| IVOD_ID |
154027 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154027 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-23-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-13T14:36:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-13T14:42:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:36:02 - 14:42:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長李孟諺列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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王委員美惠：（14時35分）主席，我請交通部長。 |
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主席：請李部長。 |
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李部長孟諺：委員好。 |
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王委員美惠：部長你好。部長，本席先跟你探討在總質詢最後談到的，因為時間不太夠，所以對於你的回答，本席覺得不很清楚。為了跟你說得清楚一點，我今天特地撥半天來這裡等你。針對嘉義市的輕軌案，嘉義市政府預計6月底送到交通部。不過嘉義市政府盼望中央能夠統籌進行綜合規劃，把「細部設計」……部長，我用國語跟你講喔！既然你不清楚，我就說得清楚一點。 |
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部長，你知不知道嘉義市的鐵路高架案？本席在去年10月2日用公文向你們討資料，想看看是不是有延宕還是什麼問題，但你們給本席的資料是說沒有延宕，依照預定時間完成。部長，現在才6月，本席要跟你探討嘉義市希望在鐵路高架未來的所作所為。還有，這幾年施作也很擾民，對百姓造成很多不方便。你可知道，嘉義市的鐵路高架延宕多久？部長，你來回答。 |
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李部長孟諺：目前據我了解，這部分正在順利進行…… |
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王委員美惠：順利？順利？部長！ |
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李部長孟諺：但是大概會比原來目標延宕兩年的時間、會延後兩年完成。 |
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王委員美惠：部長，說實在的，我王美惠很關心地方，在質詢的時候跟你探討嘉義市的建設，你現在回答本席要延宕兩年，我覺得很不應該，好在我有認真打拼、認真問你們的資料。當然，部長要管臺灣各縣市交通上的種種不便，不過經過那天跟你探討，我覺得你應該對嘉義市有個概念，尤其嘉義市最大的建設正好就只有鐵路高架這一項而已啦！ |
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李部長孟諺：是。 |
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王委員美惠：部長，你說兩年，那本席跟你講，這確實是你們的回答、你們的資料，原定115年6月可以完工，已經延到118年9月！部長，這樣實在……你看延了多久？延了3年耶！等於一個交通工程、鐵路高架原本已經要做9年，還要延3年，就等於12年！一個剛出世的人，要到將近12歲才能看到鐵路高架有成果出來！你認為嘉義市這項鐵路高架要怎麼讓它趕快完成、趕快處理？有什麼方案？ |
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李部長孟諺：據我了解，是涉及歷史轉車臺的部分，在施工中要作處理。至於細節，我請局長跟您報告一下，因為要看看怎麼克服這個問題。 |
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王委員美惠：來，局長來。 |
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楊局長正君：跟委員報告，我們今年初在嘉義車站附近發掘到一處歷史轉車臺…… |
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王委員美惠：這我知道啦！我現在是在問，為什麼延宕時間的差距那麼大？我去年年底跟你們討資料，你們說都沒延宕，現在跟你們討資料，你們卻說延宕3年！歷史火車站那個問題不是現在才發生的啦！如果住在嘉義市，大家都知道嘉義市火車站是歷史火車站啊！問題是你們要怎麼克服啦！ |
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楊局長正君：這是我們在挖掘過程中發現的地下遺構，並不是嘉義車站…… |
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王委員美惠：我知道你們是在挖的時候才發覺的啊！但是挖的時候才發覺就會因此延宕3年嗎？ |
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楊局長正君：以過去我們在臺南處理的經驗，都會延宕兩到三年啦！ |
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李部長孟諺：就是要請文史團體…… |
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王委員美惠：局長，我講給你聽，面對那些團體什麼的，要考慮、要加強、要趕緊啦！因為延宕以後，整個都改變了，尤其嘉雄陸橋、博愛路橋等3座陸橋工程因為這項工程延宕，也要延宕拆除。既然你剛剛提到臺南的問題，未來面對嘉義市的問題，就不能故事重演，要做得更好！ |
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楊局長正君：是。 |
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王委員美惠：我會繼續追蹤。 |
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楊局長正君：是。 |
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王委員美惠：局長，我今天講完，包括剛剛跟你提到輕軌的問題，還有現在的延宕問題，最主要的是延宕，我有很多意見，也有很多問題。開完會之後…… |
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楊局長正君：我們再跟委員辦公室…… |
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王委員美惠：若你有時間、我也有時間，大家來探討一下，因為大家都是為了公共建設打拼。 |
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楊局長正君：是，我們再跟委員辦公室報告。 |
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王委員美惠：以上。 |
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主席：感謝，王美惠委員發言完畢。也請交通部與鐵路局針對王美惠委員所提嘉義市鐵路高架化相關議題，提供完整的程序與法令依據，向王美惠委員提供協助，共同完成嘉義市這項重要的交通建設。 |
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現在請涂權吉委員發言，涂權吉委員、涂權吉委員不在。 |
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現在請張宏陸委員，張宏陸委員、張宏陸委員不在。 |
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現在請林月琴委員發言。 |
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主席,我們這裡交通部長請你部長部長你好部長,在這裡本市先幫你探討一個總結選委,時間不夠所以你回答,本市說你不夠清楚 |
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我講得很清楚,今天半天來在這裡等他,在這裡就是說,他要請過選,他要去政府,他一直在外地,他會上來交我們交通部,但是他去政府勿滿 |
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中央可統籌進行綜合規劃．及事部設計部長,我用國語跟你說,跟你沒清楚,我還說清楚來,部長,你知道跟你騎鐵路高架．在本社在正宗10月4日．用公文跟你們討資料． |
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看說有延宅還是有什麼問題嗎?你給本席的資料,說沒有延宅才有時間完成,沒錯嗎?現在落尾而已,落尾的時候,本席因為要跟你談到,跟他一起願望在鐵路高架,未來所走所為 |
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不僅我了解這個部份是從順利進行順利 |
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順利報到 |
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部長 我覺得說實在的 我王美惠很關心地方的在這個時候 自己探討自己企業的建設但是現在 原本是說 延長兩年 我覺得是沒有應該的好到現在 我認真發表 認真問你們的資料當然部長 要關台灣各館企業的交通重重的部分 |
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有沒有看到我一天向你探討的信你應該對交易市應該有一個概念尤其交易市最大的建設就要跟這個體育高架而已沒有錯你說兩天本席來講其實是你們的回答你們的資料18、15年 |
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若未能完工．已延至18、18年．以後． |
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保證,這樣實在,你看煙多久,煙三噸耶,定於一個交通、一個鐵路高架做高檔的時候,還要煙三噸,還定於12噸耶,一個出事的,要到中間12月才看到我們的鐵路高架,會選擇出來 |
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主委了解是有一個歷史的這個轉車台的這個部分在施工中要去做處理那細節我請這個局長跟您報告一下來局長來 |
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跟委員報告,因為我在今年初在嘉義車站附近發掘到一個歷史的轉車台這我知道啦,我現在是跟你說你已經延宕在這裡面是怎麼差距那麼大?正宗的年代,你剛才說都沒有延宕現在你剛才說延宕三宗的時候,那個日數的差距不是現在才發生的啦 |
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大家如果住在嘉義市,大家也知道火車站是在四月火車站嘉義市啊,你們要怎麼去靠譜?這個是我們在挖掘過程中發現的地下的這個遺構,並不是那個嘉義車站。我知道,你後來想到我自己啊,跟你後來我自己,可以延長三年嗎? |
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過去我們在臺南處理的經驗都會延宕到兩到三年團體什麼時候要考慮、要加強、要趕快 |
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沿蕩下去整個都改變了,因為家用下降,抱愛下降,沙灶下降,因為沿蕩下去,還要沿蕩下去走,跟妳剛才說到台南的問題,未來,跟妳家的問題,我們要與人故事同源。 |
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要做得好,我會繼續追蹤。我今天公共的信,他們都決定,剛才你說清國的問題,還有現在延宕的問題,最主要延宕的問題,我認為有很多意見的,還有很多問題的,我認為開會之後,你有時間,我有時間,大家來探討一下,因為大家都為公共建設在怕命,以上。 |
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呃 |