| IVOD_ID |
152190 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152190 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-36-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-06T10:07:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-06T10:13:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6319d5f220c85a68997b8841e8c9330f993287635c0a127bd65503e05c7869ec6dbb4e661cf025135ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
柯建銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:07:30 - 10:13:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查
（一）民進黨黨團擬具「立法委員行為法第七條之一及第三十條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「立法委員行為法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員范雲等18人擬具「立法委員行為法第七條條文修正草案」案。
二、繼續審查
（一）民進黨黨團擬具「立法院議事規則第四十七條、第四十八條及第五十二條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「立法院議事規則第九條、第二十二條及第五十條條文修正草案」案。） |
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接下來是莊委員要程序發言齁?整個在一委員進來以後,我是講說吳宗憲你是懷疑人,你這幾十名的姦阿瓜我非常尊敬你。但是從剛才的發言引來至於過去所有的在這個委員會裡面所有關於我們修法,有關於國會改革的修法,我們發現有一個叫吳宗憲的無奈。 |
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人家是不錯啦,就想要依法行事啦,要奉行憲法,但是他有很多無奈啊。因為從一開始排的時候我就一直跟他講,郭榮鏗委員你應該不會忘記,政府國會改革要好好的審,那我要開公聽會,然後一條一條好好審。 |
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他說永遠都是一句話,我知道啦,你去問副總裁講一下。這個叫吳宗憲委員的無奈,但是他有這麼無奈還算本質不錯的人啦。本質不錯啦,但是沒有在高壓統治底下要行使抵抗權,要行使抵抗權,反抗。 |
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自由就是這樣爭取而來的。自由就是這樣爭取而來的。有沒有,有一句話,陶柏川有個名言,建制派委員,非常有名的陶柏川,明明而死,不末而生。請你把他放在心裡。當年陶柏川當建制派委員,在蔣介石時代,彈劾當年的行政院長易鴻鈞,以及易鴻鈞同時是央行總裁。 |
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黨派團就敢彈劾,蔣介石都低頭了。所以我們當民意代表,你要瞭解你來當民意代表幹什麼的。民意代表不是只有藍綠而已,民意代表來當立法委員這是一種志業,為國家追求公民正義。所以在這裡我要祈禱吳宗憲委員,在整個過程中我一直拜託你,合要信合要信,公聽要公聽的。 |
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但是他有無奈,但是他也有做一些擦邊球和我來做專案報告,這一點我要感謝你。那你偷偷偷到後來4月3號了,要硬幹的時候,但是老天有眼,發生大地震。我以為說是老天要救臺灣的民主人,然後下午就停下來,但是後來還是一樣嘛。 |
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因為會議去走了吧,你們等於要輸一票吧,所以你們不得不妥協啦。所以這個情形我們都很清楚,這個過程我們要進行民主。反正民主能夠這樣存到今天來,過去在六海裡面都可以認證的。但是今天整個翻轉了,整個變成了,所有的東西都沒收了。甚至連海安國議院長的草藥箱錢都要被沒收。 |
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謝謝大家來看這一課,這是憲法時刻,憲政時刻。我們今天要講的就是說,郭文貴也有開了。好,你要再開郭文貴,處委會再開也無所謂。今天的條文都很簡單。至於這個憲法23條,我剛才一再講就防止妨礙他人自由,避免其自非難,維持社會秩序,增進公共利益。這當然是法律保留嘛。 |
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翁曉筠上次在問我說我的憲法常識在哪裡,憲法總共175條,只是說條文12條,這很簡單,大家看一看都很簡單。 |
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要來當立法委員必須要有憲法及公法的常識,不是只有法律常識。法律當然是,法律是教會於我們立法委員可以做法律抽象性的修改,可以做修改。所以但是要維持在一個憲法框架底下。所以我剛才點名你說,你說人們有權與自由,我說不對,不要再有憲法,自由權第七條。 |
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後面23條還有規範,所以我今天在這地方只呼籲大家共同來遵守憲法,維護憲法,不是把憲法也破壞掉,整個體制破壞掉,民主也沒收,憲法也沒收,那臺灣就倒了。但是這個行為一直在發生,而且會越來越嚴重,控制在兩個人手上,霍文綺跟馮國昌。 |
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啊他為什麼這樣?我有空的話寫演出讓大家瞭解清楚一下。那所以今天我們很重要,像今天這行為法、意識規則,這完全沒有政治性啊。這可以進入一條案,假如你們說啊這條案不好,不然你不夠多錢保留學章或是提修那個修正案,都無所謂。這不會,這是要瞭解。 |
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我剛才一再講,婚期回來了。一再講就是說,七年大法庭統一解釋,有關林毓司那個案子,用實質影響力。所以實質影響力就是說你有這個行為,然後擴充利益衝突,就是當初的條例。條例至少5年到15年。現在大家都要很小心,當立委都要很小心,當縣市首長都要很小心。 |
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所以今天我在這裡,大家要法律、法律上的觀念。習慣本來就有啊,他們這條也有啊。但是韓社範圍是怎麼樣?定義的人是哪些人?這當然必須經過重新的定義嘛。大家請看看今天的法是在講什麼? |
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不要只有供給,尤其最後我要寄予羅志祥委員,你討論的反應很快,口才會壞,不能用歪曲。我們只要往正途走,你後面會有很大的前途,用歪曲你會撞牆,那婚期才會掉到前海裡面,你不要被犧牲掉。 |