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153346 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153346 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-21 |
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第11屆第1會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
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1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-30T10:26:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-30T10:37:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/bbbc431469b8aebae7d7790dffb878b1cb22e1ce6086f58bbeba37a180c9b1cd918409242d3ea2ab5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:26:24 - 10:37:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關原住民族委員會預算凍結書面報告案計4案。二、處理財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會113年度預算凍結書面報告案計1案。三、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。四、審查(一)委員高金素梅等22人擬具「都會原住民權利發展條例草案」案。(二)委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「都市原住民發展條例草案」案。(三)委員陳瑩等16人擬具「都市地區原住民族發展條例草案」案。(四)委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等21人擬具「都市原住民發展條例草案」案。【詢答及處理；第(四)案如經院會復議則不予審查】） |
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王委員美惠：（10時26分）主席，我們請主委。 |
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主委，不要緊張、不要緊張。 |
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曾主任委員智勇：謝謝。 |
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王委員美惠：主委，5月2日在內政委員會的時候，我們有審姓名條例嘛！在這裡面本席特別質詢說我們所有的原住民同仁要怎麼回復傳統的姓名，應該趕快研議一個最好的方法，包括一站式的換證服務是不是比較便民，還有不用繳這些費用，在討論當中，5月14日這個條文已經三讀通過了。主委，你知道這個過程是要讓我們原住民方便，還讓他們不用負擔換證的費用嗎？來，主委，你知道這件事情嗎？ |
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曾主任委員智勇：我跟委員報告，大部分我們換身分證都有便民措施，措施已經都有做了。 |
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王委員美惠：不是啦！我現在要問你，你知道嗎？ |
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曾主任委員智勇：我知道啦！ |
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王委員美惠：你知道嘛！好，剛才本席坐在下面，聽你說到0403的震災，我們原住民的房子壞了，是不是可以趕快讓他們申請費用、讓他們早日使用？這兩項當中，要向當地的公所申請，本席認為你們要成立一個單一窗口，救災等於救急啦！你們的報告還說教會受損的時候，這些經費6月中旬可以執行、可以給教會補助，在這裡面，本席要跟你們說，你知道要讓我們原住民方便去單一窗口辦理回復姓名，為什麼這兩項不能去協助我們原住民來申請？來，你回答一下。 |
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曾主任委員智勇：跟委員報告，有關於0403花蓮震災，教會也好或部落道路也好，我們都有去跟公所和縣政府…… |
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王委員美惠：不是啦！我現在問你說可以這樣做嗎？ |
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曾主任委員智勇：請處長說明。 |
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王委員美惠：來啦！可以這樣做嗎？ |
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劉處長維哲：報告委員，其實現在各公所本來就設立單一窗口在受理，他直接就近跟公所申請就可以了。 |
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王委員美惠：不是啦！我現在的意思就是，有時候原住民就不知道要怎麼辦、要怎麼做，一般就都要服務原住民，服務要到位啊！ |
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劉處長維哲：受災戶其實我們是有明確的，我們直接去訪視，不用被動等他來，我們人去訪視，訪視完協助他申請，其實這個比單一窗口的效益更好。 |
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王委員美惠：那主委剛才怎麼這麼說？說錢要趕快下來，讓他們趕快使用。 |
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劉處長維哲：錢本來就要趕快下去，我們錢都已經下去了。 |
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王委員美惠：你是不是比較瞭解？來，誰比較瞭解？回答一下，可能剛剛沒聽懂我的意思，簡單說就是便民，你們聽得懂嗎？原住民要申請案件或要做什麼，直接去他們那裡協助他們啦！ |
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劉處長維哲：對，我們現在的作法就是這樣。 |
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王委員美惠：作法就是這樣？不是喔！我剛才叫助理去問的是，你們要原住民的人去公所送件申請，我現在的意思是你們原住民裡面的人，可以讓他們像之前單一窗口這樣處理啦！ |
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劉處長維哲：好，現在的作法就是我們知道人在哪裡，就派人直接去看，看他要申請什麼，我們來幫忙他。 |
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王委員美惠：我的意思是你派人去看的時候，他資料全部都有了，為什麼臨門一腳，你們不直接幫忙他送件？ |
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劉處長維哲：對，我們就是看了之後，幫他申請送件，這沒有問題啊！ |
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王委員美惠：沒有問題喔？ |
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劉處長維哲：對，這是便民服務。 |
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王委員美惠：好，要趕快做喔！ |
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劉處長維哲：我們現在就在做。 |
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王委員美惠：可是剛才說的不是現在在做的喔！再來，照你們這樣說，錢什麼時候可以到他們的手上去使用？ |
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劉處長維哲：這部分我們會請地方政府的行政作業要加快一點，從寬、從速、從簡。 |
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王委員美惠：加多快？問題是在中央還是在地方？ |
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劉處長維哲：在地方。 |
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王委員美惠：地方不是說要趕快救災，怎麼還要那麼久？還要多久？0403，今天已經5月30號了耶！ |
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劉處長維哲：我跟委員報告，比方說教會修繕，我們明天會開說明會，開完說明會現場有領據，請他簽一簽之後我們就辦理撥款，用這種方式來處理。 |
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王委員美惠：好，那些百姓要修繕房子的部分呢？ |
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劉處長維哲：修繕部分的話，也就是我們到現場現勘，如果符合資格，我們把表格簡化，我們都簡化了…… |
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王委員美惠：我知道，簡化的部分我知道，所以什麼時候才會有錢？ |
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劉處長維哲：錢都已經在地方政府，只要核准，馬上就可以撥款。 |
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王委員美惠：對啊！現在就是原住民的車子和房子壞了，要怎麼讓他的錢可以趕快下來，你要協助嘛！這個就是重點，到底是什麼原因要讓百姓一直在等地方政府？現在我說的是這個。 |
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劉處長維哲：報告委員，這部分我們會加速來辦。 |
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王委員美惠：加速，加速要多久？ |
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劉處長維哲：請花蓮縣政府要儘速完成行政程序來做處理。 |
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王委員美惠：我覺得講到「氣身惱命」，我說的就是百姓受災害急需要錢，不是說……你也要替百姓去跟花蓮縣政府追，這個錢到底什麼時候要下來啊！好不好？ |
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劉處長維哲：好。 |
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王委員美惠：這才是目的，這才是重要的啊！ |
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再來，本席上次質詢的時候有說到，如果你們要搬遷的話，可以研議給他緩衝3個月，你們現在討論得怎麼樣？還是馬耳東風問一問就忘記了？不會替我們百姓…… |
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劉處長維哲：報告委員，對不起，我剛剛沒有聽清楚緩衝什麼業務？ |
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王委員美惠：我們是不是要……表示我跟你們質詢的，你們回去都沒有討論啦！你們要搬去桃園，那時候說要讓他們可以有幾個月……不過在臺北或在哪裡要到桃園的時候不一定可以啦！我就知道你的業務，我就想說你沒有……沒辦法還是怎麼樣？還是還在研議？那時候我提醒你要有3個月的緩衝期讓他們考慮一下。 |
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楊處長正斌：對，那個部分沒有問題，就是在他們搬遷的協助裡面就有放這個緩衝期。 |
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王委員美惠：沒問題吧，好，主席再1分鐘給我。主委，我請問一下，你們博物館要蓋在哪裡？剛才你的工作報告提到的。 |
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曾主任委員智勇：高雄的澄清湖。 |
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王委員美惠：再來，你們的集會所，如果要鼓勵住在「內山」的人住到市區，你們如果要蓋集會所，多少人你才會蓋？ |
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曾主任委員智勇：在鄉（市），希望在1,500人以上。 |
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王委員美惠：希望啦，我針對嘉義市來跟你說，目前嘉義市1,288個，再212個，就到1,500個了，你們集會所要蓋的時候，有跟嘉義市政府商量過嗎？你們的做法是要把原住民的福利照顧好，不是要把原本住在山上的原住民都趕一趕，讓他們到市區來生活，應該是市區的也要顧、山上的也要顧，才是有作為、有擔當的主委啊！如果像你們這樣做，山裡就沒有半個人了！主委，你研議一下，差不多一個禮拜給我一個書面，以上。 |
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曾主任委員智勇：跟委員報告，你們說的這個我們已經去看過，嘉義市民政局我們會主動來協助，我們去看過了。 |
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王委員美惠：你們要蓋在哪裡？ |
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劉處長維哲：請他們找地，有地我們就來幫忙。 |
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王委員美惠：有地就幫忙，如果沒有地就不用幫忙了？ |
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劉處長維哲：地它要自己處理啦！ |
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王委員美惠：喔！地要自己處理？你叫他們來市區住，然後叫市政府自己處理？來，不要耽誤時間，這問題有夠大的，所以你們要詳細去瞭解一下，以上。 |
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主席：好，謝謝美惠委員的質詢。 |
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繼續我們請李柏毅委員質詢。 |
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王委員美惠：對耶，你反質詢我，你會被關喔！ |
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委員會-11-1-15-21 |
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高金素梅 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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陳瑩 |
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蘇巧慧 |
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張宏陸 |
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麥玉珍 |
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牛煦庭 |
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黃捷 |
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王美惠 |
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李柏毅 |
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黃仁 |
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吳琪銘 |
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許宇甄 |
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盧縣一 |
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徐欣瑩 |
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林倩綺 |
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丁學忠 |
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張智倫 |
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黃建賓 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關原住民族委員會預算凍結書面報告案計4案；二、處理財
團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會113年度預算凍結書面報告案計1案；三、邀請原住民族委員
會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢；四、審查(一)委員高金素梅等22人擬具「都
會原住民權利發展條例草案」案、(二)委員鄭天財 Sra Kacaw 等17人擬具「都市原住民發展條例
草案」案、( 三) 委員陳瑩等16 人擬具「都市地區原住民族發展條例草案」案、( 四) 委員伍麗華
Saidhai Tahovecahe 等21人擬具「都市原住民發展條例草案」案 |
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指太小了。 |
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主席、主委、主委、不要緊扭、不要緊扭。主委,本席提供的策略,在內政的時候,我們有姓名條例,在這裏面本席特別質詢說,如果我們的原住民的同仁,所有要如何恢復傳統的姓名,應該是 |
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演繹一個最好的方法：包括外情：一站的合幅：甚至合併名：還要免納這些經費：在條文當中提供的實施：我們這個條文已經在三度通過了：主委你知道：這個過程是要讓我們的原住民： |
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的方便,又讓他們不用負擔,要多錢的費用嗎?來,主委你知道這件事嗎? |
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我向委員報告,代表我們這個換這個證明換身分證,這個我們都有辨明措施,措施已經都有做好。是啦,我現在要問你,你知道嗎?我知道啦。你知道嘛,來,你知道啦。剛才本市長在下課,聽你說0304,我們就在我們原住民的家裡, |
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是否曾經申請可持、可讓人自力使用這兩項當中要向當地的公所申請本身是認為您要審理一個單一傳口 |
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就在等於就職啦。在這裏面,你又說告復會受訓的時候,這裏的經費,你的報告是六月中旬,可以執行、可以給告復的步驟。在這裏面,我們是要告訴你,為什麼你知道我們的市民方便給我們的原住民去搬單一窗戶, |
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是如何你這兩個不能協助我們的原住民來申請嗎?來,你回答一下。教育委員報告,這個零四零三花蓮這個震災齁,這個校圍也好,還是說那個部落的道路也好齁,我們都有內含這個公所,跟這個原住民。沒有啦,我現在要告訴你,你可以做這樣嗎啦? |
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來啦!可以這樣做嗎?報告委員其實本來現在各公所本來就設立單一倉庫在受理,因為就近公所他直接跟公所受理就可以了。不是啦!我現在的意思就是說,跟我們有些原住民不知道要怎麼辦、要怎麼做啦! |
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一般都要服務關處理我們現在受災戶其實我是有明確的我們直接去訪視我不用等他 被動等他來我們人是去訪視 訪視完協助他申請其實這個跟抵戴鏈窗口的效益更好這樣主委 剛才怎麼這樣說說一人要緊就來他們要緊輸喔一人本來就要緊下去啊我一人當然緊下去啊 |
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來,你是不是很了解,來來來,主席,什麼人很了解回答一下,可能他聽不到我的意思,變民,說那麼近的變民,你聽到沒有啦,一間地的原住民,要走走,要做什麼,直接去來協助啦。 |
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對喔!我現在的做法就是這樣啊!做法這樣?不是喔!我剛才在外面叫你問的是,你還要原住民的人上街去公訴申請咧!我現在的意思是,你原住民裡面的人像之前在你村口可以讓他們這樣處理啦! |
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我現在的做法就是,我知道人在哪裡,我就派人去看,看他們的行情什麼。我的意思是說,你派人去看的時候,他住了都很久了,是要怎麼臨門一朝,你不怎麼走去,來送他,他待了三天啦。對啊,我看了報的行情,把他送走。 |
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這沒有問題阿沒有問題喔對對好沒有問題喔要趕緊走喔我們現在就在做喔現在在做 對可是他剛才說的不是現在在做的喔再來在這樣發生的時候像你們這樣說的當時可以站到他們的手上可以去他們使用 |
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加多快?問題是在上面還是在上面? |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
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在地方。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
337.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
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對。 在地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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對。 在地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
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對。 在地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
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對。 在地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
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對。 在地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
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對。 在地方? |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
379.965 |
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修繕部分的話,也就是他如果說我們到現場現刊,現刊如果符合資格,我們把簡化的表格,我們就簡化了。簡化只要有照片。 我知道,簡化的那個我知道。 對。那時候有一次, |
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錢都已經在地方政府,只要核准就馬上就可以撥款。對啦,到現在就是說,你要怎麼讓你的原住民的人,屬於他的車、他的房子,要怎麼趕快給他錢就來嘛。你要協助這個,重點就是這個嘛。他們要先跟你們地方的政府到底要擔任什麼官員啊。現在我說的是這樣啊。 |
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對阿,包委員我們這部分我們會加速來辦啦。加速?阿加速多久?對,請花蓮縣政府要盡量紓緩那個行政程序來做處理。 |
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吼!我估計吼!講到去新羅名啦!我講的就是!百姓受災愛!冠軍愛職!不是說跟你們爽的!你們也要替百姓去啦!花蓮見霧堆!這個職到底當時要來啊!好不好!這才是目的啊!這才是要緊啊! |
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再來,在本席這宗的選舉時,有說到我們擬具時,我們可以願意給他一個緩衝三個月,您現在討論在哪裡來?來,或是盲盲的馬力達鴻,盲盲的又不會一個啦,不可以替我們的北省,我們的... 包委員,對不起,我剛剛沒有聽出緩衝什麼業務。 |
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來審時﹑要標示﹑我若您接受的話﹑您當時都沒有討論﹑您要去討論的時候﹑您的選擇﹑要讓他們可以有幾個月﹑有幾個月﹑要在台北、在哪裡要去討論的時候﹑不一定可以﹑ |
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我又知道你的業務,我又想說你沒辦法。那個沒有三個月的緩衝期。沒辦法,還是怎樣?還是還要研議?三個月,以前我如果你提起說要有三個月的緩衝期,讓他們考慮一下。對,那個部分沒有問題,就是在他們的協助裡面就要放這個緩衝期。好來,沒問題來。主席還有一個問題給我。 |
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來 主委 我要請問一下您博物館 要去哪裏 台獨那裏的工作報告高雄的陳清福喔 高雄的陳清福再來 您的集會所 您如果說高雄來選 到底選的人要來 起來那您如果要去集會所 多少人可以去多少人你要去 |
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565.273 |
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希望在一千五百人以上希望啦齁 這樣啦 我針對加義企啦 你講現在沒錢加義企 一千兩百八十八個 又欠兩百十二個 五千五個啊你機會所要去的時候 你有啦加義企 這樣我有參選過嗎 |
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您的做法是要原住民的福利照顧好好的不是原住民住在山的原住民都一直來國外來市內生活您是要啦!市內也要購!山也要購!這個是有作為有單單的主委啊! |
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議員主席 |
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626.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
主席美惠委員 |
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主席王美惠議員 |