| IVOD_ID |
153936 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153936 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-19-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-13T10:17:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-13T10:26:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf02c7fc60cc7ba07d5f24dab14799f079c37d5c63265337ae5baf1b56d47734210c2463ee6481985ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:17:59 - 10:26:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員陳素月等17人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案。
二、本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案。
三、本院委員楊瓊瓔等24人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案。
(委員楊瓊瓔等人提案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查)【6月12日及13日兩天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（10時18分）主席、各位委員。有請部長。 |
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主席：我們請陳部長。 |
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陳部長駿季：委員早。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。今天審查植物診療師法，在你們的報告裡面也特別提到近年全球氣候變遷，造成植物病蟲害改變相關的這些防治，還有怎麼樣能夠符合消費者安全要求的這個部分，所以基本上如果從你的報告裡面，植物診療師指導田間作物栽培及病蟲害整合性的管理，這個主要的目的，這是其中的部分，行政院107年審查植物醫師法，這是當初草案的名稱，經過幾次的討論，最近的名稱還是要改為植物診療師法，是這樣嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：從名稱的改變是其中之一，但是你們從107年到現在，這麼多年，112年也就是去年，10月又重新送行政院，到底行政院的態度還有考量的是什麼？為什麼一直到現在還沒有完成這個草案，送到立法院？ |
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陳部長駿季：我跟委員說明，行政院還沒有送到院會，有一部分責任我想是我們農業部該負責的，就是沒有更積極地去做一些溝通，因為行政院待送的法案是非常多的，我想我們以後會改進。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：事實上是這樣，當然政務委員不多，但是一個政務委員負責相關的部會，如果以農業部來看，負責的政務委員跟其他的政務委員……所以也不會是政務委員來不及、沒有時間審、要排審很多法案，因為我們看在520之前，行政院雖然是看守內閣，但是還是通過了不少的法案，何況這種跟政治比較沒有特別的牽連。 |
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陳部長駿季：不過我想跟委員說明，當初行政院在520之前，在溝通的時候，我們最重要的是希望法案過了以後，是大家都能夠滿意，所以因為這個法案牽扯到非常多的利害關係人，包括農民、包括農藥販賣業者、包括其他的技師，所以我們是希望有更好的溝通，大家取得共識以後，在法案的推動未來會更順暢，所以有一部分的原因，在之前是希望我們能夠更明確的溝通，讓外界都能夠認同這樣的法案，對於法案以後的執行會更有效率。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，還是要積極的溝通。 |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們看今天的草案，最主要是怎麼樣去解決農民的問題。 |
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陳部長駿季：對，這是最終的目標。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，最重要的。所以像農作物怎麼樣去搶救，有診療師的話是不是就可以有這樣的成果？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，因為診療師能夠判斷什麼時候用藥是最有效的防治，那個時間點非常重要，特別是在區域防治的時候，更能夠凸顯它的效果。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：當然我不知道你們未來的草案如何，你認為植物診療師有沒有需要這些相關的學歷，或者是說他所念的科系，一般很多都是有這個科系…… |
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陳部長駿季：植物診療師基本上就是針對植物病蟲害的專業知識，但是針對病害有一部分可能是生理病害，所以他對於整個土壤跟栽培，還有相關這些基本的農業背景，他是需要有這樣的背景才能去參加這樣的考試。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以這個部分是一個考量啦！ |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，我們就以我國外銷至大陸的大宗農產品，有文旦、鳳梨釋迦、柑橘類等等，像這樣的一個……因為這幾年被禁止銷往大陸，然後相關的因素，我們就以他們實際所報導出來的因素來說，植物診療師有沒有幫助？ |
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陳部長駿季：我想在田間管理絕對是有一定的幫助，因為以鳳梨釋迦來講，鳳梨釋迦本身這些粉蝨類的部分，在採收之前適當的防治，針對鳳梨的部分，鳳梨本身現在有一些蛾類，蛾類一定要在開花之前就要做噴藥的動作，這樣的話，透過植物診療師協助的時候，他能夠更精準的用藥，因為像鳳梨一旦開花以後，葉蛾類就非常非常難去……就算你噴再多的農藥也不好防治，所以精準用藥是植物診療師的專業，能夠協助農民。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：譬如說像文旦，文旦我們是大宗，所以也會有幫助嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，都會有幫助。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以這個部分要趕快定，定出來的話，如果經過我國考試取得植物診療師的證照，經過證照合格所檢驗出來的，OK了沒有問題的，最起碼對岸也就不能隨便找理由，所以這個部分要趕快定出來。 |
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陳部長駿季：會，我們會加強努力。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：這個部分只要是對農民有幫助的，更應該要去加強處理。 |
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當然，這個還是要提一下，地震之後，你們要推出花蓮農產品的優惠券，現在進度怎麼樣？ |
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陳部長駿季：現在我們已經做了這些相關的規劃，大概都已經差不多了，所以應該是7月1號開始啟動。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：這個部分要隨時做因應，我所謂的隨時要因應，有時候要考慮到花蓮的交通。 |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：有時候必要的期限怎麼樣去拉長，你們會有期限嘛！對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：非常謝謝委員的關心，雖然我們從7月開始到11月底，但是我們也會看它的淡旺季，特別在淡季的時候，希望透過這樣的一個措施能夠吸引更多的人，所以實際上的操作，我們一定會視實際的情況，包括它的交通狀況去做調整。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：隨機應變。 |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝。 |
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接下來我們請張啓楷委員詢答。 |
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陳亭妃 |
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呂玉玲 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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審查：一、本院委員陳素月等17人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案；二、本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬
具「植物診療師法草案」案；三、本院委員楊瓊瓔等24人擬具「植物診療師法草案」案 |
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鄭天才委員請作詢答。主席、閨委員有請部長。好,我們請陳部長。 |
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委員長 部長好今天審查植物診療師法在你們的報告裡面也特別提到今年全球氣候變遷造成植物病蟲害這個改變然後相關的這些防治還有對消費者怎麼樣能夠有安全 |
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議員楊瓊瓔等人提案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查゚∀゚ |
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這個107年審查植物醫師法當初的這個草案的名稱然後經過幾次的討論然後這個最近的最近的名稱還是要改為植物診療師法是這樣嗎是這個從名稱的改變 |
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是其中之一啦哈但是你們從這個107年到現在哈這麼多年然後112年也就是7年10月又重新送行政院 |
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呃,行政院到底的態度還有考量的是什麼?為什麼一直到現在還沒有完成這個草案,送到立法院?我跟委員說明齁,就是行政院還沒有送到院會齁,那有一部分責任是我想我們農業部該負責的就是沒有更積極的去做一些溝通齁,因為行政院代送的法案是非常多的齁,那我想我們以後會改進。呃,事實上是這樣齁。 |
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議員楊瓊瓔等人提案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查 |
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因為我們看這個在520之前行政院雖然是看守內閣但是還是通過了不少的法案何況這種 |
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我們最重要是希望法案過了以後是大家都能夠滿意所以因為這個法案牽涉到非常多的利害關係包括農民包括農藥販賣業者包括其他的技師所以我們是希望說有更好的溝通大家取得共識以後這法案的推動未來會更順暢 |
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bicy,有一部分的原因,在之前原因是希望說我們能夠更明確的溝通讓外界都能夠認同這樣的法案,對於法案以後的執行會更有效率。好,就還是要積極的溝通啦。好,我們看這個今天的草案,這個 |
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最主要是怎麼樣去解決農民的問題。農作物怎麼樣去搶救這個診療師有的話是不是就可以有這樣的一個成果? |
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對,因為診療師能夠判斷什麼時候去用藥是最有效的防治,那個時間點非常重要,特別是在區域防治的時候,更能夠凸顯它的一個效果。當然我不知道你們未來的草案如何啦,這個你認為這個診療師,植物診療師啊, |
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對,我想植物診療師他基本上是針對植物的病蟲害的一個專業的知識但是針對病害有一部分可能是生理病害所以他對於整個的土壤跟整個的栽培還有相關的這些基本的農業的背景他是需要有這樣的背景才能去做這樣的考試好,所以這個部分是一個考量了是那就好,我們就以這個 |
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unintendant to the export of agricultural products to Mainland China, such as有文旦、鳳梨釋迦、柑橘類等等,像這樣的一個因為這幾年被禁止銷往大陸然後相關的因素我們就以實際他們所報導出來的因素來說有了這個植物診療師 |
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好,所以譬如說像文旦,文旦我們是大宗啊。對。所以也會有幫助嗎?對,都會有幫助。好,所以這個部分呢,所以趕快訂。這個訂出來的話,如果經過我們的這個我國的這個經過考試,及取得植物診療師的證照的, |
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unintendant to the application of the application of the application of the application of the application of the application of the application of |
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繼政之後啊,花蓮的農產品的你們要提出、推出這個優惠券。現在這個進度怎麼樣?現在目前我們已經做了相關的這些規劃齁,那規劃大概都已經差不多了齁。所以我們應該是7月1號開始啟動。 |
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我想非常謝謝委員的關心,雖然說我們從7月開始到11月底,但是我們也會看它的淡忘記,特別在淡記的時候希望說透過這樣的一個措施能夠吸引更多的人。所以實際上的一個操作,我們一定會試實際的情況,包括它的交通狀況去做一個調整。隨機應變。是。好,謝謝。好,謝謝。 |