| IVOD_ID |
153979 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153979 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-19-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-13T11:45:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-13T11:55:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf02c7fc60cc7ba00b68d34c3fa9a17b79c37d5c632653371d141634ad16f55fb0c18060a6df1b5f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:34 - 11:55:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員陳素月等17人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案。
二、本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案。
三、本院委員楊瓊瓔等24人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案。
(委員楊瓊瓔等人提案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查)【6月12日及13日兩天一次會】） |
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邱委員志偉：（11時45分）感謝主席，請農業部陳部長、防檢署邱署長。 |
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主席：請陳部長、防檢署。 |
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陳部長駿季：委員好。 |
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邱委員志偉：非洲豬瘟在亞洲還不是疫區的有哪些國家？ |
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陳部長駿季：臺灣跟日本。 |
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邱委員志偉：臺灣跟日本。我們在機場或者港口都有防檢局的同仁在對入境旅客的隨身行李進行安檢。 |
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陳部長駿季：是，我們在機場的話，行李的部分是百分之百，特別是高風險區的。 |
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邱委員志偉：包括托運行李嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，託運行李，還有手提行李。 |
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邱委員志偉：托運行李你們看，手提行李也看，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，高風險區就是說他是從疫區過來的，我們會那個。 |
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邱委員志偉：每一個都是疫區啊！除了臺灣跟日本。 |
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陳部長駿季：不見得，因為其他的國家，像日本來的，我們相關的管制規則就不一樣。 |
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邱委員志偉：非日本之外的亞洲國家都會安檢？ |
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陳部長駿季：只要是疫區的話，只要是疫區的話！都屬於高風險。 |
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邱委員志偉：不是，我問你，只有臺灣跟日本是非疫區，其他都是疫區嘛！對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：那是亞洲啊！美洲的部分…… |
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邱委員志偉：美洲的部分大部分也是疫區嘛！ |
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陳部長駿季：美國也不是疫區啊！ |
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邱委員志偉：所以你要看非疫區的國家，我們就不用行李安檢，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：抽檢。 |
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邱委員志偉：你們動線怎麼去區分，你們知道嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：了解，我們實際在…… |
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邱委員志偉：這已經執行一段時間了。 |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：日本有沒有相關的作為？ |
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陳部長駿季：日本也是百分之百檢查。 |
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邱委員志偉：我好幾次出入日本都沒有。 |
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陳部長駿季：那個是因為我們臺灣不是疫區，所以…… |
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邱委員志偉：日本也不是疫區啊！ |
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陳部長駿季：對，所以相對的，我們對日本的旅客，我們檢查的程度…… |
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邱委員志偉：不是啦！我在日本也沒有檢查，它也沒有檢查，對行李、托運行李、手提行李都沒有。 |
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陳部長駿季：在拖運行李的部分…… |
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邱委員志偉：我也不知道啦！我也不知道，手提行李也沒有。 |
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陳部長駿季：手提行李是沒有。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以我們要做的是比日本更嚴格。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，我們…… |
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邱委員志偉：嚴格是好的，防止變成非洲豬瘟的疫區，但是你們執行的時候，看X光是你們的人還是…… |
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陳部長駿季：是海關的，手提行李是我們的人，後面是海關的人。 |
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邱委員志偉：我好幾次都是看到保全公司在看，都是保全公司在看。 |
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陳部長駿季：都是聘的，對，我們是請保全…… |
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邱委員志偉：保全公司他們有專業嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：有經過訓練？ |
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邱委員志偉：所以不是你們的人去執行這些業務？是保全人員。 |
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陳部長駿季：我們的同仁會在旁邊。 |
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邱委員志偉：沒有，旁邊沒人啊！我在那邊看了一下，反正就沒有你們防檢局的人啊！因為有任何爭議，保全公司有什麼樣的訓練，不知道，對不對？他有沒有這個專業能力去執行這個案件？ |
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陳部長駿季：我想協同檢驗觀看的話，保全的職權都會…… |
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邱委員志偉：你們要注意一下。 |
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陳部長駿季：我會注意，特別注意。 |
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邱委員志偉：你屆時要執行，就是要確實執行，你不要呼嚨，也不要虛晃一招。 |
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陳部長駿季：了解。 |
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邱委員志偉：比方他們有沒有專業去判斷這些是不是屬於禁止入境的肉產品？ |
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陳部長駿季：他們都經過X光判讀的訓練。 |
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邱委員志偉：我知道啦！但是還是要有你們專業的人嘛！你隨便一個保全公司，保全公司訓練上課多久？他有這個專業能力去做判斷嗎？對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：30個小時以上。 |
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邱委員志偉：我覺得還是要由你們的同仁去執行，你們要特別注意。 |
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陳部長駿季：好，我會後會再去確認它整個SOP的流程，一定要有人。 |
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邱委員志偉：你就一定要有人，我看了好幾次都是，我特別看了一下，沒有一個你們防檢局的人在那邊。 |
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陳部長駿季：我想整個區一定要有同仁，一定要有防檢局的同仁，不能只有保全。 |
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邱委員志偉：就沒有嘛！ |
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陳部長駿季：我會後一定會檢討、去了解。 |
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邱委員志偉：如果我帶一個泡麵，泡麵是豬肉泡麵，這個有沒有違法？ |
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陳部長駿季：泡麵可以。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以你要加強宣導，很多人不知道，第一線在還沒有進入海關之前，你如果被搜到有肉製品，你當下丟掉沒事，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：沒事，對。 |
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邱委員志偉：到哪邊才有事？海關才有事？ |
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陳部長駿季：到海關的時候。 |
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邱委員志偉：海關會檢查的比例是多少？ |
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陳部長駿季：現在手提的是百分之百，然後託運行李的話是在下面轉盤的時候。 |
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邱委員志偉：海關手提行李是百分之百。 |
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陳部長駿季：手提的是百分之百，然後託運的話是經過下面的那個…… |
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邱委員志偉：海關，你說最後一關要出境的時候。 |
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陳部長駿季：對啊！出境的話，綠線我們會加強執法，綠線的部分，因為綠線通常是免申報的，很多人就是…… |
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邱委員志偉：一般都免申報，他帶了什麼，像泡麵是肉製品，他怎麼會知道。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，所以我們在綠線的部分會加強抽檢。 |
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邱委員志偉：是你們抽檢還是海關？ |
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陳部長駿季：還有檢疫犬。 |
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邱委員志偉：我覺得這相對鬆散，你抽檢的比例很低，比日本低很多，日本基本10個大概有8個、7個，先看護照，然後你的行李看一看，你們都沒有做到這一點。 |
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陳部長駿季：好，謝謝委員的提醒喔！我想會後我會…… |
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邱委員志偉：你既然要從嚴，執法要確實。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，執法一定要落實，我想我會後再去重新做專案檢討，看看哪邊是有漏洞的。 |
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邱委員志偉：我是有看到跟你們說啦！ |
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陳部長駿季：是，謝謝委員的提醒。 |
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邱委員志偉：今天這個植物診療師大概從2006年就開始推動立法，2016年有這個版本出來，然後如果沒有意外的話，這一屆會過，也許快的話是這個會期，因為是跨黨派的版本都有，包括院版也有，所以立法完成之前，你們有很多宣導的工作，要去跟農民、業者溝通，這個立法一定會過，應該不會超過今年就會三讀通過，召委應該也有信心了，召委！通過之前，你要很多的宣導工作，包括你看，來，幾項給你們做參考，到底農友要去買農藥，是不是要跟植物診療師諮詢？ |
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陳部長駿季：沒有，不需要。 |
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邱委員志偉：有人問我是不是以後要去買農藥要去跟植物診療師諮詢，就好像我們去掛號，還要弄個處方簽，有人有這種誤解。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，我知道，所以我想我們會再更積極地，包括利害關係人，包括農藥販賣業者、農民。 |
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邱委員志偉：對，農藥成本會不會因此而增加？ |
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陳部長駿季：不會，反而農民本身的用藥會更精準，他農藥的使用費可能可以下降。 |
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邱委員志偉：另外，還有一個很多人提出的問題，會不會跟園藝技師跟農業技師的業務重疊？ |
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陳部長駿季：這個也不會，這個完全不會有影響。 |
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邱委員志偉：你要讓這些園藝技師跟農業技師知道，植物診療師法通過之後，對你們的業務不會造成影響。 |
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陳部長駿季：這個我們已經持續了一年多，早期可能有一些疑慮，可是這一年多來，我們很積極的去跟各個利害關係人，包括農民、農藥販賣業者、這些農藝師、園藝師，還有一些樹木的技師，我們有做了相關的宣傳，他們現在大概都瞭解了，但是我們還是不會鬆散的，還是會更積極的去推動啦！因為一個好的法，要大家都認同。 |
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邱委員志偉：另外，人才的培育，雖然有臺大、中興、嘉義大學跟屏科大，有植物教學醫院，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：培養這些植物所謂的診療師，目前大概有儲備了幾位？ |
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陳部長駿季：我們現在是用試辦的方式，儲備植物醫師大概有100位，然後我們預估法通過以後，我們的目標就是一年300位，然後10年…… |
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邱委員志偉：你們預估一線的需求大概需要多少？ |
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陳部長駿季：我們totally大概是3,000位，因為…… |
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邱委員志偉：3,000位，你現在才100位，如果立法通過之後，立刻要執行，你一線的診療師又不夠，那要怎麼樣去去用？ |
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陳部長駿季：沒有，這個部分就是，我們其實現在已經在跟各個學校還有它畢業的…… |
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邱委員志偉：這樣來得及嗎？現在馬上立法就通過了，你現在只有100位，你今天才去培育，也沒有那麼快。 |
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陳部長駿季：沒有，已經有很多畢業的人他是已經有資格，只是…… |
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邱委員志偉：他要考照啊！ |
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陳部長駿季：但是還要經過考照，所以我們現在在同步…… |
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邱委員志偉：所以他是實習植物診療師是不是？ |
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陳部長駿季：儲備。 |
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邱委員志偉：儲備還是實習？ |
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陳部長駿季：儲備。 |
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邱委員志偉：沒有考到照就是實習嘛！還是儲備？ |
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陳部長駿季：我們現在是有儲備。 |
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邱委員志偉：儲備能不能執行業務？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，然後後半…… |
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邱委員志偉：儲備能不能執行業務嘛？ |
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陳部長駿季：他還是可以做診斷，只是不能做簽證的業務，就是不能開證明。 |
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邱委員志偉：要簽證，要有牌照的才能，是不是？ |
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陳部長駿季：是，有牌照才能簽證。 |
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邱委員志偉：你的國考證照什麼時候會出來？ |
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陳部長駿季：法的部分通過了以後，已經跟考選部談得差不多了，接下來我想我們…… |
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邱委員志偉：所以立法通過之後，到底實際上的植物診療師執行簽證的業務…… |
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陳部長駿季：我相信3個月之內國家考試就會有一個定版。 |
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邱委員志偉：那一年考幾次？你們現在已經有腹案了嘛！一年考幾次？ |
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陳部長駿季：我想一年會以一次為原則，然後根據你的需求…… |
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邱委員志偉：法通過之後，你沒有人去執行簽證。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，我瞭解，我們會更努力的一個關注。 |
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邱委員志偉：這樣子我們立法通過，你徒有法，但是卻沒有辦法去執行，不會很奇怪嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：因為現在市面上很多相關的畢業生，其實滿期待這個法。 |
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邱委員志偉：他也是不能簽證嘛！ |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：但是你通過之後，你就會開始要執行簽證的業務嘛！ |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：這個怎麼辦？這個空窗期怎麼辦？ |
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陳部長駿季：所以我們現在開始已經在蒐集已經畢業、有資格的人，其實他們也在期待這個法通過以後，3個月之內我們國家考試的相關規範會出來，後續就會招募，開始準備考試。 |
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邱委員志偉：這些問題你們想辦法解決。 |
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陳部長駿季：會，我想我們會努力。 |
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主席：好，謝謝。 |
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接下來請洪孟楷委員詢答。 |
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我們中午不休息，到會議結束，謝謝。 |
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審查：一、本院委員陳素月等17人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案；二、本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬
具「植物診療師法草案」案；三、本院委員楊瓊瓔等24人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案 |
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非洲豬瘟在亞洲還不是疫區有哪些國家?非洲豬瘟在亞洲還不是疫區有哪些國家? |
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我們在機場或者港口都有防檢局的同仁在對入境的旅客的隨身行李進行安檢嗎?包括過拖運行李嗎? |
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對,拖驗行李還有手提行李。對,對不對?高風險區就是說它是從疫區過來的,我們會那個...每一個都是疫區啊?除了台灣、日本之外?不見得,因為其他的國家,像日本來的我們就相當的管制規則不一樣。非日本之外的亞洲國家都...就只要是疫區的話,只要是疫區的話就屬於高風險區。不是,我問你只有台灣跟日本非疫區嘛,其他都是疫區嘛,對不對? |
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那是亞洲嗎?那美洲的部分?美國嘛。美國也不是疫區啊。所以你要看非疫區的國家我們就不用心理安檢對不對? |
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你們如果去動線怎麼去區分你們知道嗎?瞭解我們我們實際實際在這已經執行一段時間了齁對日本有沒有相關的作為日本有沒有相關的作為日本也是百分之百檢查我好幾次出入出入日本都沒有那個就是因為我們台灣不是疫區所以日本也不是疫區阿對所以相對的就是我們對日本的旅客齁我們的檢查的程度不是啦我們那個日本 |
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看了X光是你們的人還是?是海關的。手提行是我們的。後面是海關。好幾次都是這個保全公司在看。都是保全公司在看。保全公司他們有專業嗎?有經過訓練。所以不是你們人去執行這些業務?我們的同仁會在旁邊。旁邊沒人啊。我在那邊看了一下。保全沒有你們保健局的人啊。 |
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對你任何爭議你保証是你你什麼樣的訓練不知道他有沒有這個專業能力去執行這個案件我想協同的檢驗觀看的話那個保証人都之前都會我會注意特別注意要執行就是要確實執行是你不用糊弄或者不要這個虛晃一招了解所以比方說啦齁他們有沒有專業去判斷這個這些是不是屬於禁止入境的這個漏產品 |
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他們都經過X光的訓練,叛徒的訓練。我知道了,但是還是要有你們專業的人嘛。對。你隨便去保險公司,保險公司你訓練上課上了多久?他有這個專業能力去做判斷嗎?大概要30個小時。 |
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我會後再去檢討我會後我會去檢討我去瞭解 |
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️ ️ ️ ️ ️ ️ |
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然後脫銀行李的話是在下面轉賣的時候?關手提行李100% |
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我,我覺得齁,相對鬆散欸。 |
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你抽選的比例很低哩。比日本低很多。日本基本10個大概有8個7個先看護照然後看你心裡看一看。你們都沒有做到這一點。你既然要從嚴但你就要執法要確實。執法一定要落實我想我會後再去重新做專案檢討。看看哪邊是有漏洞的。我是我看到的跟你們說啦。謝謝委員的提醒。 |
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那今天這個租診療師在從2006就開始推動立法2016有這個版本出來然後這個如果沒有意外的話這一屆會過因為是也許快的話這個會期因為是跨黨派的版本都有包括院版也有所以這個立法完成之後 |
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厲法完成之前,你們有很多宣導的工作要去跟農民去跟他們一直去溝通。厲法這個一定會過,不會超過,應該不會超過今年,就會三度通過。這個趙委應該也有信心了,趙委。通過之後,通過之前你要很多宣導工作,包括你看,來,幾項給你們做參考。到底這個農友要去買農藥,是不是要跟植物診療師諮詢? |
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對,我知道。所以我想我們會再更積極的包括利害關心人,包括農藥販賣業者,包括農民。 |
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不會反而農民本身的用藥會更精準他農藥的使用費可能可以下降好那另外還有一個很多人提出的問題就是說會不會跟原液機師跟農液機師啊對他的業務重疊這個也不會這個完全不會有影響你要讓這些原液機師跟農液機師知道說我植物診療師法通過之後對你們的業務不會造成影響這個我想我們已經持續在一年多早期可能有一些餘地啦 |
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那培養這些植物的這個所謂診療師目前大概有儲備了幾位?我們現在目前用事辦的方式用儲備植物醫師大概100位啦。然後我們預估法通過以後我們的目標就是一年300位。那你預估一線的需求大概需要多少? |
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他還是可以做診斷,只是不能做簽證的業務,就是不能開證明。那你這個國考的證照什麼時候會出來? |
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我相信我們跟那個考試已經跟跟考選部已經談得差不多了那接下來我想我們所以你立法通過之後到你那個實際上的植物診療師實行簽證業務我相信上個月之內國家考試就會就會就會有一個定版 |
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