| IVOD_ID |
153606 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153606 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-05 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-05T11:20:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-05T11:27:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/18e54f584c581c9815328befa47731009b1a58893ad1259d11da973c502cee62791c8fffe3f7ed395ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:33 - 11:27:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-05T10:10:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第1次公聽會（事由：召開「財政收支劃分法修正草案」公聽會） |
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謝謝主席今天這是歷史上財劃法接近 最接近可能可以比較完美來修改的一刻是歷史上最有可能把財劃法做一個比較公平 完美修正的一刻為什麼呢一方面 立法院有三黨不共伴第二 其實還比較重要 |
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國民黨與民眾黨提版本 |
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民進黨的專家：立法院的專家：彭百選：許天才都非常注意這個很多民進黨有理想的：立法院也提過更重要的：林全剛上任行政院長的時候 貝尼井他是有版本的第二個更重要賴清德：賴總統 這很敬意 一定會信他是有允諾他提修正版的 |
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我知道這次的能夠修正有兩個歷史上很大的契機剛好在這時候都發生了一個是三黨不過半以前國民黨執政民進黨要求要改民進黨執政國民黨要求要改都過不了嘛現在三黨不過半所以他的契機就來了第二其實更重要我認為有林全那個版本有賴清德總統當行政院長時候的允諾他對人民是有允諾的所以我鄭重呼籲莊部長其實你今天報告看起來你好像看起來不修法 |
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我鄭重的呼籲,你回去把林全的版本拿出來看一下林全部長剛接行政院長的時候,他找我到他的辦公室聊了很久我覺得他那個版本,事實上是可以解決問題的一方面他把餅做到的同時,他把一部分的錢真的有下放到地方去了 |
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分配方式也是比較公平的可以滿足各個縣市的所以我鄭重呼籲莊部長回去要做兩件事情第一個把林全的版本拿出來看一下我非常期待民進黨最後有一個行政院版你如果不提的話或者你要抄要參考用林全的版本你民進黨自己在行政院找嘛第二個你應該跟 |
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賴總統要提醒他跟人民是有承諾的好不好所以我認為現在是很有可能可以跨出這個完美修正的一步恭喜齋他是個政治問題沒錯啊誰擔保民進黨以後會永久執政把法修好對任何一個黨對民進黨對國民黨對台灣民眾黨對所有的縣市都是好的剛剛我聽了蠻感動很多學者中間都說啊少一點政治 |
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張啓楷 張教授 |
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黃耀輝黃教授我古尼我們一起開了財劃法要怎麼修的記者會今天有這麼多有名的財經界的這個大師都是記簿啊陳國良陳教授李顯鋒李教授李育成李教授陳文清陳教授林長清林教授蔡群立蔡教授柯格宗柯教授這卡子非常強一個我是覺得每個學者跟每個立法院都站在這邊講話都要對歷史佈著 |
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我們把政治少一點點竟然考試這麼強我們就把專家學者今天講的還有一個很重要重點每個縣市都派了代表來了今天不只列到公報上面我們嚴格的要求我們很期待的是今天各個縣市要求的一些改革我覺得我整個聽下來很合理啊 |
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你只要去看年前那個版本我覺得今天各個縣市提的專家學者講的非常多是吻合的所以最後做一個簡單的結論第一個很謝謝主席今天邀了這麼多的縣市跟專家學者來等一下可能我們每個黨講話可能立場不見得是一樣可是有幾個原則一定要做到第一個各個縣市在這次修法之後不只一毛錢不能少每個縣市喔都應該是要增加的這樣說白嗎 |
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有沒有公屏 這個有方法可以做嗎 我覺得加一期提的方法非常好 加一次提的是什麼他說你先提撥一定的比例 這個在國民黨的版本我們有看到啊 國民黨說你要撥下去之前 你先把11%先拿出來我們有22個官區嘛 對不對 那每個縣市在做的事情幾乎都 很多事情都是一樣一定要達成的嘛 那你先拿11%出來 |
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中央要好好回去想一想不是只有覺得說現在好像是各個縣市或者是國民黨的民眾去搶中央錢不是這樣子的中央的錢你看最近這幾年每年都超收啊 |
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對不對他有足夠的財源而且他是有機會把餅做大的我覺得莊部長跟民進黨的中央應該要對歷史負責不要從短暫的民進黨執政這個事情去看我覺得是有機會可以改的那另外利用這個機會我最後要做一個做一個呼籲今天難得22個縣市的代表都來22個縣市的代表都來那今天可能有些人在講說22個縣市好像 |
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張啓楷議員 |
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所以第一個從垂直的分配上面請中央去參考零錢的版本該把餅做大的你現有的財源下放到地方來第二個在直轄市到各個其他縣市比較貧困的縣市做一個比較水平的某些直轄市的錢確實應該撥到地方去好不好我們共同來努力我再強調一下 |
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這是歷史上最好最接近可以改革的一刻而且這是對所有的政黨對中央跟地方都是好的我們共同努力謝謝大家 |