| IVOD_ID |
151579 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151579 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-22T12:53:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-22T13:07:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5754819b6179c3363226aeca39e64e40cff82116bdf94ca8dcb4691eb09bf4e2604e01dea7a8fc515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:53:32 - 13:07:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、交通部、經濟部、內政部警政署就「噪音管制與加速推動排氣管噪音認證」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月22日、24日及25日三天一次會】） |
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主席 請張司長 |
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市長我們噪音稽查就是一件很困難的事情我們2023年全國的噪音稽查處分概況來看這全國大概有10萬件有10萬件的稽核的數大概從稽核的結果來看有5萬件是無法監測或者未發現 |
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站總案件量的五成而且因為這一些噪音的稽查案件中大概有七成六是陳情的陳情案 |
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那這樣子的話因為沒有辦法因為有民眾陳情那我們又再集合的效率來看是沒有那麼高的這個會嚴重影響人民對於政府執法的信賴所以這個無法監測跟未發現結案的原因是什麼 |
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我想跟委員報告第一個噪音本身來講它如果不是固定的機具或者是固定的場所發生出來的那這種檢舉案想要去抓得到其實難度非常高就是跑來跑去證據保存非常困難對不對對你的意思就是這樣不像空氣空氣都已經很難了噪音更難對 |
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一下子就過了嗎?對可是問題在哪裡我們知道你們有沒有解決的方法所以我們在處理事情是這樣子我們首先要先發現問題那現在知道最大的困難就在證據的保存 |
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那怎麼克服?這我想跟各位報告我現在構想裡面就是說因為噪音的量測就是你要即時量測到發生噪音很難所以有一個我們可能接下來會嘗試用大數據的方式從檢舉的地方我們用圖示的方式標出來之後哪些地方最容易在什麼時段發生噪音的 |
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事件導致沉潛我們可能我們那個設備剛剛前面有提到就我們設備有些移動式的我們就以這些點位來佈設這個做法我覺得還不錯用這種方式試試看對要不然其實沒有證據就沒有辦法處罰對不對那保存證據這麼困難我覺得這個方法可以那除了這個以外還有沒有其他的 |
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這是其中目前想到就手頭上有的資訊可以掌握到的那我另外再問一個問題就是因為我們從明年開始排氣管的噪音就列為正式的檢驗項目 對不對 |
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如果你改裝的話你需要經濟那他是必須要就是改裝排氣管的民眾可以自行委託噪音的實驗室或是地方 |
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然後明年也必須要沒有檢驗的話也必須要開罰 |
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沒有檢驗的話改裝之後沒有登記就是道交條例這邊會處罰那可是現在來看是像到今年的第一季改裝排氣管的登錄系統統計是13000那地方環保局跟實驗室已經處理的是4600 |
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整體的執行率大概只有35%目前執行率這麼低,原因是什麼?檢測的量能不夠?因為我們去年底開始決定要這樣做之後到今年其實有一段時間讓環保局去籌備所以剛開始會比較慢而且2月6日碰到過年所以那個工作天數其實是比較少目前大概30%我們估算以這個速度下去應該8月底可以消化完 |
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330.28 |
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請副署長 |
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委員好副主長好副主長因為你們很少有機會到胃環所以今天本席就跟你探討兩個有關警察人力的問題因為警察的操勤加班其實已經變成常態變成常態常態中又有另外一個病態 |
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就是警情的加班是這樣子算大概月資信奉加專業加給除以240所以假如說剛新進的行政警察他的月資信奉加專業加給除以240下來他其實不到 |
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基本工資他未達基本工資不要說加班還要算還要乘以1.33、1.66所以不算以後這個我覺得對於新進的員警太不公平了 |
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有沒有解決的辦法?感謝委員對我們基層同仁的關心啦因為事實上從我們大法官的785號的解釋有關健康前的立法旨意那我們照這個立法旨意我們定一個規定定一個辦法就是我們警察輪班輪休人員的勤休的規定的要點 |
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我知道你們這個就是根據那個要點來的嘛我現在的意思是說你們能不能把要點就是最基本的提高到最低工資啦這個已經是最 |
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跟委員報告 |
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因為對我們新進的、剛畢業的或新進的因為他的底薪比較低照剛剛委員所已經很瞭解的除以240的這些總薪資他一個小時可能172那依照我們的規定依照我們這個辦法裡面就是一個人的法定的工作的熟悉每天都要8個小時那操勤加班的操勤的熟悉每天2至4個小時 |
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那最高一個月不能操勤、操時扶勤不能超過100個小時在這個原則下我們這些年資比較淺的同仁他一個月要領到一萬九、最高一萬九他是有困難的副主長你想一個月操勤100個小時那個等於是用命在換了 |
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那用命換都換不到平均下來最低基本工資這個我覺得對於年輕的、新進的員警太殘忍好不好我知道你在這邊沒有辦法做出很完整的答覆不過我還是必須要點出來你們回去好好的做我個人覺得最少必須要用最低基本薪資、工資來計算 |
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我個人的看法最低最低啦像你們現在這個算起來才176我們剛新進的它的縫點比較低我現在的意思就是說你最少最少 |
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你想嘛,一個月加班100點鐘,那個真的是已經算是很殘忍了那他加班100個小時反而平均下來拿不到勞工的基本時薪,這個就更悲慘 |
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632.219 |
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但我們現在跟委員報告我們現在經過現在我們給112人給他統計平均分析我們的營警的操行服勤操時服勤平均差不多55個小時棚委是55.9個小時那我們的營警因為 |
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635.542 |
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我們是要兼顧我們的健康情跟任務、治安的需求來做綜合評估所以這是一個情果一致性那超時扶勤它是屬於一種補償性不是一種固定扶勤制55個小時其實就等於每天要加班超過2.5啦所以這個就是我時間到了所以我也講一下就是說我一直覺得警察的勤務呢 |
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664.924 |
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674.788 |
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越來越繁重,然後你們缺額一直不補。以澎湖縣現在來看,就是說它的編制原額要850億,那現在的預算原額只有750億。這個缺額超過10%啊。 |
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現在狀況是這樣我們的預算是751個噴霧線警察局751個那現在是683個我們現在切68個那我們的這個部分跟委員報告我們會等到我們的會今天在我們的官校或警大警大或是警專畢業或是我們定期統調的時候我們會優先來拍補噴霧線警察局的缺額 |
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副部長謝謝就是說優先把離島的缺額補滿這個概念也對啦因為在本島同一條配就是互相支援比較快速啦可是我現在講的是整體國家的警政問題啦就是說因為這個不是只有澎湖有缺是全台灣都缺啦 |
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768.926 |
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不過副部長剛剛承諾的優先把澎湖的缺額補足這個本席是跟你謝謝啦因為這個也有道理因為離島畢竟有獨立性嘛他在警力的統籌調配跟留用是跟本島有區別嘛 |
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這兩個問題我知道副組長今天沒有辦法做明確的答覆可是我還是必須要提出來因為警察我還是拿一句話就是警察的情誤其實是越來越繁重那以剛剛我們的討論 |
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謝謝楊曜委員的發言 |