| IVOD_ID |
152998 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152998 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-27T09:59:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-27T10:08:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/536b9eee2a0ea5b3c3784f50fb8024ca5186e4a1bc6f964e945ede7791f90b9e0630bd2d7ebc433a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王育敏 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:59:13 - 10:08:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查
(一)委員林德福等19人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員楊瓊瓔等16人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員馬文君等25人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員涂權吉等17人擬具「就業服務法部分條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員黃建賓等20人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(六)委員呂玉玲等16人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員盧縣一等17人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員鄭正鈐等17人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員王育敏等17人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十)委員張嘉郡等30人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十一)委員王鴻薇等22人擬具「就業服務法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查
(一)委員萬美玲等36人擬具「勞動基準法第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員許宇甄等18人擬具「勞動基準法第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員馬文君等20人擬具「勞動基準法第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員邱若華等16人擬具「勞動基準法第五十條條文修正草案」案。
【一（九） ：如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】
【一(十)、(十一) ：如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】
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謝謝主席。我們是不是有請何部長?有請部長。委員好。部長好。是。部長今天本席安排有很多委員的提案針對80歲以上就免巴士量表。我想這一個提案其實為什麼這麼多委員不約而同提出來?那主要是 |
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我們看到在總統大選的時候事實上三黨的候選人針對這個巴士量表所引發的問題大家其實都有提出自己的政見跟看法那包括這個賴清德總統他說台灣社會的確有照顧服務的需求巴士量表已經產生問題到了不得不改的情況 |
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這句話何部長你之前有接受到這樣的訊息嗎? |
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是我想當時確實那總統他曾經非常重視這個問題沒有錯對那當選之後應該更重視吧當然當然他現在握有權力囉那過去巴士亮表所引發這一些不必要的爭議甚至讓這個醫師遭受到暴力攻擊我覺得這些家屬應該也不是蓄意的但是是在情急之下 |
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引伸了這樣的一個爭端。那我覺得如果我們的政策可以去免除這樣的一個爭議,又可以幫這一些這個需要照顧的長者就是引進適當的這個外籍看護工。我覺得這個在政策上才是兩全其美。這個也是為什麼這麼多委員提出來就是要求 |
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80歲以上應該廢除巴士量表。不用這麼讓這些長輩這麼的舟車勞頓讓家屬這麼的著急沒有辦法找到適當的人來照顧喔我想這個是很多委員真的是從民眾的角度看到他們的需求而這樣的一個當時由侯友宜總統候選人所提出來的政見其實真的是廣獲好評喔 |
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在基省裡面很多民眾是非常支持的那這個就代表說這樣的需求其實是非常的迫切所以我們才排了這樣的一個議案 |
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那這個我請問部長你是贊成還是是反對?委員我非常肯定你們提案的這樣子的一個精神這我這完全當然是肯定的那只是當然我就是剛剛跟你們跟貴會有報告過就是所以在去年之後馬上就發展出兩個模式一個就是多元認定另外一個就移工 |
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進入這個家庭照顧的這樣子的一個示範方案。那麼我們希望當然今天委員的提案也可以讓我們有更精進的思考啦。那我們如何一起看是不是能夠在您的提案的這樣子的一個能夠既支持您的提案然後也能夠這個兼顧。不過你還是不容諱言啦因為它會衝擊到整個長照體系。 |
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多元認證或將來外籍開戶工半天,這個我都很贊成。但是你不能忽略有一些他需要就是整天。他現在其實就是卡在這個巴士量表不上不下的一個情況。 |
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於是有這樣子的人啊所以當你去採取一個放寬的時候不代表會嚴重衝擊到你的長照體系我就不是這樣子混為一談在政府的政策工具上面你還是可以去設計我了解當然我們多元認定的方式是不是能夠再更精進 |
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是啊。 是是是。這個我想我們可以一起來討論好不好。對啊。你既然可以多元認定那取消八十歲以上的八十量表這也不是什麼問題啊。這是符合你多元認定上的精神不是嗎?你多元認定不是就是不要用唯一的標準來算嗎?其實八十量表是一個醫學認定的標準啊。是啊。我們也必須跟衛福部一起討論。 |
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是。那就趕快討論吧。因為禮拜三我們會就進入主條。就是要來討論這樣的一個議案。我覺得有時候我們的政策也要與時俱進。就是要去考量到真正的需求。那這個不只是對於80歲以上老人。我們就是免這個巴士量表的評估。就不用讓他週車勞頓再跑到醫院去。那一方面其實也讓家裡的這些照顧者,特別 |
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特别是年輕人知道說如果當他家裡有年紀這麼高的長輩的話過去一定要是他非常重度或者是符合巴士量表裡面比較嚴格的標準他才有機會去申請到外籍看護工那你如果現在這個部分可以去降低這個門檻的話對於這些年輕人來講他得到了一線升級 |
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有的人不用辭職只是為了照顧家裡的老人因為他會擔心那他可以有一個選擇是我可以花錢去請外籍看護工讓他的爸爸媽媽可以得到一個比較好的照顧他上班的時候可以比較安心我覺得這個為什麼是80歲以上因為現行的我們的平均餘命你知道男生是多少嗎男性不到80歲79的樣子 |
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大概是77.7欸女性才是84.3所以你說這個是一個很寬鬆的標準嗎?不是喔其實很多的男性平均逾命在 |
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王育敏王育敏 |
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參加的問題我們來看一下女性參加的問題坦白講我擔任立委到現在很多委員一提再提都沒有辦法突破但是我們看看為什麼我們鄰近的國家日本南韓中國大陸甚至印度印尼他們都可以做到這樣子但是我們就是參加要延長 |
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這件事情其實已經提了很久那勞動部也一直是反對可不可以講反對真正的理由是什麼 |
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護主反對就是怕對女性在就是這個產後女性齁就業其實會有隱性的歧視啦其實真的就怕這個啦那我要跟委員報告我們那個產假當然現在目前表面看是8週嘛可是包括安胎假包括產檢假合併起來有心部分喔這個部分合併就已經都15週了 |
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﹏﹏﹏﹏﹏﹏﹏ |
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王育敏委員老發言 |