| IVOD_ID |
15335 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15335 |
| 日期 |
2023-12-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-10-8-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第10屆第8會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
10 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
8 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第10屆第8會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2023-12-06T08:30:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2023-12-06T13:30:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:59:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/bfaf9b39ac01a685718b3f23d56109beea5b031af9c32cfd46d53a332764a535d540b3a1565ae2515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2023-12-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第10屆第8會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查行政院函請審議「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
二、繼續審查委員劉建國等18人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
三、繼續審查委員吳玉琴等16人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
四、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
五、繼續審查委員蘇巧慧等23人擬具「國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
六、繼續審查委員林為洲等17人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
七、繼續審查委員楊瓊瓔等17人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
八、繼續審查委員張育美等17人擬具「國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
九、繼續審查委員邱泰源等19人擬具「國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
十、繼續審查委員陳靜敏等18人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
十一、繼續審查委員林淑芬等19人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
十二、審查委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
十三、審查委員莊競程等21人擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
十四、審查時代力量黨團擬具「營養及健康飲食促進法草案」案。
十五、審查請願文書69案。
【第十四案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】【本次會議逐條討論】） |
| 委員名稱 |
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08:30:44 - 13:30:00 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健� |
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擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 、二、繼續審查委員吳玉琴等18人擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 、三、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨黨委員吳玉琴等18人擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 、二、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨委員吳玉琴等18人擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 、三、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨委員吳玉琴等18人擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 、四、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨委員吳 |
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委員吳玉琴等16人擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案。」案。 |
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我們出席委員一族法定人數先開會。請議事院宣讀上次會議議事錄。宣讀立法院第10屆第8會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議議事錄。時間112年11月23日星期四九十二分至十二時五十一分。地點群憲樓801會議室。出席委員吳玉琴等13人。 |
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列席委員陳敬明等4人列席官員衛生福利部部長薛瑞元等相關人員主席吳召集委員辛盈報告事項宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定邀請衛生福利部部長列席報告業務概況並備質詢本次會議由衛生福利部部長報告後委員吳玉琴等10人提出質詢 |
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均經衛生福利部部長及各相關主管等及其答覆委員楊耀、賴慧媛、吳欣盈及王婉玉所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報決定一、報告及詢答完畢二、委員質詢未及答覆或請補充資料者請相關機關於二周內以書面答覆委員令要求期限者從其鎖定討論事項繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具數位醫療發展條例草案案 |
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本次會議由委員吳欣盈等3人提出部分條文修正動議。委員邱太元等5人提出第8條條文修正動議。決議台灣民眾黨黨團擬具數位醫療發展條例草案案審查完均。內容如審查結果、擬具審查報告提報院會討論。院會討論時由吳昭吉委員欣盈補充說明需交黨團協商。審查結果 |
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一、照案通過第一章章名、第二條條文、第五章章名、二、保留法案名稱第二章至第四章章名、第一條及第三條至第二十二條條文、三、保留之修正動議二案。宣讀完畢。我等一下再確定意識度齁。好本次會議議程為 |
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一、繼續審查委員台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具《營養及健康飲食促進法草案》七案以及委員分別擬具《國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案》暨三案。二、審查行政院函請審議委員時代力量黨團分別擬具《營養及健康飲食促進法草案》共暨四案。 |
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審查前任文書69案、包括衛生福利部36案、勞動部22案、環境部11案。現在介紹在場委員及列席官員。衛生福利部周志浩次長、國民健康署吳昭金署長、 |
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議事司劉玉京副司長社會救濟室及社公司房屬會專委法規會席子會專委食品藥物管理署蕭惠文檢任記證社會及家庭署蕭信榮組長檢信榮組長請問我要喝多一點咖啡 |
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行政院主計總署公務預算處張家瑜專委行政院人事行政總署主編人力處張雅惠專委培訓考用處陳怡君專委農業部輔導師陳怡任副市長農糧史祖英瑞宇專員原住民組委員會社會福利處羅賀祿處長 |
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勞動部職業安全衛生署業配檢記教育部中國規劃司張金署副司長中生教育司許家倩專委國民及血錢教育署詹雅惠副組長國防部軍醫及衛情保健處陸 |
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吳玉處長後勤參謀次長是後勤管理處張志輝副處長內政部合作及人民團體司陳敬廷專委法務部汪南軍參事矯正署吳淳宜 Benson |
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國家通信傳播委員會電台與內容事務處黃財政檢認視察。謝謝。好,先做一下說明 |
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一、有關委員劉建國等18人委員吳玉琴等16人台灣民眾黨黨團委員林維作等17人委員楊昌英等17人委員陳靜敏等18人委員林時溫等16人分別擬具營養及健康飲食促進法草案7案委員蘇曉慧等23人委員張玉美 |
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等17人委員邱泰恩等19人分別擬具國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案暨三案不列於第7會期第13次會議說明及審查完畢二、現在委員會交互行政院函請審議委員陳培宇等16人委員鍾景成21人 |
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等21人時代力量黨團分別擬具營養及健康飲食促進法草案暨施案。檢理本次會議與上述實案並按審查。三、為求討論條文內容聚焦增進本法審議效率,委席具體建議為科火同意延往例與行政院之提案版本為條文基礎,對到其他提案版本主條進行審查。有沒有意見?沒有意見,通過。 |
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本次在交通知識提案僅進行提案說明,不定做詢答。現在請新增提案委員黨團代表說明提案要職每位委員兩分鐘。一、請陳佩瑜委員說明。陳佩瑜說明不在。二、請莊敬成委員說明。莊敬成他有簽名,他不在齁。好,不在。欸?你已經,你還沒有說明過? |
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好,那就請陳靜敏委員說明,來。好,謝謝主席,我坐很久就是要提案說明。好,謝謝主席,讓我有機會來說明。那主要是這個營養及健康飲食促進法案草案,其實在第九會期的時候就已經提出,那我自己也在第九會期的時候有我的版本, |
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bicy 因為法案藉其不續審的關係所以過去的一些的提案內容我希望在今年的提案裡面能夠再跟我們行政院這邊做充分的溝通說明那主要我的版本跟院版其實這個意旨是差不多的那我自己比較大的差異應該是在第12條 |
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就是有關建立高營養風險族群偏鄉族群及極慢性營養相關病患的營養調查及設定營養及飲食建議。攝取基準的這一塊我自己覺得還蠻重要的。 |
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主要是因為世界衛生組織已經指出所謂的非傳染性疾病造成每年超過4100萬人的死亡那這個問題特別對國人來說影響也非常的大因為以我們的十大死因調查因為慢性病死亡的原因也超過一半以上那現在實務上面對於相關的這個內涵上面我特別在這個修法的草案版本裡面提出 |
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我們中央主管機關應該要依據我們的國人及慢性營養相關疾病的現況以實證為基礎定定臨床營養及疾病飲食的指引主要是因為我覺得這個影響甚大那當然這個行政院有提到現在有提到的這個營養推動中心各社區的營養推動中心那它的成效如何都還是值得再做檢討跟說明那這個部分等一下我在主條討論的時候也在 |
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也還會再跟我們行政院這邊做溝通說明以上我是希望能夠讓行政院能夠有考量然後在意見交換的時候共同把關建立正確的健康飲食觀念維護國民的健康以上謝謝陳建民委員的說明好謝謝我們接下來請 |
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衛福部次長周志浩次長說明時間10分鐘以內請 |
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主席、各位委員、女士、先生今天大院第10屆第8會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會召開第13次全體委員會審查營養及健康飲食促進法草案等14案本部應呈 |
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要列席報告,進行各位委員不定指教。為了建構健康的飲食環境,提升人民的營養以及健康飲食的職能,促進人民的健康,藉由制定專法來改善相關的這些問題。 |
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實在是非常的有必要的那整個的草案總共分為6張25條那主要是分為4個大面向第一個大面向是完備行政的一個資源系統那裡面包含各機關的這裡面的職責及分權還有在裡面的國民營養的這些的教育等等事項第二個是確保健康的飲食那這裡面當然重要是重點是在於我們要會進行來營養調查以及擬定人民營養及飲食 |
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飲食建議的攝取的基準,同時相關的補助的計畫裡頭也能夠考量營養的這些低質。第三個大面向是營造健康飲食支持的環境,主要是對於這些相關的機構進行輔導、獎勵以及在職的相關的教育。第四個面向是推動營養以及健康飲食的 |
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教育這部分當然是我們對於相關的法人或是相關的機構進行輔導特別是對於禁止傳播不實營養及健康飲食的消息的部分列出相關的法則至於說黨團及委員版本大致上都跟行政院所函請審議的這個版本精神及意旨相近 |
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各別黨團及委員的版本提案查譯及回應的部分的說明我們是建議來參閱和參考這裡面的我們所提供的書面資料本案如果能夠順利通過的話對於我們推動營養及健康飲食的相關的經費法源有個依據同時也有助於建立支持的環境保障健康飲食的選擇的一個機會確保資訊能夠透明化而且正確同時也能夠有系統的推動營養教育 |
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建立健康的飲食文化那同時來配合相關的法令比如說食農教育法、學校衛生法、食品安全衛生管理法等等的共同來進行跨部會的合作多面向的來增進人民的健康那我們期待委員給予支持我們當然是期待說說這個會期我們就能夠完成這個法律的立法謝謝大家敬請指教我們非常謝謝卓次長這麼精闢重點的一個 |
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報告讓我們更清楚我們這個法的意義跟它的重要性我想這個法是所要營養跟健康飲食這是每一個人從還沒有出生這應該要注意到最後即使末期的時候也要怎麼樣適當的營養什麼都是維繫我們生命品質那很重要的一件事情所以這是全民的事情大家一起來參與 |
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來推動。特別感謝我們州市長的說明。有關於本次會議各項諮問之下,我們已經列入紀錄刊登公報。 |
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議事有沒有意見?沒有,我們就確定。現在請先讀提案條文內容及請願文書案由,若有修正動議請一邊先讀。這個大概要40分鐘,請開始先讀。 |
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行政院函請審議委員劉建國等18人委員吳玉琴等16人台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具營養及健康飲食促進法草案案。委員蘇巧慧等23人擬具國民營養及健康飲食促進草案法。 |
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促進法草案案。委員林維周等17人委員楊瓊英等17人分別擬具營養及健康飲食促進法草案案。委員張玉梅等17人委員邱太元等19人分別擬具國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案案。委員陳敬明等18人委員林淑芬等19人委員陳培宇等16人委員莊敬成等21人時代力量黨團分別擬具營養及健康飲食促進法草案案。 |
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行政院提案明稱營養及健康飲食促進法委員劉建國等18人提案委員吳玉琴等16人提案民眾黨黨團提案委員林惟洲等17人提案委員楊瓊英等17人提案委員陳敬敏等18人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案委員陳培宇等16人提案委員莊俊成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案明稱營養及健康飲食促進法委員蘇巧慧等23人提案委員邱太元等19人提案委員張玉美等17人提案 |
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名稱國民營養及健康飲食促進法行政院提案第一章總則委員及黨團提案第13案第一章均為總則行政院提案第一條為建構健康飲食支持環境 |
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現在補充處理一下,我們現在先進行請願文書69案之審查,請問貴委員針對請願文書等69案是否照擬請決議通過?先宣讀才講那個。這樣巧慧要不要再稍等一下嗎? |
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五分鐘五分鐘五分鐘五分鐘五分鐘五分鐘五分鐘 |
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行政院提案第一條為建構健康飲食支持環境提升人民營養及健康飲食智能增進人民健康特制定本法委員劉建國等18人提案與院板同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第一條為建立人民營養觀念培養均衡飲食習慣建構全民健康之飲食支持性環境增進全民健康特制定本法台灣民眾黨黨團提案第一條 |
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為提升國民營養及健康飲食智能培養國民健康飲食習慣建構全民健康之飲食支持性環境增進國民健康促進社會與經濟永續發展特制定本法委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第一條為提升國民營養及健康飲食智能建構國民營養及健康飲食之支持環境促進飲食產業健全發展增進國民健康特制定本法 |
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委員林維周等17人提案第一條為建構國民健康飲食支持環境提升國民營養及健康飲食智能增進國民健康特制定本法委員楊松英等17人提案第一條為建立正確飲食習慣建構健康飲食支持環境提升國民營養及健康飲食智能增進國民健康特制定本法 |
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委員張玉美等17人提案第一條為建立國民正確飲食觀念養成均衡飲食習慣改善國民營養增進國民健康特制定本法委員邱太元等19人提案第一條為提升國民營養及健康飲食智能建構國民營養及健康飲食之支持環境增進國民健康特制定本法委員陳敬明等18人提案第一條為促進人民身心理健康建構健康飲食支持環境 |
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把第一條唸完 |
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普及營養觀念與健康飲食習慣特制定本法委員林淑芬等19人提案第一條為建立國民營養觀念及均衡飲食習慣建構國民健康之飲食支持性環境增進國民健康特制定本法委員陳培宇等16人提案第一條為提升國民營養及健康飲食智能培養國民健康飲食習慣建構國民健康之飲食支持性環境增進國民健康特制定本法第一條委員莊敬成等21人提案於第二句後面增列 |
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鬥號建立均衡飲食習慣其餘與院本同時代力量黨團提案與院本同。 |
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宣讀請願文書69案案由衛生福利部36案一、台灣私立醫療院所協會為醫療法部分關於醫療社團法人修正案修法建議一事建請審慎參酌案二、台灣私立醫療院所協會與五家醫事團體連署 |
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連述提出勞動基準法部分條文之修正建議建請審慎參酌案。三、台灣電子煙產業發展協會籌備處為建請將煙害防治法修正草案有關電子物化器之主管機關由衛生福利部調整為經濟部案。 |
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四、台灣微補衛檢附電子物化器電子液體規範專章美國等政府最新證據進請衛生福利部國民健康署食品藥物管理署及本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會修法參考案。五、台灣煙草檢害協會為有關制定電子煙產品法律建請召開社會福利及衛生環境委員會財政委員會經濟委員會聯席會議案。六、王育陽均未落實管理無煙代用品 |
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建請修正煙害防治法案。七、王育洋軍檢送煙害防治法部分條文修正草案建議案。八、台灣聚煙聯盟為救煙害防治法修正草案提出建言案。八、張正輝軍等為長期照顧服務法無明文規定中央主管機關可指定服務站建請修正長期照顧服務法第三條第六款以解決問題案。 |
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十、中華民國全國工業總會委建請本月社會福利及衛生環境委員會近期食品安全衛生管理法相關修法提案以加強與業界溝通與評估,不宜匆促通過案。十一、謝玲玉均為虐童事件平凡建請加重兒童福利法之刑責案。十二、李兆坤均為保持特殊教育學校身心障礙學生五專前三年學生之權益建請修正兒童及少年福利與權益保障法 |
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第34、37、47及73條條文案。 13、萬必須國際法律事務所為虐童事件頻繁,受害者與日俱增,建請修正兒少相關法案案。 14、台灣研發型生技新藥發展協會為強化我國再生醫療生技發展及國際競爭力,請加速再生醫療製劑管理條例立法案。 |
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15、台灣研發型生技新藥發展協會未建起再生醫療制劑管理條例加速立法案。16、中華民國藥事品質改革協會未建議修正再生醫療法第9條規定案。17、社團法人台灣臨床藥學會等未建議修正再生醫療法第5條、第9條規定及再生醫療制劑條例第6條規定案。 |
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18、社團法人、台灣臨床藥學會等為聲明全力支持衛生福利部針對行政院版再生醫療法草案第九條之建議修正條文案。19、中華民國護理師護士公會全國聯合會為使公共衛生施法更真完善並保障醫護人員權益減送修法建議案。20及21案為屏東縣崁嶺鄉民代表會及屏東縣新園鄉民代表會分別為因疫情狀況考慮建請增修 |
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防疫特別條例將各級民代出國考察旅費可複選為國內研究旅費使用案。二十二、林家祺軍等為維護人性尊嚴及重症死亡之自主權懲請推動主動安樂死之法案案。二十三、 |
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吳庭營軍為推動安樂死相關條款,曾請將《尊嚴善終法》列為本會期優先處理之重大社福和人權法案案。二、四、高耗基軍為保障國民有合法和平多元之臨終選擇。 |
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3515.151 |
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檢成生命臨終法草案並建請三年內完成立法案。二五、高浩基軍再就生命臨終法草案提出建言案。二六、高浩基軍未推動生命臨終法草案案。二七、陳玉滿軍未請警訴通過安樂死法案案。二八、蘇豐川軍未請警訴通過安樂死法案案。二九、趙文景軍未建議修正安寧緩和醫療條例第七條、第十條及第十一條條文案。 |
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三十、郭榮達軍為曾請警訴修正老農津貼有關於民資請領條件適度放寬勞保年資及漁會甲類會員年資中斷之時間案。三一、向智華軍為一次領取勞保年金給付逾50萬元者不能再參加國民年金保險。 |
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不能保障人民老年生活懲請修法案。三、二、社團法人台灣數位女力聯盟張凱強軍為因應性私密引向犯罪防治作業之急需提出性侵害犯罪防治法修正建議案。三、三、王燕含軍等 |
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為建議修正性騷擾防治法及性別平等工作法部分條文案。三、四、李秉宏君為救身心障礙者權益保障法部分條文修正草案提出建言案。三、五、中華民國中醫師檢定及格應考權促進會為建議修正醫師法條文案。三、六、張秀華君為請緊述通過委員王洪維及高嘉瑜等分別擬具醫師法第四條之一條文修正草案案。勞動部二十二案。 |
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一、全國產業總工會為確保移轉民營事業單位資深員工年金權益,建請研議修訂《勞工保險條例》第74條之二新增年金勤領條件,得並繼公保年資之規定案。二、蘇貞廣軍為年金改革違背憲法平等原則,請退回勞工保險金條例修正草案。 |
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並促政府比照軍公教年金緊速改革案。三、蘇貞廣軍未請退回勞工年金保險條例修正案勞工年金改革比照刪減年金給付額修法案。 |
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四至六案為書徵廣軍未請退回勞保條例部分條文修正草案陳情案。七、楊蕙玲軍未建請非失能及未達失能七級標準之及重度和重度之身心障礙勞工保險老年給付,得比照公務人員身心障礙退休年齡可於55歲申請退休案。八、楊蕙玲軍未有關非失能及重度和重度之身心障礙勞工 |
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比較公務人員身心障礙退休年齡可於55歲申請退休事債澄清案。九、李兆坤軍為建請本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會未來再審查勞工保險條例與優生保健法時將條文中貨幣單位由營養修正為新台幣案。 |
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十、中華民國全國工業總會為該會等八大工商團體強烈反對廢除勞工退休金條例資遣費六個月上限之修法請願文書二份案。十一、中華民國全國工業總會為避免台灣經濟產業受到傷害本會等七個工商團體一致反對有關違反工時或勞基法相關規定科以行則或加倍罰還之提案請願文書二份案。 |
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十二、蘇子軒君等為訴求本院為社會福利及衛生環境委員會應對勞動部作出堅韌老師一體適用勞基法決議勞動部應本與勞動主管機關專業立即讓堅韌老師一體適用勞基法案。十三、台灣區私資工會同業工會等為建請政府修訂勞基法一例一修部分條款以一例促進勞資和諧案。 |
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十四、中華民國全國商業總會第10屆第一次禮監事聯席會議記錄決議事項為建請政府緊速修正勞動基準法就一例一休提出修法條文進行採納辦理案。十五、廖駕南軍為建請修正勞動基準法將第83條刪除勞資會議案。十六、黃德輝軍為建請修正工會法案。十七、賴文正軍為建請修法女性勞工產假和流產假延長天數案。 |
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18、中華民國全國工業總會針對性別工作平等法修正草案之修法建議請願文書二份案。19、唐玉琴君等為教師外勞遭廢聘遣返至受害人無法求償,曾請修法增列外勞每月薪水提撥編列車禍賠償基金案。20、全國代理及代課教師產業工會為建議修正就業服務法第五條及第67條條文案。 |
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二、一、張凱祥君為建議修正就業服務法第五條及第67條條文案。二、二、張凱祥君為建議修正勞資爭議處理法第54條規定案。環境部十一案。台灣省環境工程技師工會為簡頌該會辦理美澳日台環評制度論壇會議資料供政府部門修訂環評法制時參考案。二、二、王建平君王建平君為反對行政院院會日前通過之空氣污染防治法草案 |
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建請撤回並回復原條文案。三、劉子瑞軍為抗議空氣污染防治法修正草案修惡違憲侵犯二型乘機車與10年以上燃油車路權特提出退回空污法修正草案等三項訴求案。四、林俊成軍為請重視六輕公害污染有毒致癌物問題現行公害糾紛處理法無法解決公害案件建議制定公害被害人保護法之特別法案。 |
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五、林俊成均為在建請制定公害被害者保護法之特別法案。六、林俊成均為建請制定公害被害者保護法之專責特別法案。七、張大光均為建請修正廢棄物清理法以達到無廢 |
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零氣低碳高百分比回收再利用案。八、張大光軍衛建議修正廢棄物清理法案。九、張大光軍衛就廢棄物清理法第15條及第21條條文提出修正意見案。 |
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十、台灣市廢棄物清除處理商業同業工會為高雄市政府以行政命令限制跨區處理或清運一般事業廢棄物、抵觸廢棄物清理法等建請修法案。十一、張大光軍為建請將行政院所提溫室氣體減量管理法修正案名稱修正為氣候變遷因應法案。宣讀完畢。 |
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請問各位委員對於針對請願文書等69案事額,照擬請決議通過,有沒有意見?沒有意見我們就通過。 |
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做以下捷議院會交付審查台灣施立醫療院所協會請願文書等69案,以分別由各主管機關查入在案。經審查結果不成為議案,依立法院之前行使法第67條第二項規定,虛名理由及處理經過,送由程序委員會報請院會審查,並通知請願人。 |
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好,請問文書六九案已處理完畢,現場非法案相關內容可請先行離席。現在繼續先讀提案內容及修正動議,請先讀。 |
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行政院提案第二條本法用詞定義如下一、營養指人體利用食物中所含之營養成分進行新陳代謝調節生理機能及生長發育過程之一種生理狀態二、營養成分指食物中可作為人體新陳代謝所需熱量促進生長發育及調節生理機能之營養素包括糖類、脂質、蛋白質、維生素礦物質及其他微量元素 |
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三、營養不良指不健康飲食所造成人體中之營養素缺乏、過多或不均衡、致體重過輕或過重肥胖、慢性病或其他健康問題之狀態。四、健康飲食指足以提供個人適當熱量及均衡營養且以新鮮在地多樣化之食材為原則之飲食。五、營養調查指以各種調查方法收集、分析人民飲食變遷 |
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營養狀況及其他相關資料,作為定定人民營養需求基準及相關政策之依據﹐六、營養及飲食建議攝取基準,指依據營養調查或相關研究、國家健康政策、人民飲食習慣、性別、年齡、體重及其他相關因素,以科學實證方法鎖定一般人民飲食及營養素攝取量之基準。 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案、台灣民眾黨黨團提案、委員林維周等17人提案、委員張俊成等21人提案、時代力量黨團提案第二條與院版同。委員吳玉琴等16人提案修正第二款調解為調解其與院版同。委員蘇強慧等23人提案第二條第五款。 |
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五、營養及飲食調查只以各種調查方法收集、分析國民飲食變遷、營養狀況及其他相關資料作為定定國民營養及飲食攝取基準及相關政策之依據。第六款六、營養及飲食建議攝取基準只依據營養及飲食調查或相關研究國家政策、國民飲食習慣、性別、年齡、體重或其他相關因素以科學實證方法 |
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所定一般人民飲食及營養素攝取量子基準其餘與院板同委員楊瓊英等17人提案委員張玉美等17人提案第二條修正第五款第六款人民為國民二制其餘與院板同委員邱太元等19人提案第二條第五款五 |
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營養及飲食調查只以各種調查方法收集分析國民飲食變遷、營養狀況及其他相關資料作為定定國民營養及飲食攝取基準及相關政策之依據。第六款六、營養及飲食建議攝取基準只依據營養及飲食調查或相關研究國家政策、國民飲食習慣、性別、年齡、體重或其他相關因素以科學實證方法鎖定一般人民飲食及營養素攝取量之基準。其餘院板同委員陳敬明等18人提案第二條刪除院板第一款、第二款 |
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致第六款一列為第一款致第五款其餘院版同委員林淑芬等19人提案第二條修正第二款三節為調解二致其餘院版同委員陳培宇等16人提案第二條修正第五款用詞為營養及飲食調查修正第五款第六款人名為國民二致其餘院版同 |
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行政院提案第三條本法所稱主管機關在中央為衛生福利部在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府本法鎖定10項涉及各目的事業主管機關執掌者由各目的事業主管機關辦理委員劉建國等18人提案委員吳玉琴等16人提案民眾黨黨團提案委員林維周等17人提案委員陳敬明等18人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案第三條修正第一項後段文字為在地方為直轄市縣市政府 |
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以下簡稱地方主管機關其餘與院版同委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第三條刪除第二項其餘與院版同委員楊瓊英等17人提案第三條本法所稱主管機關在中央為衛生福利部在地方為直轄市政府縣市政府以下簡稱地方主管機關委員張玉美等17人提案委員邱太元等19人提案委員陳培宇等16人提案委員張敬成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案第三條與院版同行政院提案第四條中央主管 |
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中央主管機關掌理下列營養及健康飲食促進事項一、戰色與方案之規劃訂定及宣導二、直轄市縣市主管機關執行之督導及協調三、講注及評鑑之規劃四、人員訓練之規劃及推動五、國際交流合作六、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項委員劉建國等18人提案第4條 |
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第二款為二、地方主管機關執行之督導及協調其與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第四條中央主管機關應推動下列營養及健康飲食促進工作一、執行國民營養調查與監測二、訂定國民飲食營養基準三、針對特殊需求之族群提供營養教育諮詢及照護服務之規劃四、政策與方案之規劃訂定及宣導五、地方主管機關執行之督導協調及考評 |
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六、講注及評鑑之規劃。七、人員訓練之規劃及推動。八、國際交流合作。九、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項。民眾黨黨團提案第四條,中央主管機關之全責事項如下。一、全國性國民營養工作之政策、法規與方案之規劃訂定、宣導及督導。二、地方主管機關執行國民營養工作之監督、協調及考評。 |
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三、中央主管機關國民營養工作經費之編列與執行四、國民營養工作講座及評鑑之規劃五、國民營養工作專業人員訓練之規劃與推動 |
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六、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項。委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第4條。中央主管機關執行本法所定事項全責劃分如下。一、全國營養及健康飲食政策與方案之規劃訂定與宣導。二、執行國民營養及飲食調查並建置食品營養成分資料庫。三、訂定國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準。 |
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四、地方主管機關執行之督導協調五、講座及評鑒之規劃六、人員訓練之規劃及推動七、國際交流合作八、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項委員林維周等17人提案第四條第二款如下二、地方主管機關執行之督導及協調第六款如下辦理國民營養相關研究 |
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院板第六款已列為第七款,其餘院板同。委員楊瓊英等17人提案第四條,中央主管機關掌理消費營養及健康飲食促進事項。一、訂定國民飲食及營養建議攝取基準。二、政策與方案之規劃訂定宣導及督導。三、地方主管機關執行之督導協調及考評。 |
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四、講述及評鑑之規劃五、人員訓練之規劃及推動六、國際交流合作七、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項委員張玉美等17人提案委員莊敬成等21人提案第4條與院版同委員邱太元等19人提案第4條中央主管機關執行本法所定事項全責劃分如下一、全國營養及健康飲食政策法案與方案之規劃訂定與宣導二、執行國民營養及飲食調查並建置食品營養成分資料庫三、訂定國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準 |
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4360.357 |
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四、地方主管機關執行之督導協調五、講注之規劃六、人員訓練之規劃及推動七、國際交流合作八、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項委員陳敬明等18人提案第4條中央主管機關辦理本法以下事項一、政策與方案之規劃訂定及宣導二、地方主管機關執行之督導及協調 |
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三、講述及評鑑之規劃。四、專業人員訓練之規劃及推動。五、營養及飲食建議攝取基準之訂定健康飲食或營養相關重大事件處理之建議。六、國際交流合作。七、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項。委員林淑芬等19人提案第4條。中央主管機關應執行下列營養及健康飲食促進工作。一、執行國民營養及 |
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4409.236 |
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執行國民飲食及營養調查與監測二、制定國民飲食營養基準三、針對特殊需要之族群提供營養教育諮詢與照護等服務之規劃四、政策與方案之規劃訂定及宣導五、地方主管機關執行之督導協調及考評六、講述其評鑑之規劃人員訓練之規劃及推動六、國際交流合作七、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項委員陳培宇等16人提案時代力量黨團提案第四條 |
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4431.928 |
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中央主管機關掌理下列營養及健康飲食促進事項一、政策方案與法令之規劃訂定及宣導二、規劃辦理國民營養及飲食調查三、建置食品營養成分資料庫四、訂定營養及飲食建議攝取基準五、規劃提供特殊需要族群營養教育諮詢及照護服務六、直轄市縣市主管機關執行之督導及協調七、講座及評鑑之規劃八、人員訓練之規劃及推動九、國際交流合作十、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項 |
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4439.622 |
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4459.827 |
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行政院提案第5條。直轄市縣市主管機關掌理狹內下列營養及健康飲食促進事項。一、實施方案計畫之規劃訂定及執行。二、講注與評鑑計畫之訂定及執行。三、人員訓練之訂定及執行。四、教育宣導轉介服務與資源網絡連結之規劃及提供。五、其他應由直轄市縣市主管機關辦理之事項。 |
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4460.507 |
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4475.516 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案。委員林維周等17人提案。委員楊瓊英等17人提案。第五條修正序文及第五條之直轄市縣市為地方修正第四款之與為及區域院版同。委員吳玉琴等16人提案。委員林淑芬等19人提案。第五條 |
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4493.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
修正序文及第五款之直轄市縣市為地方修正第四款為地方性教育宣導轉介服務及資源網絡連結之規劃及提供其餘願版同民眾黨黨團提案第五條地方主管機關之權責事項如下一依據中央主管機關所訂定全國 |
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4494.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
4517.27 |
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依據中央主管機關所定全國性國民營養工作之政策法規與方案辦理地方國民營養細部策略營養教育營養改善方案之規劃訂定宣導執行及督導二、地方國民營養改善經費之編列及轄區國民營養改善計畫之整合執行及管控三、地方國民營養工作補助與講注之規劃及執行四、地方國民營養工作專業人員訓練之規劃及執行五、中央主管機關指示或委辦之國民營養工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
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4530.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
六、地方各目的事業主管機關經費編列之督導及執行國民營養工作之協調。七、其他應由地方主管機關辦理之事項。委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第5條。地方主管機關執行本法所定事項。權責劃分如下。一、營養及健康飲食實施方案規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
4539.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
4545.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
計劃之規劃訂定及執行。二、講註及評鑑計劃之訂定及執行。三、連元訓練之訂定及執行。四、教育宣導轉介服務及資源網絡連結之規劃與提供。五、其他應由地方主管機關辦理之事項。委員張玉美等17人提案。委員張敬成等21人提案第5條與院版同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
4558.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
4571.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
委員邱太元等19人提案第五條地方主管機關執行本法所定事項全責劃分如下一、營養及健康飲食實施方案計劃之規劃訂定及執行二、講述之訂定及執行三、人員訓練之訂定及執行四、教育宣導轉介服務及資源網絡連結之規劃與提供五、其他應由地方主管機關辦理之事項委員陳敬明等18人提案第五條 |
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4582.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4606.384 |
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地方主管機關之全責範圍如下。一、實施方案計畫之規劃訂定及執行。二、講座與評鑒計畫之訂定及執行。三、專業人員訓練之訂定及執行。四、教育宣導轉介服務及資源網絡連結之規劃及提供。五、其他應由地方主管機關辦理之事項。委員陳培宇等16人提案時代力量黨團提案。五、增訂第二款。二、執行中央主管機關規劃或委辦之營養及健康飲食促進事項。 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
4635.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
院板第二款至第五款依序第一為第三款至第六款其餘院板同委員吳玉琴等16人提案委員林淑芬等19人時代力量黨團提案第六條主管機關及各目的事業主管機關應逐年編列預算辦理有關營養及健康飲食之促進及衛教宣導工作委員莊敬成等21人提案第八條主管機關及目的事業主管機關應寬列預算推行營養及健康飲食促進事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
4637.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
4665.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
行政院提案第6條直轄市縣市主管機關得指定營養相關專業單位或人員與社區協助辦理營養及健康飲食促進之相關工作委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案第6條修正守據之直轄市縣市為地方其餘與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案第7條地方主管機關應指定營養相關專業單位或人員與社區協助辦理營養及健康飲食促進之相關工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
4666.408 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
4669.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
民進黨黨團提案第6條各級主管機關應設營養專責單位或專任人員辦理國民營養及健康飲食促進之工作委員蘇巧惠等23人委員邱太元等19人提案第6條各級主管機關應設營養及健康飲食專責單位或專任人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
4684.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
4691.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
辦理國民營養及健康飲食促進之工作委員楊中英等17人提案第6條地方主管機關得指定營養相關專業單位或人員與社區協助辦理委員張玉美等17人提案第6條直轄市縣市主管機關得指定營養師與社區協助辦理營養及健康飲食促進之相關工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
4702.273 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
4706.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第6條地方主管機關得導入營養或健康專業單位人員與社區協助辦理營養及健康飲食促進相關工作委員陳培淤等16人提案第6條中央及地方主管機關應涉專責單位或專責人員辦理本法所定獎禮事項之下是 |
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4721.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
4738.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
直轄市縣市主管機關得指定營養學或營養醫學專業人員、團體或機構協助於社區辦理營養及健康飲食促進相關工作。主管機關及目的事業主管機關應每年編列預算辦理營養及健康飲食促進教育及宣導工作。 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
4739.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
4765.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
委員莊敬成等21人十大力量黨團提案與院版第六條同行政院提案第七條中央主管機關應邀及民間團體專家學者食品業者及農產業者代表召開營養諮詢會諮詢營養與健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項其中任意性別人數不得少於總數三分之一委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案第七條修正倒數第二具為 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
4765.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4780.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
其中任意性別委員之人數其餘與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第8條修正倒數第二具為其中任意性別委員之人數其餘與院版第7條同民眾黨黨團提案第7條中央主管機關應每年召開營養諮詢會其組成應邀及營養專家學者 |
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4783.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
4797.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
民間團體及食品業者等其中單一性別不得少於三分之一營養諮詢會之組織及運作方式由中央主管機關定之。前項營養諮詢會任務如下一、國民營養及健康飲食計畫之制定與修訂二、國民營養政策建議及諮詢三、評估國民營養政策執行成效四、審議國民營養調查監測及研究計畫五、各種營養與飲食基準之審議六、營養重大案件處理之建議七、其他有關國民營養工作事項 |
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4813.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
4839.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
前向國民營養及健康飲食計畫應於本法施行後二年內公佈實施至少每十年檢討修正一次。制定及修訂過程應由民眾參與機制。此計畫應遵循行政院永續發展目標並設定達成相關指標之策略與行動方案。委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第7條中央主管機關應邀集民間團體專家學者、食品業者、農產品業者及消費者代表。召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
4842.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4856.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
營養諮詢會、諮詢營養及健康飲食促進政策、調查、研究及其他有關事項其中任意性別委員之人數不得少於總數三分之一。前項營養諮詢會每年應至少召開一次。營養諮詢會之設置重點由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
4858.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
4874.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
委員楊崇英等17人提案第7條修正第一句為中央主管機關因美、基因至少邀集民間團體並修正倒數第二句為其中單一性別委員人數其餘願反同。委員張玉美等17人提案第7條守具巨莫增淚營養師刪除頓耗食品業者及農產業者。 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
4879.364 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
4900.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
其餘院本同委員邱太元等19人提案第7條中央主管機關邀集民間團體醫師專家學者食品業者農產品業者及消費者代表召開營養諮詢會諮詢營養及健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項其中任意性別委員之人數不得少於總數三分之一前項營養諮詢會每年應至少召開一次營養諮詢會之設置重點由中央主管機關定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
4907.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
4915.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第七條中央主管機關應邀及民間團體專家學者食品業者及農林漁牧業者代表召開營養政策諮詢會諮詢營養與健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項其中任意性別委員之人數不得少於總數三分之一委員林淑芬等19人提案第八條中央主管機關應邀及民間團體專家學者食品業者及農產品業者代表及消費者代表召開營養諮詢會 |
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4937.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
4955.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
諮詢營養與健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項其中任意性別委員之人數不得少於總數三分之一前項營養諮詢會每年應至少召開一次營養諮詢會之設置重點由中央主管機關定之委員陳培宇等16人提案第7條中央主管機關要求下列人員召開營養諮詢會 |
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4958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4973.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
諮詢營養與健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項一、營養學、公共衛生、醫學、護理及健康照護相關專業之專家、學者、機構、團體二、食品餐飲團善及農水序產業者代表。三、 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
4975.942 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
5000.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
消費者代表兒童及少年代表營養諮詢會委員任意性別人數不得少於總數三分之一。前項第一款人數合計不得少於總數二分之一。營養諮詢會每年應至少召開一次。其委員臨聘任期組織及運作辦法由中央主管機關定資。委員莊敬誠等21人提案第7條。中央主管機關邀集民間業、團體、專家、學者、食品或農產 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
5001.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
5020.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
業者代表及各目的事業主管機關代表召開營養諮詢會諮詢營養與健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項並提出建議其成員任意性別人數不得少於總數三分之一時代力量黨團提案第8條與院版第7條同行政院提案第二章確保健康飲食 |
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5021.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
5026.361 |
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委員劉建國等18人擬具委員吳玉琴等16人擬具民眾黨黨團擬具委員林維周等17人擬具委員楊崇英等17人擬具委員林淑芬等19人擬具委員莊敬成等21人擬具時代力量黨團擬具第二章確保健康飲食委員蘇巧慧等23人委員張玉美等17人擬具第二章國民營養之確保 |
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5042.009 |
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5055.905 |
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委員邱太元等19人提案第二章確保營養與健康飲食委員陳敬明等18人提案第二章營養系統建置與確保健康飲食委員陳培育等16人提案第二章確保飲食營養及健康 |
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5057.543 |
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5070.816 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
行政院提案第8條中央主管機關應定其辦理營養調查研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫委員劉建國等18人提案第8條增訂第二項為前項之調查研究中央得委託機關團體學術機構專家學者辦理其與院版同 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
5074.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
5081.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
委員吳玉琴等16人提案第九條中央主管機關應建立全國營養調查及健康監測系統定期收集國民營養狀況資料並監測營養異常情形中央主管機關應依國民營養調查及健康監測結果向營養諮詢會提交國民營養調查與健康監測報告並應將報告上網公開供民眾查閱第一項調查之對象項目其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
5098.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
5112.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
實施調查之方法委託實施調查之事宜、監測結果之發布程序及其他實施事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。第十條,中央主管機關應建立食品營養成分資料庫且定期發布更新資訊。前項食品營養成分資料庫相關規範由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
5117.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
5121.995 |
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民眾黨黨團提案第8條,中央主管機關應建立國民營養調查及健康監測系統,並期收集國民營養狀況資料,並監測營養異常情形。中央主管機關應每年因應國民營養調查及健康監測結果,向營養諮詢會提交報告,並應將報告上網公開,供民眾查閱。 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
5138.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
5153.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
第一項調查之對象項目其成實施調查之方法委託實施調查之事宜監測結果之發布程序及其他實施事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之應包含第11條規定之國民、宗教信仰、區域局書、 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
5153.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
5174.783 |
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食等文化差異之基礎資訊。第九條,中央主管機關應定期辦理國民營養與飲食健康相關研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫。前項食物營養成分資料庫相關規範由中央主管機關定資。委員蘇曉慧等23人提案。第八條,中央主管機關應定期辦理國民營養及飲食調查、監測並研究國民營養及飲食狀況資料。前項調查、監測及研究,中央主管機關得委託政府機關購專業團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
5183.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
5206.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
學術機構團體中央主管機關每三年因依國民營養及飲食調查結果向營養諮詢會提交國民營養及飲食調查報告並公布之第一項國民營養及飲食調查之實施辦法由中央主管機關定之第九條中央主管機關應建制食品營養成分資料庫定期發布更新資訊前項食品營養成分資料庫相關規範由中央主管機關定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
5210.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
5227.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
委員林維周等17人提案第8條第二項為前項之調查研究之項目對象其成實施之調查方法及其他實施事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之第三項為第一項規定事項由中央主管機關於每年定期提出報告其與院本同 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
5231.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
5244.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
委員楊秋英等17人提案第8條中央主管機關應定期辦理營養調查監測研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫前項調查監測及研究中央主管機關得委任或委託機關構或專業機構團體辦理中央主管機關依前項國民營養調查及監測結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
5250.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
5265.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
因每五年公布國民營養報告委員張玉美等17人提案第8條中央主管機關應建立國民營養調查及監測系統辦理營養調查與研究前向調查以全國人口群或特定人口群為基礎收集國民營養指標資訊並監測營養異常狀況前向調查及監測由中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
5270.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
5287.433 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
前項調查及監測中央主管機關得委任或委託機關構或專業機構團體辦理第10條中央主管機關應會同中央農業主管機關建立國內食品營養成分資料庫中央農業主管機關應會同中央主管機關評估我國糧食生產對國民營養之影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
5289.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
5295.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
委員邱太元等19人提案第8條,中央主管機關應建立國民營養調查及健康監測系統,定期收集國民營養及飲食狀況資料,並監測營養異常情形。中央主管機關每三年應依國民營養及飲食調查結果,向 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
5306.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
5322.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
營養諮詢會提交國民營養及飲食調查報告並公布之第一項調查之對象項目其成實施調查之方法委託實施調查之事宜監測結果之發布程序及其他實施事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。第九條中央主管機關應建制食品營養成分資料庫定期發布更新資訊。前項食品營養成分資料庫相關規範由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
5331.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
5351.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第8條中央主管機關應定期辦理營養調查研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫並適當揭露前項之調查研究中央得委託機關團體學術機構專家學者辦理委員林淑芬等19人提案第9條中央主管機關應建立國民營養及飲食調查及健康監測系統定期蒐集國民營養狀況資料並監測營養異常情形主管機關每兩年應依國民營養及飲食調查與健康監測結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
5361.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
5382.713 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
向營養諮詢會提交國民營養及飲食調查與健康監測報告並應將報告上網公開供民眾查閱第三項與委員吳玉琴等16人提案同。第十條第八條第一項及第三項與委員等16人提案同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
5384.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
5389.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
中央主管機關每年一國民營養及飲食調查結果向營養諮詢會提交國民營養及飲食調查報告並將全文公布之。第九條,中央主管機關應建置食品營養成分資料庫並定期發布更新資訊。食品營養成分資料庫相關辦法由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
5402.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
5418.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
中央主管機關應利用前條收集所得資料及第一項資料庫定期辦理國民營養相關研究委員莊進成等21人提案第9條中央主管機關應定期辦理營養調查研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫並為委託有關機關學校或營養健康相關團體為之 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
5420.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
5439.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
時代力量黨團提案第9條中央主管機關應定期辦理營養調查研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫並得委託有關機關學校或營養健康相關專業團體為之行政院提案第9條中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡懷孕及生產等擬定人民營養及飲食建議攝取基準經諮詢營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
5442.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
5462.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
諮詢會後公告之前項基準至少每5年檢討修正一次中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量人民宗教信仰區域及文化之差異提出飲食建議委員劉建國等18人提案第9條與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第11條中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡懷孕及生產等 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
5463.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
5487.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
擬定每日飲食指南、國民飲食指標、生命其營養建議及國人膳食營養素參考攝取量等人民營養及飲食建議攝取基準經諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之前項建議至少每5年檢討修正一次中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量人民宗教信仰區域及文化之差異提出飲食建議民眾黨黨團提案第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
5490.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
5508.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
中央主管機關應分別依性別、年齡、懷孕及哺乳等擬定國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準經營養諮詢會後公告之前項基準至少每5年檢討修正一次中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量國民宗教信仰、區域及蔬食等文化之差異提出飲食建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
5509.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
5538.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第10條中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡體重及慢性疾病現況懷孕及生產兒少成長災害救助等擬定國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準經營諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之前項基準至少每三年檢討修正一次中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量國民宗教信仰區域文化傳統與飲食習俗之差異提出飲食建議委員林維周等17人提案第9條 |
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5539.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
5560.299 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
第二項每五年修正為每三年其與院版同委員楊瓊英等17人提案第九條人民修正為國民其與院版同委員張玉美等17人提案第九條中央主管機關每年因應國民營養調查及監測結果公布國民營養報告中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡懷孕及生產等擬定國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準經諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
5564.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
5590.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
並至少每五年檢討修正一次。前項基準應就性別及各年齡層發展階段之差異據於考量包括國人膳食營養素參考攝取量、國民飲食指標、每日飲食指南及其他有關國民營養事項。中央主管機關應依第二項之基準考量國民宗教信仰、區域及文化之差異提出飲食建議。委員邱太元等19人提案第10條中央主管機關應分別依性別、年齡、體重 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
5592.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
5612.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
及慢性疾病現況、懷孕及生產、兒少成長等擬定國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準。經諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之前項基準至少每三年檢討修正一次。中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量國民宗教信仰、區域與文化傳統之差異,提出飲食建議。 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
5613.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
5630.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第9條,中央主管機關應分別依性別、年齡、懷孕及生產等擬定營養及飲食建議攝取基準。前項基準,至少每5年檢討修正一次。中央主管機關應依第一項之基準,並考量人民宗教信仰、區域及文化之差異,提出飲食建議。 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
5631.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5642.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
委員林淑芬等19人提案第11條中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡懷孕及生產兒少成長等擬定每日飲食指南國民飲食指標生命其營養建議及國人膳食營養素 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
5646.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
5672.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
參考攝取量等國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準。經諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之前將建議至少每三年檢討修正一次中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量人民宗教信仰區域及文化之差異提出飲食建議委員陳培鈺等16人提案第10條中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡體重及慢性疾病現況懷孕生產哺乳及兒少成長等類型擬定營養及飲食建議攝取基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
5674.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
5689.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
經諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之前項基準至少每三年檢討修正一次中央儲管機關應依第一項之基準並考量國民宗教信仰區域與文化之差異提出飲食建議委員莊敬成等21人提案第10條 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
5691.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
5715.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
第二項為前項基準至少每四年檢討修正一次第三項為中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量人民宗教信仰區域族群及文化飲食差異習慣之差異提出飲食建議其與原版第九條同時代力量黨團提案第十條中央主管機關應分別依性別年齡體重及慢性疾病現況懷孕及生產等擬定人民營養及飲食建議攝取基準經諮詢營養諮詢會後公告之前項基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
5719.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
5741.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
至少每次年檢討修正一次中央主管機關因應地上之基準並考量人民宗教信仰區域及文化之差異提出飲食建議委員吳玉琴等16人委員林淑芬等19人提案第12條中央主管機關應依據國人極慢性營養相關疾病現況並考量國人飲食文化與食物供應體系以食證為基礎訂定臨床營養與疾病飲食指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
5745.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
5756.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
前項臨床營養與疾病飲食指引相關規範由中央主管機關定資委員陳敬明等18人提案第10條中央主管機關應依據國倫及慢性營養相關疾病現況以實證為基礎訂定臨床營養與疾病飲食指引前項指引中央主管機關得委託民間專業機構團體辦理委員陳培育等16人提案第11條中央主管機關應綜合考量國民及慢性營養相關疾病流行病學 |
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國民飲食文化與飲食相關產業狀況依據實證研究訂定臨床營養與疾病飲食指引臨床營養與疾病飲食指引相關辦法由中央主管機關訂資。行政院提案第10條政府機關購予訂定社會救助相關計劃及辦理補助時應將計劃及補助對相次營養問題納入考量 |
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改善營養不良所致之體重過輕過重肥胖慢性疾病或其他健康問題及提升飲食獲取之可敬信。政府機關構應鼓勵辦理食物及複製法人團體或民間機構於募集運用食物及複製物資或辦理其他救助計劃時將受證對向之營養問題納入考量。政府機關構得考量偏遠原住民族地區及離島地區之需要訂定營養改善計劃或飲食供應之補助計劃。 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案委員楊瓊英等17人提案第10條第二項第二具為團體或其他民間機構第三項第二具為原住民地原住民地區及離島地區之需要其與原版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第13條與原版第10條同民眾黨黨團提案第10條第二項首二具為政府機關構應支持協助辦理食物及複製法人團體或其他民間機構 |
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刪除第三項其餘願反同委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第12條政府於訂定社會救助相關計劃及補助時應將計劃及補助對上次營養問題納入考量以改善營養不良及提升健康飲食之可及性政府應鼓勵辦理食物及複製法人團體或其他民間機構於募集運用物資或辦理其他 |
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救助計劃時將受證對象之營養問題納入考量政府應考量偏遠及離島地區之需要訂立營養改善計劃或飲食供應之補助計劃第10條政府機關構於訂定社會救助相關計劃及辦理補助時應將計劃及補助對象之營養問題納入考量改善營養不良所致之體重過輕過重肥胖慢性病或其他健康問題及提升健康飲食獲取之可進行政府機關構應鼓勵辦理食物及福祉法人團體或其他民間機構 |
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於勿及運用食物及副物資或辦理其他救助計劃時,將受證對象之營養問題納入考量。政府機關構得考量偏遠援助民地區及離島地區之需要,訂定營養改善計劃或飲食供應之補助計劃。委員張玉梅等17人提案第11條與院版第10條同。 |
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委員邱太元等19人提案第11條政府於訂定社會救助相關計劃及補助時應將計劃及補助對象之營養問題納入考量以改善營養不良所致之健康問題及提升健康飲食政府應考量偏遠原住民地區及離島地區之需要訂定營養改善計劃或飲食供應之補助計劃委員陳敬明等18人提案第11條政府機關構於訂定社會補助相關計劃及辦理補助時得將計劃及補助對象之營養問題納入考量 |
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以改善對象營養不良狀態政府機關構應鼓勵辦理食物及複製法人團體或其他民間機構於募集運用食物及複製物資或辦理其他救助計劃時將授證對象之營養問題納入考量政府機關構得考慮特別弱勢家庭高營養風險族群 |
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偏鄉及離島族群及急慢性營養相關疾病患者之需要訂定營養改善計劃或飲食供應之補助計劃委員林淑芬等19人提案第13條政府機關構於訂定社會救助相關計劃及補助時應將計劃及補助對象之營養問題納入考量 |
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以改善營養不良所致之體重過輕過重肥胖慢性病或其他健康問題及提升健康飲食獲取之可敬性政府機關構應考量偏遠原住民地區及離島地區之需要訂定營養改善計畫或飲食供應之補給補助計畫 |
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委員陳佩玉等16人提案第12條與院版第10條同委員莊敬成等21人提案第11條與院版第10條同時代力量黨團提案第11條與院版第10條同委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第13條政府基於保障援助民族健康權益因應第8條國民營養及飲食調查或相關研究結果 |
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並考量原住民族地區之特性,定定原住民族營養及健康飲食促進計畫。政府機關構定定前項計畫時,應會商行政院原住民族委員會委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第14條,政府於進行災害防救糧食物資儲備時,應參採國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準。 |
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行政院提案第11條中央主管機關一第8條之營養調查研究結果發現人民缺乏特定營養素而有營養不良之餘時得提出營養強化建議鼓勵食品業者於食品中添加特定營養成分食品業者依前項建議於食品中添加特定營養成分應符合食品安全衛生管理法及其相關法規之規定委員劉建國等18人提案委員林惟洲等17人提案第11條中央主管機關一第8條之營養調查 |
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研究結果發現人民缺乏特定營養素顯有危害健康之餘時的公告該特定營養成分添加於指定食品該指定食品之製造業者應依公告內容添加該特定營養成分輸入業者輸入該指定食品應添加該營養成分並檢附原產國之製造廠商或負責廠商出具之產品營養成分報告公主管機關查核 |
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一、全項公告之特定營養成分及其所添加之食品均應符合食品安全衛生管理法及其相關法規之規定。委員吳玉琴等16人提案第14條中央主管機關一第9條之營養調查或相關研究結果發現人民缺乏特定營養素顯有危害健康之餘時得公告該特定營養成分添加於指定食品 |
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該指定食品之製造業者應依公告內容添加該特定營養成分輸入業者輸入該指定食品應添加該營養成分並減負原產國之製造廠商或負責廠商出具之產品營養成分報告供主管機關查核依前項公告之特定營養成分及其所添加之食品均應符合食品安全衛生管理法及其相關法規之規定。民眾黨黨團提案第12條 |
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眾院主管機關依第八條之營養調查研究結果發現人民缺乏特定營養素顯有危害健康之餘時得公告該特定營養成分添加於指定食品該指定食品之製造業者應依公告內容添加該特定營養成分輸入業者輸入該指定食品應添加該營養成分並減負原產國之製造廠商或負責廠商出具之產品營養成分報告供主管機關查核 |
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依前項公告之特定營養成分及其所添加之食品均應符合食品安全衛生管理法及其相關法規則規定。委員楊崇英等17人提案第11條。委員邱太元等19人提案第12條。修正人名為國民其餘與委員劉建國等18人提案第11條同。 |
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委員張玉美等17人提案第12條,修正人名為國民二字,其餘與院版第11條同。委員陳敬明等18人提案第12條,中央主管機關應建立高營養風險族群、偏鄉族群及極慢性營養相關疾病患者之營養調查及設定營養及飲食建議攝取基準。 |
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經調查若有發現缺乏特定營養素顯有危害健康之餘時,得公告提供或補充該特定營養成分添加食品,添加該特定營養成分,依前項公告之特定營養成分及其所添加之食品,均依符合食品安全衛生管理法及其相關法規之規定。委員林淑芬等19人提案第14條人民修正為國民其餘委員吳玉琴等16人提案同。 |
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委員陳佩玉等16人提案第13條中央主管機關議第8條之營養調查研究結果發現國民缺乏特定營養素而有營養不良之餘時得提出營養強化建議鼓勵食品業者於食品中添加特定營養成分及建議添加比例範圍食品業者依前項建議於食品中添加特定營養成分應符合食品安全衛生管理法及其相關法規定為依前項建議成分及比例添加者不得以營養或強化為 |
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為其品名標示宣傳或廣告。委員張俊成等21人提案。時代力量黨團提案第12條,首具第8修正為第9,七域院版第11條同。行政院提案第三章,健康飲食支持環境委員劉建國等18人提案。委員吳玉琴等16人提案。民眾黨黨團提案。委員蘇強威等23人提案。委員林維周等17人提案。委員楊瓊英等17人提案。 |
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委員邱太元等19人提案、委員陳敬明等18人提案、委員林淑芬等19人提案、委員陳培宇等16人提案、委員莊敬成等21人提案、時代力量黨團提案第三章健康飲食支持環境委員張玉美等17人提案第三章健康飲食之支持 |
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6331.698 |
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委員吳玉琴等16人提案第15條中央主管機關應會商各目的事業主管機關針對供應團體膳食機構訂定膳食供應規範以符合國民營養建議攝取基準。前項供應團體膳食機構之定義由中央主管機關另定之。民眾黨黨團提案第20條中央主管機關應會同各目的事業主管機關針對供應團體膳食機構訂定膳食供應規範以符合國民營養及飲食建議攝取基準。 |
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6365.982 |
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前向團體膳食機構之定義由中央主管機關定之委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第16條委員邱太元等19人提案第13條中央主管機關應就固定供應特定多數人餐食之團體膳食機構定定符合國民營養及飲食攝取基準之膳食供應規範 |
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6388.872 |
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委員林淑芬等19人提案。第15條中央主管機關因會商各目的事業主管機關針對供應團體膳食機構定定膳食供應規範以符合國民營養建議攝取基準,前項供應團體膳食機構之定義由中央主管機關另定之。委員莊敬成等21人提案第18條幼兒園及高級中等以下學校辦理飲食供應 |
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公己因依中央主管機關所定人民營養及飲食建議攝取基準及建議提供衛生安全及營養均衡之飲食。行政院提案第12條政府機關購於輔導食品業者開發產製食品及自備飲食時應納入營養之考量生產以在地農產品為主原料之食品及有益於人民之健康飲食。 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案第12條與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第16條與院版第12條同民眾黨黨團提案第13條政府機關構應納入營養之考量輔導食品業者於開發產製食品及自備飲食時生產以在地農產品為主原料之食品及有益於人民之健康飲食並促進健康飲食產業鏈之建立 |
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| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
6443.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
委員蘇強慧等23人提案第18條委員邱太元等19人提案第18條 |
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政府於輔導食品餐飲業者開發產製食品及自備飲食時應納入營養之考量生產以在地農產品為主原料之食品及有益於國民之健康飲食委員楊崇英等17人提案第12條政府機關購因輔導食品業者研發產製食品及自備有益國民健康食品時應納入營養之考量生產以在地農產品為主原料之食品及有益於國民之健康飲食委員張玉美等17人提案第13條 |
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6481.714 |
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修正人名為國民二字其餘與院版第12條同。委員陳敬明等18人提案第13條刪除及自備飲食時之文字其餘與院版第12條同。委員林淑芬等19人提案第16條與院版第12條同。委員陳培鈺等16人提案第15條政府機關購魚輔導食品業者開發產製食品 |
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及自備飲食時應納入營養之考量生產以在地農產品為主原料之食品及有益於國民之健康飲食委員莊敬成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案第13條同院版第12條委員蘇強慧等23人提案第19條中央主管機關為促進前條所定之事項應建立使用在地農產品原料與健康飲食之標章制度供國民選擇食品與飲食時參考 |
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前向標章制度之實施辦法由中央主管機關會同中央農業主管機關定之。委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第二十條中央主管機關因鼓勵以推動營養及健康飲食為目的之非營利民間法人團體之成立並建立專業認證制度。各級主管機關於推動本法所定之營養及健康飲食事項時,得指定或委託營養司法所定之營養諮詢機構或前向非營利民間法人團體為之。 |
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6549.116 |
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6558.495 |
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委員邱太元等19人提案第17條各級主管關於推動本法所定制營養及健康飲食事項時,得指定委託營養司法所定制營養諮詢機構為之。 |
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6561.567 |
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6585.146 |
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委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第21條鄉鎮市區之衛生所應設有營養師辦理社區營養及健康飲食教育提供營養及健康飲食諮詢服務並協助推動本法相關事項前向實施辦法由中央主管機關定之委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第22條委員邱太元等19人提案第18條政府應積極運用多元之方法宣導正確之營養及健康飲食諮詢 |
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6597.957 |
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行政院提案第13條中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育納入下列從業人員之在職訓練或繼續教育課程一、醫師、藥師、護理師、助產師、物理治療師、職能治療師、營養師、公共衛生師、藥劑師、護士、助產師、物理治療師及職能治療師二、長期照顧服務人員 |
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6611.63 |
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6625.747 |
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三、托育人員、早期療癒教保人員及早期療癒助理教保人員四、教保服務人員及課後照顧服務人員五、食品業者專門職業或技術證照人員六、其他經中央主管機關公告之人員 |
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6627.506 |
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6644.118 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案委員楊瓊英等17人提案第13條刪除住產屍頓耗及公共衛生屍頓耗其與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第17條與委員劉建國等18人提案第13條同民眾黨黨團提案第14條委員陳培鈺等16人提案第16條修正第一款為醫事人員其與院版第13條同委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第26條 |
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中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育納入下列從業人員致在職訓練或繼續教育課程一、醫事人員二、長期照顧服務人員三、托育人員、教保服務人員及課後照顧服務人員四、食品飲食業者專門職業或技術人員五、其他經中央主管機關公告職人員委員張玉美等17人提案第14條與院版第13條同。第14條 |
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修正序文具首為中央主管機關與各目的事業主管機關修正第一款為醫事人員其餘與院版第13條同委員林淑芬等19人提案第17條與院版第13條同委員莊俊成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案第14條同院版第13條 |
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6729.859 |
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行政院提案第14條政府機關購、行政法人、公立各級學校與幼兒園、軍隊、公民事業機構及政府捐助之財團法人辦理之活動或會議、採購禮品或其他物品及製作宣導品應納入健康飲食之考量。委員劉建國等18人提案、委員林維周等17人提案、委員楊瓊英等17人提案。第14條刪除軍隊二字倒數第三具具首增列以公務預算之印。其餘與院版同。 |
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6756.439 |
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委員吳玉琴等16人提案第18條與委員劉建國等18人提案第14條同民眾黨黨團提案第15條與委員劉建國等18人提案第14條同委員林維周等17人提案委員楊瓊英等17人提案委員陳敬敏等18人提案第15條委員林淑芬等19人提案第18條與委員劉建國等18人提案第14條同委員陳培宇等16人提案第17條與院辦第14條同 |
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6786.203 |
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委員莊敬成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案第15條與院版第14條同。行政院提案第15條,主管機關得獎勵政府機關構、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校幼兒園托育機構、軍隊法輪集團體、建構健康飲食環境、前項獎勵之對象條件方式申請程序、審查及其他相關事項之辦法,由中央主管機關定之。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
6792.27 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案委員楊瓊英等17人提案第15條主管機關得獎勵政府、機關構、社會福利機構、學校與幼兒園、軍隊、法輪廓團體建構健康飲食環境委員吳玉琴等16人提案第19條 |
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6803.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
6811.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
主管機關得獎勵政府機關構、社會福利機構、學校與幼兒援軍隊法人或團體建構健康飲食環境民眾黨黨團提案第16條主管機關應獎勵政府機關構、社會福利機構、學校與幼兒援軍隊法人或團體合作社、私人企業建構健康飲食環境包括社區共食、廚房及蔬食友善環境委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第17條 |
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6828.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
6843.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
中央主管機關得獎勵政府、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校與幼兒園、軍隊、法人或團體建構健康飲食環境。前項獎勵辦法由中央主管機關定之。委員張玉梅等17人提案第15條與院本同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
6845.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
6866.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
委員邱太元等19人提案第14條中央主管機關應獎勵政府、機關、國、醫事機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校與幼兒園、托育機構、軍隊、法人或團體建構健康飲食環境。傾向獎勵辦法由中央主管機關定之。委員陳敬明等18人提案第16條主管機關得獎勵政府、機關、國、醫事機構、社會福利機構、學校與幼兒園、軍隊、法人或團體建構健康飲食環境。 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
6874.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
6902.628 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
委員林淑芬等19人提案第19條與委員劉建國等18人提案第15條同。委員陳佩玉等16人提案第18條。主管機關得獎勵政府機關及社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、社區整體照顧服務體系各單位、學校幼兒園、托育機構、軍隊、公司、法輪及團體建構健康飲食環境。傾向獎勵之對象、條件、方式、申請程序、審查及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
6903.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
6932.239 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
委員莊敬成等21人提案第16條同院盤第15條時代力量黨團提案第16條主管機關得獎勵政府機關構、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校幼兒園托育機構、早期療育機構、安置及教養機構、矯正機關、軍隊、法輪及團體、建構健康飲食環境。前項獎勵之對象條件方式申請程序、審查及其他相關事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
6932.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
6946.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
行政院提案第16條父母、監護人或其他實際照顧兒童及少年之人應提供符合兒童及少年營養需求之飲食委員劉建國等18人提案委員張玉美等17人提案委員邱太元等19人提案第16條與院版同 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
6948.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
6954.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
委員吳玉琴等16人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案第20條委員陳培鈺等16人提案第19條與院版第16條同民眾黨黨團提案第17條與院版第16條同委員蘇強慧等23人提案第11條下列人員之家屬監護人或實際照顧者應注意依國民營養及飲食建議設取基準 |
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6968.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
6993.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
提供符合營養需求之飲食一、嬰幼兒、兒童及少年二、孕產婦三、老人、醫療或社會福利機構人員進行醫療或相關協助時應予選導之。委員凌維州等17人提案第16條增訂第二項如下老人撫養義務人應提供符合老人營養需求之飲食增訂第三項如下矯正機關一提供符合疾病 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
6994.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
7015.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
應提供符合疾患高齡受刑人之營養需求之飲食契約院版同委員陳敬明等18人提案第17條父母、監護人、老人、撫養義務人或其他實際照顧之人應提供符合兒童及老人營養需求之飲食委員莊敬成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案第17條同院版第16條 |
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7016.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
7032.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
行政院提案第17條幼兒園及高級中等以下學校公售飲品及點心應依幼兒教育及照顧法學校衛生法及其相關法令之公售原則或範圍辦理委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案第17條與院版同 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
7035.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
7057.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
委員吳玉琴等16人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案第21條修正第一句及第二句為幼兒園及高級中等以下學校供應飲品及點心。七、議院版第17條同民眾黨黨團提案第18條幼兒園及高級中等以下學校供受飲品及點心因應幼兒教育及照顧法學校衛生法之相關法令供受原則或範圍辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
7059.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
7070.928 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
委員楊崇英等17人提案第17條與首具據莫增列逗號其餘願反同。委員張一美等17人提案第17條與願反同。委員邱太元等19...抱歉。委員陳靜... |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
7072.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
7098.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
委員陳培宇等16人提案第20條幼兒園及高級中等影像學校供受飲品及點心因依幼兒教育及照顧法學校衛生法及相關法令之供受原則或範圍辦理委員莊敬成等21人提案第19條與院版第17條同時代力量黨團提案第18條幼兒園及高級中等影像學校供受飲食因依幼兒教育及照顧法學校衛生法及其相關法令之供受原則或範圍辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
7099.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
7117.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
民眾黨黨團提案第19條中央主管機關公告一定類別規模之餐飲業者應於公善場所之明顯出貨菜單上表示各類餐食之熱量、營養成分及其他營養相關資訊並同步上網揭露。傾向餐飲業者之類別規模營養訊息之內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
7121.156 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
7139.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
營養資訊標示方式及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第15條中央主管機關公告一定類別或規模以上直接供應飲食之場所應於供膳場所之明顯處或菜單上標示各類餐食之熱量、營養成分及其他營養相關資訊。前項營養資訊之內容標示方式及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
7147.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
7156.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
委員陳培鈺等16人提案第14條中央主管機關得公告指定一定類別、一定規模以上餐飲業者應於供應場所之明顯處或菜單上標示各類飲食之熱量、營養成分及其他營養資訊,如業者由網頁揭示餐飲品項者亦應標示之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
7180.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
前項餐飲業者之類別規模營養資訊之內容標示方式及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關定之。中央主管機關應會同目的事業主管機關針對供應團體膳食機構訂定膳食供應規範以符合營養及飲食建議攝取基準。前項供應團體膳食機構之定義由中央主管機關另定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
7215.328 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
行政院提案第四章營養及健康飲食教育委員劉建國等18人提案委員吳玉琴等16人提案民眾黨黨團提案委員蘇強威等23人提案委員林文周等17人提案委員楊春英等17人提案委員張玉美等17人提案委員邱太元等19人提案委員陳靜敏等18人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案委員陳培鈺等16人提案委員莊建成等21人提案時代力量黨團提案第四章營養及健康飲食教育 |
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7216.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
7237.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
委員蘇曉偉等23人提案第24條,營養及健康飲食教育應包含以下項目。一、透過良好的飲食習慣,適切地攝取營養保持健康之知識。二、加深對食材來源生產消費過程之了解,理解國家及在地之飲食文化。三、養成對生命及自然之尊重,並增進環境保護意識。 |
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7238 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
7246.337 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
四、其他營養及健康飲食相關智能委員陳培宇等16人提案第21條營養及健康飲食教育至少應包含下列內容。 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
一、學習如何判讀飲食的營養資訊選擇健康飲食的智能學習如何適當攝取營養以保持健康二、加強對飲食食材的生產消費過程的認識三、認識飲食來自自然環境的恩賜培養尊重生命及保護自然環境的觀念四、瞭解我國及國內不同地方不同時期的在地飲食文化五、其他營養及健康飲食相關智能 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
7274.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
7275.955 |
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委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第25條營養及健康飲食教育實施者需領有營養師證書並經中央主管機關或其指定之營養諮詢機構或經認證之民間法人團體培訓合格者 |
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7288.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
7304.356 |
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前向培訓實施辦法由中央主管機關定資。行政院提案第18條政府機關構行政法人公立各級學校與幼兒園、軍隊公營事業機構及政府捐助資財團法人應鼓勵員工接受營養及健康飲食教育。 |
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7305.851 |
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7334.029 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案委員楊瓊英等17人提案第18條與院版同委員吳玉琴等16人委員林淑芬等19人提案第22條與院版第18條同民眾黨黨團提案第21條政府機關構行政法人公立各級學校與幼兒園軍隊公營事業機構及政府捐助資財團法人應推動營養及健康飲食教育並與食農教育環境教育做適當結合 |
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7336.636 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
7341.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
委員林偉俊等17人提案、委員楊瓊英等17人提案、委員張玉美等17人提案第18條語願版同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
7345.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
7348.443 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第19條與院版第18條同。委員陳培宇等16人提案第22條政府機關各醫療機構護理機構社會福利機構長期照顧服務機構社區整體照顧服務體系各單位學校幼兒園托育機構軍隊公司法人團體或事業單位均應鼓勵員工接受營養及健康飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
7368.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
7383.058 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
委員莊敬成等21人提案第20條與院版第18條同時代力量黨團提案第19條與院版第18條同行政院提案第19條主管機關與各級目的事業主管機關應鼓勵政府、機關、各醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校幼兒園、托育機構、軍隊、法輪及團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放人民參與 |
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7395.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
7422.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案第19條主管機關與各級目的事業主管機關應鼓勵私立學校幼兒園法人及團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放供人民參與委員吳玉琴等16人提案第23條主管機關與各級目的事業主管機關應鼓勵私立學校幼兒園法人及團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放供人民參與民眾黨黨團提案第22條 |
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7424.978 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
7446.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
主管機關與各級目的事業主管機關應支持協助私立學校、幼兒園、法輪及團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育與食農教育、環境教育做適當結合並得開放供人民參與。前項鼓勵措施應訂定計劃、定期檢討或修正。各目的事業主管機關並應建立督導考核之辦理及指標。 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
7448.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
7467.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第28條主管機關與各目的事業主管機關應鼓勵政府機關構、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校或幼兒園、軍隊法輪或團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放供國民參與委員楊瓊英等17人提案第19條默具為並得開放供國民參與其予與委員劉建國等18人提案同委員張藝美等17人提案第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
7480.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
7490.045 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
委員邱太元等19人提案第20條主管機關與各目的事業主管機關應鼓勵政府機關構、醫事機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構、學校幼兒園、托育機構、軍隊法輪候團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放供國民參與。 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
7500.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
7514.033 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提議案第20條主管機關與各目的事業主管機關應鼓勵私立學校幼兒園法輪及團體對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放公人民參與委員林淑芬等19人提議案第23條莫具為 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
7516.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
7543.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
並得開放公國民參與其餘與委員劉建國等18人提案第19條同委員陳培鈺等16人提案第23條主管機關及目的事業主管機關應鼓勵政府機關構醫療機構護理機構社會福利機構長期照顧服務機構社區整體照顧服務體系各單位學校幼兒園托育機構軍隊公司法人團體及事業單位對其員工辦理營養及健康飲食教育並得開放非員工參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
7545.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
7564.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
委員莊敬成等21人提案第21條與院版第19條同時代力量黨團提案第20條與院版第19條同行政院提案第20條主管機關應鼓勵醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構對其服務對象及其家屬、社區居民進行營養及健康飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
7565.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
7586.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
委員劉建國等18人提案第二十條第一項首二據為主管機關與各目的事業主管機關應鼓勵一事機構增訂第二項各級農業主管機關應鼓勵農林漁牧業者結合食品業者、政府機關構、學校與幼兒園、法輪及團體推動營養及健康飲食教育期遇願反同 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
7587.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
7594.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
委員吳玉琴等16人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案第24條委員楊瓊英等17人提案第20條第一項與院版第20條同第二項與委員劉建國等18人提案第20條同民眾黨黨團提案第23條主管、機關應支持、協助、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
7608.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
7629.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
對其服務對象及其家屬、社區居民進行營養及健康飲食教育與食農教育、環境教育做適當結合。各級農業主管機關應支持協助農民與牧業者結合食品業者、政府機關構、學校與幼兒園法輪集團體推動營養及健康飲食教育與食農教育、環境教育做適當結合。 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
7630.464 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
7634.266 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第29條主管機關與各目的事業主管機關應鼓勵醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構對其服務對象及其家屬、社區居民辦理營養及健康飲食教育委員林惟洲等17人提案第20條與委員劉建國等18人提案同委員張一美等17人提案第20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
7653.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
7663.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構應對其服務對象及其家屬、社區居民進行營養及健康飲食教育委員邱太元等19人提案第21條主管機關應鼓勵醫事機構、護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構對其服務對象及其家屬、社區居民辦理營養及健康飲食教育第二項與委員劉建國等18人提案第20條同委員陳敬明等18人提案第21條刪除第二具 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
7682.059 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
7690.416 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
具首各級農業主管機關其餘委員劉建國等18人提案第20條同委員陳培育等16人提案第24條主管機關應鼓勵醫療機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
7693.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
7710.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
護理機構、社會福利機構、長期照顧服務機構及社區整體照顧服務體系各單位,對其服務地向及其家屬、社區居民辦理營養及健康飲食教育,農業主管機關應鼓勵農水畜產業者、結合食品餐飲業者、政府機關構、學校幼兒園工 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
7713.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
7734.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
公司、法人或團體推動營養及健康飲食教育請二項營養及健康飲食教育以結合食農教育及環境教育為之委員莊敬成等21人提案第22條與院版第20條同時代力量黨團提案第21條第一項與院版第20條同第二項與委員陳培宇等16人提案第24條第二項同 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
7736.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
7753.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
委員吳玉琴等16人委員林淑芬等19人提案第25條主管機關及各級目的事業主管機關應鼓勵供應團體善食之機關構及公司立場所推動營養及健康飲食教育前向營養及健康飲食教育之推動方式及獎勵措施由中央主管機關定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
7754.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
7773.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
委員陳佩玉等16人提案第28條本法定有應鼓勵事項者,其鼓勵方案之規劃執行及考核辦法由中央主管機關定之。行政院提案第21條中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育列入下列政府機關構、學校、幼兒園、民間機構或法輪評鑑或輔導項目一、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
7781.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
7790.812 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
二、托育機構找其療育機構安置及教養機構矯正機關與其他依法設立之收容安置及救養機構或場所。三、各級學校及幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
7792.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
7813.364 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
委員劉建國等18人提案。委員林維周等17人提案。第二十一條。續文目二具為學校及幼兒園民間機構或法人之評鑑或輔導項目。第二款為二、托嬰中心、早期療癒機構、安置及教養機構、矯正機關及其他依法設立之收容安置與救養機構或場所。其餘與院版同為 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
7814.744 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
7841.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
民眾黨黨團提案第24條中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育列入下列政府機關、各學校及幼兒園、民間機構或法輪之評鑑或輔導項目一、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構二、托嬰中心早期療癒機構安置及教養機構矯正機關及其他依法設立之收容安置與救養機構或場所委員蘇巧慧等23人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
7843.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
7855.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
第27條中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育之範圍及推動列入下列政府機關構、學校及幼兒園、民間機構或法輪之評鑑或輔導項目一、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構二、托育機構、早期療育機構、安置及教養機構、矯正機關及其他醫法設立及收容安置與救養機構或場所三、各級學校及幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
7870.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
7881.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
委員楊瓊英等17人提案第21條,增訂第4款。四、每日對特定群體固定公餐之政府機關構及私立機構團體,其餘委員劉建國等18人提案同。委員張玉梅等17人提案第21條, |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
7886.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
7908.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
下列機關構及公司立場所之目的事業主管機關應依營養調查及監測結果督導推動必要之營養改善措施一、醫療機構、護理機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧服務機構二、托育機構、早期療癒機構、安置及教養機構、矯正機關與其他依法設立之收容安置及救養機構或場所三、各級學校及幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
7909.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
7932.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育列入前項政府機關構學校幼兒園民間機構或法人之評鑑或輔導項目。委員陳敬明等18人提案第二十二條中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育列入下列政府機關構學校及幼兒園民間機構或法人之評鑑或輔導項目。一、醫事機構、社會福利機構及長期照顧機構。二、托嬰中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
7939.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
7944.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
早期療癒機構安置及教養機構矯正機關及其他依法設立之收容安置與救養機構或場所三、各級學校及幼兒園委員陳培宇等16人提案第25條第一款如下一、醫療機構護理機構社會福利機構長期照顧服務機構及社區整體照顧服務體系各單位其餘與院版第21條同委員莊敬成等21人提案第23條與院版第21條同 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
7966.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
7993.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
時代力量黨團提案第22條與院反第21條同。行政院提案第22條任何人不得利用廣告或其他方法傳播不實質營養及健康飲食消息。前項所稱利用廣告或其他方法傳播只利用電視、廣播、影片、換單片、報紙、雜誌、傳單、海報、招牌、牌坊、電腦、電話傳真、電子視訊、電子語音、網際網路或其他方法使不特定多數人知悉其宣傳內容者。 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
7995.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
8011.218 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
委員劉建國等18人提案第二十二條刪除所稱及頓耗網際網路之文字契約與原版同。委員吳玉琴等16人提案第二十六條與委員劉建國等18人提案第二十二條同。民眾黨黨團提案第二十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
8011.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
8025.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
因藥及健康飲食消息、宣傳及廣告內容之傳播,不得有虛偽或誇大不實之情勢。傾向虛偽、誇大之認定、基準、消息、宣傳或廣告之內容方式及其他因遵行事項之準則,由中央主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
8026.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
8049.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第23條,任何人不得利用廣告或其他方法傳播不實質營養及健康飲食訊息。前項利用廣告或其他方法傳播,指利用電視、廣播、影片、幻燈片、報紙、雜誌、傳單、海報、招牌、牌坊、電腦、傳真、電子視訊、電子語音、網路社群或其他方法使不特定多數人知悉其宣傳內容者。 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
8050.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
8059.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
委員林維周等17人提案第22條刪除第二項所稱二字契約與願反同。委員楊瓊英等17人提案第22條刪除所稱、換燈片、牌方、網際網路等文字契約與願反同。委員張玉美等17人提案第22條與願反同。 |
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8071.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
8093.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
委員邱太元等19人提案第19條任何人不得利用廣告或其他方法傳播不實質營養及健康飲食訊息。前項利用廣告或其他方法傳播只利用電視、廣播、影片、換燈片、報紙、雜誌、傳單、海報、招牌、牌坊、電腦、傳真、電子視訊、電子語音、網路、社群或其他方法使不特定多數人知悉其宣傳內容者。 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
8095.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
8105.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第23條任何人不得傳播不實質營養及健康飲食消息。前項傳播只利用電視、廣播、影片、換單片、報紙、雜誌、傳單、海報、招牌、牌坊、電腦、電話傳真、電子視訊、電子語音 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
8112.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
8123.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
網路、社群或其他方法使不特定多數人知悉其宣傳內容者委員林淑芬等19人提案第26條與委員劉建國等18人提案第22條同委員陳培鈺等16人提案第26條與院版第22條同委員莊敬成等21人提案第24條與院版第22條同時代力量黨團提案第23條與院版第22條同行政院提案第5章法則 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
8140.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
8164.776 |
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委員及黨團提案共計13案第五章均為罰則。行政院提案第二十三條違反前條第一項規定傳播不實質營養或健康飲食消息有影響人民健康之餘者直轄市縣市主管機關應令其限期改正。藉其為改正者處刑台幣三萬元以上、三十萬元以下罰款,並得按照處罰制改正為止。 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
8165.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
8182.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
委員劉建國等18人提案委員林維周等17人提案第二十三條第二句或改為即刪除直轄市縣市之文字其餘與原版同委員吳玉琴等16人提案第二十七條與委員劉建國等18人提案第二十三條同民眾黨黨團提案第二十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
8183.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
8200.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
違反前條第一項規定,有虛偽或誇大不實質營養及健康飲食消息,有影響人民健康之餘者,主管機關應令其限期改正。借其為改正者處新台幣5萬元以上30萬元以下罰還,得按次處罰制改正,並得按次處罰制改正為止。 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
8202.061 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
8216.355 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第31條違反第23條第一項規定傳播不實質營養及健康飲食消息有影響人民健康之餘者主管機關應令其限期改正。藉其未改正者處刑台幣3萬元以上30萬元以下罰還,並得按次處罰至改善為止。 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
8220.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
8245.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
委員楊瓊英等17人提案第23條違反前條第一項規定傳播不實質營養及健康飲食消息有影響國民健康之餘者主管機關應令其限期改正。藉其為改正者處新台幣5萬元以上30萬元以下罰還並得按次處罰至改正為止。委員張玉美等17人提案第23條修正人名為國民二字區域院版同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
8247.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
8262.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
委員邱太元等19人提案第23條違反第19條第1項規定傳播不實質營養及健康飲食消息有影響人民健康之餘者主管機關應令其限期改正,藉其為改正者處新台幣3萬元以上30萬元以下罰款,並得按次處罰至改正為止。 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
8266.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
8280.671 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第24條違反前條第一項規定傳播不實質營養及健康飲食消息有影響人民健康之餘者,只管機關應令其限期改正。藉其為改正者儲新台幣5萬元以上、35萬元以下罰還,並得按次處罰至改正為止。 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
8285.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
8291.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
委員林淑芬等19人提案第27條與委員劉建國等18人提案第23條同委員陳培宇等16人提案第27條修正人民為國民二字契約與院版同委員莊敬成等21人提案第25條 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
8302.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
8310.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
違反前條第一項規定傳播不實質營養或健康飲食消息有影響人民健康之餘者處心台幣3萬元以上30萬元以下罰還並令其限期改善藉其為改善者得按次處罰時代力量黨團提案第24條與院版第23條同 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
8319.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
8348.079 |
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委員劉建國等18人提案、委員林惟洲等17人提案、委員楊瓊英等17人提案。第24條,指定食品之製造業者或輸入業者違反第11條第一項規定,為依公告內容添加特定營養成分或輸入之食品為添加特定營養成分或為減負相關證明者,主管機關應令其限期改善。藉其為改善者處新台幣一萬元以上十萬元以下罰款,並得按照處罰制改善為止,輸入前項指定食品。 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
8348.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
8361.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
經通關查驗不符合第11條第一項規定者,中央主管機關應管制其輸入,並格為前項之處分。委員吳玉琴等16人、委員林淑芬等19人提案第28條第一項及第二項為第14條第一項規定,其餘與委員劉建國等18人提案第24條同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
8370.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
8381.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
民眾黨黨團提案第27條委員邱太元等19人提案第22條第一項及第二項為第12條第一項規定其餘委員劉建國等18人提案第24條同 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
8384.383 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
8412.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第25條,指定食品制製造業者或輸入業者違反第12條第二項規定未亦公告內容,添加特定營養成分或輸入之食品,為添加特定營養成分或減負相關證明者,主管機關應令其限期改善,藉其為改善者儲新台幣3萬元以上15萬元以下罰還,並得按次處罰至改善為止,輸入前項指定食品,經 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
8413.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
8441.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
通關查驗不符合第12條第二項規定者,中央主管機關應管制其輸入,並得為前項之處分。委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第30條,餐飲業者未依第15條第一項規定標示或違反第15條第二項未依中央主管機關所定標示內容或標示方式,經主管機關命其限期改正,藉其不改正者處心台幣三千元以上、一萬元以下罰款,並得按次處罰。 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
8442.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
8459.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
委員劉建國等18人提案、委員林惟洲等17人提案、委員陳敬明等18人提案第26條。單發所定制法則由地方主管機關為之,必要時得由中央主管機關為之。行政院提案第6章負責。委員及黨團提案第13案第6章均為負責。 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
8462.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
8470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
行政院提案第25條等法制公佈日施行委員劉建國等18人提案第27條委員吳玉琴等16人提案第30條民眾黨黨團提案第29條委員蘇喬惠等23人提案第33條委員林惠洲等17人提案第27條委員楊瓊英等17人提案第26條委員張玉美等17人提案委員邱太元等19人提案第25條 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
8485.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
8497.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
委員陳敬明等18人提案第28條。委員林淑芬等19人提案。委員陳培育等16人提案第30條。委員莊敬成等21人提案第27條。時代力量黨團提案第26條。與院版第25條同。 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
8503.808 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
8514.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
行政院提案第24條本法施行細則由中央主管機關定之委員劉建國等18人提案第26條委員吳玉琴等16人提案第29條民眾黨黨團提案第28條委員蘇巧慧等23人提案第32條委員林維周等17人提案第26條委員楊瓊英等17人提案第25條 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
8526.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
8539.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
委員張玉美等17人提案委員邱泰源等19人提案第24條與院版同委員陳敬明等18人提案第27條委員陳培宇等16人提案委員林淑芬等19人提案第29條委員莊敬成等21人提案第26條時代力量黨團提案第25條與院版第24條同以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
8548.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
8576.113 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
修正綜藝第一案第13條序文修正為中央主管機關與中央目的事業主管機關應推行並鼓勵營養及健康飲食教育納入下列人員之在職訓練或繼續教育課程第一款修正為從事相關工作之醫事人員增訂第二款公共衛生師其餘各款與院版同並順原序號 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
8578.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
8606.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
第二十一條續文莫具修正為民間機構或法人之輔導項目其餘與院板同提案委員邱太元、嚴署委員蘇巧慧、吳玉琴修正動議第二案第二十一條續文莫具修正為民間機構或法人之輔導項目其餘與院板同提案委員吳玉琴、邱太元、蘇巧慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
8608.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
8629.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
修正動議第三案第九條第三項修正為中央主管機關因依第一項之基準並考量人民宗教信仰、區域及文化差異、氣候變遷及環境永續提出飲食建議其餘同行政院版第十二條政府機關構與輔導食品餐飲業者開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
8635.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
8655.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
產製食品及自備飲食時應納入營養之考量生產以在地農產品符合環境永續與提升動物福利為主原料之食品及有益於人民之健康飲食提案委員蘇曉慧聯署委員吳玉琴賴會員宣讀完畢我們現在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
8663.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
8690.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
現在進行營養及健康飲食促進法草案及國民營養及健康飲食促進法草案之主條審查,以行政院提議案條字為準,進行討論每條條文,請先請行政單位說明,接著請委員表意見。來,資料從看哪一個,看這一個,大本的齁。好,謝謝主席齁。我們開始一個一個齁,名稱。 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
8692.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
8706.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
從章年開始行政院的版本是營養及健康飲食促進法草案謝謝委員提議有些是以國民為主因為在我們審理法條的時候那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
8708.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
8737.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
我們的法官會建議說依聯合國人權公約提及保障人權的規定以及本法是以人們為主體所以在法條說明裡面不建議在這個草案的名稱特別強調建立委能夠支持委員有沒有意見沒有意見通過先等一下人數不足啦先討論一下下面有兩位兩位才能決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
8738.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
8738.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
那誰會來?蛤?誰? |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
8738.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
8753.057 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆會員 齊智隆 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
8755.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
8774.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
那第一張是不是先主席在底下的所有條文如果有寫國民的是不是以病修正為倫敏好沒有問題就這樣子齁好謝謝按照行政院提案好第一張總則齁那謝謝大家各委員提案都現在滿本一致我先講沒有問題就一直過好第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
8775.782 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
8797.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
第1條未建國健康飲食支持環境提升人民營養及健康飲食資能增進人民健康特制定本法那建議以行政院版本為大概因為委員的意思大概涵蓋在這個行政院版本裡面好我們先這樣子沒有問題第一條再來第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
8803.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
8830.787 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
第二條只要是這些本法用詞定義那第一項是營養指的是人體利用食物中所以是用法定義那各位有一些建議就是希望能夠在第五款行政院的營養調查裡面加上營養及飲食調查那因為這個整部法令牽扯的是營養跟飲食所以我們也同意這樣修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
8833.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
8844.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
對,第五款第五款本法用詞跟定義第五款營養調查改成營養及飲食調查我猜你現在這個是行政院辦嘛,要改做叫做按什麼人的這個蘇小愛委員的建議營養及飲食調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
8861.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
8883.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
好來來來吳衛奴在我想這個我沒有特別意見反而是有關於飲食的教育反而是在蘇委員蘇巧慧委員好像在24條對於等一下我要翻到那一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
8888.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
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他的24條有一個營養及健康飲食教育的算是內涵那我也要請教署長的是在這一部法裡面其實在後面非常多營養及健康飲食教育但是反而在定義裡面沒有特別去寫營養 |
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《營養及健康飲食促進法草案》案是指什麼?你的定義反而沒有寫。因為我們在第四款的時候是講健康飲食啦。健康飲食。對。啊沒有教育啊。因為他那個巧惠委員的健康飲食。啊就是針對健康飲食來推廣跟教育。哦,可是那個巧惠委員的那個健康飲食教育他反而是回到學校衛生法裡面的定義耶。 |
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當然這個資料是在後面啦但是因為你現在這一條第二條是一個定義啦所以有沒有必要在這裡去定義這個營養及健康飲食教育因為我對這個概念有點模糊在我們推廣健康飲食的時候就是在定義上其實我們針對的是健康飲食這個名字 |
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對那教育他就是就是內容來做健康飲食推展的內容來做教育這樣好教育只是其中重要的活動那定義當然還是把營養這個比較專業的定清楚比較重要好吧我們第二條就先改成營養及飲食調查這樣的情況我們就沒有問題等一下再來切的第三條 |
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第三條本法所稱主管機關在中央為衛生福利部在私下縣市為私下縣市政府在縣市為縣市政府本法所定事項涉及各目的事業主管機關的執掌者由各目的事業主管機關辦理那相關的委員的建議因為這是目前的行政院的一個法制的作業的體育所以建議以行政院版本為主 |
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第四條中央主管機關掌理下類營養及健康飲食促進事項一、政策與方案規劃制定 |
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幾先導。二、直轄縣市主管機關執行之監督及協調。三、講述及評鑑之規劃。四、人聯訓練之規劃及推動。五、國際交流合作。六、其他應由中央主管機關辦理之事項。那個署長有時候你不用全部再練一遍,剛剛都練過了,你只要把它重... |
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跟大家不一樣的地方,你的意見這樣子就好,你們的意見因為劉委員是講把地方主管機關寫上去那這個剛剛已經通過了就建議不放在這裡那現在吳委員所提的就是把我們辦理事項再詳細的表列出來那這個部分也希望委員能夠因為我們這個已經相關細項可能會在細則裡面去處理最後就是委員所提的有關經費的匡列的部分 |
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建會的部分那就請待會看主計上是不是有另外意見齁這個部分再請大家看一下那其他的相關事項都已經涵蓋在我們這個行政院的版本裡面主計你剛剛講了匡列預算匡列預算要寫在這裡嗎 |
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可能有有有有些專業會在乎預算吶吼那我們是不是在哪個地方在做討論這個地方把他加進來適當嗎?市長沒關係你就看吼你怎麼你說的沒關係吼好我們是建立說吼這一條大事項就在這裡所以我是覺得說我們那部分非常熟悉他的前後對寸吶吼免得就這樣啊 |
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但是你還是要把委員大概整體這些日子來聽到的事情到時候必要的時候都在那邊做一個說明因為相關建委是依照這個預算法來執行的所以我們是建立暫時不列好第四條就先用這種方式來來 |
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主席謝謝那因為在第四條我好像也有建議修正那剛剛好像在署長並沒有把我們的這個建議採納那也沒有提到為什麼沒有採納這個第四條這邊我有把主要負責的一個事項有新增的第五款就是營養及飲食建議攝取基準之訂定 |
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健康飲食或營養相關重大事件處理之建議那我想這個主要就是這個法很重要的精神所以把相關我們中央跟地方要負責的一個事項把這個地方有增列進來那署內沒有採任不曉得為什麼吼跟委員說明一下吼那有關這個營養與健康飲食的基準那在我們第 |
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第九條,第八條裡面就會建置食品營養成分的資料庫。第九條也會已經有訂定人民營養及健康飲食設計的基準。好,所以後面有的啦齁。不過我還是補充一下,你那個第三條嗎,第三款吧,講主席評鑑之規劃,評鑑不是要拿掉嗎?所有的評鑑。欸,主席。 |
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我先說明一下我的條文裡面的一二三款當然有去對照了現在的條文我的第一款就是現在條文的第八條會處理有關營養的調查跟監測再來第二條第二款的部分營養的基準會在第九條處理 |
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第三條,第三款的部分也就是可能跟那個陳靜敏委員我們有12條但是我們等一下可能進入到12條的時候我們是覺得在12條應該針對我們一些特殊飲食的部分應該要有一些還是要有一個營養跟飲食的指引所以待會可能進到那一邊要一起再討論那所以這個條文是比較建議是先 |
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保留我們可以看一下那另外剛呃召委在談的那個評鑑喔那我們在後面都有提到那個評鑑要拿掉對可是那個評鑑是針對營養教育呃營養健康教育要入入各各單位各各個評鑑的指標我們反我們不太支持啦齁所以我們把那個評鑑拿掉就是只有輔導可是在這裡應該是一個中央比較 |
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議員吳玉琴等16人擬具 |
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更混亂或是壓力更大所以這個層次上是有些不同所以我是覺得這個第四條的這個第三款講注及評鑑的規劃那是他們的中央跟地方的權限所以我是建議說這個可以保留因為這個法是一種大法盡量不要去動到人家自己本來已經在做的事情那你寫了以後 |
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我還講雞毛當令箭,很多以後將來就是這樣衍生出來的,會滋生很多的問題。那可能,所以這個部分也經過曲水一段長時間的那個的討論,應該也不至於影響到我們要推這個法裡面的。我們是大概都是盡量以鼓勵的性質啦。所以也不是說只有那個 |
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在長照啦什麼那個地方評鑑才需要拿掉我想這個精神上恐怕也是要那個也是要考量他整個法的精神齁如果太多的那個恐怕這個法就會很多的更會陷入爭議喔可能因為後面就像有的提出來的像EJ提出來的就他們覺得也不要弄得 |
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就提這個獎勵及規劃嘛,把他吊,像這樣。那這個可能,可能行政部門你們部門要針對這個法的精神,來做一點那個法的精神在哪裡。 |
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是站得住這個法,其實就可以把我們這個法的價值呈現出來。你那些憑證那些憑證,為什麼那些拿到,那些沒拿到,你告訴我,會很複雜。 |
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謝謝,謝謝趙委員吼,那我們還是想感謝委員的一個支持,還是希望能夠說在這個法令裡面來講是等於是教導民眾來對健康飲食營造整個環境所以四大面向裡面來講都是我們推動這個健康飲食促進法的一個基本的精神所在 |
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那中央跟地方的話透過我們的考評指標其實就涵蓋在我們跟地方的一個協調跟溝通上面所以這裡的福島規劃平建的計畫我們是覺得說可以改成福島那比較柔性也可以達到目的安安請委員能夠支持所以的意思就是變成福島講住及福島講住及福島 |
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好吧主席那那個第21條他這裡還是叫做評鑑或輔導等一下全部我們會處理好好大概全部評鑑在適當的機會拿掉那如果覺得好像要留下一點輔導的也許可以留下來我想是不是這樣比較好啦吼也也的確是吼要的要那個關心跟幫忙啦吼 |
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我們都是這個法基本是政府要出來幫忙大家幫忙各單位來推動這個可能用這種精神會比較更好一點好那我們就原則上就是先公示這樣子那等一下就再來確認那第五條 |
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第五條也就是說他特別明定劉委員還有吳琴也特別明定地方主管機關這個也建議就一定修訂那民眾黨所提的也就相關第一團裡面所提的這個國民營養工作法規等等相關的一些指導細節那個也是在相關的條文裡面其實就已經有涵蓋在裡面了所以我們也覺得說這個部分 |
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也不需要在這裡特別再把它調整出來。那他在第六民眾黨提案裡面來講,第六項有一個地方各目的事業機關機關必須要叫經會的編列跟督導及執行國民營養工作的協調。還有第 |
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第二項就是地方國民營養改善的經費是編列及轄區國民營養改善計畫。這裡要牽扯到營養這個經費的一個爭取齁跟編列的方式。那我們是建立說還是維持行政的版本。那剛剛提到的中央的那個評鑑已經拿掉。所以是被徵求委員的同意我們這裡也把評鑑改成輔導計畫。好輔導評鑑改成輔導計畫齁這個大概有共識。然後 |
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我們尊重行政院啦,因為我想所有的法裡面都有一些專業的人想要去爭取基金或爭取預算,出了變預算,這個我們內心都很期待,但是我們過去也做了這麼多的法齁,要做的事情行政機關就會幫你去做啦,就幫你變預算,最重要是我們各專業團體你要提計,你要去建立計畫,我相信只要有計畫, |
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時間題應該就有預算,就會有預算的跟著來。時間規劃的預算,哇大家這個在我以前的經驗裡面是在行政院是比較難同意這樣的處理方式,所以要請大家諒解。我還是請那個專業團體能夠盡量提出裡面對人民健康有什麼想法的一個建議,我相信 |
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國建署或是衛福部一定會從善如流來把這個大家的想法弄進來然後當然有計畫他們就會去爭取預算那在預算後面我們立法院也會全力來支持好不好我們就按照行政院的一個修正的一個 |
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講述及輔導計劃以外就按照行政案版這樣公示好第六等下我就直接直接說通過通過通過我不要再練一遍了就按照這樣子做了第六條在進入行政案版第六條之前這裡吳玉琴委員在有增訂了第六條吼就包括吳玉琴委員 |
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還有林淑穩委員還有莊敬成委員以及時代力量他特別在希望能夠增訂第六條主管機關及各目的社會主管機關應逐年編列預算辦理有關營養及健康飲食之促進以衛教先導之工作那口頭跟大家報告一下其實我們今年的 |
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議算是在營養推廣的部分那邊內的1.2億那明年已經成長到2.3億剛提到的我們行政部門一定會依據我們的需求跟規劃那會依行政院規定的議算法來提出爭取所以是不是建立可以不用爭內好好我委員來 |
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來,第二條,第六條嘛對,我們的第六條是本席的第六條還有林淑溫委員的第六條莊敬成委員還有時代力量黨團的提案這個部分我想剛剛在談預算的增加預算的部分在前面中央的跟地方的角色都有提到但是我們沒有特別把它列在那邊是因為我們的條文會在第六條單獨列出來 |
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那在各法裡面尤其這種所謂宣誓性的條文還是表明政府的態度是逐年便利預算或寬類預算其實在過去我們在訂定口腔健康法原住民健康法都有類似的定法就是我們宣誓這個其實真的是宣誓 |
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議員吳玉琴等16人擬具 |
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我到時候還是要來檢視你們有沒有編但是說真的這個我覺得是應該可以照我們的看是因逐年編列預算或寬列預算我覺得這個部分應該要放進去因為這個是一個政府的宣誓第六條我們的第六條行政院沒有這個條文在第13頁 |
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主席有看到我們的是第6條。嗯。 |
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我知道行政院對這個每年編列預算我相信所有的法大家都很希望寫這個而且一定也有很多專業團體遊說但是問題是我們要站在行政院的立場以前我們也處理過好多次像中醫藥發展法他們極端要去處理要去處理這個基金跟預算 |
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那個不是基金有困難預算本來就會編嘛有需要再寫嗎?就是宣誓嘛我說主席現在補充一下過去我們在討論各個法裡面最困難是基金的設立啦基金的設立因為財政紀律法框住了所以有它設立的困難所以我們當時包括原住民健康法或是中醫藥基金也設了可是那個實質的意義不太大 |
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那這個其實是一個完全宣誓那有哪個法有寫出說主人編列預算寬列預算的有口腔健康法跟原住民健康法基本上是宣誓性的就是用寬列預算那這個要編給誰當然是執行這個業務啊 |
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什麼業務?是執行這個業務?哪一個業務?剛剛營養及健康飲食促進的衛教?也許是整體的業務?整體的業務啊,剛剛署長也提到說今年編了1.2億嘛,明年要編2.3億嘛,所以他們在公務預算相關的預算裡面都會做一些編列嘛。 |
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我們不規範他,他還在編列啦其實我覺得就是說在我們推動這個法案的情形之下我們也是希望能夠比較明確的是他不只是只有一個標的性的說我們該怎麼做而是實際上具體要怎麼做包括編列預算都應該含進去來達到我們希望能夠促成的營養和健康飲食方面的促進和衛生宣導的工作 |
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其實吳委員有解釋這並不是我們首創的啦其實在其他法案上也有大家的概念所以不只是希望能夠大方向上能夠來做推動修法實際上我們也希望有一個配套就是要來逐年編列預算來執行我覺得這是大家的共同的期待啦那也希望部會這邊能夠考慮一下謝謝那可不可以我也不反我實際上我不反對喔那個只是說尊重行政院的一個好處理啦那如果大家有一人是不是有可能會加在哪一個部門的後面這樣子 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 |
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你要看的話怎麼樣跟委員報告就是這一條條文剛剛衛福部這邊已經有說明就是這幾年其實都有逐年編列預算而且113年正式是大幅增長那其實這一條條文上它其實沒有違反就是預算法的一些或是財計法的相關規定那我們尊重衛福部的意見以上 |
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主席部是比較尊重衛生部的意見,但是委員也有意見嘛,所以那個有沒有辦法在第五條裡面來琢磨一點你現在突然多一條這個齁,好像稍微那個為什麼不再說在已經在做的人 |
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他們在做這麼多的時候應該要去編預算這樣子我是覺得都可以啦我們可不可以提個建議案看看好不好剛剛的第四條我為什麼會這樣提我們當第四條已經通過本來不應該再回去啦為了不這樣條文因為當然還沒有做確認嘛是不是在 |
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在第四條的部分吼一、二款下面那麼針對一個叫做經費之編類與執行那三、四、五、六就往後延啦。要不要委員同不同意這樣的做法。這樣我們就不用增加條文。向次就增加管制就好了。阿這只有中央主管機關嘛。阿第五條就是地方嘛。 |
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在第五條的在第一項以下就是寫了一個叫做第二款寫建委之編類與執行第三款地方各務第四頁主管機關建委之編類之督導及協調然後其餘的二三四五往後延 |
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我覺得這樣可能也不錯啦就是至少有把很多專業團體的沒有很多啦有一兩個專業團體很期待主席我還是要提一下就是說我們各委員的版本都早先於行政院的版本所以我們有一些條文多出來我覺得是正常的因為我們是在你們之前就提出來了 |
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那這個條文其實在立法的技術上面我想議事組應該可以協助啦我們議事人員可以協助那就是順下來而已我們先待會討論還是照行政院的條文來討論但是未來就是由主席授權議事組把那個條次做調整這個不會亂因為我們後面還有要增加的條文好像我們現在就不能增加那我們後面條文怎麼增加呢所以我覺得這個部分條文增加你剛 |
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署長說放在四條第四條中央跟地方的職責我覺得那個感覺是沒有去凸顯了對這個這部法對預算的編列的誠意啦因為其實我們的寫法其實是很清楚讓大家看到我們有編列預算而且主任都在編列預算那我覺得這個是在各法其實很多法都這樣寫沒有違反財政紀律法所以寫上去對你們壓力也沒有那麼大啦 |
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但是讓我們對這件事這個立法感覺或是讓大家看到欸真的有啊有啊要有誠意啊要做這些事情啊所以我覺得這個應該是我覺得放上去沒有問題增加一個條文沒有問題啊這個到時候就授權我們議事處來協助我們把那個條文順下來不會影響啦那個齁如果剛剛大家研究一下不然就如果第六條把它放到第八條齁把在這一張的最後面齁 |
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應該是應該是比較順啦因為把整個都談好了以後再來談這個這樣子好吧那個我以為你們行政部門不是都溝通好了嗎不反對喔那如果我放在後面第8條行政部門你覺得怎麼樣 |
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這樣的用詞可以嗎?都可以,可以啦,我們會尊重立法院的多數...好啦,那就連著上放到第8條好了,好不好?增加到第8條好了,這樣比較不用影響那麼多。主管機關齁,那個幾個目的十二的主管機關應主點編列預算辦理有關營養及...這也不錯啦,是促進及衛教宣導工作。好。 |
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文字就是按照這樣子嘛,把它弄到第8條而已嘛,這樣前面省得再去動它啦。好,我們這條是第...我先確認這個弄到第8條啦,那我們剛剛現在在講第6條嘛,第6條結束了嗎?那要不要...重頭嗎?好好好 |
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第一個名稱就是按照行政院版通過第一張總則按照行政院通過然後第一條因為行政院認得這樣的名稱是OK的所以就第一條也是按照行政院版通過第二條在第五款營養調查這裡加上營養及飲食調查我想這個部分有些委員都這樣的建議 |
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新機關也從善如流所以第二條大概是這樣子修正通過然後第三條是就因為這是主觀機關這個大概沒有什麼爭議就第三條就這樣通過案行政法通過第四條也案行政法有修正修正對講述及輔導之規劃修正通過 |
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講述及輔導之規劃嗎?主席對不起第四條我因為我的第三款還沒有處理所以也是未來要新增的條文所以我才說第四條可能要先保留因為我不是21是我的12條後面會提到有關特殊飲食的部分特殊需求飲食的部分 |
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第16條會有處理看一下因為16條所以我們第4條就修正修正後通過獎勵及輔導之規劃 |
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然後第五條也是一樣講述及輔導計畫之定定這是一個地方一個中央就修正通過第六條現在在討論來請說 |
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第六條那因為第一個當然也是地方這個部分也是希望能夠以體力來處理那謝謝我們民眾黨團還有消委員說各級機關應該要設立營養及健康專業的專責單位那因為考量市社 |
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非常廣泛在執行上有一些困難所以還是希望能夠以專業的人員來處理這件事情所以我們還是希望說指甲縣以我們行政院的版本因為我們現在版本就是以指定營養相關專業單位或人員來在社區裡面來執行那目前我們也是在社區裡面廣設這個社區營養推廣中心及 |
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聘任專業的營養師來做從事相關的營養工作所以我們是希望能夠這個部分能夠維持行政院的版本也希望各位人能夠同意雖然我的版本不太一樣但是我後來還是支持行政院的版本因為行政院版本後面的說明其實相當的完整不曉得第6條大家有沒有意見來請 |
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就是我想第6條有關營養這個相關專業單位或人員這個部分能不能請國界署也再說明清楚到底指的是什麼因為如果現在有的這個地方是社區營養中心它到底是一個什麼樣的單位是我們署裡面或鼓勵地方政府設的一個單位那 |
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那叫專業單位嗎?還是一個專責單位?那我是覺得這裡我們在各法在訂定的時候其實比較多是談專責單位或人員因為不敢說一定要有一個專責但有一個專責單位或人員這樣子 |
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比較是一般我們常看到的文字那這裡又特別寫專業單位我就有點混淆了你知道嗎所以能不能再說明清楚到底這個部分是什麼樣的專業團體專業單位因為如果以政府部門應該是一個專責單位或是專業人員我們沒有設定一定要專業專責單位但是人員或人員是OK的所以能不能說明清楚一下 |
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應該是這樣說為了推廣社區的營養因為各機構比如醫療機構相關的機構或者是裡面其實也有設了相關的營養師來做輔導為了讓社區民眾廣泛能夠接受避免說在醫院裡面通常都到疾病以後才能夠接受到營養的教育所以其實在社區裡面推動營養是一件很重要的事情 |
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所以我們從106年開始就在補助地方政府就是由地方政府來辦理這件事情那麼他必須要在他社區裡面來辦理這個社區營養推廣中心然後聘任專業的營養師來做這件事情那相關的經費跟人員的費用那麼是由中央編列預算來補助好 |
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專業單位但是在局裡面政府機關過才有專責所以我們是用專業的人來處理這件事這個其實吳委員是想了解這個這個專業到底是怎麼樣的情況其實這個就是到幾年前我們在審公共衛生司法的時候我們一直請教營養師你們在社區有沒有哪些是你們的專業但是營養師協會都沒有出來 |
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給太多針對那個法有什麼意見那現在就會碰到這個問題有些事情是誰要做那你現在這個姿勢體大了啦這個真的不是在這邊你能夠我認得不太可能你會講得很清楚一定要跟相關的部門公共衛生室已經有這些東西很多都是公共衛生室已經在他的當時的八個還是九個業務範圍裡面的其中有喔那怎麼去區隔 |
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這個就是我們立法常常過去在我也是很擔心的嘛就是大家壓來壓去弄到最後到底是怎麼樣這樣子那全民都可以做 |
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不過這個是全民都可以健康啦,全民都可以營養就沒有問題。也許我們這個比較用開放的胸襟來看這個啦,因為每一個專類都有他自己的法嘛,營養師有營產司法、公會師也有公會司法的嘛。對不對,我們這個地方是站在人民的立場,來讓法案能夠更寬廣的來做這個讓我們 |
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政府在國外也會符合世界潮流也會站得住腳我們也是往這方面那未來很多很多的國家的發展政策也是都會很顧及到這個層面所以我覺得盡量讓他寬廣也不要設的太到時候會自己會影響到自己也不好我覺得這個部分可能第六條是不是 |
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行政院這個是比較寬廣,比較宏觀一點,那至於說以後要怎麼寫他的業務內容,是不是我們好好的再去再細則,是再細則嗎?還是執法?這個會有執法或細則嗎?會有細則 |
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對阿細則嘛好不好自己好好的定義喔請相關的單位都要來談喔看怎麼樣共同攜手合作不用擔心那些服務不完啦那些服務的範圍服務不完大家都很有機會來發揮手長不用擔心啦再問最後一次專業單位跟專責單位的差別在哪裡 |
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專責是我組織裏面政府部門有一個部門阿專業呢?專業單位的概念是什麼?專業就是這個團體就是專業的團體在執行的這個當然就是專業的團體是這個是一個專業團體對專業單位單位我們是主席 |
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主席這個好像署長越解釋我越模糊了齁如果那個社區營養推廣中心應該是已經很明確就是我們補助地方政府來申請設置社區營養推廣中心嘛那我真的也去查了我們現在雖然是說22縣市都有社區營養推廣中心但是現在這個中心全部都是在衛生所內 |
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而且已經從2018年推廣到現在。署長請問我們現在有多少有多少社區營養推廣中心? |
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四十三個社區營養推廣中心六十四位營養師是,所以我們現在您剛講的要廣為推廣,如果只是期待社區營養推廣中心,不可以啦因為你現在這麼多衛生所,你從2018年推廣到現在才四十幾個而且全部都在衛生所內耶所以我不曉得他為什麼要跌床駕屋在衛生所內還要在設一個社區營養推廣中心,這個其實就是 |
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那個吳委員一直在講我們到底他是一個專責單位專責單位感覺他是一個中心沒錯是專責單位可是他又在衛生所內做的是他的專業業務所以我真的覺得越聽越模糊嘞好啦我想這個專責單位會會會會設定下去齁我就覺得像護理員護理人員、低端護士我以前當過衛生所主任啊低端護士的經過營養的一個訓練 |
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也做很多的提請很多教育促進活動嘛。啊現在阿拜你如果太嚴重我說你這條太嚴重大家都不用做了啦。對不對?所以我覺得這個如果沒有這條如果沒有開放一點齁 |
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你會發生你會發生寸步燃起我剛剛提到特別說為什麼我們剛剛這個謝謝陳委員的說明我們也覺得全國368個鄉鎮那368鄉鎮這個民眾這麼多那麼這樣的速度有一點慢所以我剛剛也特別提到了我們明年度就倍增這個計畫因為從64位倍增到124位 |
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所以我們剛剛提到的為竹聯編列預算也是個道理那怎麼樣能夠提供全民更廣泛更能夠得到營養的一個教育跟推廣那這個東西所以剛剛提到協助委員的說明我們當然不希望把它限時在一個地方那未來也會鼓勵相關的各機關各的專業的人來幫忙所以這個是我們政府補助的相關的專業的單位來做處理所以這個是希望未來 |
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每五萬人都有一個營養師來服務。辛苦了。好,那個,我覺得行政院提的這個齁,比較寬廣,而且專業單位是比較,只要有授訓的話,你專職單位你設,你訂不完啦。而且會被人家攻擊說你怎麼訂那麼少。全國都早就在做的啊。 |
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第一段論述幾十年來就在做的啊你不能一下子就剝奪人家的一個那種工作嘛或者那個已經貢獻民眾那麼多的事情我是不曉得現在在社區上還有哪些在做這些工作啦但是他總是要有專業啦要尊重專業沒有專業大概也不變總是要說一堆訊嘛你看你不要前後矛盾嘛你後面都在寫 |
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在寫都要鼓勵大家全民哪個單位都要來做都要來參與你還用很多獎勵結果又如果又自己限制到誰不能做那把以前可以做的通通不能做我覺得這個法也不好因為這個法應該是更寬廣所以那個我 |
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當然吳委員然後陳委員他們想要把它釐清如果是寬的我們就支持啦因為我覺得我們就是要釐清專業單位跟專責單位的差異性而如果這邊是訂的是寬的我們是支持的專業單位應該是比較寬啦齁對不對齁好那如果這樣的話我們第六條就按照行政院版通過謝謝第七條 |
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第七條謝謝大家的關心我們只要是針對我們在執行營養的時候在中央會設立這個營養執行會那我們會邀請相關的專家團體那各位委員有幾個委員吼有一些包括委員的人數啊這個這個團體的代表啊等等都有提出不同的意見那也 |
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也有民眾黨所提的包括這個諮詢會的相關的一些任務等都有說的一些相關的規範那開會的次數都有一些明定所以呢我們是覺得說因為我們目前寫的也許稍微有點簡略我們參賽各委員的意見中整一下 |
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有關對象的部分是中央食品管理機關應邀請民間團體、專家、學者、食品業者、農產業者、消費者及兒少代表召開營養諮詢會。那營養諮詢會的政策調查研究 |
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是麻煩一下消費者及兒少代表召開營養諮詢會諮詢營養與健康飲食促進政策調查研究及其他有關事項其中任意性別委員之人數不得少於總數三分之一做以下之修正希望各位能夠支持 |
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那關於次數目前我們的委員會是每年召開兩次那請林委員發表意見一下對的因為你原來的這個條文寫得不夠清楚就是包括你剛剛現在修正的修正的應該要給我們那個文字內容因為我的修正東西大概也是朝著這方向就是把 |
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一些相關的代表性的團體或是一些專家還有一些各方的代表能夠納入這個會議裡面把它講得清楚一點所以你剛剛念的這個修正是你們現在修正出來的我們就會在這裡就按照這個 |
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議員主席 |
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我想說兩個部分一個部分是兒少代表部分我是支持啦因為我覺得還是跟大家的整體的營養觀念還有營養的推進其實有很大的息息的相關所以我們是支持吧願意來支持來兒少代表納入但是消費者代表這件事情想請教一下消費者代表的定義是什麼因為我想每一個人在這個社會上都會是一個消費者那怎麼樣叫做消費者代表聽起來非常的模糊和空泛 |
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所以想問一下說消費者代表因為他並不是一個族群他就是全台灣的人都是消費者代表這是一個很好的問題啦齁這個可能要解釋一下我們大概會朝向所謂的消費者代表的團體啦那由他們推薦消費者團體欸你不要衝到尾啦我們營養的營養那個阿姨要收消費者只是要賠你啊這個我想是談營養跟飲食跟價格沒有關係啦 |
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主席,這邊就是國建署現在把兒少代表好像各種代表對象群都進來,那老人要不要代表?就怪了嘿,對啊我覺得這個地方就是好像加很多代表都好像應該可是好像漏掉了一些會不會怪一漏萬啊? |
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這個齁其實應該行政部我們有很多很多類似的條文嘛,他們都是怎麼寫嘛。齁,那不要自己創造它很特別這樣也怪怪的齁,有沒有比較要去參照我們過去大家智慧的結晶出來的,那我們再做爭取大家的意見來做一點修改。阿不然你先想一下先想一下齁。 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 |
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委員有建議,可是你一掛上去就變成掛一漏萬的感覺啊。就,對吧?那不然就是維持延來,對吧?如果到底,哎呀行。 |
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對啦,你如果都要表列出來,正面表列出來怕會有怪異漏亂的問題所以我的修正動議其實是增加第二項就是說全項營養與健康飲食促進政策攸關國民生活中央主管機關應採行適當的公民參與 |
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以機智、廣詢意見納入營養諮詢會議討論。是不是用這樣比較...現在對林委員這個覺得怎麼樣?我是覺得也不錯啦。你們覺得這樣有沒有影響到你們的整個核心思想?我還是以你們的核心思想為重。委員都是盡量來幫你們滋潤得更好。 |
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這樣會影響嗎?因為看起來他這個寫比較讓你們不會影響到怪異樂患的感覺,他只是要多加強一些民眾的公民參與嘛。公民參與現在是所有政府裡面很重要的一環啦。可以嗎?不然叫林委員這樣可以嗎?給這張。這張喔,看看喔。 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具、「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案案 案。 |
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目前行政院都有開放政府也有眾開講的參與那這些建議都會到我們討論案裡面來講那要不要在這裡列我們沒有意見了那個委員這樣的建議其實對行政機關的執行面是沒有什麼特別的影響而已 |
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對啦沒有什麼特別影響搞不好有加分的效果啦齁那也不錯啦齁只是說有需要寫前項營養及健康那一句話嗎還是齁第一句話還是說直接中央執管應用採行那個適當公民有些事有些在條文裡面是沒有必要寫去解釋他的原因啦 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案。」吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案。」吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案。」吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案。」 |
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符合世界潮流的感覺,大家潮流的感覺啦齁。這樣可以嗎?保證?這樣好啦齁?沒有問題。好,那第七條就照委員林惠洲等三人修正...再修正?修正統一,修正統復。沒有啊,但是他跌估會賣啦,我發現沒需要這麼多啦。對啊,就是再修正統復。 |
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再修正通過修正同意修正通過謝謝林委員這麼卓越的見解我們的第一項裡面還有其中任一性別委員之人數這個要有修正加兩個委員加三個是委員之人數 |
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因為時任的關係我們不要再那個趕快打一下其中瑞麗姓北委員的人數齁還有下面增加這個齁所以我的我剛剛宣布的是什麼來 |
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沒有,再重新一次第七條,照行政院提案及委員林維哲等三人修正同意修正通過就按照這樣子好不好好,謝謝我們來看第八條嗎?第八條就是要加上那個剛剛吳委員提的那個嗎?好,第八條就照委員吳玉琴等 |
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委員吳玉琴等委員林時溫等時代力量黨團提案第6條他們提案的第6條通過這樣好不好好,這樣就在第8條加進去稍等一下好不好稍等一下部長來他應該是在第二章之前面嘛所以第8條應該是這樣然後才進到第二章現在要到第二章了這樣比較貴氣啦而且這個有先示作用啦 |
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那個現在這個已經第一張看起來蠻完整的啦感謝大家那第二張確保健康飲食這個大家沒有意見嗎那就通過這個叫章名嗎第二章的章名就是確保健康飲食好就通過第八條現在變成第九條了 |
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那個行政院把他第八條了吼來第九條來行政院沒有行政部門說明一下 |
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這一條只要是對於我們定期應該定期辦理營養的調查研究建制食品營養成分的資料庫那有關劉委員吳玉琴委員特別也說明說這個調查研究必須要委託這調查的狀況還有細節調查的結果必須要上網來公告公民眾來參來這個 |
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參與調查對象、項目、細節、行程等寫得非常非常詳細,非常謝謝委員的一些建議。民眾黨版本也列示這樣的情形,把相關的細節寫得很詳細,所以相關的委員都非常的盡心盡力為我們希望能夠把國民營養調查做得更好。所以我們是不是說,我們做了一個修正動議,希望能夠把 |
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定期辦理營養調查前面加了一個即發佈就是中央主管機關應定期辦理即發佈營養調查研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫那相關的立法說明的部分在促前行政院來做相關的調整文字可不可以 |
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這個林委員有提一個修正動議我這個第8條也是有增加一個第二項前項營養調查研究對象應包含植物性飲食我的意思就是說現在針對這種營養成分這些這個調查這些那其實現在這個素食者其實也蠻多的就是說 |
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他們的營養成分跟不是素食者所要飲食的這些項目品項都不一樣是不是要增加這一個部分我是提供這樣的建議 |
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因為這些都是要當作將來的一個指引嘛所以怎麼吃才能營養均衡但是素食者吃的跟我們一般吃的可能他的比如說他的這個蛋白質來源跟我們不一樣啊 |
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我們可能從魚啊、從肉這些取得蛋白質來那素食者他可能不是從這邊取得蛋白質來是不是有必要加這一部分這個提供參考請這個衛福部這邊做說明謝謝請說明一下謝謝林委員的建議其實跟您報告一下目前這個調查的內容我們並沒有排除這個食品飲食的調查已經包括在裡面了所以 |
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可以不寫,我們也會做這件事情。所以是不是前委員支持? |
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在第八條的部分就是我看到很多委員包括時代力量黨團都有特別提到我想大家有幾個疑慮就是在於調查的對象調查的內容還有調查誰來執行這個調查大家都很多很多的討論了那我也理解說現在我們在談營養及健康飲食促進法比較是一個上位的法案我們可能很難直接在這邊細項定到說應該要有內容但是不是能夠有一個比較通範的方式是比如說前項的這些資料庫以及研究調查方案應由中央主管 |
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機關認定之之類的方式來做處理因為我覺得大家的期待還是希望能夠比較具體的知道這個研究方案會涵蓋到哪些這些資料庫應該涵蓋哪些那有很多很多的細節必須要來做討論那不宜在現在直接在法條上面匡列進去的話是不是能夠有一個執法的概念能夠另外處理之這樣我覺得是比較完整性好王偉的意見行政部門覺得怎麼樣多多的寫一下那個 |
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應該不用寫出來啦由中央書館定制就好了 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 |
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前項食品營養成分資料庫相關規範及委託相關內容等等下我看一下應該是前項食品營養成分資料庫相關規範 |
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得委託有關機關學校或營養健康相關專業團體之規範由中央主管機關另訂之。應該是,我等會修正一下吼。是不是可以這樣寫。前線的營養調查研究及建置食品營養成分資料庫由中央主管訂之。相關規範。 |
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營養調查研究及建制食品營養成分資料庫等相關事項由中央主管定之。相關規範由中央主管定之。相關規範由主管機關定之喔? |
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應該就是把前項的那個部分啦,就是營養調查研究及建制食品營養成分資料庫。 |
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兩條到最後要不要通?中屬館應定期辦理營養調查研究及建設食品營養分支資料。這個定期發布嗎?其實委託機構要這樣寫 |
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由中央主管定資要不要拿掉?因為是在下面的那個對啦,那邊前面的那個拿掉全項食品營養資料庫不只,那個齁,全項不是,全項調查研究建置食品營養成分資料庫規範由中央主管定資 |
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好啊,研究上是這樣子啦,把它修字、文字好一點。要不要相關規範?全項調查研究建制食品營養成分資料庫等相關規範由中央主管機關定制,這樣好不好?等嘛,相關規範由中央主管定制嘛。 |
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規範是不是應該會有一個逗號比較好規範要一個逗號規範要一個逗號看不看定那個定是用安定的定定是用安定的定應該兩個是都可以 |
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來華貴說明一下華貴第二項的目的可能要先釐清一下想要訂定的是什麼樣子的規範如果是指第一項的那些內容原則上都是由中央主管機關在處理了所以那些規範本來就是主管機關自己可以做的不需要在第二項另外再授權訂一個什麼內容 |
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第一項已經中央書館機關在做的事情了嘛對不對?那我們會不會想補充什麼? |
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王委員不在我覺得我們不好意思因為我們就順著行政院的版本所以我們自己的版本其實都分兩條處理那剛剛如果在談如果這個營養的一個食品營養成分的一個分析都由中央自己定的那就沒有委外的問題而且他也是已經行之多年了吧對啊所以沒有在相關的這個還要委託民間剛剛那個王委員是 |
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議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
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我們看一下時代力量的版本啦齁,我是覺得一些聲音也不錯啊,並得委託有,你前面去做這個事情嘛齁,然後由委託有關機關、學校及營養或營養健康相關專業團體為之並得嘛,不是說叫你,這團反而你中央不用自己做 |
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你可以委託專業團體學校去做大學可以幫你做大學營養系什麼是不是這樣反而我覺得實在力量提案這個這個會比較忽悠大家的想法你看怎麼那個市長沒客氣喔你沒什麼想要跟我們說啊不然你現在在那裡在那裡點什麼點我現在不在那裡點什麼 |
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到底要訂什麼規範是什麼規範?這有什麼好規範的?就是在發布這個營養調查研究建制食品的那個資料庫啊?啊這個從我學術的立場我就覺得你可以去委託委託某一個專門的單位國務院也可以你也可以去委託 |
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福倫大學食品營養系、北伊營養健康系等你齁,去相關的專業團體去為之。這個應該是沒有什麼衝突吧。這是我的想法,抱歉。阿,這樣,這樣,你給我寫規範什麼訂資我才看,我看沒什麼意思啊。 |
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如果大家同意的話我們也覺得可行啦我唸一篇 中央執管機關應定期辦理及發布營養調查研究及建設食品營養成分資料庫並得委得有關機關學校 |
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或營養及健康相關專業團體為之。應該是很完整吧?可以,我們沒有意見。好啦,按照這樣通過,好不好?第8條,按照時代力量。莊敬誠委員莊敬誠等21人提案其中及時代力量黨團提案修正通過。好。 |
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只有第8條齁,來再來我只有第9條,來再來原來的第9條現在第10條這只要是中央政府對於這些營養基準的一個建議那必須要經過執行會的公告那也謝謝也謝謝大家對於這個關心齁那特別在 |
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吳玉琴委員所說明的他比較細節性的針對每日指南國民營養指標生命期的營養建立及國人膳食營養素參考涉及基準等。那這個 |
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寫的比較細項那蘇曉慧委員還有張一美委員還有陳建民委員等還有邱太文召委等他有特別提到這個對於急慢性病的對向上對於急慢性病的時候要 |
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建立這些營養的一個設計的一個基準跟指引那我們是這樣說明針對國民家家族的主責的業務主要是非傳染性疾病那這個急重症包括癌症任何一個糖尿病等等那在臨床上其實他有臨床上的指引 |
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所以這個狀況主管再去定這個可能跟臨床指引上有一些干擱而且相關的專業團體也是在執行這件事情在法令上我們認為說不需要再另定而且這一部法令只要是對前面的狀況而沒有特定的族群這一部分來特別規範所以是不是請委員能夠支持那我們先這樣的版本 |
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是這樣子啦 那個蘇委員跟林委員林委員都有寫氣候變遷及環境永續的一個修正動議啦 不曉得蘇委員你有什麼指導好 我想是這樣啦 我們主要這部法案我們這個法案的話其實等於是一個以政府的角度在告訴國人 |
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什麼樣的飲食是營養的健康的啊是一個建議的態度那我想是這樣隨著時代觀念改變那我們其實最近都在討論的很大一個課題就是永續嘛因為氣候變遷所以要環境永續要做更多的改變其實包括飲食是一個很重要的像素那這個剛剛在講說那這個飲食哇寫到說氣候變遷環境永續那跟飲食會有什麼關係其實第一探就是一個 |
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議員吳玉琴等16人擬具 |
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好,那個林委員有沒有,可以嗎?林委員怎麼樣?我的修正動議跟蘇委員的修正動議差不多的意思就是增加了這個第三項在我這邊是第三項就是針對氣候變遷跟環境永續要納入考量提出飲食建議這個在各國大概也都有這樣的立法的先例謝謝 |
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環境永續這個是一個 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具 |
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而且我也覺得說我們目前也有一個環境保護部那相關的規範裡面應該也會有相關的一些建議事項這下就是不錯啦 有符合世界潮流啦只是說在這個地方適不適當的問題 來 蘇委員 |
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我覺得是這樣,其實我本來就已經做了這個附帶決議就是有兩個附帶決議,我有附帶決議其實是在說中央主管機關我的想法是這樣啦,就是我稍微念一下我的這個附帶決議的部分那因為這個溫室氣體24%是來自農牧與排放顯示飲食行為也是造成氣候變遷的原因之一所以中央主管機關在訂的時候應該考慮這個部分 |
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好我本來是已經寫好了不過我覺得我剛剛對署長齁我是覺得做署長只有說到節能減碳講的一副這都只有跟環境部有關這個說法態度我比較是不能 |
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我覺得可以再精進一點啦因為人家現在低碳飲食這已經是一個常態一個很很流已經是很普遍popular的這樣子的用法了齁那這個我覺得署長應該是要跟上可能比較好而且飲食是造成這個甚至是推動整個碳排的一個起頭起源 |
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我覺得這其實我們在環境部的時候講也講更多啊那其實回到這裡來講我覺得一點都沒有偏差所以我可以接受還不進入法不進入法條的文字但是我覺得署長的觀念可能在說法上也許可以下次可以再調整一下署長是比較謙虛啦他是他想得比較多他是一個學問非常好的人那個有點謙虛齁 |
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那如果沒有寫在這邊你有什麼其他的第二套?那如果市委員跟林委員可以同意這樣用次貸決議的方式? |
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的話我們就這樣來處理,你看怎麼樣?好,可以,我們可以接支持院板啦。支持用附帶決議處理啦,可以啦。但是確實我要回應一下我們蘇委員剛剛講的。就是說你食物,這個你要吃哪一些食物? |
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這個跟探足機都很有關係啊比如說我們一直在強調這就是說在地在在地食食材為什麼要強調在地食材 |
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因為碳足跡才能縮短阿這個跟這個環境永續啦這些都有關聯所以不是沒有關聯所以用附帶決議來處理啦好我想這個非常重要齁把這個法帶向我們這個世界級的啦齁感謝兩位也提出來那我們就用附帶決議這個部分等一下會討論到附帶決議嘛齁那是不是我們在這個地方就用 |
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行政院板通過好不好好感謝主席剛剛有提到那個第10條吼我原本有把那個慢性疾病放進來那那個署長來辦公室溝通的時候期待是把它修正成那個非傳染性疾病啦就我加的他剛剛有一起就已經一起說明的對對對這個我本來想新增但是後來那個署長是覺得說直接在這裡把它加進去是是這個意思嗎還是 |
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他剛剛有說我這邊有新增第10條這邊他一直...不是啊就是第10條現在這第10條嘛對對對第10條裡面你要記一個非傳染病的那個嘛嘿對對對那個署長我覺得這個因為剛剛我的那個提案說明裡面大概也有特別提到這個可能有必要捏 |
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因為你說你沒要做重症的對啊我的第10條但是會傳染性的會感染性的對主席主席我們在26頁的我的第12條陳慶民的第10條林淑文的第12條都有提到這一塊所以是要加在那邊嗎還是因為他剛剛有先把我的這個加在這裡所以是要你其實這裡已經有寫了啊現在第10條中央書館計劃因應姓、北、年齡、懷孕及生產 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 |
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你營養你國民健康是這個主要是三位的法你要把我們現在主要的生活型態啊這些都很重要應該加進來如果委員同意是在第二款第三款齁中央主管機關應依第一項之基準並考量人民宗教信仰區域及文化之差異及 |
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非傳染性疾病現況提出相關飲食建議或指引。 |
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年齡齁,年齡有年齡層嘛齁,各個年齡層的營養阿法院當然特別關心這個很感謝啦齁但是有一些疾病的那個齁應該也在健康署的領域裡面啦齁像我是慢性病的,我是糖尿病的人,你還要跟我說我怎麼飲食我高血壓的人,我肥胖的人齁臨床指引都有我知道我知道,我是說這樣就不用寫 |
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因為針對特殊性啦,不同的特殊性你看這個其實我提的是議事公會前任會的版啦可以看一下他是寫性別、年齡、體重、急慢性、疾病、現況你不要用疾病,你用非傳染性、非感染性現在叫做非感染性、疾病、現況還有懷孕、生產 |
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我又給個偶像成長勒齁看來怎麼這樣好啦你偶像成長我我沒有我沒有特別用等嘛用等就好嘛即慢性不會會感染性這個齁你不寫喔?其實好像這樣子如果要不宣報好像邱偉仁的其實還是要完成齁對啊新年年齡體重即慢性懷孕現狀兒童的這個不要補貼 |
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因為陳建委員他蠻重視這個嘛回感染性疾病的一個飲食這個就是我們營養師在最營養師跟我們護理在營養在指導營養應該是最大宗的一個工作我們反而不寫去寫那種比較量比較少的啦 |
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當然還有一個思考就是說我這一個法其實出來只是想要定各年齡層的營養指引,那我沒話講。對不對,那我們不要去潛入也沒關係,但是如果你想這一個法出來還是可以多一點點做一點,阿不然你相關的法就沒有其他的法來做這件事情。你國家根本什麼非感染性飲食的指引,有沒有這種東西? |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健� |
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啊這一法有沒有牽涉到這個部分還是只我們只限於這我們各年齡層我們都跟他訂一個營養之營齁這是六歲到十二歲要吃什麼齁啊十二歲到十五歲要吃什麼齁這就年齡嘛性費啊女生這個時候生理期要特別關心吃什麼比較不會痛啊不要過好日子我都沒有意見或懷疑的時候齁但是難道沒有去touch到 |
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流極性就算了,感染性是其他的,一套慢性病的,健康署就在管理慢性病的啊,不是嗎?慢性病的管理,那其實是因為它是帶有一個疾病嘛,這疾病的類型第一個它多啦,第二個的話,它又可能有comorbidity的問題,就是說共病的問題。 |
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所以你在這裡寫會寫不完事實上現在執行是什麼就是在醫療的醫療端因為針對你有各種慢性病會給你飲食的建議所以剛剛講指引指的是臨床的指引臨床的營養指引所以這個可能我是建議不要寫會比較好不然的話事情會變成很複雜變成這邊的基準要變一大堆 |
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又列舉不完你要慢性病、急性病要不要一種慢性病、兩種慢性病的要不要又要分別去定 |
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會變成處理不完所以我是認為說這個可能在這邊是一個原則上因為要提的是基準嘛基準就是給一般的民眾去使用的至於有其他疾病的那應該就是在臨床上面有一些營養指引去去follow那這個就可以把它比較個別化去做處理 |
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13533.207 |
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所以謝謝部長啦,我想部長剛來嘛,總是要尊重他嘛。而且他見識廣博,業力豐富,智慧超人,所以那個他的話我都當為聖經在努力啦。那阿伯這段要寫嗎?那個趙金組長剛剛提的這個要不要在下面?就完全按照NR條文? |
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就可以處理。這樣齁?那個陳靜明委員有沒有稍微有點遺憾? |
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是真的有啦不過這個主席剛剛特別提到要尊重部長我是不堅持啦但是我是真的覺得說部長剛剛提到要列列不完其實世界衛生組織也有列出來四大NCD而已嘛所以如果是說這個我們也有有四大包括有這個癌症、糖尿病、心血管跟慢性呼吸道疾病這WHO列的四大這個不錯啊對啊啊所以也不會列不完啦我的意思是這樣就是說有符合國際趨勢啊 |
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主席我們剛剛其實在談的陳教授教我一下齁那四個不錯以後教我一下齁主席剛剛其實我們在談的是說要不要把非傳染性疾病放到第九條來那其實我們的提案是在後面有專則一條所以還要做這樣的選擇對我們後我跟陳靜敏的提案都在後面專門一條對所以我們剛剛的決定是說要不要放在這一條嘛啊不放也要再討論說那要不要專另一條 |
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要專門一條?我們的提案還沒到還沒處理阿因為我26月裡面對阿所以所以我們要再我們要確認一下等一下我們我看一下26條我們26月的我的版本的第12條陳金敏的第10條林淑溫的第12條陳培宇的第11條欸這要一起討論喔不然再一個要在這裡處理還是要在這裡整理整理 |
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我等一下又碰到一個要討論喔。二十六月喔。我們這條討論完我們休息十分鐘齁。大家吃一些東西。我們盡量,盡量把握時間齁。我們這個都營養過剩。吃這麼久,吃這麼久一定是營養過剩的。 |
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我感覺說行政部門先考量齁你等一下再考量到後面26位這個第12條第10條這個部分齁如果你覺得都不需要那統統不需要那如果需要的話你就要考慮要放在這裡獨立一條還是說在這邊就可以把它處理進去會比較不用再一直增加那麼多條齁你給你考慮幾分鐘 |
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行政部門回應一下你口裡 |
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覺得通通不需要還是要留在後面還是這裡來加進去有幾個選擇嗎?這一個部分其實是這樣子以吳委員的第12條為例 |
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因為他要求的是中央主管機關去定這個指引基本上定指引是可行但是是不是由中央主管去定這會有一些要去思考的因為在食物上面的運作的話 |
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各個醫療院所就是說這一個醫療人員包括醫師、營養師各個醫療人員會要去針對這些病人去做個別化的處理那你現在要把他拉到變成說做一個指引出來的話 |
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那有時候會碰到一些問題這些問題就是說我如果發了這個指引但是這個病人的狀況不是那麼單純比方說剛剛提到的糖尿病那糖尿病我們如果訂了一個糖尿病病人的飲食的指引那對一般的糖尿病病人都OK但是如果他糖尿病又同時又有癌症 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案案 案件 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案件 |
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那如果是由中央主管機關去定的話,它就會變成一個類似法規的地位。阿蘇阿賓熱區約束到這一個我們的醫療從業人員他的 |
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根據他們的學歷他們的病人的狀況去做彈性化處理的困境所以我覺得說這個部分的話可能還是不要直接用這樣子的法條文字去做處理會比較好 |
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讓這個醫療的食物上面能夠有比較彈性可以去做處理那通常這類的指引通常都會是在各種醫學會裡面他們會去做一些該案出來這個該案出來之後的話他都會有一些保留 |
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就是說如果有其他公病的時候,那要讓這個醫療人員能夠去做一些調整。這樣子似乎是比較符合時機啦。放在法律的條文恐怕會比較不是那麼好。我們台灣的醫療水準很高啦,所以我想剛剛部長講的那些早就在做了。 |
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不管是各種,像我三十人來,常常你問民眾,你這變什麼?這變什麼?搞不好我也不會贏,因為毛病好多那你乾脆找你那位周醫師好好的看一下就對了,就是這樣一句話那這個跟這個跟事不曉得法,其實其實是沒有什麼太大,那個一定 |
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說就不能去寫啦齁,啊,我是覺得這樣啦齁,但是沒關係啦,看,看啦,也不要在這個地方delay太久嘛,如果說未來後面,我想該做的我們都會做,國家都已經在做啦齁,只是說這個法,就主責也不要跑掉太多啦齁。好啦,這樣我看這樣啦,不然就叫補地方議事啦,齁,啊不然有什麼要補充的,我們來補充這樣好了,好不好,齁。 |
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這樣就是說第一就是剛才這個第9條就是我們現在的第10條那個就按照行政院版通過然後再來第10條委員吳玉琴第12條這個部分請你們第12條這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
我們就列為以後的努力的方向,努力的為人民健康的方向,這次就先不要來採,先不用採用了。好,那就是委員吳玉琴16人提案的第12條,還有陳慶民委員第18條、第10條。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
還有委員林淑芬第19條,不,資格人第12條,委員陳伯儀16人提案的第11條,後面還有喔?後面是說明,就先不理財納啦。感謝大家智慧的提出建議,你們的提出建議都對未來有 |
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| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
有啟發的功能,非常感謝。那原來的第10條現在11條了嘛,對不對?主席,不是要休息嗎?對,對,對,休息十分鐘。上廁所跟吃飯。主席,現在休息前我修正一下或是提醒一下,第8條的這個剛剛的文字裡面,命德委託有關機關,可能要加一個go,機關go,文字上這樣才會比較多元。 |
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嘿,就是我們剛剛有修正文字嘛齁,並得委託有關機關瓜福購學校或營養及健康相關專業團體為之。齁,這個,齁,對,這樣子才,文字才會完整。週圓。現在第9條。購齁,購。好,那就按照這樣齁,修正通過齁。購。好,休息10分鐘。我們吃飯上廁所快一點齁。 |
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二、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨員吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 兩、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨員吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 兩、繼續審查台灣民眾黨員吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 兩、繼續審查台灣民眾黨員吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 兩、繼續審查台灣民眾黨員吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草 |
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說明一下好謝謝吼這個第有關我們第11原來第10條現在第11條吼那謝謝我們民眾黨委員提提出來政府機關應該支持跟協助這些辦理食物營養的法人等等還有呢這個林瑞周委員提出來政府機關夠應依據國人極慢性營養相關疾病性或定點營養及疾病的飲食指南吼 |
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還有陳建民委員特別提到政府應該考慮到特別弱勢家庭的高營養風險族群偏鄉離島族群及極慢性相關的這些疾病的需求跟委員做說明第一個就是說我們對 |
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極慢性病的部分就剛剛已經討論過了希望委員能夠支持行政院的幫忙感謝委員支持那對於這些高風險或偏鄉的話其實我們現在做的社區營養中心還有ICOP其實就在評估這些民眾他到底對營養的狀況如何有沒有有沒有這個缺乏哪一些營養的部分就是要營養來介入相關的管理 |
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那在偏鄉的話那麼偏鄉的話這裡的話那個弱勢環體的話我們在這個評估以後我們也會特別亦照顧這也是我們社區營養推廣中心最主要的一個工作項目所以還是建立我們維持行政案的版本謝謝好 有沒有意見有 有意見 抱歉因為我這邊齁其實非常認同署長這邊把偏鄉阿這邊放進來 |
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但是我還加了一個特別脆弱家庭的高營養風險族群那為什麼會把它加進來其實舉例來說就前陣子我們辦公室配合早產兒基金會有舉辦相關的那個記者會其實他們就特別提到這一些脆弱家庭譬如說早產兒他就是有高營養風險的族群你知道他的母乳添加劑一盒就要兩千塊 |
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所以每個月啊這些的花費對這些家庭來說都非常的高啦所以為什麼我會把這一個脆弱家庭的高營養風險族群加進來原因在這裡以上 |
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我們陳建民委員悲天憐人啦齁很關心這個早餐了齁那個你覺得有沒有包括在裡面的來 市長 |
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經過如果我們評估論呢他是我們的風險族群我們當然會特別去介入啦吼那對於剛剛提到特別他有沒有營養品這個我們有委託國會在調查對於早產兒那過程中那相關的一些需求不只是營養的部分那這個部長有指示目前請國會在瞭解這件事情原來部長早就有杯天餅人的吼您估計到那個吼 |
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看起來有包括的話,是不是我們還是尊重行政院反好了啦齁?反正已經有在做了,好不好?還少一個人啦,非常少一個委員那第11條就先,先有一個共識齁,等一下委員過來再通過好了齁?感謝大家齁?好,接下來那個,換到我們第30頁的,第11條現在12條齁? |
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第11條最主要就是在說明我們第8條所做的結果那如果發現這個人民缺乏某一些特定的營養素的時候那或者是有營養不良之時那我們會來建立提出來建立鼓勵這些業者,數位業者也好,販售業者也好那在製造過程的時候必須要把這個營養素添加進去 |
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所以我們也謝謝我們劉委員還有各個委員包括民眾黨黨團還有石橋林委員還有楊前副委員、張一鳴委員、邱泰文委員特別有提還有我們陳建民委員也特別提到林書煥委員等他最主要是說這些 |
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這些調查營養素除了缺乏以外還會有危害顯有危害健康之儀之食得公告該營養成分那我想我們在調查如果這是不足的時候或者是不良之儀食我們就會來公告了也會鼓勵這些業者來做相關的一些添加來提供給民眾來購買最典型的大概就是點過去我們調查裡面就發現缺點的狀況 |
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那就希望能夠業者能夠再輸天天加點吼那這類似像缺火的時候我們就會讓這些牙膏啊牙膏加在那個火的添加劑裡面所以我想這個部分本來就有這樣的鼓勵性質吼所以是不是建議因為相關的添加物的成分必須要回到添加物的食品管理是 |
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是不是衛生安全管理法他的相關的添加的管理機制所以我們不建立在這裡在政內所以是不是請委員能夠支持我們行政院的版本 |
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好,署長說得很詳盡了啦吼,那是不是我們就尊重行政院的版本,第12條講到行政本。來,薇恩。是,我們現在在討論行政院的第11條嘛吼,我們順下來,對,11條嘛吼,因為前面還有蘇巧慧的兩個條文吼,好等一下,那沒關係我們先進入到這個行政院的11條吼, |
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我的版本當然國電署提到的就是有營養不良之餘我也支持因為我們寫的是有危害健康之餘好像感覺這個嚴重性要高 |
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那也有一定的可能在認定上有一些的他的難度那我的版本裡面也談到說指定食品的製造業者跟這個輸入業者的部分那行政部門也來說明這些都在食安法有相關的規範所以我們就回到食安法的相關規範我也支持所以對行政院的這個版本我是支持的以上 |
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好,謝謝。我們就按照行政院版通過。黃旭安委員來了。救星救星。民主救星。剛剛要通過哪一條?原來的第11條我們就按照行政院版通過。第12條就按照行政院版通過。然後我們追過來26月的蘇巧慧委員等23人的第13條。還有什麼?後面第14條。 |
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我們就為財難感謝提供這麼啟發性的建議我們再來思考一下有關我們四條委員23人的提案新章這一條條文第三章張銘沒問題通過第12條現在是13條了 |
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中間還有中間還有中間有我們的提案那要不要採納主席我們那個提案這個是有關團善的部分他已經在學校衛生法的23條有明定了啦所以我們這邊不堅持好啦既然吳大姐這樣講我全部就是我對跟著不用啦好那我們就吳玉琴委員的16檔還有第4條還有台灣民眾黨的第20條 |
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委員市長歐斯山人第16條、委員邱太人19人第13條、委員林思文19人第15條、委員專政省21人第18條,我們就不予採納。接下來我們進到第13條。 |
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第13條就是我們政府機關被教輔導開發業者產製食品或製造飲食的時候應納入這些考慮那也非常謝謝我們相關委員包括劉建國委員吳玉琴委員還有民眾黨所提的那包括促進產業鏈還有這個餐飲業者開發的時候 |
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考量到人民的這些健康飲食的一個製作。所以呢我是覺得說我們在這裡面來講那也非常謝謝也希望大家能夠支持行政院的版本但是現在也認為說政府在輔導 |
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食品業者那是不是在食品的後面加一個餐飲業者因為他們餐飲也是製造提供給我們民眾的也謝謝委員的一個建立這樣食物比較完整除了食品的製造者那是不是還敗掛餐飲業者 |
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食品、豆點、餐飲業者、燉點。 |
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主席好,小鼠這邊補充說明一下就是有關於那個食品業者因為在食安法裡面的話那個食品業者其實就已經包含了製造業跟餐飲業的部分所以是不是可以請委員支持這個行政院版本這個小鼠的解釋就是說食品業者已經涵蓋在餐飲業者在裡面所以不用再另列 |
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好,感謝食藥署的專業的意見齁那我們就第13條都按照行政院版通過謝謝大家的指導齁那接下來欸?怎麼沒看?喔找四條?36月36月先解決,來36月齁欸?等一下現在是 |
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等一等,再多一條,再加一條。好,那我們這些就都不用了啦。好,那委員四條會二十三人的第十九條,委員四條會二十三人的第二十條,委員四條會二十三人的第二十一條,邱太偉委員的第十九人的第十七條就不予採納。還有後面,下面還有委員四條會二十三人的第二十二條,還有委員 |
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委員吳玉琴等16人提案第18條,這些都不予承納。接下來我們進到第14條。 |
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第14條那各位委員提了我們就有關中央資本機關或者是目的社會資本機關希望將營養及健康飲食教育納入下列的從來人臉之在職訓練或者是積極教育的課程那分為 |
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也謝謝大家的建議民眾黨團提議是把第一項所有的議事人力改成議事人員蘇曉媛也建議第一項改成議事人員還有委員是贊助一部分是刪除 |
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剛剛我們這個稍微也提了修正動議修正動議的主要的內容要不要念一遍修正動議的內容就是希望說中央主管機關以中央目的事業主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育納入下列 |
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下列人員之在職訓練或繼續教育課程我唸好了我唸因為你可能還沒吃飯多喝一點咖啡那第13條中央主管機關以中央目的事業主管機關就沒變嘛因為本來是本來是什麼 |
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推行並鼓勵推行並鼓勵營養及健康飲食教育納入下列人員在職訓練或繼續教育課程那原來其實其實如果以後面的說明羅馬這個營養先年其實他只要是希望我們只要有照顧真的是第一線有照顧到接觸到民眾的我們就 |
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大家懂得怎麼樣去做一個營養的教育、健康的促進那這個部分非常好那我們的國電署也把這個精神拿過來那當然包括公衛師本來看起來就是在直接在第一線做這件事情那3、4、5、6、7就是在營養羅馬先的營養裡面要求的人那現在健康署是把醫事人員進來一起共襄盛舉那現在是這樣子 |
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最好是後來我們是覺得說因為醫師那些人服務太廣了你說要病理科的醫師他也從來不接觸病人啊或是先科的醫師你要他去做一個會去上這些課來促進營養的會比較比較沒尊重啦吼啊所以有時候這段時間感謝國健署跟我們相關的大家討論吼那到原來我們是希望把整個拿掉啦但是後來 |
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尊重這個共襄盛舉所以就寫一個從事上面相關工作之醫事人員比較不會把醫事人員整一棚都用下去那可能有的人根本沒有去接觸到這個的話沒有去接觸到這個健康飲食營養這個部分所以就是我們的修正東西就是從事相關工作之醫事人員其他就是照原來後來的修正的狀況報告完畢這樣署長可以嗎? |
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那先說不能尊重我們同意。那個主席對我剛剛覺得主席剛剛解釋的非常有道理齁但是以我們現在醫事人員的積蓄教育辦法裡面其實我們只能列出來說欸我只規範幾年幾學分就好那一定是相關從業人員你自己會去選擇你覺得適合的嘛 |
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所以我覺得特別要提前面要寫說從事相關之醫事人員這樣有點怪那像公衛公共衛生師也不一定他就是做營養相關的嘛所以我覺得只要把醫事人員列出來就好了有需要再寫從事相關工作因為有些醫事人說實在的啦齁你如果現在尊重醫師齁百年來就是帶著團隊大家一直在衝我想大家看這個歷史 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案 吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案 案 |
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老師講你要麻糊去做這些你要繼續交易要加上這個不是不是他們就吐血了嗎沒有啦他其實就是我們現在的辦法就只規定說幾年幾學分一定要而已啊我們也沒有規定你一定要包括什麼內容啊所以我就在想說你下去就會被規定了啦這裡是寫應推行並鼓勵啊應推行並鼓勵 |
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我只是覺得這樣好像反而法上面有沒有話舌天竺啊因為就是只要有意識人員反正我就有列出來你有相關工作你自己就會去選擇跟這個有相關的來上啊繼續教育學生不是就是這樣就是在做這件事情的啊你通通把它包圍下去對老實講對意識人員是不尊重的啊因為這個下去就會訂後面的一些規定啊 |
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對阿譬如說像燕光師,燕光師有阿譬如說燕光師我們會跟他講說你要加葉酸阿你要吃什麼東西,這個就是有嘛 |
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月光師可以教人家加葉酸嗎?不是啦!現在就是說我們一天到晚連廣告也跟人家講說你要補充嘛!沒有教啦!現在是說我們現在連廣告也都在說欸應該要補充嘛!對不對!我相信這樣子有算侵權嗎?月光師如果再配眼鏡的跟他講說欸小孩要多吃葉酸就侵權嘛!來來我們是不是解釋一下這樣有侵權嗎? |
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欸基本上如果他的這個指導牽涉到跟醫療業務有關係的那基本上就是仍然是有診斷治療的問題那就要有醫師來提出這個建議有點難以認定齁不好認定這個這個 |
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兒子要出門的時候媽媽叫他說你要吃一顆維他命啊在出門這樣子如果我們人類的智慧沒有辦法去分辨這個那也很奇怪啊對不對當然要分辨啊很難去定義啊 |
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我可以再釐清因為我們原來行政院的版本是應將營養及健康飲食教育要列入繼續教育這個是一個強制性也就是說未來如果我們照行政院版本通過就是列舉了這些人全部他的繼續教育通通要列營養的教育但是如果現在以召委修訂之後他是應推行並鼓勵他比較軟性 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具 |
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需不需要再把前面從事相關工作是醫事人員還是說醫事人員就涵蓋就是鼓勵嘛我的概念如果召委修完之後是因鼓勵的概念是軟性的他比較不是說強制一定要全部都要放進去確實如果是像行政院的版本的話確實是會讓各專業都覺得壓力好大很硬全部都要列入規範要繼續交易我的理解有沒有錯可能要請 |
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行政部門在或法規的部門幫我們解釋一下好嗎你完全沒有相關的意識人員應該這樣說啦稍微說明一下下我們是應推行並鼓勵這個站在主管機關的立場當然是鼓勵所有因為這個法是基本法所以希望前面都能夠受相關的健康飲食推動的這樣一個姿勢 |
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那至於說相關的團體就是次團體他會不會把他列入如果以這個法他是他要列入我們是無權干涉啦所以召委會考慮這個也是有他的想法因為醫事團體可能這個醫事公會可能或者是家庭醫學會或者哪個學會他就把他列進去或者是這個 |
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哪一個協會他就把他列到說他要上幾個小時的營養協會呢?啊這個就我們就在主管機關來講因為我們寫的是應推行並鼓勵嘛所以他列入我也是鼓勵他但是他就會限制到職業的人員的問題所以稍微提考兩個是這個部分啦也跟委員說明一下只要你是基層醫師你們有在做糖尿病的教學那當然就是相關啊 |
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對不對?你要那個麻醉醫師那病理科醫師麻醉醫師跟營養有點關係啦齁病理科醫師、放射線科醫師以後來做這種訓練當然你現在在鼓勵我是覺得就很清楚的 |
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我們要的因為這是專業剛剛署長講的全民是在後面都有鼓勵一些全民要那個在後面自然就會有全民運動但是這個是在講專業的人員嘛其實根本原來在羅馬先年也沒有特別去要求這些他是跟第一線有跟病人接觸的人跟民眾接觸的人我們要幫他訓練有這種技能 |
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是這種意思嘛所以我們在這樣尊者之下就是說好吧你要寫就寫進去啊尊重一下可能醫療他的一個一個一個或複雜性跟他的一個他的專業是很多的那這個部分大概有80%的醫療專業的人是還是會從事相關的一些一些相關的一些的工作啦 |
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所以大概大概這個部分是在把宣言跟我們實際上大家共同來做這個做一個中間啊尊重醫療人員吼的一個一個一個著重吶應該也不損不損害什麼那個啊你你你那個難道你你沒有不是不是在從事 |
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不是在從事那個的護理人員就不能去接受訓練,也沒有啊。你要去訓練大家翻領啊。但是,其實你看齁,這是一規定專業的事情啦。不是專業,全民運動啦。啊他的重點是在於偷獄啦齁。其實他的教保人員,老實講,跟這個寫在一起,這樣拍寫就怪怪啦,你知道嗎?齁,你現在沒稍微再把那個分開一點,我就對醫師太不尊重了啦。 |
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好不好,這已經抱歉,這已經歸咎很久了,已經從原來想要拿掉然後再去研究然後到最後用這樣大家我們最近幾天重要的一些跟專家跟醫界的專家大家討論的一個結果如果沒有影響到大家的那個要發展的就請尊重這樣的建議好不好拜託一下 |
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這樣這第幾條?要不然第14條就照委員邱太安等3人修正動議,第13條通過。好,接下來。好,接下來是第15條,有關這個 |
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鼓勵所有相關的機關公司在辦理活動的時候要採購的禮品先到必須要納入這些健康飲食的一些考量也謝謝劉建國委員吳玉琴委員還有民眾黨版本提案那麼也謝謝林委員提相關所提的陳建委員所提的還有林書恩委員所提的 |
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他們都希望說明定這些要用公務預算來自應那我是覺得說因為這些相關團體不管他的監會如果去爭取那是不是一定要用公務預算都不能用其他監會的來源是不是有所限收所以是不是建議能夠以行政院版本來通過好 如果沒有意見我們就按行政院版通過第四條 第16條 |
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第16條主管機關得獎勵政府、機關、醫療機構、福利機構等相關就是辦理獎勵這個辦理健康飲食的一個環境那這些獎勵的對象、條件、方式、申請的程序、審查及其他相關事項的辦法由中央主管來定那非常謝謝我們各位委員也有一些意見 |
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特別民眾黨提出來說政府機關在辦理這些的時候特別要針對加為一個合作社私人企業還有社區公使廚房及舒適友善環境還有陳北委員特別提出社區整體 |
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整體的照護服務體系各單位還有公司法人還有時代力量所提的包括早期療癒機構安置及教養機構矯正機關等等那其實我們在這一條裡面來講這些機關並沒有說排除這些相關的所以也希望說大家能夠實施以前這樣的版本來通過好第16條如果沒有 |
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特別意見我們就按行政院版通過。第17條。第17條就是有關這些弱勢的兒童特別是所以要足以希望能夠父母進入的還有其 |
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其他實際在照顧兒童及少年之人應該要提供符合兒童及少年營養的需求之飲食。那也非常謝謝我們這個蘇喬威委員還有林恩維州委員等相關提案那經過說明以後也謝謝他們的支持能夠以行政院的版本來通過。好第17條我們就按行政院版通過那這邊要不要練一下不用齁不用齁好 |
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就不用了吼?好,那就第18條 |
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第18條就是有關幼兒園高級中等以下學校供受飲品及典型嬰醫幼兒教育及照顧法、學校衛生法及其相關法令供應原則或範圍辦理那也謝謝各位委員的提案那特別是實在理論有提到說供受飲品的部分也要考量進去那其實這個都已經在相關的規範了所以感謝委員的支持那以前這樣版本通過 |
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好,謝謝。好,如果沒有意見我們就第18條端的行政院版通過然後再來那54頁的台灣民眾版黨團提案第19條委員宣選會第23人提案第45條委員前輩16人提案第14條就不予採納。然後接下來第4章 |
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第三張名:「營養及健康飲食教育。」那謝謝各位委員都以前那反正一樣。接下來第19條。那委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第24條。委員陳培宇等16人提案第21條。還有委員蘇曉慧等23人提案第25條就不予採納。那接下來第19條。 |
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請說明第19條那麼就是只要說應對主管機關及各級目的稅主來應該鼓勵相關的政府機關構或者醫療機構等等那必須要辦理對員工辦理營養及健康飲食的教育那而且對病得開放給民眾來自參與那這個是鼓勵大家 |
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那也謝謝我們相關委員包括劉建國吳玉琴委員還有民眾黨團的提案那麼我們經過溝通大家對於這個涵蓋的情況板裡面那也謝謝陳培宜委員抓手提裡面必須要包括社區整體 |
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照顧服務體系各單位那跟村長溝通的話因為社會經濟有大有小有人甚至於是個人的單位如果要納入可能有一些困難所以我們是不是謝謝希望大家能夠支持行政院的版本好19條如果沒有意見的人就按行政院版本通過第20條 |
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第二十條就是在希望能夠主管機關要鼓勵這些醫療機構等相關機構來辦理這個進行這些營養與健康飲食教育所以這裡面他寫特別感謝劉建國委員還有吳玉琴委員民眾黨等還有蘇喬惠委員林惠珠委員等 |
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包括楊瓊英委員、張一鳴委員、邱太元委員、陳建元委員、蔡耀臣等都提出相關修正文字特別說明在各級農業主管機關應鼓勵 |
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農林移牧業者、節育食品業者、政府機關學校幼兒園法人或團體推動相關營養及健康教育。那因為考量到當初在立法的時候草擬立法案的時候食農教育法還沒有通過所以相關的食農教育的部分那已經在食農教育法裡面已經有規定是不是請求各位能夠同意行政院的版本的涵蓋內容來通過謝謝 |
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第二十條嗎?第二十條就按行政院版通過第二十一條來請說明二十二條了 |
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吳玉琴等16人擬具〈營養及健康飲食促進法草案案〉案 |
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我拿來第20條,現在21條是,好,這個剛剛我已經念過了我已經念過了,就是因為牽扯到食農教育法已經規劃了剛剛署長確實講太快了,我們的版本裡面在原來行政院版20條,現在21條我們對食農教育的部分其實有加進去,但因為食農教育法已經通過了,所以我覺得我們這邊就不堅持 |
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第二項的這些說法。所以第21條就按行政院法通過。接下來?25條我們也不堅持,都在食農教育法裡面有規範的。感謝吳大姐。委員吳玉琴等16人提案第25條。委員林思文等16人提案第25條。委員陳培宇等16人提案第28條,我們就不採納。 |
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第二十二條第二十二條就是有原來行政院版的第二十一條那中央主管機關與中央目的社會主管機關應將營養及健康飲食教育列入下列政府機關構學校幼兒園民間機構 |
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獲法人之評鑑或輔導項目那下列項目那謝謝我們各個委員所提的版本吼那我們也經過討論啦也跟委員之間吼那委員有提出修正動議那是不是依委員的修正動議來通過好修正動議就是評鑑拿掉嘛吼評鑑或拿掉嘛對不對 |
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好那第21條就是第22條就按照委員邱太人等3人委員吳玉琴等3人修正動議第21條通過欸對不起我想講話欸因為一直在講那個我提示把醫療機構改成醫事機構啦主要是因為現在在承辦的單位譬如說我們現在就有社區營養推廣中心那社區營養推廣中心現在的確是在衛生所的可是未來可能就像剛剛那個署長提到的未來要加緊要加倍計劃 |
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所以它不屬於醫療機構吧所以在這樣的情況之下你特別只寫醫療機構社區營養推廣中心這些因為本來是說如果把它放入評鑑的話會那個會很麻煩但是我們現在已經把評鑑拿到了那因為譬如說ICOP它也會委託很多的醫事機構來處理啊所以我覺得放醫事機構可能會比較完整而不是醫療機構 |
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因為評鑑已經拿掉了嘛我是覺得是這樣醫事機構的範圍比較大醫事機構的範圍比較大醫療機構的範圍比較小但是因為我們現在主要我們要推廣這個教育嘛譬如說你也是委託ICOP是所有的醫事機構都可以承辦嘛所以是不是就改成醫事機構醫事機構就包括護理機構那護理機構就可以拿掉了對不對 |
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對,只要意識機構、護理機構就可以拿掉,沒問題啊。沒有問題啊。意識機構非常的廣啊。 |
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醫事機構還有報關啊,所以不要我們一個人都扣進去是主席補充說明一下一般在醫政管理上醫事機構就會包含包含我們這些檢驗所、驗光所、職能治療所等等物理治療所全部都會被解釋為包含對他定義上就是醫事機構之一對現在又不是民間 |
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要簽名運動也不用簽名運動到這種地步啦齁。齁。齁。齁。齁。齁。齁。齁。齁。 |
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對啦我知道啊但是這是你的想法但是我有時候我們沒帶沒資料撿進去那現在主要因為本來是現在是主要是評鑑會評鑑的話就會很廣那現在是輔導的話就是說如果我們有我們如果有承辦他的業務的話我們的中央主管機關是不是就應該要有輔導或者是訪查這個部分 |
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主席我持平的說一下好了因為我們原來對於評鑑放進去會覺得匡好多的這些機構單位都要把它列為評鑑我覺得這個是真的會造成大家非常多的困擾因為各個機構的評鑑都已經百項以上的評鑑指標了然後我們在這個立法上面又把它列入評鑑的項目的話我覺得這就會困擾 |
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那我是覺得現在改成輔導大家有共識喔那個評鑑拿掉改成輔導項目那我是覺得是不是要把它擴大到所有的醫事團體都進來醫事機構都進來我覺得是不是一樣有那個疑慮可能主席也有那個疑慮說全部都要進來嗎要那麼廣因為其實醫事機構是 |
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議事機構是我們下一步吧 |
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吳玉琴來說明一下如果大家對於這樣怕怪異若萬又怕那邊沒有是不是可以建議一下比照我們10天以後的修正啦從事相關工作之機構之意思機構要不然就沒那個 |
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對,我是同意的,主要是因為我們現在iCOBE真的是廣為推廣嘛,所以在這樣的情況之下是有很多醫事機構從事相關的營養推廣,就需要被接受輔導,我覺得是同意的。好啦,很有智慧齁,看起來很有智慧的感覺。這個都跟水部長學習的齁。 |
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那個然後從事相關工作是醫事機構就不會包山包海有時候你去找到別人的薪酬保養那個我每天在做就盡量不要去壓到人家但是我說來喔來喔 都來都來我幫你輔導那種感覺也不太爽那所以但是你從事相關工作你的確就要我們來互相 |
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福島一下這樣子齁,這看起來看起來第22條這樣改,大家都同意啦齁?行政院同意,沒有,那個省單位同意,OK?好,那就改從事相關工作室一事即可。那我們第22條就按照委員邱大仁等3人委員吳玉琴等3人修正通過,第21條修正通過。 |
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主席這個文字法制單位協助看一下從事相關工作之一事機構是不是也涵蓋了社福機構就前面都有個從事相關的概念之 |
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還是要把社會福利機構、廠商機構然後及從事相關工作之一式機構?法治單位那個文字對啦,你要確認一下,因為這樣好像是是不是也是從事相關工作的社福不是,還是全部的社福應該頓點在那裡就 |
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主席,主席建議如果避免誤解的話可以把社會福利機構跟長照另列一款,就是款次第一這樣。社會福利機構、長照機構及從事相關工作之一事機構。欸這招勁討價真好喔。莫怪他數學一層天才。 |
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你這樣寫法也是可以啊,不過我剛剛的建議是希望另列一款可能比較清楚。另列一款?好啦好啦,我們聽法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律 |
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長期照顧服務機構叫做這樣吼?好!這樣可以吼?那就修正通過,再修正通過。好!好!再來23條 |
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謝謝二十三條只要是對於這些健康飲食做不實傳播還有健康飲食做不實傳播謝謝我們劉建國委員吳玉琴委員還有民眾黨委員還有我們蘇喬委員林惟洲委員 |
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等相關委員所提的那內容可能大家都為了希望能夠寫得更完整齁但是我們看完了以後覺得大家意向都一樣那也都涵蓋在行政院的這樣的草擬的文字裡面都能夠來執行了所以是不是可以建立以行政院的版本來通過好第13條如果委員沒有意見我們就按行政院版通過 |
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五、繼續審查五、繼續審查五、繼續審查第24條 |
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第24條違反前項第一項規定傳播不實質營養或健康飲食消息有影響人民健康之餘者直轄市及縣市主管機關應令其限期改正藉其為改正者處薪台幣3萬元以上30萬元以下的罰款並得按照處罰至改正為止那謝謝我們 |
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各委員提出來那有關大概都以行政案的版本類似那時候的民眾黨提議是5萬元以上、30萬元以下那楊潔篪委員也是提議為5萬元以上、30萬元以下那陳建民委員是提5萬元以上、35萬元以下那莊建成委員是處30萬元以下花還 |
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那因為我們參考的是食安法它的最低罰則大概都是3萬元起跳所以我們才訂行政院版本才訂3萬那避免法令上過言過言的部分希望委員能夠支持行政院的版本看起來就是法案吼這是溫暖的法案吼促進健康飲食促進法案不要法案出來大家聽了就陰陽不良吼食不下焉也不好吼那看起來醫師跟莊敬誠是比較沒錢吼所以這是3萬塊吼 |
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條文的部分我沒什麼意見但是很想問問食藥署啦因為我們這個部分有參考食藥署的這個食安法 |
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好46條之一嘛吼那而是要數這個這個呃散播有關食安遙遠不實吼我們我們可能更輕微的狀況那請問有案例嗎那我們執行的情形 |
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我當然也擔心我們這個條文未來法則在落實上面會不會有一些困難請說明一下食藥署食藥署說明跟委員報告因為食安法的46條之一它是散播有關食品安全的謠言或是不實訊息它必須要逐聲損害於公眾或他人者然後是處三年以下有歧途刑拘役或一百萬元以下的罰金所以基本上它是一個刑罰的部分 |
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那到目前為止,沒有相關的案例。以上。好,謝謝吳委員的詢問。第24條按照行政院版通過。那接下來?這邊嗎?這邊嗎?對,這邊都是到這邊。喔!我一間店,我一間店。委員劉建國等18人,第24條。委員吳琴16人,提案第28條。台灣民眾黨提案第27條。委員林惠洲等17人,第24條。委員王雄雄17人,提案第24條。 |
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委員邱太仁19人提案22條,委員邢正明等18人提案第25條,委員林淑芸19人提案第28條,不予採納。好,我們進到第6章的章名 |
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第六章,負責。謝謝各位所提的,就跟行政院版本一致,建議成功。第二十五條。第二十五條是本法事件細則,由中央局委員定制。謝謝各位所提案的,都跟行政院版本一樣,建議成功。第二十五條,請問通過第二十六條。第二十五,第二十六條,本法自公佈日實施。謝謝各位提案,都跟行政院一樣。第二十六,通過。好。 |
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那個剛剛我漏聽因為71頁的蘇喬惠委員的30條跟劉建國委員的25條林惟洲委員的25條我好像沒有確認有嗎?有唸過嗎?有唸過有唸過好有沒有委員要再過來?有啦齁那我沒有沒有不用那個等一下我們先要不要先處理那個 |
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護袋結議還是怎麼樣?護袋我先處理再等下都一邊大家通過來護袋結議來有沒有護袋結議來護袋結議有幾個?來來來順序在哪裡?這是修正這是修正修正護袋結議有沒有可以給我一下呢? |
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一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的一套的 |
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沒有問題。好。第二、互代協議。通過。第三個案是施教委員、吳玉琴委員、副大會委員提的全球極端氣候這個。沒有問題。好。通過。再來就是施教委員、吳玉琴委員、副大會委員提的國人十大死因中。這個移到這邊來處理啦。是。沒有問題。好。沒有問題。好。通過。接下來。欸?還有哪一個? |
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第五案是那個陳佩宇的陳佩宇委員、吳玉琴委員、王宇宇委員、石橋委員、陳佩宇委員為推動社區營養沒有問題好通過第六個是王宇宇委員、吳玉琴委員、王秀漢委員提的兒童潛力公益他說要邀集兒少代表後徵詢兒少代表的意見我們歡迎表達有必要特別寫嗎?不知道 |
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這條剛剛是有討論過啦吼應邀集邀集民間那個沒問題吧OK啦我覺得沒關係啦好沒關係啦也是需要啦吼哪一個你會找我我也是兒少代表啦吼我今天有好幾個兒少那個是不是可以寫說應邀集兒少或徵詢兒少是意見就好 |
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代表兩個字,沒有關係啦吼,我現在可以啦,好,沒問題。好,我們就要來,來拍照了捏,部長在那邊要來拍照一下。今天穿得這麼漂亮,來拍一下。 |
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17690.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
現在有什麼人要來?誰?公主?公主?怎麼沒有人啊?是市長回來? |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
17709.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
17737.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
啊張以美不是最認真的嗎?也不認了?吳玉琴一個人可以做兩個人用啦所以算兩個趕快要歡呼一下啦各黨是要來?左路喔?蛤? |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
17745.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
17746.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
對阿你沒先頂到到,看要頂什麼頂到到 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
17760.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
17780.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
主席主席因為剛剛我們在條文討論的時候有變動一些條文修正那說明來立法說明的部分是不是要授權我們行政機關要去做這個文字的調整你們整個都要再順過好所以條例條次跟立法委員說明等等的這裡等一下會宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
17786.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
17798.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
我現在就是要不要跟他宣布?我先另外宣布立法說明涉嫌主管機關去按照修改的去調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
17820.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
17834.814 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
奇怪,這個不能用視訊,視訊喔?蛤?阿你視訊,視訊沒有發展到這種地步喔?阿他人講話又不是別人講話這可能要來隨時代變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
17861.975 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
17881.816 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
我們是不是要全體熱烈歡迎那個來全體熱烈歡迎全體民主救生委員來有有趕快炸好我們就簽了上市的所有的修正的案那我們現在做以下決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
17883.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
17893.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
一、行政院函請審議《營養及健康飲食促進法草案》等14案審查完畢,並按擬具審查報告提報院會討論。院會討論本案時由邱委員蔡衍補充說明,是否需交由黨團協商,應該不需要。 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
17904.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
17927.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
二、本法案條次及研引條次授權議事人員調整。三、本次會議議事錄授權由主席核定後確認。在這邊特別再度感謝我們很辛苦的成員委員麗玲指導對國民那個營養及健康促進貢獻良多。非常感謝。我們本次會議到此結束。現在散會。來照相。 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
17936.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
17942.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
吳玉琴等16人擬具:「營養及健康飲食促進法草案案 案。」 |