| IVOD_ID |
151353 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151353 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-36-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-18T09:29:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-18T09:34:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/566e821c95e2b4454bd9a218d1477074f81d0e85270258c9c5dab72e655c1c941fefedc7491e725d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
柯建銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:29:03 - 09:34:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查
一、民進黨黨團擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法第十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、委員呂玉玲等16人擬具「立法院職權行使法增訂第二十八條之三及第二十八條之四條文草案」案。
四、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等19人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」案。
五、委員翁曉玲等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」案。） |
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主席、各位委員,剛才國民黨的委員所發言的,不管孫一鳳、林世民等所發言的,都在自證其罪。各位要了解立法院的意思規則很清楚。同一性質相同的,就是說我們都很清楚。 |
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第一個,立法委員提案的時候往往有先後次序的落差。因為行政院先公告以後,立法院就來把這個行政院預公告法案就來稍微調整以後送進來。 |
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而又行政進來以後有來不及趕快又稍微調整又送進來所以常常有很多的落差這為什麼?為了公眾能力上在檢查各位提案數而已這是不可說的秘密那通常碰到這個情形,大家有時候會互相稍微斷解要查詢,查詢人家出去,到最後在院會叫做病人審查,就是如此 |
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那所謂議事規則的規定,相同的不要再審,沒有問題。那差一點有一半以上啊,本來就再審啊。法案審查什麼時候,說我一個前面的書記,後面的不能再來。修正條文不同,有不同案子啊。雖然案名長得一樣,但修正條文不同,當然可以審啊。 |
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這道理自明嘛所以我委員你也在司法及法制委員會司法及法制委員會從來沒有說法案排案的專屬性的問題他都要接續排案嘛那這個哪一條哪一個法 |
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然而這些修法或是立法院所謂的法案法律條文裡面兩次就有寫出什麼時候有規定,還要你讓我先掛號,以後大家都不會再動了。這種不可能的事情,這是不合常態,而且不會發生的。所以大家要了解立法院運作是一個非常成熟的機制,這麼多年來該改的都改了。但是呢,我希望就是說你們自己要冷靜想一想, |
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當然很簡單我的解讀很簡單就是你要強行通過然後在委員會禁止發言嘛那你自己的提案也不說明嘛一路演演你要過去嘛都讓外界看不到聲音嘛然後說出委員會那一路蓋牌嘛蔡偉鄉的時候你們特許就說都反對反對嘛然後在FNC表決FNC表決你又想要你國會都是不能禁止民進黨發言 |
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這個東西一路蓋牌到底啊,這天下在做荒謬的過失啊。啊你自己講的楊某很清楚啊,在五年以前要通過嘛,要找那些親和來,那些總統來做國情報告,要急問急答嘛,還要書面報告,這可得嗎?這違憲了嘛,你們這次在建政中途嘛。 |
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五二年以後,新的行政院長兩月份來愛博,做市政報啊。市政報,市政報三天前來,你又有總統來背刑,又有行政院長背刑,這是我們憲法體制嗎?我們憲法體制根本不是這一套嘛。總統是明顯的啊。那憲法體制當然就是說,總統,行政院,有七條規定很清楚啊。憲法有七條規定很清楚啊。行政院是國家重要行政機關。 |
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那先往上海規定六、三條規定六案可以議決的東西那意義上法律案、條案等等嘛先往上海說給你們潛力就是如此嘛 |
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那代表香港第四條規定很清楚總統得來嘛做國情報告啦但是沒有急問急答到底是要問總統還是問行政院長 想得準那總統還可以提他 提孫文達夫有這樣的憲政體制嗎 你要想一想那總統不會衝不會走嘛市縣長也不會過嘛 |
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大家很清楚,這整個憲法的規定很清楚。你對於行政院首屬的政策法,你還可以提服役啊。啊不然接下來就是什麼?你提不希望倒閣嗎?沒有所謂的官員不可以反諮詢,這些東西等一下我們大家要談。所以各位這種荒謬的一刻,你怕再演出來嗎?但是你今天你和組黨、民進黨不討論嗎? |
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而你們副總召就趕快叫來押正吧所以各位歷史在看到你們所有過過的過程大家都會檢視的因為反正在法案審查有這樣的出道過嗎所以很絶大衝突才沒有辦法審究到才有長期在談 |
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我們一直展現的要用論述好好跟你談,你不要以為我們完全都是蜿蜒相欠,都是遷移原則,那你們做完那一排完全不講話,我想國安委員他自己在國會已經很清楚,他也當過國會議員,你們這邊有多當過啊?那羅志強你自己的版本被對包你有沒有意見?這個都是很奇怪的現象。 |
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這荒謬,這荒謬而已。那你今天,我們在主管講從那個角度,你只要能夠屬於我們,我們可以接受。 |