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154005 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154005 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-22-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-13T12:25:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-13T12:31:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf02c7fc60cc7ba0aa0bcabde78c8746c65fab1c545da5d01d141634ad16f55f6249bd8a06f3bcbd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:25:26 - 12:31:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請教育部政務次長葉丙成列席就「少子化趨勢下高教應如何經營、創新及提升競爭力」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【6月12日及13日二天一次會】） |
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邱委員志偉：（12時25分）謝謝主席，我想請葉次長、技職司楊司長。 |
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主席：好，請葉次長、技職司，謝謝。 |
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葉次長丙成：委員好。 |
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邱委員志偉：次長，你有沒有到過南部的大學或技職體系的大學？ |
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葉次長丙成：有，上禮拜才去高科大。 |
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邱委員志偉：高科大是國立的，私立的部分呢，有沒有去過？ |
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葉次長丙成：私立的，上禮拜去開南大學，但它不是科大。 |
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邱委員志偉：OK。我的選區大概有過去的高苑科大，現在轉型，它是一個轉型的pattern、一個模式。什麼模式你知道嗎？ |
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葉次長丙成：企業接手經營。 |
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邱委員志偉：企業接手，這也不是第一所，過去中信也有一個專業銀行，變成金融人才培養，還有哪一所？ |
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葉次長丙成：中信又接了一個科大，遠東科大。 |
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邱委員志偉：或者過去有明志跟台塑，對不對？所以未來如果有一些私立技職學校、大學要退場的時候，可以尋求企業界的合作。第一個，增援沒有問題，第二個就業沒有問題，所以相對它有誘因。需求端跟供應端都沒有問題，他才能有意願。 |
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另外一個模式，你有聽過樹人醫校嗎？ |
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楊司長玉惠：樹人醫專。 |
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邱委員志偉：有喔。那有沒有聽過在湖內有一所設計學院，東方，有聽過嗎？東方現在已經準備要退場。 |
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楊司長玉惠：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：為什麼相隔不到1公里，樹人醫專強強滾，我每年去參加畢業典禮都盛況空前。為什麼旁邊的東方科大面臨要退場？ |
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司長，你比較了解，這兩個學校差異在哪裡？ |
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楊司長玉惠：跟委員報告，樹人醫專是專科，而且它的科系比較屬於醫護、照護方面。 |
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邱委員志偉：它也有語言啊。 |
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楊司長玉惠：對，然後有一些證照的科系，所以它的招生是真的不錯。 |
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邱委員志偉：對。 |
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楊司長玉惠：當然，科系的屬性…… |
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邱委員志偉：學生人數有7,000人。 |
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楊司長玉惠：是！學生人數很大。 |
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邱委員志偉：而且它不是在都會區，交通也不方便。 |
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楊司長玉惠：是、是，就是因為它的科系吸引學生。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以這就是重點！ |
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楊司長玉惠：對！ |
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邱委員志偉：你要有科系吸引學生，未來他們就業有競爭力。 |
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楊司長玉惠：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以技職體系要往這方面去思考。 |
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楊司長玉惠：是，這也是部長上來一直跟我們講，要讓我們的大學去針對週遭鄰近的產業需求的人才。 |
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邱委員志偉：不要所有事情都推給少子化啦！ |
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楊司長玉惠：是、對、是！ |
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邱委員志偉：少子化是每一個人都會面對的海嘯，每個學校都會面對的海嘯，為什麼樹人醫專可以辦得那麼好，一定有它的原因，對不對？東方科大跟其他科大為什麼淪落到退場？也有它的原因，不能完全歸咎到少子化，所以政策規劃很重要。 |
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另外，企業資源的導入也很重要。國內很多半導體產業，半導體的大廠資金雄厚，由他們來接手，對他們而言是非常輕而易舉的事情，而且可以培養他們所需要的人才。 |
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司長，你把口袋清單列出來，目前等待退場的技職大學有幾所？。 |
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楊司長玉惠：跟委員報告，今年7月這四所退場之後，目前暫時是沒有的。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以未來會更嚴重嘛。 |
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楊司長玉惠：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：少子化問題還是一直惡化下去，所以不是沒有救，還是有，就是你辦法要用對。我不曉得您是不是管技職司？ |
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楊司長玉惠：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：次長，你要去了解每一個成功的學校的pattern在哪裡，它的模式是什麼？能不能把這個模式copy到其他的學校。 |
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240秒到了，是嗎？你們這邊時間都特別快。 |
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另外，STEM的領域科學、技術、工程、數學，比起歐盟，我們在這些領域的女性畢業生比例相對於其他國家少很多。女性各方面的條件，不管在數學或者是科學，為什麼我們的比例會比別人還低，比其他國家還低？主要原因是什麼？這個可能因為時間上的關係，請司長或次長再去了解，怎樣把這個比例提升。 |
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葉次長丙成：我們有個計畫就是專門在推動提升女性投入STEM領域，跟委員報告。 |
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邱委員志偉：你要有個目標值。 |
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葉次長丙成：有、有。謝謝。 |
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邱委員志偉：好。 |
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主席：謝謝。邱志偉委員向來非常尊重時間，還是要給你一個讚。下面也有一個非常尊重時間的楊瓊瓔委員。 |
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你要跟他換嗎?4分鐘 謝謝謝謝主席我想請葉市長、記職司、楊市長 |
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市長,您有沒有到過南部的大學或是技術體系的大學?有,上禮拜才去高科大。高科大是國立的嘛。那私立的部分呢,有沒有去過?私立,上禮拜去開南大學,但它不是科大。我的選區,大概有過去的高院科大,現在轉型。 |
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中信又接了一個科大環球遠東科大 |
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另外一個模式,你有聽過素人醫教嗎?素人醫專嗎? |
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有齁那有沒有聽過這個在湖內湖內有一所你知不知道什麼設計學院東方有聽過嗎東方現在已經準備要退場嘛對不對為什麼相隔不到一公里哇 素人衣校素人衣裝搶搶棍我每年穿上那畢業典禮哇 盛況空前那為什麼這個旁邊的 |
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東方科大面臨第二天的退場 |
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市長你比較了解這兩個學校差異在哪裡跟委員報告素人醫專他是專科而且他的科系會比較屬於醫護、照護這方面然後有一些證照的科系所以他的招生是真的不錯這個是當然學生人數有7000人而且他不是在都會區交通也不方便 |
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就是因為他的科系吸引學生所以這就是重點你要有科系吸引學生未來他們的就業有競爭力 |
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所以未來你的自己體系要往這方面去思考是 這個也是部長上來一直在跟我們講說要讓我們的大學去針對你周遭鄰近的產業他需求的人才不要所有事情都推給少子化少子化是每一個人都會面對的海嘯每一個學生都會面對的海嘯為什麼樹林醫專可以辦得那麼好一定有他的原因 對不對 |
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為什麼東方科大跟其他的科大為什麼要輪到退場也有它的原因不能完全歸咎要少子化所以你的政策國外很重要另外企業的導入企業資源的導入也很重要國內很多半導體產業半導體的大廠他們資金雄厚啊由他們來接手對他們而言是非常先而易舉的事情但是可以培養他們所需要的人才 |
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您現在手上口袋清單列出來目前只能等待要退場的計職大學有幾所市長跟委員報告目前就是7月今年這4所退場之後目前暫時是沒有的所以未來會更嚴重少子化問題還是一直惡化下去所以不是沒有救還是有就是你辦法要用對 |
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另外Stan的領域 |
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委員會主席 |
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為什麼我們比例會比別人還低?比其他國家還低?主要原因是什麼?這個可能時間上的關係啊師長或者這個師長再去了解一下怎麼樣把這個比例能夠提升我們有一個計畫就是專門在推動這個提升女性投入實戰領域的你要有一個目標值有有有好謝謝好謝謝 |