| IVOD_ID |
154000 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154000 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-23-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-13T11:57:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-13T12:04:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf02c7fc60cc7ba021fb33c78f9d44045c95aab381092a401d141634ad16f55fec1a1595b71728d95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:57:49 - 12:04:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長李孟諺列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（11時57分）主席、各位委員。還是先請部長。 |
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主席：先請李部長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：還有鐵道局局長。 |
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主席：楊正君局長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：還有公路總局。 |
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主席：陳文瑞局長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好，恭喜你到交通部。 |
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李部長孟諺：委員好，謝謝。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：鐵道局局長，前瞻基礎建設在軌道建設的部分有哪些？前瞻基礎建設現在已經實施好幾年了。 |
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楊局長正君：這裡面包括臺鐵的相關改善跟都會區捷運的相關建設計畫。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：捷運。 |
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楊局長正君：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：哪些捷運？ |
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楊局長正君：捷運在全國各地大概都有。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以是零星的，還是有新建的？ |
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楊局長正君：新建的也有，規劃的也有。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：新建的是哪些？還記得的是哪些？ |
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楊局長正君：因為有些案子是用公務預算，有一些案子是用前瞻預算，所以…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，我講的是前瞻。 |
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楊局長正君：我了解。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我這邊寫的就是前瞻基礎建設條例。 |
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楊局長正君：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，沒有關係，事後再給我好了。 |
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楊局長正君：是，我們會後提供給委員，抱歉。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，請回座。最主要就是說，部長，今天你的報告裡面，我看絕大部分都在西部，在東部的部分都是過去延續下來的，譬如說花東縱谷公路安全景觀大道，這個本席在交通委員會質詢過很多次，一開始都是要用省道的建設，但是我們花蓮、臺東的立委名額少，沒有辦法跟西部的立委去爭取省道的經費，所以後來就要求訂一個花東縱谷公路安全景觀大道的中長程計畫，才開始有另外編列預算，所以這個部分，我剛剛為什麼要提前瞻基礎建設？就一句話提到「軌道建設」，就開始編列經費了。然後我們看快速公路，臺灣的快速道路總共有15條，這個圖有15條，現在還繼續做的，譬如說像相關的支線還是什麼，那些還繼續喔，在你的報告裡面都有。那我們花蓮需要一個花東快速道路，最主要就是說，從臺東要到花蓮，因為我們主要的醫療院所，就醫療來講，主要在花蓮的慈濟醫院，要從臺東市用救護車將患者運到花蓮的慈濟醫院，非常非常遠，包括我們的農特產品要運送，所以有蘇花改，然後現在的蘇花安，我一再地跟公路總局講，蘇花安的環評要趕快，不能一直拖到7月，要提早，可以提早嗎？局長。 |
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陳局長文瑞：現在是要求在7月底，我們會提早。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：要提早。 |
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陳局長文瑞：是。 |
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李部長孟諺：小組已經過了。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道，光這個會期，我已經質詢三、四次了，我也質詢過環境部的部長，當然你們的說明很重要，因為環評委員也換了，所以他不知道他講的那個問題以前南迴公路早就做過了。 |
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我們看這個，關於花東快速道路，既然你們重啟了可行性評估，2020年重啟可行性評估，那為什麼到現在為止，在整個報告裡面，未來114年度到底有沒有經費？因為現在就要籌編114年度的經費啊。到底有沒有？部長。 |
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李部長孟諺：是。委員，我跟您報告，政府這幾年在花東的交通投資，其實有將近3,000億的投入，除了蘇花改以外，現在蘇花安如果環評過核定，我們也儘速地來設計施工。另外，國道五接蘇花改這個部分也在持續。還有鐵路雙軌化…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：國道五接…… |
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李部長孟諺：接蘇花改。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：那個沒有到花蓮的，那個只有在宜蘭啊。 |
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李部長孟諺：那是整個打通，就可以讓國道和蘇花改、蘇花安整個一起打通到新城。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：下一次質詢的時候，我會讓部長知道蘇花改跟蘇花安的差距。 |
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李部長孟諺：整個就會聯通，變成一個快速道路。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道，我知道，整個建設的計畫是差很多啦。所以我的意思是說…… |
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李部長孟諺：花東快就是因為還在可研的階段，所以必須要有一些程序，才會開始到籌編預算。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：說明會都辦完了。 |
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李部長孟諺：今年8月期末報告才會做出來。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對啊。為什麼我們要希望能夠定特別條例？就是要協助交通部，協助交通部去爭取另外的特別預算，是這樣的，是協助交通部，好不好？因為整個大餅有限，怎麼樣能夠把這個大餅增加給這個交通部，用意在這裡，而且能夠協助促成花東的一個非常重要的交通建設。謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員。 |
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先作以下宣告，等一下在牛煦庭委員發言完畢之後，我們會休息。洪孟楷委員也到了，那就到洪孟楷委員發言完畢之後，我們就休息。 |
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現在請黃仁委員發言。 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請交通部部長李孟諺列席報告業務概況，並備質詢 |
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先請部長先請李部長還有鐵道局局長楊振軍局長公路總局陳文銳局長部長好恭喜你到江文部謝謝有了那個 |
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鐵道局我們局長這個前瞻基礎建設這個軌道建設的部分有哪些前瞻基礎建設現在已經實施好幾年了這裡面包括台鐵的相關改善跟都會區捷運的相關建設捷運還有沒有哪些捷運捷運在全國各地大概都有 |
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所以是零薪的還是有新建的?新建的也有規劃的也有新建的是哪些?還記得的是哪些?因為有些案子是用公務預算有些案子是用前瞻預算所以我講的是前瞻我這邊寫的就是前瞻基礎建設條例是好應該事後再給我費用提供給我好請回座 |
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這主要就是說這個部長今天你的報告裡面我看了這個很多都是在絕大部分絕大部分都在西部那在東部的部分是都是過去延續下來的比如說這個花東公路這個 |
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警官大道花東縱谷公路安全警官大道這個一開始本席在交通委員會質詢過很多次一開始都是要用省道的建設但是我們花蓮台東的立委 |
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明兒少,所以就沒辦法去跟西部的立委去爭取這個省道的經費所以後來就要求,這個,訂一個花東縱谷公路安全景觀大道的中長城計劃才開始有另外編列預算 |
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快速公路 |
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臺灣的快速道路總共有15條這個圖15條當然現在還繼續做的比如說相關的支線那些還繼續在你的報告裡面都有那我們花蓮需要一個花東快速道路最主要就是說從 |
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臺東要到花蓮因為我們主要的醫療院所就醫療來講主要在花蓮的慈濟醫院要從花臺東市要運到這個救護車運到這個非常非常的遠包括我們的農特產品 |
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委員會議員委員會議員委員會議員委員會 |
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提早,可以提早嗎?我們會,因為現在是,他是要求是7月底,我們會提早要提早,我知道,這個我已經,光這個會期我已經質詢最起碼3、4次了所以這個我會質詢環境部的部長 |
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花東快速道路,既然你們重啟了可行性評估,但為什麼 |
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到現在為止在這個整個報告裡面在整個報告裡面未來114年度到底有沒有經費因為現在要籌編 |
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現在就要籌編114年度的經費啊到底有沒有是阿部長是委員跟您報告就是政府這幾年在花東的交通的投資其實有將近3000億的這個投入包括所謂的蘇花改以外現在蘇花安如果環評過合訂我們也儘速的來設計施工那另外國道5階蘇花改 |
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這個部分也在持續那還有鐵路這個鐵路雙軌化國道5接蘇花改那個沒有到花蓮啦那個只有在宜蘭啦但是整個打通齁那個是整個就可以讓國道跟蘇花安蘇花改整個一起打通到新城改天我再下次質詢的時候我會讓部長聊因為時間的關係齁要讓你知道蘇花改跟蘇花安的差距 |
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整個建設的計畫就差很多啦所以我的意思是說花東快就是因為還在可延的階段所以他必須要有一些程序才會開始到籌備預算他今年八月今年八月期末報告會出來所以這個部分為什麼我們要希望能夠 |
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為什麼我們希望能夠訂特別條例就是要協助交通部啊 |
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謝謝鄭天財委員 |