| IVOD_ID |
15319 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15319 |
| 日期 |
2023-11-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2023112418 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
10 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2023-11-29T14:30:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2023-11-29T15:38:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
01:07:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2023-11-29T15:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院黨團協商（事由：研商「113年度中央政府總預算案」（公務預算部分）） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:30:02 - 15:38:00 |
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現在我們就來進行今天的會議立法院黨團協商會議會議開始今天的主題就是研商113年度中央政府總預算案公務預算的部分現在我們就開始來看誰要來先發言 |
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關於中央政府總預算、公務預算、黨團協商部分實例黨團建議時程是說12月7日收案截止12月13日到15日進行黨團協商完成後再交院會繼續處理完成 |
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因為例如教文委員會要到12月4號這個預算才會全部審查完畢同時也考量到各公務單位可以有足夠的時間可以跟各黨團預先討論提案因此才做以上時間的建議 |
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此外營業跟非營業等基金預算的部分﹖也應該要在本會期來完成﹖因為所有的相關提案﹖都是這一屆的委員所提的為了民意的完整以貫徹﹖所以也需要在這一屆﹖完成這一部分預算的協商﹖然後院會三讀通過﹖所以後續也請院長﹖可以儘快安排協商此外還有許多要完成三讀的法案﹖像 |
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這個今天剛剛才這個審查的這個形式的這這鑑定的形式輸送法鑑定的部分那因此實例也再度要再次提出反對提前修這個提前停會那這樣才有足夠的時間在本屆完成處理所有的預算跟這個法案以上 |
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好 接下來邱成年委員好 謝謝院長今天要針對這個113年度中央政府總預算案那民眾黨的主張非常明確我們希望就是因為現在目前委員會應該還剩教文委員會的河安會還沒有審訊那還有交通委員會交通委員會的這個公共工程委員會以及NCC國家通訊傳播委員會還有 |
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國家運輸安全調查委員會 跟中央氣象署 這幾個還沒有審訊所以應該是 看起來是應該到下禮拜三會完成所以我們主張 12月8號 就是收案截止下禮拜五之前 收案截止14號開始請院長密集安排協商那可以在20號那個禮拜 來去完成三讀那相關營業費營業基金 我們也希望在法定會期內把它完成 |
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至於本屆的未竟之功針對之前大家討論的提早休會這件事情民眾黨這邊的態度還是主張我們反對提早休會不贊成停會因為我們除了預算總預算案我們希望在法定會期完成之外我們還有幾個 |
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重大的法案待處理我們希望可以來去完成我們的未竟之功包含這個11月16號委員會完成審查的屯房稅2.0這個房屋稅條例部分條文修正草案以及11月24號未完成協商保留條文待游院長協商的最低工資法還有外交國防委員會在11月20號審查完畢的軍事營區安全維護條例這還有保留條文也要請游院長召開黨團協商 |
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這個也是涉及我國現任全民國防跟國家安全的重要法案另外還有本黨團吳欣英委員在未還委員會審查完畢希望姚院長可以召開協商處理的數位醫療發展條例草案這個部分 |
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我們知道因為這幾個重要的法案跟我們國人關心的目標非常一致因為屆期不連續的關係我們希望在第十屆可以奠定一個好的基礎不要讓這一屆的努力白費所以除了本週五預計三讀通過的現在這個道路交通安全基本法這也是大家非常關心的那也很順利我們在交通委員會審查 |
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８立法院黨團協商８公務預算部分８公務預算部分 |
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發展法草案以及地方創生促進法草案這個兩項法案因為這個是對於少子化國安危機包含我們在上個會期就提出的少子女化社會對策基本法這個都是我們本黨團現在關心的這個重大法案我們希望可以在這個會期盡快的來處理那現在因為都停在委員會待審那隨著本屆任期結束之後其實很多法案就屆期不連續我們希望可以把 |
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有限時間內 完成未競資工所以重申 針對總預算 營業費 營業基金部分我們主張在法定會期內 我們完成審查至於後續要提早休會的部分 我們主張反對希望在剩下的時間 可以把這些未完成的法案 盡快來稍微協商 完成三讀以上是我們的主張 謝謝好 謝謝邱總召接下來 接下來 來 |
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各位同仁大家好有關總預算的部分因為我們上次協商的時候有初步就希望能夠20號可以修會大方向支持假設這樣推的話國民黨的意見是希望12月6號截止收案 |
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這段期間之後 讓各部會可以溝通的期間 12月11號再進行相關的草委協商 因為剛剛陳妍已經講了 14號那太慢了 太慢你那時候 你到時候會時間太短 |
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有關時間上的修正我的想法是原則上支持在修位前讓他完成三讀但是有些部會我們現在留下來比如這段期間的NCC太不像話了 |
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這NCC本來是依照它組織條例規定是是獨立機關現在變成民進黨的附屬單位還不是機關 附屬單位所以超級誇張比如說像趙薩昌先生成為國民黨的副總統的搭檔副總統候選人結果媒體登說他已經辭了 |
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他現在也沒有主持節目啦那依照他那個廣播電視法第五條之一沒有問題完全合法結果NCC出來講如果有必要約談這什麼NCC啊這能讓他通過嗎當然不可以還有行政院這段期間 |
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常常配合賴清德副總統大撒幣 行政院院本部的留下來另外就是有關華視 超級誇張 超級誇張啦他的高層幾乎都三立來的啦另外都基本上他應該是公事集團 變成不是公事集團 所以文化部 |
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的預算也留下來所以國民黨大方向支持但是行政院 院本部 NCC 還有文化部 |
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這段期間可以進行,但基本上這三個行政院本部、NCCC、更化部的預算我們觀察一段時間再審第三點,有關法案的部分,我們倆主張有兩個法案希望這段期間可以通過,第一個基本工資法基本工資法最低工資法,對,最低工資法要過 |
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2986.488 |
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防護稅條例﹑屯廊稅 |
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委員長、各位協商代表我聽起來,事實上各黨團所談的,我們談第一個總預算的問題總預算大概明天,交安委員會審查有關於NCC還有工程會最後一次然後還有交易委員會有關於核安會預算 |
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| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
3034.983 |
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我跟曾銘銘商量,下禮拜有婚姻要調給他,下禮拜一要處理,大概總預算結束 |
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3058.007 |
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有關於營業及非營業基金當然我們一直想能夠處理但是現在實質上完全來不及各位會都完全來不及這個我們要面對事實本來一開始這個會期本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本本 |
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政政組委員組成6號、7號、8號、6、7、8都有啊你人人嘛那你責重一下7號也可以啦責重一下7號也可以就來樣手7號7號可以嘛齁7號7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛齁7號可以嘛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
3102.992 |
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就大家著重嘛,差不多就三天原則上是這樣啦,但是有一些特殊的環境,或者是有些重大的案件我們大家都在這裡預算,都很有經驗那6、7、8起7號嘛,就到7號截止什麼開始溝通就11號你說幾號? |
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3135.185 |
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臺灣的說完了要馬上去溝通啦11號要來開始啦要開始啦密集喔我是說14號開始密集協商不是14號去溝通你懂我意思嗎那大家我最近大家啦都先找人啦 哪有在找人你不要找人 |
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我們都是稀有靈犀臉通的11號開始協商這是基本上那剛剛邱總長有講一句話說希望20號以前完成三讀這是一定的沒關係我講完再來喬 |
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休會時間,我們跟國民黨說是一樣,希望最後一天是19號,那早日當沒有公司就要通過M1程序來處理,這很公平的,那不會說大家誰聽誰的,那這個有關這個部分,我一算就差不多如此。 |
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各位放心,你們現在所提的有關於洪水、有關於這一公司,還有事實上不只這些我今天早上也稍微跟鄭中委員稍微溝通一下,我們有很多法案,金氏延期的那個也會 |
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3206.41 |
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3234.836 |
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今天有所提的法案,包括下禮拜可能省的電話飲食促進法,像今天吃太陽才拿出來要檳榔,這個都是很正常的法案就是說應該統計的法案還不止這些,我們都一一會把它完成,而且我們都有安部就班在處理有的就是能夠表決就表決嘛至於沒有辦法做到就是說 |
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3265.175 |
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你那種黨人所提的世衛醫療世衛醫療這個是吳靜雲委員所提的嘛那世衛醫療他這個沒有行政版本他那個版本寫的事實上可能大部分大家都有意見委員會審的時候大家都很清楚那要表決也不到一個月也不能表決那這個是一個人要把世衛醫療修好不是那麼簡單那個要整個行政部門下來人家沒辦法啦都要公費 |
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3293.564 |
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另外有關於邱仁志委員所談的刑訴的事件監禁,這樣大家都簽完了嘛,只是讓謝宇峰也了解,他們都說明過了可以的話這個禮拜五就可以排入議程嘛,道安條例也是這個禮拜五也會排進去那大概我們總結來講的話,我們希望走運站能夠通過,然後該通過法案 |
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3319.01 |
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有十幾種,我們陸續會提出來那這部分請大家到時候都沒有公示在院長要出去插下去反正那個已經到一個月都可以表決,不到一個月就比較難講了我們會把它整理出來那最後一點就是說,但是我要拜託曾民東總召啦我知道你對於NCC有意見 |
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3321.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
3329.531 |
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NC有意見的話,當然對於遭遭狀況的事情明天誰要想出委會來?你自己覺得沒關係? |
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| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
3359.241 |
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該怎麼樣我們會怎樣,我們不會說硬拗,趙鋒鋒本身他是總市長請假,中廣總市長請假,但他也是總經理,他也是總經理,那個也要一併請假還有蓋歐普民調他也是中廣的,所以那邊都要在選舉上都應該有很清楚的表示,其他照法來就好了 |
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3372.636 |
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我相信沒有選任以後,一般解釋就任才要辭但是相關的該請假的書上面應該要請假這點明天你就問NCC就好啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
那另外有關行政驗補部和有關於這個法事法事現在只是政府每人補助他而已嘛我認為法事把文化部整個趴掉也不對啦所以有關這些總預算有不同意見我們希望能夠建立在溝通上面 |
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3410.5 |
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因為你假如這幾個不出意的話,總預算還是不會過啊,就白搞了啦總預算一定還是整個總統三讀嘛,那數字都很清楚我在這裡還是跟政務委員沒關係,你現在在NCC去問沒關係我不要怕問啦,我不是這麼問啦,委員長不是主委啦 |
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可是延期預算你覺得有意見,明明就問他,錢保留也無所謂啦,至少我們有機會來處理啦,這樣好不好?來這裡說也可以啦,沒關係啦我覺得我沒有任何意見,總的來講,我們一定要有這個統計嘛,應該通過法案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
3437.939 |
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我再補充一點就有關法案的部分刑法185條之3獨駕 |
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3462.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
3478.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
讀價的部分我們也希望能夠在休會前完成三讀我們要一個法案一個法案來你不要說讀價沒有過的話其他都不要不能這樣講有關新華185條之3已經在禮拜擺很久了有關讀價但讀品的種類很多種 |
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3486.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
3512.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
數百種所以每一個要弄得很清楚雖然很困難那為什麼法務部和司法院一直有不同意見因為司法院認為你這個毒品種類很多種比如說你四年前戳大麻但是今天抓到根本已經它已經驗不出來了所以很多還有很多毒品的種類太多所以沒有辦法很清楚的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
3530.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
弄得很清楚的話施懷英認為這樣的話很快會被判違憲所以他現在我們在這樣活佈是想通過施懷英有一些疑慮我們再來溝通沒有關係我知道崔玉峰委員也有提一個版本和活佈的不一樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
3557.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
我協商的時候那個版本我已經取消了我們就按照就是行政院的跟司法院他們共同的版本而且那天在協商的時候其實司法院也沒有意見他們認為說把那個毒品的那個品項有沒有沒有寫在立法說明那他們叫法務部回去那其實當天黨團協商的時候就是黨團協商大家也同意說不用經過院長協商可是不知道為什麼回去以後就是 |
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3560.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
3574.277 |
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陳昭華委員那天也在現場,我們各黨都沒有意見這法案都會說的,就是說石文宇有餘力,他說你沒有弄很清楚的話,人家失竊的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
3577.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
主席主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
3622.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
在收案的時間建議在12月7號嘛剛剛大家討論但是希望這個時間能夠拉到下午然後另外呢實力黨團就是還是反對我們提前停會我們還是要再重申我們的主張因為真的是很多重要的法案我們也都沒有來完成以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
3623.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
3628.782 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
請各黨團於12月7日星期四中午12點之前將《113年度中央政府總預算案》之提案送至財政委員會會長 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
3650.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
3668.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
預時不再說案 財政委員會說案後 交各該委員會整理復印相關提案後 於12月8日星期五中午12時前提供各黨團及相關行政部委員參考 請行政部委員向提案委員及黨團進行雙向說明 陸時溝通 畢例 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
3672.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
3675.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
後續12月11日星期一起密集協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
3690.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
3711.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
那8號星期五就會因為大家都知道他們我們的行政要收起來所以如果最好是在所有點讓我們的行政委員那第二天禮拜五他們也有半天可以整理這樣這個院長這個部分還是希望能夠拉那你就拉到下午3點4點這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
3713.194 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
3728.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
有差啦 拜託啦 有什麼差啦 喝醉回去啦 該提案就差不多了真的你說 這小修正而已啊 等一下我講一下剛才大家有提到說有某案上不服喔 到時候要加就好了 我們不會這麼硬嘛 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
3729.783 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
3756.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
我當院長應該要替我們的行政委員講一句話就是說他們只想加班你5點給他他就晚上要加班所以說你如果12點給他他下午可以錄一錄第二天中午又給各位各位的辦公室也會方便啦因為以前的收案其實過了時間還是會收但是因為現在的我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
3758.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
3759.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
為什麼都要通過你? |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
3784.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3785.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
兩件啦兩件啦對嘛 這講話怎麼都 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
3808.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
3809.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
我們寫原則,原則寫下去,不要寫預時不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
3837.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
3848.671 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
有啦有啦不是,你一寫一寫都可以演,大家都會演,各黨都會演可是我們有時候差個一分鐘就不收,這讓我們不會,他們不敢這樣啦有時候落列的話再補也可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
3856.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
3857.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
請各黨團在12月7日星期四 下午2點前 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
3874.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3901.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
將《113年度中央政府總預算案》之提案送致財政委員會會長預署不再說案財政委員會說案後交各該委員會整理呼應相關提案後於12月8日星期五中午12點之前提供各黨團及相關行政部委員參考請行政部委員向提案委員及黨團進行雙向說明陸續溝通必利後續12月11日星期一其密集協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
3902.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
3902.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
4057.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
4057.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
暫停會議 |