| IVOD_ID |
151744 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151744 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-25T10:59:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-25T11:07:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:47 - 11:07:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長、法務部、原住民族委員會、內政部、衛生福利部就「就業服務法上路逾三十年，針對就業促進、歧視禁止、外國勞動力權益保障等面向進行全面檢視」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月22日、24日及25日三天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（10時59分）主席、各位委員。有請勞動力發展署蔡署長，還有原民會羅處長。 |
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主席：請蔡署長、羅處長。 |
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蔡署長孟良：委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：署長好。因為部長很辛苦，所以讓他休息。今天的報告提到就業服務法是民國81年4月17日公布施行，到現在已經30多年了，第二十四條當初只有6款，其中一款就有原住民，所以當時的立法院、當時的政府都非常重視。不僅僅這樣，「原住民」這3個字是第一次出現在中華民國的法律上，那時候憲法還沒有修，憲法是民國83年才修正，把「山胞」正名為「原住民」，所以在當時憲法還是寫山胞的時候，中華民國的法律多重視原住民立委的意見；順便說一下這個故事。 |
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現在的就業服務法第二十四條一樣有原住民的部分，就業服務法第六條也特別規定，中央主管機關應會同原住民族委員會辦理相關原住民就業服務事項，但現在勞動部一直比較努力的地方是在就業服務法的第六條第六款，這個等一下我會談，你們很努力在這個部分。 |
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羅處長，今天原民會的報告裡寫了很多，當然我們的失業率有減少，但這有很多因素，在報告中有關就業促進部分，你特別提到這麼長的這些內容，但很多其實跟今天的主題是沒有關係的。今天的主題是就業服務法上路30年了，但你寫了這一大堆，問題是很多都是新的法律才有的，譬如原住民族語言發展法，這是我在立法院推動的，然後相關的語推人員或相關的族語專職化，也都是我在立法院推動的。又譬如長期照顧服務法，這也是新的法律，我們特別請衛福部一定要弄個原住民族專章，而相關的文化健康站的推動、經費的挹注，都是我去協調的，你們在這個部分寫了一堆話，大家會以為原住民的就業已經完全沒有需要了，大家會這樣想。原民會要思考的是如何真正協助原住民，你提到我們的薪資差額還超過1萬以上，對不對？這才是你們要去努力、協調的，但今天你的報告裡有太多跟今天的主題沒有關係的部分也都放進去，像工作權保障法，這是楊仁福立法委員在立法院提案，弄了老半天才三讀通過，這個部分跟就業服務法也沒有關係。 |
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現在我們就談勞動部的部分。今年4月25日勞動部在委員會提出一份報告，其中提到「延攬外國專業人才」，上次我在這裡也質詢過；112年3月6日勞動部跨國勞動力政策協商諮詢小組召開第35次會議，會議結論是原則同意營造業引進營造移工採階段性先行開放總額8,000名，並視執行情形可增加開放至1.5萬名。請問署長，現在開放進來多少了？ |
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蔡署長孟良：跟委員報告，這個部分是內政部、國產署，這1.5萬名是以他們設定的條件去做分配，據我們的瞭解，這1.5萬名目前已經陸陸續續在核配，也接近快要核配完。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：大約多少？ |
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蔡署長孟良：人數大概1萬…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：沒關係，再回復好了。 |
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蔡署長孟良：差不多快1萬2。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：再書面提供給我好了。 |
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羅處長，原民會有沒有參加這個會議？ |
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羅處長赫踛：報告，有。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：有，所以這是一個很嚴重需要去檢討的地方。外國人從事就業服務法第四十六條第一項第八款至第十一款工作資格一再的修、一再的修，8年來修了18次，很重要的是一再放寬；放寬沒關係，但不要把原住民進用的唯一條款刪除掉！羅處長，當初開會時你們有沒有反對？還是你們沒有注意看這個條文？保障原住民的進用還是要有，因為缺工讓外國人進來，我們支持，但是不要把保障的條款拿掉，以後要再放進來不容易啊！這個部分需要原民會還有勞動部的重視，希望還是要把它修回來。羅處長，要加油啊！好不好？ |
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羅處長赫踛：是，我們再跟勞動部這邊協商。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員的發言。 |
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接下來請林淑芬委員發言。 |
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邀請勞動部部長、法務部、原住民族委員會、內政部、衛生福利部就「就業服務法上路逾三十
年，針對就業促進、歧視禁止、外國勞動力權益保障等面向進行全面檢視」進行專題報告，並備
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政天才委員發言。主席、各位委員。有請那個勞動力發展署蔡署長。還有顏明慧、何璐、羅處長。好,委員好。好,署長好。 |
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第二十四條． |
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就有當初只有6款其中一款就原住民所以當時非常當時的這個立法院當時的政府非常重視不僅僅是這樣原住民這三個字是中華民國的法律第一次出現在 |
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在法例那時候憲法還沒有修民國83年才修三包正名為原住民所以當時憲法還是寫三包的時候中華民國的法例 |
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中央主管機關應會同原住民族委員會辦理相關原住民族就業服務事項﹖ |
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就業服務法第6條現在勞動部一直比較努力的地方是在就業服務法第6條的第6款等一下我們會談你們很努力的在這個地方那園民會的報告 |
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羅處長,你的報告裡面寫了這些當然我們的失業率有減少但是這個很多的因素很多的因素這裡面你的報告裡面就業促進特別講了這些事實上你寫了這些那麼長的那麼長的跟今天的主題其實是很多都沒有關係的 |
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今天主題是就業服務法三十年然後相關的這些然後你寫了一堆這個很多都是新的法律才有的譬如說原住民族委員發展法是我在立法院推動然後相關的這個以推人員或是這個相關的這些 |
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注意專職業、專職化都是我在立法院推動的像那個長期照顧服務法也是新的法例然後我們特別請衛福部一定要那個原住民族的專章然後相關的這個文化健康站的推動經費的協調都是我去那邊協調的所以這個部分寫一堆這些 |
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這樣的話,大家會以為原住民的就業已經完全就沒有需要了。會這樣的,所以這個部分,人民會怎麼樣去協助,真正去協助。你也提到我們的薪資差額還是超過一萬以上啊。 |
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對不對?像這個怎麼去努力、去協調,這個才是一個今天你的報告裡面太多的那個跟今天的主題沒有關係的部分,所以都把它訂進去。像工作權保障法, |
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這是今年4月25日勞動部在這裡的一個報告。 |
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延攬外國專業人才。112年3月6日,勞動部跨國勞動力政策協商諮詢小組召開第35次會議。 |
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會議結論,原則同意營造業引進營造移工採階段性先行開放總額8000名,並視實際情形可增加開放至1.5萬名。請問一下署長,現在開放進來多少? |
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360.415 |
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跟委員報告因為這個部分是內政部國產署那1.5萬名是以他的設定的條件去做分配那目前據我們的瞭解他這個1萬5千名大概大概就是已經陸陸續續在合配也接近快要合配多少大約人數大概1萬人數再回覆對1萬2差不多快要接近快要接近 |
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363.701 |
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388.849 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
委員會有參加這個會議嗎?有。所以這是一個很嚴重的需要去檢討的地方。這個外國人從事就業服務法第46條第一項第8款是第11款工作資格一再的修一再的修修了18次這8年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
392.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
412.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
先入18次很重要的一再放寬我們都放寬沒有關係但是不要把原住民禁用的唯一的條款就刪除掉了你們沒有反對啊?羅處長當初開會還是你們就沒有注意看這個條 |
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414.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
428.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
就這樣保障原住民金融還是要還是要有為什麼外國人進來缺工我們支持但是不要把保障的條款以後再放進來不容易啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
429.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
450.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
所以這個部分都是需要這個人民會還有勞動部要去重視的地方。所以這個部分我是希望還是把它修回來。那個羅處長,加油。是,我們再跟勞動部這邊再做協商。好,謝謝。 |