| IVOD_ID |
151003 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151003 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-22-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
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| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-10T12:46:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-10T12:52:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:46:19 - 12:52:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請教育部列席就「『擴大幼兒教保公共化』成效及未來策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。（4月10日及11日二天一次會）） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（12時46分）主席、各位委員，有請次長。 |
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主席：有請林次長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：次長好。 |
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林次長明裕：委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：臺灣的出生人數溜滑梯，而且非常嚴重的溜滑梯，怎麼樣去解決少子女化的問題，而且是國安的問題，無論是從衛福部負責的一出生的嬰兒到教育部負責的幼兒，都要整體去考量、去推動，出生人數真的是越來越少，政府就必須要主動的去解決這個國安問題。當然教育部也做了很多的推動，固然沒有錯，光這個數字看起來很好，但是這個沒有去計算，因為出生人數也減少，你固然做了很多的事情，所以有這樣一個數字，2歲至國小前幼兒入園率達81%，其中2歲達51%，這個部分固然有努力，但是如果加上幼兒人數不斷的減少，其實這個比例是還要再減少的，所以這個部分還有很多需要努力的地方。 |
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從這樣的一個報告裡面，我不曉得，你會後再提供給我數字資料，因為時間的關係。 |
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林次長明裕：好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：針對前瞻基礎建設校園社區化改造計畫（含營造友善的育兒空間）這個部分，請會後再提供為什麼花蓮、臺東沒有。 |
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林次長明裕：縣市當時沒有提出申請。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，是不是確實是這樣，還是沒有通過，我要瞭解一下。 |
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林次長明裕：好，我們確認一下。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：是審查沒有通過，還是怎麼樣，還是他沒有提報。興建公共化幼兒園也是一樣，也許是因為空教室很多。 |
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林次長明裕：對，他的需求量可能…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：按照剛才鍾佳濱委員所建議的，善用了學校的空間，一般公立學校當然會自己做，但是一般民間很少往學校去做，所以這個部分是要努力，一定要去加強執行，甚至給他免費的去使用，都應該啊！這個部分請教育部積極的去處理。 |
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像2歲專班要去加強，從托嬰，那是衛福部負責的，我上禮拜應該是前幾天，禮拜一的時候跟勞動部講，托嬰的部分你要想辦法，當然他願意自己照顧，我們也支持，但尤其現在缺工很嚴重，怎麼樣讓他能夠很放心地全部免費托嬰，有很好的環境，也是一樣，2歲以後，有這樣的一個專班，我們所有家長都能夠很放心地給準公共化去做，對不對？而且如果能夠免費更好啊！ |
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我們回顧民國57年開始，九年國教嘛！民國57年那時候的經濟環境跟現在差很多喔！但是當時的政府為了提升教育，照樣實施。我們現在應該就是這樣，2歲以上就全部免費，往這個方向努力，這是政府應該做的責任，可以嗎？往這個方向去努力。 |
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林次長明裕：的確，當時基於國民教育普及化，廣設國中，那時候投入很多的資源。目前對於幼兒教育部分所布建的資源也不少於當下，我們每年大概有六百億在這方面做努力了。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：當時沒有國安、少子女化的問題。 |
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林次長明裕：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：現在是少子女化、國安的問題，更要做！就是往這方向努力去做，好不好？ |
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林次長明裕：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：全部免費啦！謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員。 |
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接下來請楊瓊瓔委員。 |
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主席 各位委員 有請次長好 有請林次長好 次長好 台灣的出生人數 溜滑梯而且非常的嚴重的溜滑梯這樣的一個人數 怎麼樣去解決少子女化的問題而且是國安的問題 |
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所以無論是從衛福部的一出生嬰兒到變成教育部的幼兒都要整體的去考量去推動這樣的一個出生的人數真的是越來越少政府就必須要去主動的去解決這個國安的問題 |
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當然教育部也做了很多的推動固然沒有錯光這個數字看起來很好這個數字但是這個沒有去計算因為出生人數也減少對不對出生人數也減少然後你的固然你做了很多的事情所以這個有這樣的一個數字 |
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所以從這樣的一個報告裏面 |
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法定人數不足 |
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針對這個全山基礎建設校園設計畫改造計畫這個部分含營造友善的育兒空間會後再提供為什麼花蓮台東沒有他當時沒有提出申請是不是確實是這樣還是沒有通過我要了解一下是審查沒有通過還是怎麼樣還是他沒有提報這個也是一樣新建公共化育兒園也許他是因為 |
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李卓人議員 |
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請教育部列席 |
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我上禮拜在應該是前幾天啊禮拜一的時候跟衛福部講啊 勞動部講啊你托嬰的部分啊你要想辦法而不是讓他去當然他願意去那個那個叫什麼這個自己照顧當然我們要支持但是如果尤其是切工很嚴重啊 |
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主席主席主席 |
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回顧民國57年之前民國57年開始九年國教對不對民國57年那時候的經濟環境是多麼的跟現在差很多但是當時的政府為了提升教育這樣實施我們現在應該就是這樣 |
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連二兩歲以上就全部免費往往這方向去努力這個是政府應該要做的責任可以嗎往這方向去努力 |
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的確當時基於國民教育普及化廣設國中那時候投入很多的資源目前對於幼兒教育的部分所佈建的資源也不少於當下我們每年大概有600億在這方面做努力我來說當時沒有國安少子女化的問題 |
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MING PAO CANADA // MING PAO TORONTO |