| IVOD_ID |
150962 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150962 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-10T10:06:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-10T10:19:56+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/871d5246fb87948e63a348c032e1333a41a30a144cce7a10f8ba9b0039caa7a66ebae552e9886ffc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:06:19 - 10:19:56 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「所得稅法」12案：
(一) 審查本院委員羅明才等23人擬具「所得稅法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 審查本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員馬文君等16人、委員魯明哲等23人、委員謝龍介等20人、委員賴士葆等17人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員林德福等21人、委員楊瓊瓔等16人、委員賴士葆等28人、委員王正旭等17人分別擬具「所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案」等11案。【本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員賴士葆等28人及委員王正旭等17人提案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
二、審查「加值型及非加值型營業稅法」4案：
(一) 行政院函請審議「加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員黃捷等17人、委員吳宗憲等18人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第八條條文修正草案」等3案。【本院委員黃捷等17人及委員吳宗憲等18人提案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
【11日下午2時止，4月10日及11日二天一次會，僅詢答】） |
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賴委員士葆：（10時6分）謝謝主席，以及各位先進。有請財政部的莊部長。 |
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主席：請莊部長。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員好！ |
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賴委員士葆：部長早安！今天早上總統府公布新內閣的名單，還沒有看到財政部長耶！ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，我因為來這邊，所以我也不知道，大概昨天從媒體上有看到。 |
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賴委員士葆：你有沒有接到電話？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分我想對我來說是把現在工作做好。 |
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賴委員士葆：所以如果電話來，你就義不容辭？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個不做任何預設。 |
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賴委員士葆：還沒有辦法回答這個問題？ |
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莊部長翠雲：沒辦法回答。 |
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賴委員士葆：但是心裡會期待喔？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我想個人的去留並不重要，我把現在的工作做好…… |
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賴委員士葆：每天等電話喔？ |
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莊部長翠雲：不會。 |
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賴委員士葆：沒有這樣子？ |
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莊部長翠雲：沒有、沒有…… |
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賴委員士葆：沒有守著電話？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我就是把工作做好。 |
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賴委員士葆：電話還要用放大器，不然，怕聽不到。 |
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好，我們來看，0403大地震的財損，你們有提到明年可以列舉扣除，但是我查了一下，從民國87年開始，我們的財產損失是15萬元，對吧！15萬？多少錢？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，15萬元，財產損失。 |
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賴委員士葆：署長搖頭耶！署長搖頭，不是，來講多少錢？ |
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宋署長秀玲：報告委員，對於災害損失，如果實際有受損，我們是沒有限額限制的…… |
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賴委員士葆：我知道，但是15萬以內書審啦！ |
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宋署長秀玲：對，重大災區，他可以由里長…… |
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賴委員士葆：15萬以內書審，15萬以上你就要再實地查核幹什麼的，我講書審的部分…… |
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宋署長秀玲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：沒有限制，對啦！我現在就問你一個問題，到目前為止，財政部有沒有接到指示，要提0403的震災特別條例，有沒有？ |
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莊部長翠雲：目前沒有。 |
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賴委員士葆：沒有？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：如果有的話，你們預估大概會多少錢？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我想這個部分我們各個部會其實在這幾天一直都提出相關的一些措施，就有儘快、儘速的去做，目前來說，透過我們的公股行庫，還有金融事業，有一些比較寬的措施的處理，對於民眾受到災損，在稅制的部分，我們的國稅局在這幾天也都主動去做輔導…… |
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賴委員士葆：這裡面的不是只有災損而已，現在來講的話，包括有的房子不能住，要補強，他可能要去找臨時住的地方，也不能每天住飯店，也住不起，所以我們可以看到921的時候特別預算歲出額度是1,000億，但是是25年前的1,000億，現在來講的話，我就不知道這個帳應該怎麼算。我就問你比較具體的，因為5月份要報稅了，受災戶報稅時間可不可以往後延？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分，目前來說，第一個、民眾可以在5月份裡面來申報，如果他沒有辦法在期間內繳稅款的話，可以做延期或者分3年來分期繳納，至於要不要延長這個申報期限，我想會由我們的北區國稅局來做評估，看看提供一個適當的協助。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼時候可以評估出來？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分，北區國稅局…… |
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賴委員士葆：5月馬上要到了，5月1日開始要報稅了，剩沒有幾天，這麼大的事情，你們現在怎麼還在研議呢？ |
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莊部長翠雲：北區國稅局局長在這邊。 |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼還在研議？不能夠給答案啊！ |
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李局長怡慧：跟委員報告，因為目前我們統計我們花蓮地區綜所稅採用網路申報與稅額試算的其實已經高達9成9了，所以目前應該不至於會因為震災受到影響，但是如果有少數真的沒有辦法申報，我們目前會規劃派員跟村里長一起實際到…… |
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賴委員士葆：所以你的意思用白話文講就是如期申報不延長，就是這個意思。 |
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李局長怡慧：目前是在如期申報不延長的情況…… |
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賴委員士葆：如期申報不延長。 |
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李局長怡慧：對，我們會提供額外的輔導申報措施。 |
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賴委員士葆：這樣不是普通冷血喔！財政部，這是特殊情況，我以為答案最底線也來講一個特殊情況給予延長，結果特殊情況你去幫助人家，幫助什麼？他都居無定所了，那個地方可能網路也不通，他怎麼上網報呢？都沒有住所了，你叫他去申報這個東西，5月1日申報，你真是的。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員，我想這個申報期間我們會用各種方式…… |
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賴委員士葆：認真思考，對受災戶，把它延後啦！ |
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莊部長翠雲：當然您的這個建議，我們也會認真思考…… |
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賴委員士葆：對不對？哪裡這麼冷血的，怎麼會說這樣，一點彈性都沒有！ |
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我們來看，要報稅了，結果你們的新措施，宋署長一開始念茲在茲搞了好久，搞成了CFC，老百姓都不知道，你只有跟會計師說明而已，跟其他的企業說明，你新聞稿發一發，一般普通人也不知道CFC，老百姓也不知道。 |
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莊部長翠雲：有，我們一直在加強的宣導，而且在報稅期間…… |
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賴委員士葆：很少看到啊！ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們會有專人服務…… |
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賴委員士葆：我就都沒看到。 |
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莊部長翠雲：不清楚的話，我們都有專人特別服務…… |
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賴委員士葆：我打「CFC」，都沒有看到財政部，都是會計師的意見，都沒有財政部的newsletter，加強讓人家知道一下…… |
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莊部長翠雲：好，我們再加強。 |
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賴委員士葆：還有第二個，手機報稅現在是估算，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：目前有一個查調的估算。 |
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賴委員士葆：估算，不是試算吧！ |
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莊部長翠雲：也就是…… |
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賴委員士葆：它不是試算，請問估算與試算有什麼不一樣？ |
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莊部長翠雲：估算這個部分其實因為我們一直在…… |
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賴委員士葆：估算就是粗略的算一算，試算比較精準，是不是？ |
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莊部長翠雲：也把相關的所得，還有扣除額，都已經放進來…… |
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賴委員士葆：請問你們兩位長官，「估算」英文怎麼講？「試算」英文怎麼講？ |
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莊部長翠雲：跟委員報告，今年有一個估算，最主要是我們未來希望…… |
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賴委員士葆：如果我是你，我就回答，估算很簡單，估算就是rough，隨便算一算叫估算，對不對？試算比較精準，比較接近事實叫試算，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：其實試算一樣用公式算…… |
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賴委員士葆：比較精準啦！ |
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莊部長翠雲：也會把所有所得及扣除額都放進來…… |
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賴委員士葆：兩位長官，同樣，這個老百姓都不知道，你Google一下看看，看的人不多，你們發的新聞稿也不多，加強一下。 |
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莊部長翠雲：好，我們加強宣導來說明，謝謝委員，謝謝委員的建議。 |
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賴委員士葆：好。第二個，OpenAI有一個產品，大家都知道，ChatGPT4月在日本設了辦事處，臺灣有沒有要求OpenAI要做稅籍登記，有沒有？因為根據AIF科技基金會調查，臺灣半數以上的企業都用ChatGPT，半數以上，包括人民，ChatGPT用得這麼廣，有沒有做稅籍登記？有沒有？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這是不是由我們署長說明，好嗎？ |
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賴委員士葆：好，署長。 |
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宋署長秀玲：報告委員，目前我們講的ChatGPT有兩種賣的方式，一種是透過我們Google及Apple，就app store去賣，這種有報稅，因為是直接由Ggoogle及Apple去報稅，現在委員關切的是它自己賣的部分，目前我們臺北國稅局已經發函輔導它落地。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼時候可以確定？ |
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宋署長秀玲：我們再加強督促…… |
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賴委員士葆：一個月以內可以嗎？ |
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宋署長秀玲：加強督促臺北國稅局去辦理好不好？ |
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賴委員士葆：一個月以內可以嗎？ |
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宋署長秀玲：我們盡力啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：一個月，可以吧？ |
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宋署長秀玲：報告委員，因為它是跨境電商，有時候溝通、聯繫上並不是這麼方便，但我們一定盡最大的努力。 |
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賴委員士葆：要啦！你們FB已經課了。請問你，FB呢？上一次問你FB繳稅的問題，還沒給我答案。 |
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宋署長秀玲：他已經落地了…… |
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賴委員士葆：有繳稅？ |
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宋署長秀玲：而且他都繳稅。 |
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賴委員士葆：營業稅、營所稅都繳了？ |
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宋署長秀玲：都繳了，謝謝委員的關心。 |
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賴委員士葆：OpenAI用得非常普遍，要課稅，好不好？比照境外電商在國內提供服務或者銷售服務，要課稅喔！ |
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莊部長翠雲：好，謝謝委員的督促。 |
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賴委員士葆：今天發布內閣名單，賴清德賴總統說話很大聲，他說卓榮泰叫做AI行動內閣啊！簡稱AI內閣。你們財政部要不要跟上？下次可以AI查稅或是AI報稅，你們可以嗎？ |
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莊部長翠雲：AI這個部分，我們會再運用這個科技來努力…… |
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賴委員士葆：你們有嗎？從來沒有想過用AI查稅，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：有，我們有運用這個科技來做…… |
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賴委員士葆：有想過嗎？一直點頭，宋署長一直點頭，有嗎？ |
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莊部長翠雲：有啊，是的，會的。 |
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賴委員士葆：第三個題目是關於台灣金聯公司，台灣金聯董事長今天有沒有來？ |
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莊部長翠雲：台灣金聯今天沒有來。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，台灣金聯是你們成立的，幫公股銀行處理NPL，廣義來講接近AMC，其股東包含合庫銀行、第一銀行等11家，結果台灣金聯曾幾何時把自己轉型了，炒地、炒房就是台灣金聯做得很大、主要的業務啊！原來你給他的任務是AMC，是國家成立的，結果它變成下來炒房、炒地。比如說，臺中市政府的聯開宅，共14戶，每一戶2,700萬，100封以上的標單，他就高價搶標，非常惡劣的示範，台灣金聯怎麼下來去搶這種標？5月第二次標售12戶，它繼續炒房，它帶頭養地炒房，台灣金聯現在外面的形象非常不好，它是公家的，它的董事長叫施俊吉，當過金管會主委，你怎麼講？ |
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莊部長翠雲：跟委員報告，台灣金聯當時成立確實是為了要處理公股銀行的不良債權，其實它也有很多平價住宅的出售，上次高雄那個土地的部分，也已經詳細說明了…… |
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賴委員士葆：被人家罵翻天啊！ |
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莊部長翠雲：買了以後，它因為沒有辦法整合，所以才出售。至於臺中市聯開宅的部分，我們是不是再進一步的瞭解到底是什麼樣的情形。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼時候可以給我們報告？ |
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莊部長翠雲：最近，應該是兩個禮拜以內。 |
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賴委員士葆：兩個禮拜以內給我們報告，好不好？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們瞭解一下實際的情形，然後再給委員報告。 |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼台灣金聯設立的宗旨跟現在做的不一樣？差太多了，現在變成炒地、炒房。 |
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莊部長翠雲：它其實提供了很多平價住宅。 |
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賴委員士葆：你們兩位都請回。金管會今天來了證期局副局長，對不對？部長請回，署長請回。 |
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莊部長翠雲：是，謝謝委員。 |
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主席：請副局長。 |
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賴委員士葆：我只有一個小問題，台網紅誆稱巴菲特買回台積電股票，金管會說：最重關10年。結果呢？結果撤文道歉，我這覺得不夠啊！你們有沒有去查他有沒有違反證交法第一百五十五條市場炒作，有沒有？ |
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黃副局長厚銘：跟委員報告，這部分的話，證交所跟期交所兩個聯手已經正在查核當中，期交所那一天的資料已經分析出來，它會給證交所，證交所到時候會配合原來既定的行政程序…… |
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賴委員士葆：你會不會把他移送？ |
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黃副局長厚銘：這部分我們會有我們的程序。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼時候決定？ |
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黃副局長厚銘：我們會在最快的時間，證交所會配合期交所查核的資料，整個合併之後，綜合考量…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為很多網紅都發這樣的文章，我覺得這個你們要趕快去處理，才能夠遏止這樣的歪風，好不好？ |
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黃副局長厚銘：瞭解，謝謝委員。 |
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主席：資料後補，用書面補充。 |
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黃副局長厚銘：是。 |
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主席：好，謝謝。 |
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接著請郭國文郭召委質詢。 |
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委員會-11-1-20-7 |
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羅明才 |
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賴士葆 |
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林德福 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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王正旭 |
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黃捷 |
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吳宗憲 |
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郭國文 |
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賴惠員 |
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李彥秀 |
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王世堅 |
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顏寬恒 |
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李坤城 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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黃國昌 |
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洪孟楷 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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張雅琳 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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張智倫 |
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蔡易餘 |
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邱志偉 |
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1 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、審查「所得稅法」12案：(一)審查本院委員羅明才等23人擬具「所得稅法第十五條條文修正
草案」案、( 二) 審查本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員馬文君等 16 人、委員魯明哲等23
人、委員謝龍介等20人、委員賴士葆等17人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員林德福等21人、委員楊瓊
瓔等16人、委員賴士葆等28人、委員王正旭等17人分別擬具「所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案」
等11案；二、審查「加值型及非加值型營業稅法」 4案：(一)行政院函請審議「加值型及非加值
型營業稅法部分條文修正草案」案、(二)本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員黃捷等17人、委員吳宗憲等
18人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第八條條文修正草案」等3案（僅詢答） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請財政部的莊部長請莊部長委員好部長早安今天早上總統府那邊公布新內閣的名單還沒有看到財政部長 |
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因為來這邊所以我也不知道他們大概昨天從媒體上有看到你有沒有接到電話這個部分我想對我來說是把現在工作把它做好所以如果電話來你就一不容辭這個不做任何預設還沒有辦法回答這個問題沒辦法回答但是心裡會期待喔 |
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這個個人的去留並不重要,我把現在的工作做好。每天等電話喔?不會。沒有這樣子?沒有沒有。沒有所得稅嗎?電話還要把它放大氣一下,要不然聽不懂。好,我們來看喔。四零三的,零四零三啦,大地震。你們有提到,可以列舉扣除啦,在民領嘛齁。但是我查了一下, |
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從民國87年開始我們財產的損失因為地震啊是15萬元對吧15萬對15萬元是財產損失那個署長搖頭勒署長搖頭不是啊來來來講多少錢 |
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報告委員,我們對災害損失如果實際有受損是沒有限而限的。我知道啦,但是15萬以內輸審啦。對,他可以用重大災區他可以由里長。15萬以內輸審。15萬以上你就要去在此地查額幹什麼的啊。我講輸審啦。沒有限制,對啦。好,我有限制就問你了。我現在就問你一個問題了。 |
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現在至少到目前為止財政部有沒有接到指示要提0403的政災特別條例有沒有目前沒有沒有對 |
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如果有的話你們預估大概有多少錢?我想這個部分我們各個部會其實在這幾天一直都提出相關的一些措施那就盡快、盡速的去做目前來說透過有我們的公股、行庫還有金融事業的一些比較寬的一個舒適的處理那對於民眾 |
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副副副副副副副 |
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現在來講的話,這個我就不知道這個應該仗什麼算,那我就問你比較具體的,比較具體的。 |
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就是受災戶因為五月份的報稅是受災戶報稅時間可不可往後延這個部分我想讓我們目前來說第一個民眾可以在五月份裡面來申報如果他確實如果沒有辦法在期間內繳稅款的話可以做延期或者說分三年來繳納的一個分期那至於要不要延長這個申報期限我想這個部分 |
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會由我們的北區國稅局來做一個評估,看看提供一個適當的一個協助。什麼時候可以評估出來?這個部分那個北區國稅局...五月馬上要到了耶!五月要開始報稅,純薄居綱啊!你們現在這麼大的事情,怎麼還在研擬呢?北區國稅局局長在這邊。為什麼還在研擬? |
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不能夠給答案嗎? |
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盧起申報不延長。這是目前是在盧起申報不延長。盧起申報不延長。對,我們會提供額外的輔導申報的措施。那不是普通人寫喔,財政部喔。特殊情況,我以為答案最底線也來講一個說,特殊情況給你延長。 |
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阿結果特殊情況你去加幫助人家,幫助什麼阿?他巨頭無敵所,那個地方可能網路也不通,阿怎麼上網報呢?阿可能跑區公所,阿都除了都不除阿,你叫他去申報這個東西,我願意要申報,你不是? |
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委員我想這個申報的期間齁我們會用各種方式認真思考把它延後了再受栽培當然您的這個建議我們也會認真思考然後看看這把你這麼冷血的這個怎麼會說這一點彈性都沒有來我們來看齁你的要破碎的結果新的措施比如說我們那個宋署長啊一開始念之再之啊搞了好久搞成了CFC啊 |
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老百姓都不知道欸!你只要跟會計師說明而已啊!跟其他的企業說明啊!你為什麼新聞稿發一封一般普通人也不知道!CFC也不知道!老百姓也不知道!有,我們就一直在加強的宣導而且在報稅期間我們會有專人服務我把一下CFC的沒有看到財政部 |
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都是會計師的意見都沒有財政部的newsletter加強讓你就知道一下還有第二個第二個是是是手機報稅現在是估算對不對有一個查調的估算估算不是試算吧也就是說他不是試算喔估算跟試算什麼不一樣 |
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姑算這個部分其實因為我們一直在姑算就是粗略的算一算也打相關的所得還有扣除的都已經放進來請問你啊請問你啊你們兩位長官姑算英文怎麼講?私算英文怎麼講? |
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跟委員報告今年有一個估算最主要是我們未來希望所以稅額是如果我是你我是回答說估算就簡單估算就是要是一樣嘛隨便算你算就估算對不對試算不是精準這樣接近事實要試算對啦其實是對啦其實是算的是一樣用公司算比較精準啦然後也會把所得跟扣除的都放在裡面啦兩位長官同樣 |
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老百姓普羅都不知道。你Google一下,看看。看得人的不多,你們發的資訊稿也不多。加強一下。好,我們加強宣導來說明是,謝謝委員,謝謝委員的建議,謝謝。對,第二個,OpenAI啊,它有一個產品大家知道,ChatGPT啊,4月在日本社的辦事處。是。 |
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台灣有沒有要求要做稅級登記open AI有沒有因為根據AI Foundation科技就是AI科技基金會他調查台灣半數以上的企業都用chat GPT半數以上包括人民啊chat GPT用的這麼廣有沒有做稅級登記有沒有好這是是不是由我們署長講的 |
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包括國委員齁目前我們講的GPT它有兩種賣的方式一種是透過我們Google跟Apple就App Store去賣齁這一種它有報稅因為它是直接由Google跟Apple去報稅那現在委員關切的是說如果它自己賣的部分而且我們台北國稅局已經發函輔導它落極就是落地什麼時候可以確定 |
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呃……我們在加強……一個月以內可以嗎?一個月以內可以嗎?一個月!可以嗎?一個月!因為他是跨境電商,有時候溝通啊聯繫並不是這麼正方,但我們一定盡最大努力。 |
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這個要了,你們FB已經課了,不,請問一下,FB再次問你FB繳稅的問題還沒給我答案嗎?他已經落地了,而且他都繳稅了。營業稅、營所稅都繳了。都繳了,都繳了。謝謝委員的考慮。OpenAI用得非常普遍,要課稅。好不好,比照境外電商在國內 |
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提供服務或是銷售服務要課稅。那個今天發布內閣後賴清德跟我大聲的賴總統啊他說給卓榮泰就說AI行動內閣啊簡稱AI內閣啊你們蔡正波要不要跟得上。AI查稅。什麼你沒理我懂我。AI報稅我懂我。 |
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好,這個AI是個部分我們會再運用這個科技來努力有想過我一直點頭送書長一直點頭?有嗎?對啊,是的,會的好,我們看看第三個題目我跟你講台灣紀念公司你知道嗎?台灣紀念今天有沒有來?台灣紀念董事長?台灣紀念今天沒有來 |
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台灣金融是你們成立的嗎?幫公股銀行處理NPL也就是廣義來講接近AMC股東、合股銀行、第一銀行等等等有十一家結果台灣金融曾幾何時把自己轉型了 |
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草地草房就是台灣今年做的很大主要的業務啊他原來你給他的任務是AMC是國家成立的他現在變成下來草房草地比如說台中市政府的年開債14戶每一戶2700萬100封以上的標書他就高價搶標 |
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非常惡劣的示範台灣今年咧他怎麼下來去搶這樣的標五月第二次標售12戶他繼續炒房他帶頭養地炒房台灣今年現在已經被外面他的形象非常不好 |
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他是公家的,他的董事叫施俊齊,當過經國會主委跟委員報告,台灣今年他當時成立確實為了要處理公股銀行的不良債權那其實這個部分他是有很多平價住宅的出售那上次的高雄那個土地的部分也已經詳細說明 |
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主席再給我一小小的,我就,好,你們兩個都請回。金管會今天哪一個副局長的人?政經局。那個部長請回,部長請回。謝謝委員。我覺得有一個小問題喔。台廣紅啊,狂稱巴菲特買回台積電股票。金管會說最重關10年,結果呢?結果側文呢? |
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道歉!我都覺得這不夠啊!你們有沒有去查他沒有違反政交法155條市場炒作有沒有?你會不會把他移送? |
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這部分我們會有我們的程序什麼時候決定這個我們會在最快的時間那政交所會配合這整個齊交所查的資料他整個合併之後綜合考量這個一看這個是一個很因為很多網紅都發這樣的一個文章我覺得這個你們要趕快去處理是的才能夠遏止這樣的外風了了解了解謝謝謝謝委員資料後補喔是順便的補充好謝謝 |
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接著請郭國文、郭昭瑋質詢 |