| IVOD_ID |
152214 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152214 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-06 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-06T11:38:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-06T11:46:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:38:30 - 11:46:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會（事由：舉行「全民健康保險醫療給付費用總額之現況與展望」公聽會） |
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謝謝主席這個修法的案是我提出來所以我來講講可能大家比較聽得懂我覺得今天壓力最小應該是健保局跟衛福部 |
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所以他就要做總額啊就拚拚給你們啊沒搞到就自己去浮動浮動0.5、0.6、0.3都你們做的事情但是我想他們怎麼會不會這樣啊施主長你們怎麼會不會這樣啊 |
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他一直找我在講怎麼來解決某些問題他還跟我提出不然的話就是住院來保障保障點子一點一塊我聽了很高興但是如果你的這裡的保障點子是一點一塊 |
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然後去壓榨到其他浮動點子這樣就沒意義了那些浮動點子就剩三天兩天了就不用浮動了嘛所以你們在總額裡面然後這裡保障那裡保障這裡保障1.1塊錢有啊 藥費就1.1塊錢啊所以2000多億的藥費就這樣呼嚕呼嚕的就沒了然後呢 反過頭來新藥新科技 |
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剛剛我們陳時中前部長他剛剛講了一個良心話他說健保總額要瘦身那終於講出良心話了總額要瘦身當然要瘦身啊前幾天我們時書長時書長講一個罕病 |
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每一年每一年付聽了很高興對這些弱勢團體但是你是包山包海你什麼都要包現在長照長照每天每天都在吃健保的豆腐 |
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我很後悔在第8屆我當召委的時候把長照服務法通過了那個時候馬英九總統說趕緊趕緊把長照保險法掃過去他就說李益春在做次長對吧我們都做那個要緊張不過那個時候我們的蔡英文主席那個時候堅決反對所以那個案就不去 |
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我剛才在問他說,那個時候的長照保險如果有過,現在會長得什麼樣子?日本就是兩個,有醫療保險跟介護醫療保險,他們有兩個保險。那我們在訂長照服務法的時候,我去到那裡,我帶很多人去那裡考察兩次。 |
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結果他們說他們的介乎醫療當下那個時候就那一年就9.4兆日元我一去就很緊張他說我已經撐不住了他們的首相那個是安倍剛剛就任他想把醫療保險跟長照保險把它募集在一起看看能不能重複的地方能不能省下來那後來好像有部分募集在一起併在一起 |
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那我們現在就用一個醫療保險在支撐醫療還在部分支撐長照保險沒有長照保險之名但是我們在付長照保險之時反正很多人說說這個育成育成當然也要照顧 |
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醫療要有韌性啊 啊醫療有韌性是什麼 韌性就是reserve 要有一塊地啦 一塊本啦 啊大家都散屁屁啦 要再韌性 沒錢要韌性 韌性是要有經濟的支撐所以呢 我們學者專家 包括政所下 他們都是一路走來 伴隨著健保在走 飛到 |
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關頭了,我們不會提出來現在就是無處理不可以的時候民進黨都沒提案,我提一個案,黃毅民提一個案,黨團提一個案民進黨我在等你提案,不敢提,誰不敢提,新的補定不知道要怎麼補啊總統也不知道要怎麼補,你說得這麼大堆,你自己說1.1元喔搞清楚喔 |
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三個總統候選人都講一樣,0.95朝1.1遠方,不要進,侯友宜也是一樣這樣講,侯友宜講的比我講的,柯恩哲也一樣,所以賴總統在想什麼,你是腎臟科醫師,大家都頭腦都不錯啦,我心臟外科,我們王剛系是 |
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總留科的我們好好地來跟他們說為什麼上禮拜我堅持要出委員會當然也要出委員會不出委員會你就沒壓力啊你就擺爛啊就討論我們主席跟我們講說待會在討論討論我告訴你你再討論三年就沒結果了因為過去十年就是這樣討論就是討論所以在疫情的時候我們很感謝衛生部也回過頭來照顧 |
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我們的意見這是事實但是我有跟大家講那些特別預算補助所有醫事人員的全部都照冊照冊照冊醫療院手人一毛錢沒人幹因為那些負薪者所以你現在剛剛在講說醫改會在講說醫事人員的薪水都沒有增加等等我可以在這邊要求我們衛務部 |
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我們以後報財報上去就把醫事這邊老黨很簡單啊這個護理人員這個某某某他一年領多少錢從博覽報給你們給你們一個一個去檢視這個不難這個很簡單的事情我們以後的財報就把連人事費用都報上去我們醫界敢這樣承諾就這樣幹有沒有問題沒有問題啊不能說 |
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最後講30秒有這一書 我的有書 我跟他說藥師調劑費 什麼費 什麼費 什麼費我全部都給你我還加三成給你你們去付你們自己的薪水他們不要因為他們要求的是起薪90萬年薪然後最好每個月要10萬塊不然的話外面大數藥局一個月就是10萬塊 |
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所以 有錢也欠沒人 那我們婦理學院會 等一下記者會講不要說你幫這邊要愛護病肥 這邊要愛顧心事 還要照辦 你在裝笑的所以我們只能 一樣 所以再一次跟大家報告 |
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蘇清泉 |