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151568 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151568 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
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11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
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內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-22T12:10:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-22T12:17:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5754819b6179c336436e5d95f0da0f1697e999b50eca937cdcb4691eb09bf4e2bca3518ba49ab3a15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:10:26 - 12:17:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計8案。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關不當黨產處理委員會預算凍結書面報告案計1案。
三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。
四、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關不當黨產處理委員會預算凍結書面報告案計2案。） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（12時10分）主席、各位委員。有請秘書長。 |
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主席：請秘書長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：還有負責少子女化的處。 |
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李秘書長孟諺：委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：恭喜到隔壁的交通部。 |
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少子女化對策在今天行政院的報告裡面提到「本院已建立跨部會運作機制」，是怎麼樣的運作機制？業務單位要不要說明一下？ |
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吳處長靜如：現在是由林政務委員召開11個部會的平臺會議。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：事實上，我質詢過衛福部很多次了，應該在行政院要成立少子女化辦公室，而不是在衛福部成立，應該是在行政院要成立少子女化辦公室，因為少子女化非常非常地嚴重，是不是國安問題？秘書長。 |
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李秘書長孟諺：是，我想確實已經是整個國家最重要、目前要去面對的問題。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們看臺灣出生的人數，非常非常嚴重地溜滑梯，看這個人口數的話，95年是二十萬四千四百多，到去（112）年是十三萬五千多，真的是嚴重溜滑梯！所以這個既然是一個非常嚴重的國安問題，但是行政院卻沒有一個少子女化辦公室。 |
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請問一下，你是副處長還是處長？ |
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吳處長靜如：處長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：綜規處，是不是？ |
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吳處長靜如：不是，是教文處的處長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：你是教育部喔？ |
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吳處長靜如：教文處。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：院的？ |
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吳處長靜如：對，現在院裡面是由林政務委員邀集教育部跟衛福部等等11個部會來召開會議…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，我知道。我們看你們這邊寫的都是衛福部跟教育部的一些補助啦！教育部的報告也是，連設2歲的專班都設得很少啊！我也質詢過教育部2歲的專班。時間的關係，因為我們的委員要去搭高鐵了。廣設完善的托嬰中心，免費托嬰，這個是衛福部的，但是這個一定要有行政院的支持、協調，最主要是經費，對不對？一定要有經費，廣設完善的托嬰中心，免費托嬰。第二，增設2歲的專班，廣設完善的托幼機構，而且要免費的托幼。既然是國安的問題，就應該要非常非常地重視，所有經費的投入都應該。 |
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我要請秘書長還有處長具體地提出建議。我也是公務員，我是30年公務員了，我常常會提出具體的建議。我舉一個例子，我當中央原民會副主委的時候，我提出什麼呢？租屋補助喔！我在原民會的時候提出租屋補助，經建會的副主委就是現在的政務委員張景森，當時看到中央原民會所提的租屋補助的計畫，他很訝異，租房子還要補助？我做詳細的說明之後，他接受了我的建議，所以租屋補助是從都會區的原住民開始的，實施3年之後，內政部認為這個政策不錯，不能只有原住民，應該全部不分族群都要有租屋補助，是這樣來的。所以公務人員很重要，要做詳細的分析、說明、建議。 |
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剛才是舉了一個我過去的例子。我就舉不是我的例子，是大家的例子。民國57年中華民國政府開始實施9年國教，對不對？本來是6年的國教、義務教育，推行9年國教，民國57年喔！第一個，財政沒有現在那麼好，非常地拮据，那時候還是要反攻大陸的年代啊！對不對？國防為主、為優先啊！但是為了教育，當時的政府推行9年國教，不只是經費的問題，連教室都沒有，對不對？興建教室要花多少錢啊？免費讓這些國小畢業的全部都可以念國中，要花很多的錢。然後也沒有師資啊！也要找師資，在這樣一個艱困的年代，都可以去執行9年國教。 |
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所以我要請處長好好地寫資料，提供給未來的秘書長、給未來的行政院長，也就是卓榮泰院長，來作為一個施政的重要政策。以上，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員的質詢。 |
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登記發言的委員除不在場之外，其餘均已發言完畢，質詢結束。委員王美惠所提書面質詢列入紀錄，刊登公報。書面質詢及未答復部分，請相關單位一週內以書面答復，並副知本會。 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計 8案；二、處理113年度中
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總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案；四、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關不當黨
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行政院有請秘書長,還有負責掃紙擬化的哪個處。行政院今天的報告恭喜到隔壁。掃紙擬化對策。 |
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這個這邊報告裡面提到本院已建立跨部會運作機制是怎麼樣的運作機制那個業務單位要不要說明一下現在是由那個林鄭委員他召開11個部會的這樣子的一個平台的會議這個事實上我質詢過衛福部很多次 |
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應該在行政院要成立少子擬化辦公室而不是在衛福部成立應該是在行政院要成立少子擬化辦公室因為少子擬化非常非常的嚴重是不是國安問題那個秘書長是我想確實已經是整個國家最重要目前要去面對的問題我們看這個台灣出生的人數 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 glimp 1、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 glimp 2、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 glimp 3、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 glimp 4、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 glimp 4、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 glimp 4、處理113年度中央政府總預算� |
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行政院竟然沒有一個少子女化辦公室。請問一下你是副處長還是處長? |
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教育部、教文部、教育部、教育部、教育部、教育部、教育部 |
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教育部的報告也是連我們兩歲的射磚班都受的很少我也質詢過教育部兩歲的磚班很具體的時間的關係因為那個還有我們的我也要去搭高鐵了廣設完善的拖音中心 |
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免費拖音這個是衛福部的但是這個一定要有行政院的支持協調這主要是經費對不對經費一定要有經費廣設完善的拖音中心免費拖音第二 |
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三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。breviation of Procedure of Procedure of Procedure of Procedure |
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提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議提出建議 |
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競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會副主委競建會 |
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實施3年之後內政部認為這個政策不錯不能只有原住民應該全部不分族群都要有租屋補助是這樣來的所以公務人員很重要你要做詳細的分析說明建議好我就舉一個過去的例子剛才是舉了一個例子我過去我們就舉不是我 |
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340.359 |
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不是我的例子是大家的例子民國57年中華民國政府開始實施9年國教對不對本來是6年的國教義務教育推行9年國教民國57年喔第一個財政沒有現在再那麼好非常的拮据那時候還是要反攻大陸的年代啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
342.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
363.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
國防為主為優先啊但是為了教育當時的政府推行9年國教不只是經費的問題啊連教室都沒有啊對不對要新建教室要花多少錢啊免費要讓這些國小畢業全部都可以念國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
369.266 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
396.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne四、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne四、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne四、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne四、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne四、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne四、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
399.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
399.239 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
以上。謝謝。 |