| IVOD_ID |
151240 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151240 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-17T10:13:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-17T10:25:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cfb4b12132f01627961cdfcfd7573b21b57f63d1b53b7532c5dab72e655c1c94af8d720157a301b45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱鎮軍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:13:27 - 10:25:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、經濟部、行政院國家永續發展委員會就「限塑政策執行成效，及家戶與一般事業廢棄物減量之檢討與策進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月15日及17日二天一次會】） |
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邱委員鎮軍：（10時13分）我們一樣有請薛部長。 |
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主席：好，請薛部長。 |
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薛部長富盛：邱委員好。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：部長好。我想請問一下，你接任環境部將近八個月了吧？ |
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薛部長富盛：是。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：您自認對於我們環境部的業務是不是非常熟悉？ |
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薛部長富盛：不敢說細節也都很熟悉，但是大方向跟一些政策面來講…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：我想部長站在這邊，您說過的話會負責任嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：當然負責任。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：當然負責任？ |
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薛部長富盛：對。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我請問一下，上次我在這邊問您的時候，有關民營電廠有納入收取碳費的機制，這個答復明顯跟我們的母法規定不符，請問部長是刻意誤導本席，還是對業務不熟悉？ |
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薛部長富盛：不曉得是跟哪一個部分的母法不符合？ |
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邱委員鎮軍：看一下。 |
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（播放影片） |
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邱委員鎮軍：部長，看到了嘛！我們電力業不收碳費，這個是母法的規定，根據氣候變遷因應法第二十八條第二項規定，是由實際用電者的企業付費，而非電力業，你上次答詢的是錯誤的，對吧？ |
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薛部長富盛：假如邱委員認為我的答詢錯誤，那就在這邊道歉，把它修改為正確的地方。因為就執行面來講…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：你剛剛說你負責任，所以我講真的，官員在這邊答詢的時候，我希望你們對於你們的業務都能夠更瞭解，不要誤導我們大眾，不要讓所有官員有這種投機的心態，可以嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：因為我剛才不曉得邱委員提到我講錯的地方是哪個地方…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：好，我們回到問題本身。本席認為台電因為配合政策賠錢經營，具有不收碳費的合理性…… |
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薛部長富盛：不是，這個跟包括調漲、包括台電提供電費，那個應該是沒有關係。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我現在講的是碳費。 |
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薛部長富盛：是，瞭解。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：民營電廠都是靠台電賺大錢，不收碳費豈不是鼓勵他們不用努力減少碳排，違反公平原則與減碳的目標？所以本席再次要求環境部與經濟部應該要積極檢討，將民營電廠納入碳費的收取對象。我為什麼要這樣講？雖然是使用者付費，而民營電廠發了電之後是賣給台電，對不對？台電是以市價跟它買，對不對？但是台電再轉給其他用電戶的時候，不一定都是台積電，不一定都是…… |
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薛部長富盛：好。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：你懂我意思嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：邱委員，我大概瞭解您的意思了，我們來檢討一下…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：因為我算了一下，每年大概將近有300億，如果這樣算，他們的利潤多了三百億，將近四成。 |
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薛部長富盛：好，這個我們來檢討一下，看看是不是有一些漏洞的地方。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：好。第二個，除了答詢有剛剛的那些錯誤之外，這次的書面報告，你們也主動更正有3處的錯誤，最離譜的，我看到的是第20頁，把111年塑膠容器回收率80%標示成93%，當然這個數字你們也改了，我現在講的這部分，我想請問部長，除了這3個改過的之外，還有其他錯誤嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：目前應該還沒有發現。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我來跟你講，好不好？ |
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薛部長富盛：好。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我發現你們的報告內容還有許多錯誤，就以第15頁家戶垃圾統計來說，竟然出現30處的數據與環境部環境統計查詢網的資料有重大的差距。我們看一下圖，你們標示的，從89年開始是48萬公噸，可是你們網站上登記的是85萬公噸；90年58萬公噸，你們登記58萬公噸，可是網站上查到是105萬公噸。 |
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薛部長富盛：105萬公噸應該是回收量的這條線。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：不是，你們是有兩套的數據嗎？為什麼公布的跟你們在網站上的不一樣？ |
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薛部長富盛：這個我請同仁來check一下，好不好？跟邱委員講的…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：對，就以你們給我們的PTT，對不對？這是你們的資料嘛！ |
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薛部長富盛：對啊，這是我們的數據啊！ |
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邱委員鎮軍：為什麼會這樣呢？ |
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賴署長瑩瑩：跟委員報告，我們這是用我們統計的報表…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：所以你們的統計跟公布的是不一樣的？ |
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賴署長瑩瑩：因為可能有時候在欄位的計算上面…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：我怎麼算都不對啊！你怎麼跳都不對啊！你跟我講欄位？ |
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薛部長富盛：我們再來…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：錯了，我們就承認啦，好不好？我們不要一直在找理由，也不要用這個來誤導我們大眾，好不好？ |
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薛部長富盛：好，這個要應該一致，這邊的資料跟我們網站上的資料要一致，我認同。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：所以我希望環境部這邊要拴緊螺絲，好不好？光這樣的報告都出現這麼多的錯誤，這怎麼跟國人交代？ |
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薛部長富盛：OK，瞭解。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：第二個問題，針對限塑的政策，購物用塑膠袋限制使用的對象、實施方式及實施的日期公告至14類之場所。請問環境部，未來會不會考量增加公有市場、攤販集中場也要納入實施？ |
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薛部長富盛：事實上那個是重點，但是因為那個也跟民眾生活息息相關，所以那塊真的推的速度就很慢。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我這樣講啦，這個東西因為影響也非常大。我希望環境部能夠分短、中、長期來進行。 |
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薛部長富盛：是，有。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：違反公告的規定，當然也要訂定適當的緩衝期，不要讓我們的業者跟消費者反彈太大，好不好？ |
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薛部長富盛：特別是傳統市場這一塊。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：另外，對於網際網路零售業包裝減量，有將博客來、燦坤等零售業者納入管制，對吧？ |
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薛部長富盛：有。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：但零售服務平臺業者卻沒有納管，例如蝦皮、淘寶，這些反而是民眾使用最多的網路購物平臺，請問這個什麼時候要納入強制規範？ |
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薛部長富盛：我記得這塊應該有跟他們合作啊！有啊！ |
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邱委員鎮軍：已經納入了嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：剛剛邱委員講的蝦皮、淘寶、momo，應該都有…… |
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邱委員鎮軍：都有納入，是嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：都有。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我再請問部長，現在各縣市政府垃圾的焚化廠，每次遇到歲修或整改期都會面臨處理量不足，排擠到事業廢棄物，請問環境部如何落實可燃性的事業廢棄物分類、分流、清理？又如何增加可燃性事業廢棄物的處理量能？ |
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薛部長富盛：可燃性的事業廢棄物，事實上我們一直有用固體再生燃料這一塊在做，但是以往的精神，事實上是後端使用之後的空氣品質管制，這些年來我們發現的確會有一些業者在這裡面混雜一些東西，所以我們現在把它拉到源頭管制，我們在SRF這一塊已經跟歐盟一樣，去做產品的分類，大概分成五級，這些廠商將來要生產SRF的製造，除了書面資料之外，我們還要到現場去勘察，在試車的時候還要再到現場去看，所以由一道手續書面審查變成三道手續，我想未來應該會改善。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：這樣就可以增加可燃性事業廢棄物的處理量能？ |
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薛部長富盛：會改善，因為它畢竟是一個資源。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：好，我希望加快啦！好不好？ |
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薛部長富盛：好，謝謝。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：另外，針對營建廢棄物的處理，我們應該確保分流的管理。 |
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薛部長富盛：是。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：請問是否能加強要求工地加裝監視器？ |
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薛部長富盛：這個已經在做了。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：另外，目前載運廢棄物的車輛都有要求必須全數裝設GPS嘛？ |
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薛部長富盛：對，沒錯。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：為何載運廢土的車輛卻沒有要求要加裝？ |
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薛部長富盛：剛剛講到營建廢棄物、剩餘土石方這一塊，都是內政部主管，他們已經在處理了，我們事實上有一個平臺。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：你們可以橫向交流，因為它亂倒，還是影響環境，不對嗎？對不對？我說它如果亂倒的話，還是會影響您的業務嘛。 |
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薛部長富盛：廢棄物的這部分還是環境部主責。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：我是希望你們橫向溝通要做好。 |
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薛部長富盛：好，事實上我們有一個平臺。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：最後，我再給你們建議，聯合國預計2024年完成全球塑膠公約，環境部雖持續滾動檢討各項源頭的減量措施…… |
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薛部長富盛：是，我今天早上有提到的，對。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：逐步減少塑膠使用，但應同步調查塑膠原物料是否因此減少，透過調查才可以瞭解我們產品塑膠量的使用多寡，逐步達成淘汰一次性塑膠材料的目的。生物分解的塑膠雖然是目前可行之替代方案，但目前並無獨立回收的管道，若混入一般塑膠，反而會讓資源回收塑膠類這部分大幅地…… |
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薛部長富盛：對，會造成困擾，沒錯。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：因此，我建議針對生物可分解的塑料，應規劃使用後回收的配套措施，好不好？ |
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薛部長富盛：好，謝謝邱委員。 |
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邱委員鎮軍：最後一個，針對碳費我也提出兩點建議，我們降低碳費開徵對產業的衝擊，政府應明訂碳費優惠費率，設定達分級減量的目標，如應參考耗水費前3年減半徵收，以及參考水污費第1年減少50%、第2年60%徵收、第3年70%徵收、第4年80%徵收、第5年90%徵收，是不是第5年全額來徵收，這是我第一個建議。第二個，依國家階段管制目標或政府目標，設定產業整體減碳目標，並設定逐年階段減量目標，達成每年目標者即能適用優惠費率，減量達一定比例但未達目標者亦設有優惠費率，這是本席的建議，也希望環境部能夠參考，好不好？謝謝部長。 |
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薛部長富盛：好，謝謝邱委員的建議，我們事實上已經朝著這個方向在做了。 |
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主席：謝謝邱鎮軍委員的質詢。等一下陳瑩委員發言結束之後，休息5分鐘。 |
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現在請涂權吉委員發言。 |
| gazette.agenda.page_end |
422 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-1-26-12 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
王育敏 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
陳菁徽 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
陳昭姿 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
林月琴 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
廖偉翔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
盧縣一 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
邱鎮軍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
涂權吉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
王正旭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
陳瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
牛煦庭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
林淑芬 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
黃秀芳 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
張雅琳 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
洪申翰 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
蔡易餘 |
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劉建國 |
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陳冠廷 |
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楊曜 |
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蘇清泉 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請環境部部長、經濟部、行政院國家永續發展委員會就「限塑政策執行成效，及家戶與一般事
業廢棄物減量之檢討與策進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
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好 我們一樣有請薛部長好 請薛部長邱文好部長好我想請問一下你接任環境部將近8個月了吧是您自論對於我們環境部的業務是不是非常的熟悉不敢說這個細節也都很熟悉但是大方向 |
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那我想部長您站在這邊您說過的話會負責任嗎當然負責任那我請問一下上次我在這邊問您的時候民營電廠有納入收費收取碳費的一個機制這個答覆明顯是跟我們的母法規定不符 |
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請問部長是刻意誤導本席還是對業務不熟悉?跟母法不曉得跟哪一個部分的母法不符合我看到我們的報告裡面是寫說我們的店內是 |
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臺電的電廠那個要臺電的電廠要嗎?對對對所以臺電的不用?是因為這個 |
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我們電力業不收碳費這個是母法的規定根據氣候變遷運營法第28條規定是由實際用電者的企業付費而非電力業你上次答詢的是錯誤的對吧 |
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假如邱鎮軍認為我的答詢錯誤那就在這邊道歉就把它修改為正確的地方所以嘛你剛剛說你負責任所以我講真的就是說我們官員在這邊答詢的時候我希望你們把你們的業務都能夠更了解不要誤導我們大眾讓我們有這樣的一個所有官員有這種投機的一個心態可以嗎 |
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我們回到問題本身本席認為臺電因為配合政策賠錢經營具有不收碳費的合理性不是,這個跟包括條長包括臺電提供電費那個應該是沒有關係我現在講是碳費民營電廠都是靠臺電賺大錢不收碳費豈不是鼓勵他們不用努力減少碳排 |
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違反公平原則與減碳的目標所以本席再次要求我們環境部與經濟部應該要積極檢討將民營電廠納入碳費的收取對象我為什麼要這樣講就是說雖然是使用者付費那我們民營電廠的電他的發電發了之後是賣給台電的對不對台電是以市價跟他買 |
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但是台電在轉給其他的用電戶的時候不一定都是台積電你懂我意思嗎?因為我算了一下這個每年大概將近有300億如果這樣的話他們的利潤多了300億將近10成好不好?好 |
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第二個我們除了答詢剛剛的那些錯誤之外這是個書面報告你們也主動地更正了有三頁三處的錯誤最離譜的我看到的是第20頁把111年塑膠容器回收率80%標示成93%這個數字當然你們也改了那我現在講的這部分除了我想請問部長除了這三個之外改過的之外還有其他錯誤嗎 |
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目前應該還沒有發現那我來跟你講好不好我發現我們的報告內容還有許多錯誤就以第15頁家戶垃圾統計來說竟然出現30處的數據與環境部環境統計查詢網的資料有重大的差距我們看一下圖你們標示像第一個89我們從89年開始4848 |
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可是你們登記的,網站上登記的是8590年58到105,你們登記58可是網站上查到的是105105應該是回收量的這條線啦不是,這個你們是有兩套的數據嗎?為什麼公布的跟你們這個網站上的不一樣勒? |
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這個我請同仁來check一下好不好,跟邱文講的對,就以你們給我們的PPT嘛,對不對,這是你們的資料嘛對啊,這是我們的數據啊那為什麼會這樣呢?這是我們用...各位同仁報告,我們這是用我們的統計的報表所以你們的統計跟公布的是不一樣的?因為可能有時候在欄位的那個計算上面怎麼算都不對啊,你怎麼挑都不對啊,你跟我講欄位 |
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錯了我們就承認啦好不好我們不要一直在找理由也不要用這個誤導我們大眾好不好應該要一致啦這邊的資料跟我們網站上的資料要一致我認同所以我希望環境部這邊啦就是說我希望你們螺絲鬆緊好不好光這樣的報告都出現這麼多的錯誤這怎麼跟國人交代OK了解 |
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那第二個問題就是我們針對這個限塑的政策購物用塑膠袋限制使用的對象實施方式及實施的日期公告這14類之場所請問環境部未來會不會考量增加公有市場攤販集中市場集中場的攤販也要納入事實上那個是重點 |
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但是因為那個也牽涉到跟民眾的生活息息相關所以那我希望環境部這邊能夠分短中長期來進行違反公告的規定當然也要訂定適當的一個緩衝期不要讓我們的業者跟消費者的反彈特別是傳統市場的這一塊 |
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另外對於網際網路零售業包裝減量有將伯克萊、燦坤等零售業者納入管制對吧?但零售服務平台業者卻沒有納管例如我們的蝦皮、淘寶這些反而是民眾使用最多的網路購物平台請問這個什麼時候要納入常識規範? |
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現在各縣市的政府垃圾的焚化場每次遇到稅修或整改期都會面臨處理量不足,排擠到事業廢棄物請問環境部如何落實可燃性的事業廢棄物分類分流清理 |
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又如何增加可燃性事業廢棄物的處理量呢?可燃性的事業廢棄物事實上我們一直有用固體再增燃料這一塊在做但是以往的精神事實上是後端的使用之後的空氣品質的管制 |
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那這些年來我們發現的確會有一些業者這裡面混雜一些東西所以我們現在把它拉到源頭管制我們在SRF這一塊已經要跟歐盟一樣去做產品的分類大概分成五級 |
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那落實這些廠商他將來要生產SRF製造他除了書面資料之外我們還要到現場去看查然後試車的時候還要再去現場去看所以有一道手續書面審查變成三道手續 |
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這樣就可以增加可燃性事業廢棄物的處理量嗎?那我只希望加快啦好不好那另外針對我們營建廢棄物的處理我們應該確保分流的管理嘛那請問是否能加強要求工地加裝監視器 |
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這個已經在做了目前載運廢棄物的車輛都有要求必須全數裝設GPS那為何載運廢土的車輛卻沒有要求要加裝 |
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給邱鎮軍報告,內政部因為剛剛講到營建廢棄物、剩餘土石方這一塊都是這個內政部這個……你們可以橫向交流嘛,因為他亂到還是影響環境啊,不對嗎?對不對? |
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拜託! |
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聯合國預計2024年完成全球塑膠公約環境部雖持續滾動檢討各項源頭的減量措施逐步減少塑膠使用但應調同步查 |
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﹚邱鎮 |
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並無獨立回收的管道若混入一般塑膠反而會讓資源回收塑膠類部分這個部分會造成困擾沒錯所以因此我建議針對生物可分解的塑料應規劃使用或回收的一個配套的措施好不好 |
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最後一個就是我們針對碳費我也提出兩點建議我們降低這個碳費開徵對產業的衝擊政府應明定碳費優惠的費率設定達分級減量的一個目標如應參考耗水費前前三年 |
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檢辦徵收以及參考水務費第一年減少50%第二年60%徵收第三年70%徵收第四年80%徵收第五年90%徵收至第五年全額來徵收這是我第一個建議那第二個依國家階段管制目標或政府目標設定產業整體減碳的一個目標並設定逐年 |
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結斷減量目標．達成每年目標者即能適用優惠費率然後減量達一定比例但未達目標者亦設有優惠的一個費率這個是我的建議本期的建議那也希望我們環境部能夠參考好不好好謝謝邱鎮軍的建議我們事實上是已經朝著這個方向在做了好謝謝好謝謝邱鎮軍委員的 |