154104 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154104 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-1-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-19T15:14:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-19T15:25:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3367213ea81ee142bcdb684ccd7f05cbc8204f6a4417db433867d048431dc73534258fe73a3393eb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐富癸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:14:53 - 15:25:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議（事由：審查「立法院職權行使法」修正部分條文、「中華民國刑法」增訂第五章之一章名及第一百四十一條之一條文等覆議案。） |
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謝謝主席,有請我們卓院長麻煩再請卓院長說明徐委員好院長好,院長辛苦了不會,應該的院長,我想民進黨支持國會改革但堅決反對國會濫權,院長同不同意謝謝委員的支持 |
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議長我想經過這次的修法我自己個人覺得這個立法委員不再只是立法委員而是兼具監察委員甚至是檢察官的身份因為現在的立法委員權力無限的大那包含我們現在聽到的包含我們的政府官員部隊企業社團跟個人都充滿在一個藍白恐怖的一個氣氛之下 |
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所以我昨天在屏東辦了一場宣講活動,我們很多鄉親要跟我們行政團隊加油,希望大家加油,我們一起反擴權、互民主。那院長我想,我們怎麼樣針對這一次的這個覆議案的一個關鍵點,能不能請院長再說明一下,我們為什麼堅決要提出覆議。 |
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第一個當然就是他整個討論的過程,非常的不完備,現缺這個民主的程序。再來他對於憲法的認知,是嚴重的抵觸了憲法,尤其在總統到大院來進行國情報告。 |
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﹚徐富癸 |
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所以總總看起來我們就算不是為政府官員也應該為所有的國人提出這樣的覆議案那我們才能保障每一個人不受這種權力的侵害好 院長那我想從早上到現在我們民進黨有很多的委員針對一個藐視國會就有提出一個質疑那我個人認為現在的公務人員是一個危險行業為什麼 |
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國家還是要持續前進的但是公務人員絕對不能後悔回答我說過 |
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虛偽陳述是每個政治工作者的自己的政治人格自殺我跟國人都不會容忍我還是希望所有的內閣團隊面對國會的任何的詢問都是要依據專業依據事實誠懇的回答所以不會偶白回答問題現在的問題是出在於說連我們自己國民黨的召委吳宗憲什麼叫反質詢的定義都講不清楚的時候你就這些官員 |
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徐富癸．徐富癸 |
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這個整個國民黨跟民眾黨是要讓我們所有的行政體系產生一個恐懼感這樣他們才可以逾期逾秋但是院長我要跟你說明的是根據我們現在的民調來看我們整體國人有超過就將近六成是支持覆議的我們一個很強大的一個民意基礎甚至連民眾黨跟國民黨的支持者也有將近一半是支持覆議的那針對這個覆議案院長有信心嗎 |
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所以我相信台灣是一個相當成熟的民主國家不應該有這樣的法案這樣的內容來出現所以當國人認真來審視的時候每個人都會發揮一個民主國家的主人的立場角色跟他的認知所以如果大家能夠充分的了解這個法案的內容讓大家能夠支持覆議案重新審慎的再檢查一次這絕對是未來國家進步的福氣啊 |
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現在外面有很多我們的年輕朋友很多的我們的鄉親坐在場外也在關心我們這三天的一個情勢的變化那我想 |
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聽說白天在撈麥菜又下雨了我們的鄉親這麼多來自全台各地的鄉親淋著雨他們關心台灣的民主被沒收在這邊消失了真的真的讓我們非常的憂心聽到外面的喇叭聲跟外面的打雷聲實在是餘心非常不忍我們何不在這裡好好的討論就可以不用這樣讓大家這麼辛苦 |
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這是我們做得到的只要通過覆議案我們就回到立法院來討論我們做得到的對大院做得到的院長那萬一李佰武的覆議案沒有通過那院長個人後續有什麼樣的處理的一個方式依照憲法的規定他只寫到必須接受這樣的這個法案這樣的法律案我沒有其他的選項但是繼續下去我們還可以尋求其他的憲法上的救濟 |
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從中國流亡作家袁弘明教授從今年2月就有一個事情國台辦針對一個佔領台灣立法院制高點的一個統戰戰略的要點其中一點就是要透過特定人士包含我們的韓國瑜院長、傅坤祺還有國民黨立法院的黨團就是要運用議會改革的名義 |
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我希望國內重要的政治工作的人物 |
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有機可循啊!院長! |
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所以我們要更加強我們內心自我的防衛跟對台灣民主的信念那針對這個部分請教院長我想這個中共的文攻武嚇一直不斷包含這個軍機、潛艇也不斷在我們這個四周在出沒那針對這部分我們國安黨會到底有沒有掌握類似的一個相關情資讓我們的國人能夠安心 |
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這個我們昨天都說明過了,無論是潛艇或是民航機都在我們掌控當中,沒有發生任何的意外跟危險的可能。對,那我們也要持續注意一下啦吼。那,民進黨我想這個我們,民進黨這次的這個 |
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我會沒有過半當然對我們行政團隊是一個很大的挑戰那過去我們在阿扁總統的時期也遭遇過這個嘲笑也帶一個困境那當然依我個人來講我覺得國會擴權是國民黨跟民眾黨的第一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
470.057 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
494.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
後續他們針對所謂一個財化法的一個劃分甚至提出許多的淺坑法案這個才是後面他們的目的那針對這個部分其實我們有許多的我們的縣市首長甚至我們的鄉鎮長這幾天也很憂慮說會不會因為這樣子的一個淺坑法案一個不公平的一個財化法造成我們整個一個地方公共建設推動的一個受阻甚至這個預算的被剝奪 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
496.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
522.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
謝謝委員關心財化法我覺得這個是接的下來兩院之間要好好來研商的如何保存中央政府的財政的彈性跟能力有辦法在任何天災地變或是長期的計畫裡面持續對地方做更多的挹注在這個前提底下讓地方能夠在財政的能力上也能夠有所的改善這是可以談的但這絕對不是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
524.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
524.253 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
徐富癸 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
548.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
567.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
那我相信我們主委院長也會針對像譬如說像屏東縣我們需要的交通建設、產業建設、文化建設種種之類的我們會請各部會來盤點,我們用照起剛照不好來我們把一個我們要的建設一樣一樣把它處理好照程序來進行,是不是應該有這樣的一個邏輯思考? |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
569.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
594.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
國家的體制以及國家的財政已經有相當健全的機制可循我希望都透過這樣的機制讓中央可以對地方多多補助地方能夠多支持中央那我們在橫憑均衡台灣在地希望的這種理念底下把不好的比較需要的把它提升起來那比較好的我們暫時能夠維持出現在的發展能力就好這樣子才能夠把台灣整個提升上來這是我們的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
594.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
623.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
是在這邊我們也是期待我們的內閣的我們的所有的部會首長不要因為這個立委會拍桌子會大聲就拖累到錢這是不合理的啦不可能這要大聲講出來我們的北省都會支持那最後我想不一定要出力啦是我們是我們在地方建設上面我們共同來努力來打拼那我想最後一個針對這個覆議案如果不受支持那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
624.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
624.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
謝謝徐富癸委員的發言 |