IVOD_ID |
154093 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154093 |
日期 |
2024-06-19 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-1-1 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
1 |
會議資料.會次 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-06-19T10:38:43+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-06-19T10:49:36+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:10:53 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3367213ea81ee142cb5bad457d2a1302c8204f6a4417db433eeccacc55ca201b30ded3c40876aedc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
委員發言時間 |
10:38:43 - 10:49:36 |
會議時間 |
2024-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第1次全院委員會會議(事由:審查「立法院職權行使法」修正部分條文、「中華民國刑法」增訂第五章之一章名及第一百四十一條之一條文等覆議案。) |
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我們請登記第七號羅智強委員發言謝謝你的告白 |
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有請院長麻煩再請卓院長備選 |
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副委員好院長我剛剛非常認真在底下把前面所有的委員的這個這個詢答跟你的詢答都聽了一遍我先要感謝首先我要謝謝張祺凱委員你好澄清了今天行政院復議的第一個假消息就是說這個總統到立法院聽取就做國情報告並進行問答是違憲的 |
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他引用了賴清德的說法,賴清德的說法是什麼?按照憲法,總統不只要到立法院做國情報告,而且要接受質詢,他的詞彙叫質詢喔!坦白講我也不認為是質詢啊,就是問答。所以謝謝張祺凱,直接用賴清德的話打領了行政院。我要謝謝侯孟凱, |
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在行政院的覆議裡面跟我講說沒有討論討論有沒有確實有一點主觀感受當然有一個我們在野黨三場公聽會一場專報兩次委員會審查五場朝野協商加上四天的表決審查你可以說沒有討論因為你有主觀感受 |
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但是比較起邱毅英前瞻預算三分鐘輾壓沒有討論沒有表決甚至沒收在場的異議卓院長當桌沒看到什麼叫有沒有討論你說了算我要謝謝黃國昌官員說謊抱歉岂是懷疑所能定罪 |
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公然發假消息嘛!官員說謊要成罪要經過檢察官、要經過法官做事實認定沒有懷疑就能成罪啦!法學助養都不夠提出一個什麼爛的一個復議案我要謝謝傅昆奇今天已經告訴大家了 |
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按照人事同意審查舊法的規定就沒有設期限照你的說法就違憲新法只不過是加了所謂的一個月的審查期他並沒有訂定所謂的無期限你可以造謠說新法叫做無期限那舊法也被你講是違憲啊經過這些的一個詢答的交鋒我跟大家講 院長 |
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你前面講過的我就不再重複了我先做點歸納但是我接下來要問院長您當過行政院長當過立法院長對不對沒有這次的覆議案你說關於執行權聽證權的行使有侵害人權之餘嗎這是你們的一個覆議的理由嗎對不對沒錯吧謝謝你點頭 |
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所以我有些案例來比較一下民進黨在行政部門怎麼來去對人權的態度是什麼這個案子跟我接下來問的立法院聽證調查有關希望你不要又跟我講一句說這不在覆議案的範圍之內來迴避問答希望啦我想請教您根據警政署的統計 |
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明強政府任內從2016年到2024年1月30號根據涉違法第63條第一項第五款也就是散佈謠言足以影響公共安寧者警察機關共移送多少案件你一定不會知道啦我不會為難你告訴你680件680件放心啦我說過後面有關啦 |
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請問院長680件有多少件被法院裁罰多少件不裁罰你一定不知道我直接告訴你只有2乘3150件裁罰7乘7530件不裁罰國內改革法案生效了沒有請問院長 |
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這一波的修法生效了沒有?所以我們才提出復議啊對還沒嘛 對不對所以引起目前沒有任何民眾按照所謂的聽證調查來這邊請求協助調查或出席聽證嘛沒有嘛 |
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民政黨政府就是恐懼的總和 |
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680個案子有500個案子法院不裁罰你明記哪一句話說了算把人民用社委法來移送你就是一個恐懼的政府接下來我要跟你講我想請問齁這個國會改革還沒生效 |
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所以也沒有人被要求協助調查跟隨的來出席聽證目前還沒有案例但是在你偉大的名將執政之下用五百萬民眾遭到行政院跟政府來去濫權的徵訊、偵辦、問話被司法權裁定為不法請問這算不算你偉大的院長你口中的侵犯人權呢? |
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算不算?謝謝你有司法權的救濟!我感謝你!你正開題!我只要到這邊我本來還沒打算問到這一題你先出來了有司法權的救濟啊虧你講的粗口 |
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今天說謊官員按照這次的刑法修訂是誰來審判說謊官員的罪責你一直說說謊官員那到底誰是說謊官員我跟你講誰來判嘛不是你判不是我判嗎法院判嗎一個委員提案就是你說的司法救濟謝謝卓榮潘你打理了卓榮潘你跟我講司法救濟我告訴你現在就是司法審判第二個聽訊調查來沒關係下一題了不用緊張 |
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聽證調查你講司法救濟嘛聽證調查在多重門檻之下到最後如果人民不服一樣是行政法院救濟所以一樣有司法救濟謝謝左翁派你打臉自己但是我要跟你講下一個齁即便是謠言也要受到言論自由的保護所以社委法第63條第一項第五款散佈謠言的處罰要把它刪掉啊院長你認不認同這樣的修法理由 |
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所以你不認同嗎? |
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三個字結束嘛!你認同三部謠言嗎?拜託!我豈敢認同三部謠言!但是不好意思啊!大家停!2013年民進黨蕭美琴現在副總統、潘文威現在的秘書長、林佳榮現在的部長、管碧玲現在的主委、李基麗的監察院秘書長、陳其邁市長、黃偉哲市長提案刪除 |
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所謂的社委法六十三條一項五款它的立法理由就是即使是謠言亦應收到言論自由之保護你直接一刀砍死所有同黨同志院長這樣不好吧?都是他們過去犯蠢嗎?這些你的過去坐在台上隔緣犯蠢嗎? |
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沒有通過啊很好啊來我要告訴你下一個我要問你沒有我告訴你我告訴你有沒有通過有沒有通過至少剛剛從你的嘴巴說出來這些人飯蠢還提案呢我要跟你講我下一個要問你別緊張我下一個問你好 |
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民進黨這樣提案的原因很簡單啦他就是不滿政府查人民水表啦才會這樣提案嘛所以他覺得說政府用涉違法前置人民的言論自由不該才提案修法廢除涉違法六三一項五款嘛那我想請問你齁照這種邏輯齁按涉違法六三一項五款齁來去所謂的來去偵辦人民移送的案件齁你覺得是馬政府多還是蔡政府多請部長說明一下來部長 |
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這部分我沒有統計的一個資料我跟警政署所知警政署說他沒有一百零四年以前的資料但是瘋傳們有介入過一新聞因為我在總務府當過副秘書長我也略有所知按照警政署司法院監察院查核資料我看到的資料2011年到2015年因為前面我也沒有五年資料違反社會法六十三條的移送件數你知道是移送多少件嗎 |
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我直接告訴你32件平均6.4件你要去扯別的東西不在你覆議範圍內那沒關係按照蔡政府蔡政府2014年2016到2023年這8年673件平均84.1件我回歸覆議案的討論沒關係啊我要就是回歸你覆議案啊 |
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今天只要我們蘇貞昌院長對信公豬肉不爽就去信公豬肉就被查水表我們的陳建仁院長說這新北的謝先生買到黑心的綠色雞蛋他覺得是造謠馬上警察八小時傳人半夜徵訊 |
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這樣的一個所謂爛拳在你眼中不是爛拳來我跟你講國會改革聽證調查的四道門檻跟你講四道門檻第一道門檻第一道門檻來來來第一道門檻 |
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第一道門檻有所謂拒絕證言權因為時間不夠第二道門檻依依三位立委決議才能發動聽證調查第三道門檻依依三位立委決議才能夠處罰第四道門檻有司法究竟立法院這麼嚴謹門檻叫做侵犯人權你民進黨查稅表政府叫做什麼無法無天政府啊謝謝 |